Can anyone out there see if they get the same behavior as me?
I'm in a band 12 area, with a 4 bar LTE signal.
Wifi calling is enabled but CELLULAR PREFERRED, I'm connected to the T-Mobile ASUS router on Verizon FiOS (2.4, 5ghz, doesn't matter).
Long press 1 to get into your voicemail. What you expect to hear:
"You have no new messages in your mailbox..." is chopped off and what I hear is:
"mailbox..."
If I turn off wifi, the issue goes away. If I turn off wifi calling, the issue goes away. If I change the wifi calling setting so that it uses wifi preferred or always (so the call is an actual wifi call), the issue goes away. If I force the phone to use HSPA, the issue goes away.
So even though the call isn't a wifi call, something about wifi calling and wifi, even though the call goes through VoLTE, is causing the start of a call be be chopped off.
At this point I have disabled wifi calling on my phone.
amarryat said:
Can anyone out there see if they get the same behavior as me?
I'm in a band 12 area, with a 4 bar LTE signal.
Wifi calling is enabled but CELLULAR PREFERRED, I'm connected to the T-Mobile ASUS router on Verizon FiOS (2.4, 5ghz, doesn't matter).
Long press 1 to get into your voicemail. What you expect to hear:
"You have no new messages in your mailbox..." is chopped off and what I hear is:
"mailbox..."
If I turn off wifi, the issue goes away. If I turn off wifi calling, the issue goes away. If I change the wifi calling setting so that it uses wifi preferred or always (so the call is an actual wifi call), the issue goes away. If I force the phone to use HSPA, the issue goes away.
So even though the call isn't a wifi call, something about wifi calling and wifi, even though the call goes through VoLTE, is causing the start of a call be be chopped off.
At this point I have disabled wifi calling on my phone.
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I have the same set up, I'll turn off WiFi and report back, as I've noticed the same issues...
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Seems better... I'll keep it like this and see...
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My theory on what's happening here is this:
While you're telling the system too use VoLTE and setting cellular preferred, it's starting the call on Wi-Fi calling and handing off to VoLTE.
The reasoning it's simple...when on Wi-Fi, cellular data is deactivated. VoLTE depends on cellular data. When you start a call, it establishes it via Wi-Fi calling, and establishes the cellular data connection. Once that connection it's up, handover occurs, but this causes a few seconds of Audio loss because it has to set that back up.
You can see the delay yourself by turning off Wi-Fi, then turn off mobile data. Turn mobile data back on and you'll see the delay between enabling and being reconnected too the LTE network.
Hope this helps explain the issue. It's a handoff delay caused by having to reconnect mobile data and LTE, and you likely wouldn't notice for normal calls, but VM answers immediately.
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toastido said:
My theory on what's happening here is this:
While you're telling the system too use VoLTE and setting cellular preferred, it's starting the call on Wi-Fi calling and handing off to VoLTE.
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I understand what you're saying and thanks for the explanation. And I realize that when wifi is on, data is going through wifi and would have to switch to LTE for a call. So this does make sense to some extent. But.... if wifi is on but wifi calling is not, the calls happen quickly and are not chopped off. But the same holds true - the data is going through wifi and would have to switch to LTE. Your reasoning explains it for wifi calls always and wifi calls never.
amarryat said:
I understand what you're saying and thanks for the explanation. And I realize that when wifi is on, data is going through wifi and would have to switch to LTE for a call. So this does make sense to some extent. But.... if wifi is on but wifi calling is not, the calls happen quickly and are not chopped off. But the same holds true - the data is going through wifi and would have to switch to LTE. Your reasoning explains it for wifi calls always and wifi calls never.
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That's because with wifi calling ON, the call is initially set up through wifi calling, and has to hand over once the mobile data connection is up, LTE is negotiated, and VoLTE is negotiated. If wifi calling is OFF, the call is established via GSM, then (optionally, but not usually) handed over to VoLTE once LTE is up and VoLTE is negotiated.
I've done work in the industry with VoLTE, and my day job involves VoIP, so it's not as simple as one might think. Believe it or not, GSM to VoLTE handoff is much easier than WiFI calling to VoLTE. It still explains it, believe it or not, it's just a matter of which path. It's also harder to hand off from VoLTE to GSM when you roam out of a VoLTE area... which is the primary cause for VoLTE call drops.
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Believe it or not, GSM to VoLTE handoff is much easier than WiFI calling to VoLTE.
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Why haven't they implemented that then? That hurts them in the rootmetrics etc. scores where they'd test phone calls.
For example, band 12. You make a VoLTE call, drive to out of range of LTE and the call drops to HSPA or Edge. It nevers goes back to LTE. So when they're doing their tests, if the call switches away from LTE, then they drive to an area that is band 12, when the HSPA signal gets weak, the call gets dropped even though there's a great band 12 signal.
amarryat said:
Why haven't they implemented that then? That hurts them in the rootmetrics etc. scores where they'd test phone calls.
For example, band 12. You make a VoLTE call, drive to out of range of LTE and the call drops to HSPA or Edge. It nevers goes back to LTE. So when they're doing their tests, if the call switches away from LTE, then they drive to an area that is band 12, when the HSPA signal gets weak, the call gets dropped even though there's a great band 12 signal.
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That's actually a great question...and unfortunately one I can't answer or even begin to speculate on...
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toastido said:
That's actually a great question...and unfortunately one I can't answer or even begin to speculate on...
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Back to my original point though - what I'm hearing is that this isn't unique to the V10. I'm wondering why this isn't all over the internet where people are noticing that the start of their phone call is missing when wifi calling is enabled but they've set it to cellular preferred (which is NOT the default BTW).
Does anyone have the same issue where your carrier has LTE but doesn't support VoLTE for E2303,2353,2306 etc variants and ur phone shows 'Mobile Network Unavailable' when u are on LTE and trying to call someone else?
No, drop from LTE to 2G/3G works fine here when I try to call someone.
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I'm having this issue, I cannot enable volte. Vowifi is enabled and working fine. I have tried pretty much everything, the dial numbers etc.
I'm running stock miui global 12.2.7.
I'm posting a couple of screenshots, one is from the dial *#*#4636#*#* phone information and the other from network settings where volte toggle is nowhere to be found.
If you get 4G you have VOLTE. If you get 4G+ you have VOLTE-E. If your connection drops back to 3G in calls its because of either calling another network or the other phone is in a 3G area.
shivadow said:
If you get 4G you have VOLTE. If you get 4G+ you have VOLTE-E. If your connection drops back to 3G in calls its because of either calling another network or the other phone is in a 3G area.
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Hello and thanks for the reply.
The area I live in has mostly 5G coverage and when not available, 4G+ and 4G.
All I'm saying is I can't enable it as you can see in the screenshots. There's no option in the settings, and the option is unclickable in *#*#4636#*#* menu.
The Volte sign never shows in the status bar, and in the call history, I don't get the HD sign next to the names, only the WiFi - when the call is on VoWiFi. - which is logic, sign I can't get to turn it on.
Thanks in advance.
I have Oneplus 7t pro and because I have poor carrier signal in my home I have enabled wifi calling, vowifi, volte.
I see the VOWIFI icon in my oneplus but when I receive or make a call, in most cases the phone doesnt use it.
The icon is lost and the call quality is bad.
Is there a way to Force the phone to always prefer vowifi?
Hello all!
I have a Samsung A01 (SM-a015AZ) unlocked from Cricket, being used in Pakistan. Internet over LTE works perfectly, however the phone does not support VolTE and so it is only possible to send sms or call over 2g/3g. There's no problem when making a call as the phone automatically drops from LTE to 3g, however that does not happen when someone else tries to call me. The phone does not drop from LTE, nor do I even get any missed calls/sms notifications, but to the person calling me it seems like my phone is unreachable.
There are 3 options present in the preferred network mode (LTE, 3g, 2g) If I set it to 3g, all calls work fine, but with really really bad internet (EDGE). I have even tried to see if any settings in the advanced network configuration menu (By dialing *#*#4636#*#*) would make a difference, however I've had no luck so far. I would really appreciate it if someone can help me with this.
tl;dr Samsung A01 drops from LTE to 3g to make calls, however does not drop when someone else is calling and so does not receive any calls.