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Hi all!
I live in Germany and would like to buy a RN3 pro from Aliexpress. I don't want to stick around with MIUI but would like to try out different CM-based ROMs. The community here seems very alive, but I am confused by certain things. So I hope you can help me :highfive:
1) Some months ago, I followed the news about the Mi4c. People were complaining that Xiaomi won't let them unlock their phones. Are there no such problems with the RN3 pro?
2) Concerning the official firmware: I read that the phones come either with a Chinese or international firmware (or sometimes even bloated by retailers), and each has a hundred of version numbers. Are all versions possible to unlock? Or do I need a particular version to be able to root/unlock bootloader/flash a custom ROM?
3) Are there any differences between the 2/16 gig and the 3/32 gig version of the RN3pro apart from RAM/storage?
4) Is Xposed working fine on CM-based ROMs?
Best regards
1. I spent around a month to get it officially unlocked, till then I unlocked unofficially in few mins. But if you unofficially unlock whenever you flash a rom you must be more conscious and read every step that's given by Developer or else you will end up bricking your device(don't worry there are solutions for very bricking scenario) . So if this is not a concern you can buy
2. Whatever the firmware phone may come with you can flash MIUI global firmware and unlock it from there.
3. Nope not that I know of.
4. Yes it's working.
Welcome to the community.
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AntaresFP said:
Hi all!
I live in Germany and would like to buy a RN3 pro from Aliexpress. I don't want to stick around with MIUI but would like to try out different CM-based ROMs. The community here seems very alive, but I am confused by certain things. So I hope you can help me :highfive:
1) Some months ago, I followed the news about the Mi4c. People were complaining that Xiaomi won't let them unlock their phones. Are there no such problems with the RN3 pro?
2) Concerning the official firmware: I read that the phones come either with a Chinese or international firmware (or sometimes even bloated by retailers), and each has a hundred of version numbers. Are all versions possible to unlock? Or do I need a particular version to be able to root/unlock bootloader/flash a custom ROM?
3) Are there any differences between the 2/16 gig and the 3/32 gig version of the RN3pro apart from RAM/storage?
4) Is Xposed working fine on CM-based ROMs?
Best regards
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1)as an unlock reason I pasted some chineese text found in the Internet and after 1 week I got my unlock code. So no problem there
2)Developer rom is recommended for that, but I think that the never versions of stable build also support unlocking. Anyway, it's easy to install developer rom with locked bootloader
3)nope
4)yep
Sent from Note 3, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3.
Give yu yunicorn a try
AntaresFP said:
Hi all!
I live in Germany and would like to buy a RN3 pro from Aliexpress. I don't want to stick around with MIUI but would like to try out different CM-based ROMs. The community here seems very alive, but I am confused by certain things. So I hope you can help me :highfive:
1) Some months ago, I followed the news about the Mi4c. People were complaining that Xiaomi won't let them unlock their phones. Are there no such problems with the RN3 pro?
2) Concerning the official firmware: I read that the phones come either with a Chinese or international firmware (or sometimes even bloated by retailers), and each has a hundred of version numbers. Are all versions possible to unlock? Or do I need a particular version to be able to root/unlock bootloader/flash a custom ROM?
3) Are there any differences between the 2/16 gig and the 3/32 gig version of the RN3pro apart from RAM/storage?
4) Is Xposed working fine on CM-based ROMs?
Best regards
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1) If the phone is updated to the latest firmware (7.3.2 at the time of writting) then the bootloader unlocking process time will depend on how long it takes them to approve the permission for you (got my phone on Tuesday and unlocked it today).
2)Yes all are eligible, but you have to be on the latest one. Likely you will get with an outdated Chinese rom and will have to update via MIUI updater (or similar name of the official software). I also suggest looking for the phone from else where, like here in the EU (think ebay.ie had some cheap ones), since i had to pay an extra 50eur for taxes and expenses (am from Lithuania).
3) No idea, likely none. I got the 3gb version because it's more future proof and can upload 2 videos at the same time vie desktop version of facebook. Also the software itself uses about a gig of ram. Plus it's doesn't cost that much more and a gig of ram makes a difference.
4) No idea, wasn't a fan of xpossed before and am not planing to become one.
xposed works on miui? just curious
reggiexp said:
xposed works on miui? just curious
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Yes it works. Make sure to use MIUI Xposed version. Google it.
So, I got a new Redmi Note 3 Pro, SE aka Kate, because the lte band 20 band really is a must since I live in a rural area where the bands on the normal version of the phone don't work. I got several questions, it seems so easy to everybody but I guess I'm a newb (although I've worked my way flashing a couple of phones before) I can't really find these answers anywhere else, so I'm trying to find if some of you experts can help Here we go:
1- Where can I find the oficial Global Roms for the RN3P SE?
2- The method to unlock bootloader is the same as RN3P? And how can I install TWRP?
3- Is MIUI 8 available for this phone? And is this ROM bad, as in change it asap? Cause I've seen people complaining, others that love it, and I don't really know. What would you consider is the best ROM for Kate atm?
4- Can I install Kenzo roms on this phone, with or without risk (other than the normal) involved? If so, is there any (noob) tutorial on how to do it?
5- Can I update it OTA?
6- Is there any official Kate thread on XDA?
For now, these are the ones that come to mind. Thank you in advance for your responses.
obbama said:
1- Where can I find the oficial Global Roms for the RN3P SE?
2- The method to unlock bootloader is the same as RN3P? And how can I install TWRP?
3- Is MIUI 8 available for this phone? And is this ROM bad, as in change it asap? Cause I've seen people complaining, others that love it, and I don't really know. What would you consider is the best ROM for Kate atm?
4- Can I install Kenzo roms on this phone, with or without risk (other than the normal) involved? If so, is there any (noob) tutorial on how to do it?
5- Can I update it OTA?
6- Is there any official Kate thread on XDA?
For now, these are the ones that come to mind. Thank you in advance for your responses.
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1. Official MIUI site: http://en.miui.com/extra.php?mod=rom/download&r=301&mobile=no#449
2. Method is the same, request for it, unlock BL via official unlocking soft, than flash twrp with fastboot
3. MIUI 8 is available, it is Stable (not dev). Best rom? Depends on what you need. MIUI is pretty different from stock Android. Status bar and notifications are custom and sometimes don't work as expected (white navbar icons over white background, for example). But â?? battery is great, fingerprint is fast, camera is great. And last two are not in CyanogenMod Roms because of closed sources of MIUI. But CM is CM â?? customizable, nearly stock, etc. Choice is up to you. I was coming from Nexus, flashed CM right from the start â?? but now I'm considering going back to MIUI.
4. Kenzo and Kate are completely the same except for modem software. You can always flash something for Kenzo and flash modem firmware on top. Instructions in "Index" theme in Kenzo forum
5. If you are on official MIUI â?? of course.
6. Kenzo = Kate, so Kenzo forum is your place
(I am a Kate owner, btw)
mukintaras said:
1. Official MIUI site: http://en.miui.com/extra.php?mod=rom/download&r=301&mobile=no#449
2. Method is the same, request for it, unlock BL via official unlocking soft, than flash twrp with fastboot
3. MIUI 8 is available, it is Stable (not dev). Best rom? Depends on what you need. MIUI is pretty different from stock Android. Status bar and notifications are custom and sometimes don't work as expected (white navbar icons over white background, for example). But â?? battery is great, fingerprint is fast, camera is great. And last two are not in CyanogenMod Roms because of closed sources of MIUI. But CM is CM â?? customizable, nearly stock, etc. Choice is up to you. I was coming from Nexus, flashed CM right from the start â?? but now I'm considering going back to MIUI.
4. Kenzo and Kate are completely the same except for modem software. You can always flash something for Kenzo and flash modem firmware on top. Instructions in "Index" theme in Kenzo forum
5. If you are on official MIUI â?? of course.
6. Kenzo = Kate, so Kenzo forum is your place
(I am a Kate owner, btw)
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This just helped me so much. Thank you! And also, thank you for your views on the ROMs. Going to stick with MIUI for a while, I like it.
Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and you have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using MiFlash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects MIUI.
What this means: You cannot rollback to an older Miui version (Below Android 8.0) if you already you are currently on Andorid Oreo (i.e Miui 10) and up.
Common mistake(s):
1. Do not restore an old backup with Miui that has any Android version less than 8.0 from Miui 10 ( Android 8.0)
2. Do not install Miui 9 (Below Android 8.0) after installing Miui 10 (Android 8.0 Above)
*As of now: Developer version with ARB=1 has no ARB activated and it is safe to downgrade.*
*Tip: Ask yourself if the Android version you are about to install is lower than the Android version currently installed, if it is, DO NOT flash it. (Applicable if you are currently on Android 8.0 and up)
3. Downgrading/Upgrading Miui Roms with Locked Bootloader.
Same rules applies: Global Variant use Global Miui Rom, China Variant use China Miui Rom
* Switching between Stable and Developer on locked bootloader possible: Use Miflash or Xiaomi Tool. (Upgrading use updater app "select package"option)
4. Safetynet/ Playstore Certification with unlock bootloader.
You can pass Safetynet with Magisk 17.1 onwards for use with Banking/Payment apps
More info:
* Flash Magisk upon clean wipe and after flashing your Rom.
* Dm-verity & Force encryption disabler is required.Download and flash before first boot from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/universal-dm-verity-forceencrypt-t3817389
* Encryption must be diabled for Magisk to work. Therefore encryption is not possible if you wish to pass Safetynet.
Please keep all of this in mind before you start tweaking your phone as you will run the risk of bricking your Mi 8/SE. After which, your Mi 8 becomes a very expensive paperweight. I hope this helps to clear things up for many people! Do know that while I disagree with Xiaomi's new anti-consumer policy, i also feel that it is YOUR responsiblility in your own actions, especially when you decide to modify your device and when you do modify anything (not just phones), there are always risks involved. When in doubt, it does no harm to Google it or just ask around in the forums. Moral of the story: Proceed with caution!
For those already bricked:
1. Contact Xiaomi Customer Service and try obtain EDL permission to peform Testpoint fix.
2. Bring your phone to a Mi Store and hope that they can help you with it.
*In the case where my information is wrong, please correct me so that I can update accordingly for the benefit of everyone!
Have a nice day ahead and all the best in your phone tweaking adventures! Hopefully I helped you in clearing things up :good:
Last update: 12/11/2018
Thanks!
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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Same with mw, went back from 8.8.7 to 9.5.13.0 via fastboot --> no problems
felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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Same thing to me. I was not happy with the buggy MIUI10 CHina Dev Version and flashed via Fastboot 9.5.13 global stable.
Everything works fine.
I think this new policy of Xiaomi sow, but if they want so. That they release at least the EDL Module for users that present the invoice of the device, showing that they have bought and are in trouble. The international market is very large, and those who live in other regions end up with hands tied and with a paper weight in hand. Since there are no Authorized in each country.
Thanks for your great and Important notifications.
1- Totally agree for note # 1 ( 1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone ).
2- For note #2 (2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects Miui), i think as long as you are not downgrading to lower android version its fine regardless MIUI version.
felixrao said:
I installed MIUI 10 and use fastboot mode to roll back to MIUI 9. Nothing happens and everything goes very well
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JoB46 said:
Same with mw, went back from 8.8.7 to 9.5.13.0 via fastboot --> no problems
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magnum2323 said:
Same thing to me. I was not happy with the buggy MIUI10 CHina Dev Version and flashed via Fastboot 9.5.13 global stable.
Everything works fine.
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anasmhds said:
Thanks for your great and Important notifications.
1- Totally agree for note # 1 ( 1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone ).
2- For note #2 (2. Google implemented a policy that prevents rollback to older Android versions for Android Oreo and above Roms. This is for 'Security' reasons and affects Miui), i think as long as you are not downgrading to lower android version its fine regardless MIUI version.
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Thanks for all your info, i have updated the OP for greater clarity!
The Mi 8 doesn't have anti rollback at the moment.
I never seen such many post about bricked phones ever in my entire life, the only thing i've read about this phone and the note 5 is post about bricked phone.
It is a crazy amount of ppl that have already bricked their phones.
Truly amazing, never seen this before.
NO ARB system on Mi 8 yet. The current situation is the china variant flashes Global Rom forgot to uncheck the lock bootloader on Miflash tool and ended up bricking.
It is important to add information about Xiaomi Deep Flash Cable which can help flash already bricked devices migrated from Chinese to Global and accidently locked bootloader. No EDL authorization needed as far as I read.
masterakalin said:
It is important to add information about Xiaomi Deep Flash Cable which can help flash already bricked devices migrated from Chinese to Global and accidently locked bootloader. No EDL authorization needed as far as I read.
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Really? I've seen a few threads some time ago saying that deep flash cable would not work
Kernel code is released apparently ! https://www.xda-developers.com/xiao...xplorer-edition-kernel-source-code-available/
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Context:
Over the few months i have seen many Mi 8 owners who tweak their phone end up with a bricked device, of all the cases, a huge majority of them is due to the lack of research and jumping into modifying their phones before fully uinderstanding the situation (I almost made the mistake too, taking for granted that all android phones have minimal restrictions)
There are two things to take note of (especially if you decide to tweak your Mi 8/SE):
1. Xiaomi implemented a policy that prevents relocking of bootloader if you install a Global Rom on a China Variant Mi Phone
What this means: You cannot relock bootloader if your Mi8/SE is a China variant and ou have Global Miui version installed (Developer/Stable)
Common mistake(s):
1. Avoid 'Clean and lock' option when using Mi Flash. Only use 'Clean all' or 'Save user data' option
2. Do not relock your Mi8/SE if you are on Global Beta or Developer or Any MIUI rom that is Global
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I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
PedroCaseiro said:
I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
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Global variant must have global ROM, China variant must have China ROM. Relocking is possible if u follow the rule above. Global phone with China ROM, relocking will brick, vice versa. Be careful! :good:
PedroCaseiro said:
I bought the global version and the phone has Global MIUI 10 Stable. Will it brick if I relock after installing Magisk or the brick only happens on Chinese phones with global ROMs?
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One more thing, don't relock after installing magisk, it either wouldn't relock as boot.img is modified or u will probably soft brick. U cant modify boot if u want to relock, correct me if I'm wrong
But relock the bootloader when I´m on Global Rom will work when I use a Global device?
achickennugget said:
One more thing, don't relocking after installing magisk, it either wouldn't relocking as boot.img is modified or u will probably soft rock. U cant modify boot if I want to relocking, correct me if I'm wrong
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Ahhh yes, because Magisk modifies boot.img
You're probably right
Thanks
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But relock the bootloader when I´m on Global Rom will work when I use a Global device?
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Yes
I bought my Mi8 and it had a fake Global ROM, it was a modified Chinese MIUI that looked like global with unlocked bootloader via the unofficial way .
So I locked the bootloader and installed MIUI 10 Beta China Developer and I am waiting 30 days for the official unlock . When the time comes how can I install Global stable MIUI 10 or at least the latest Global stable ?
According to Xiaomi India, MIUI 11 "might" get out of beta on 16.10.2019.
On a personnal note, I don't believe the Mi 9 will receive the update first since there are now several models already on MIUI 11.
Aside from the A series without MIUI (Android One), I won't ever touch a Mi phone in the near future.
The ROM building is a disaster, the Mi 9 is en route to being updated last, EEA ROM still having notifications problems...
Bleh.
Source :
https://twitter.com/MIUI_India/status/1182182025698013184
Not ever again for me.
That's the same date what xiaomi is advertising since 2 days so it should be possible. And if you dont like the Stock Rom, switch to xiaomi.eu. All Bugs from Stock are not present there and if you dont follow the Installation Tips from most users you will never have any problems. Btw. Use lrteam twrp and not maronofrio. Even if its included in the xiaomi.eu Rom just Flash lrteam twrp after flashing the Rom and everything else you need. Its allways based on latest China beta (without bloadware and ads) All features are opend to every body even without a xiaomi Account. You allways get the latest Android Version, security Patch and miui Version that are existing. Sometimes you have to wait a week for a security Patch but thats nearly Pixel Niveau. For example Android 10 was there a few months ago (without Bugs) miui 11 is there for two weeks now (without Bugs) you get weekly Updates. And with magisk and/or xposed you can change the whole System as you want it even like Stock Android (except for the settings App). Xiaomi.eu is the allround Rom for everybody who likes to mod his System as Hard as you can(just if you want tofor sure) and stay up to Date with a Rock stable System. Just dont Listen to the dozend users Posting their bugs/problems on xiaomi.eu forum or here on xda, 99% of These problems are in Front of the Display and not behind it. If you need some instructions, Flash latest lrteam twrp (1001) Flash latest xiaomi.eu Rom (10.10.) Flash magisk (if you want to) and if you want allways working Backups (even over different Android Versions and different twrps) remove encryption (included in twrp "advanced" (rm force encrypt) ). After that just Flash lrteam twrp img again (just from within twrp) because xiaomi.eu Rom Installation will over write it. For updating the weekly you just habe to wipe "System (yes even if devs say you dont need to) dalvik and Cache" Flash Update, Flash magisk, rm force encrypt, Flash lrteam twrp img, reboot and you are happy forever. I am dirty flashing Updates for over 4 months now every week and never had a single Bug with this method. I know this Was maybe a little bit ot sorry for that.
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That's the same date what xiaomi is advertising since 2 days so it should be possible. And if you dont like the Stock Rom, switch to xiaomi.eu. All Bugs from Stock are not present there and if you dont follow the Installation Tips from most users you will never have any problems. Btw. Use lrteam twrp and not maronofrio. Even if its included in the xiaomi.eu Rom just Flash lrteam twrp after flashing the Rom and everything else you need. Its allways based on latest China beta (without bloadware and ads) All features are opend to every body even without a xiaomi Account. You allways get the latest Android Version, security Patch and miui Version that are existing. Sometimes you have to wait a week for a security Patch but thats nearly Pixel Niveau. For example Android 10 was there a few months ago (without Bugs) miui 11 is there for two weeks now (without Bugs) you get weekly Updates. And with magisk and/or xposed you can change the whole System as you want it even like Stock Android (except for the settings App). Xiaomi.eu is the allround Rom for everybody who likes to mod his System as Hard as you can(just if you want tofor sure) and stay up to Date with a Rock stable System. Just dont Listen to the dozend users Posting their bugs/problems on xiaomi.eu forum or here on xda, 99% of These problems are in Front of the Display and not behind it. If you need some instructions, Flash latest lrteam twrp (1001) Flash latest xiaomi.eu Rom (10.10.) Flash magisk (if you want to) and if you want allways working Backups (even over different Android Versions and different twrps) remove encryption (included in twrp "advanced" (rm force encrypt) ). After that just Flash lrteam twrp img again (just from within twrp) because xiaomi.eu Rom Installation will over write it. For updating the weekly you just habe to wipe "System (yes even if devs say you dont need to) dalvik and Cache" Flash Update, Flash magisk, rm force encrypt, Flash lrteam twrp img, reboot and you are happy forever. I am dirty flashing Updates for over 4 months now every week and never had a single Bug with this method. I know this Was maybe a little bit ot sorry for that.
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A very clear write-up. I appreciate your time and efforts. I am using MIUI 11 (lastest version released last friday) and it is working very fuild smooth and also no bloatwares. I have customised to my taste and works better. I like xiaomi mi 9 for the simplicity in modding ourselves.
Are they releasing Global and EEA ROM in the same time or EEA ROM will came a little bit later after Global ROM?
Is anybody know this?!
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That's the same date what xiaomi is advertising since 2 days so it should be possible. And if you dont like the Stock Rom, switch to xiaomi.eu. All Bugs from Stock are not present there and if you dont follow the Installation Tips from most users you will never have any problems. Btw. Use lrteam twrp and not maronofrio. Even if its included in the xiaomi.eu Rom just Flash lrteam twrp after flashing the Rom and everything else you need. Its allways based on latest China beta (without bloadware and ads) All features are opend to every body even without a xiaomi Account. You allways get the latest Android Version, security Patch and miui Version that are existing. Sometimes you have to wait a week for a security Patch but thats nearly Pixel Niveau. For example Android 10 was there a few months ago (without Bugs) miui 11 is there for two weeks now (without Bugs) you get weekly Updates. And with magisk and/or xposed you can change the whole System as you want it even like Stock Android (except for the settings App). Xiaomi.eu is the allround Rom for everybody who likes to mod his System as Hard as you can(just if you want tofor sure) and stay up to Date with a Rock stable System. Just dont Listen to the dozend users Posting their bugs/problems on xiaomi.eu forum or here on xda, 99% of These problems are in Front of the Display and not behind it. If you need some instructions, Flash latest lrteam twrp (1001) Flash latest xiaomi.eu Rom (10.10.) Flash magisk (if you want to) and if you want allways working Backups (even over different Android Versions and different twrps) remove encryption (included in twrp "advanced" (rm force encrypt) ). After that just Flash lrteam twrp img again (just from within twrp) because xiaomi.eu Rom Installation will over write it. For updating the weekly you just habe to wipe "System (yes even if devs say you dont need to) dalvik and Cache" Flash Update, Flash magisk, rm force encrypt, Flash lrteam twrp img, reboot and you are happy forever. I am dirty flashing Updates for over 4 months now every week and never had a single Bug with this method. I know this Was maybe a little bit ot sorry for that.
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Sorry, but that's just not correct.
You are right in the fact that some, or most, of the bugs in the stock ROM are not on Xiaomi.eu ROM, but it's a trade-off, you trade some bugs for other bugs and for some other stupid ideas from the developers.
Xiaomi.eu developers hard mod the ROM themselves, a lot of stupid choices going on there. For instance, the developers thought it is a good idea to remove the Message notification option from the settings, because they think SMS messages are just like any other notification, and their advice, if you want to have a different sound for SMS notification, is to go to App Info and modify from there. Of course, that DOES NOT WORK, the sound gets reset to default notification sound every single time, but they don't fix that or restore the freaking option in settings. And the list can go on and on.
Also, the stock apps are a mess, because they are not really the Global ones, but not Chinese versions either, they are also modded by the developers of Xiaomi.eu, so they work like crap or not at all in some cases. Forget about updating them, there is no way to do that unless you install the APK directly and then, in most cases, they works even worse.
Basically, xiaomi.eu is a pain to live with, it might be nice for those who just use the phone to look fancy and to take a few pictures, but if you actually USE the phone, it's crap.
That being said, the Stock ROM is no joy either, it gets updated once every 3-6 months and basically, like 10% of the features and fixes from the defunct Global Beta make it to the Global Stable. So yeah...for short, Xiaomi can make great phones, but they make crap ROM and there are no decent options of a good ROM, in my opinion.
Oct 22-31 Phase 1 - Nov 04-12 Phase 2(?) - Nov 13-29 Phase 3(?) - Dec 18-26 Phase 4(?)
g_seva said:
Oct 22-31 Phase 1 - Nov 04-12 Phase 2(?) - Nov 13-29 Phase 3(?) - Dec 18-26 Phase 4(?)
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this make no fkng sense, why Mi8 will receive the update first than Mi9?
Thats a big deal, since Mi9 is newer than Mi8, but since...i dont know what is in Xiaomi mind at this moment, make no fkng sense at all!!!!
sun_is_shinning said:
this make no fkng sense, why Mi8 will receive the update first than Mi9?
Thats a big deal, since Mi9 is newer than Mi8, but since...i dont know what is in Xiaomi mind at this moment, make no fkng sense at all!!!!
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calm down.... Mi9 will get miui11 with android10, mi8 miui11 with android9.....
sun_is_shinning said:
this make no fkng sense, why Mi8 will receive the update first than Mi9?
Thats a big deal, since Mi9 is newer than Mi8, but since...i dont know what is in Xiaomi mind at this moment, make no fkng sense at all!!!!
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First it's not final, second what the problem to wait 2 or 3 weeks and get less bugs?
So much for buying one of the current flagship devices,Mi9 SE gets updates faster...
crs951 said:
So much for buying one of the current flagship devices,Mi9 SE gets updates faster...
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Again, mi9se get's miui11 with android9 - mi9 get's miui11 with android10...... so i think it's acceptable to wait a little bit longer
crs951 said:
So much for buying one of the current flagship devices,Mi9 SE gets updates faster...
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Let's all buy a less powerful phone to get updates quicker.
No sense, I'm on Xiaomi.eu ROM, and guess what, choose miui 10 with Android 9.
Less bugs, way more stable.
Don't rush things, Xiaomi usually does crap when speeds thing up...
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calm down.... Mi9 will get miui11 with android10, mi8 miui11 with android9.....
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What are you talking about? Mi8 alredy has android 9. So both Mi 8 and Mi 9 will get android 10.
Don't spread and hoax!!
I guess the wait for Mi9 is the android 10 update...
But i thought Mi9 SE is getting also getting android 10. Maybe it will get android 10 later?
edit: Didn't see page #2, allready answered...
Does miui 11 update that's rolling out in China right now include android 10?
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Chad_Petree said:
Does miui 11 update that's rolling out in China right now include android 10?
Gesendet von meinem MI 9 mit Tapatalk
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Yes:good:
korel said:
What are you talking about? Mi8 alredy has android 9. So both Mi 8 and Mi 9 will get android 10.
Don't spread and hoax!!
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https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/dipper/
and now? :silly:
wakko42 said:
https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/dipper/
and now? :silly:
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What now? Latest China beta for mi 8 is on android 10
All these devices: Mi8, Mi8 SE, Mi8 Pro, Mi9 SE, Mi MIX 3, Mi MIX 2S is
And who has been crying about late mi 9 update, MIUI 11 global for Mi 9 is out. As i understand it's one of the first.
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What now? Latest China beta for mi 8 is on android 10
All these devices: Mi8, Mi8 SE, Mi8 Pro, Mi9 SE, Mi MIX 3, Mi MIX 2S is
And who has been crying about late mi 9 update, MIUI 11 global for Mi 9 is out. As i understand it's one of the first.
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No. Thats a beta update. Not Global Stable update.
Hi guys,
this is my first experience report about my new Poco X3 NFC with Miumi 12 after 14 days in use....
To explain: 2 years ago i got my first xiaomi redmi note 6 pro global. This machine is a fine thing, but i never liked the miui surface. So i decided to unlock and root the phone and use a custom rom. This was the very best decision for me.
So far, so good... At least i bougth my new Poco X3 NFC and i got 14 days ago. I heard a lot of "good" things about the new Miui 12, so that was one reason for me to catch this deal....
After nearby 14 days using this phone with this original surface Miui 12 i can say: it sucks, nothing else but the original apps are running smooth. It is nearly impossible to run an alternative launcher, really nothing runs flawless on this terrible, awful surface! The simplest things like "notification badges" etc. are not present, they still are not in function...
Ok, Miui "spend" a launcher: Poco Launcher. Hmm, nearby, but (for me) lightyears away from any kind of personalization. Change icons? Runs partially... Want to unlink the fu..... ring- and notification sounds? Misrepresented!!! This (for me) confusing settings menu? There is no better thing than a clean android system or custom rom!
The next annoying crap is the annoying advertising - i spend a "little" time to "destroy" this really sucking "feature".....
Oh, before i forgot: i tried to run the launchair launcher, ruthless launcher, nova launcher, microsoft launcher and at least hyperion launcher. With all this launchers it is on my phone totally impossible to run all features - on every other phone with custom rom or original they run like hell!
The one and only way to operate this phone "fine and smoothly" is this: leave it in its original condition! But who wants this? Personalization? Inadequate....
But yes, there are two things they are fine: the energy options and the camera app. But thats it for me.
So, this is my experience after 14 days and the next thing i will do is unlock the bootloader, install a recovery systen (maybe twrp or orange fox) and root the phone with magisk. With this solution i hope to improve some things - i 'll keep testing this
Best wishes and greets
I'm using Nova Launcher on all devices since a couple of years. Mui has the habit of preventing background tasks and autostart(never saw this before) for all apps except Xiaomi and Google ones and probably a few other. Autostart, notifications and widgets i only need for a handful of apps(including the launcher), and none of these worked out of the box.
But all relevant options are bundled in the app's context menu, no scrolling thru huge lists including all the system apps. Simply allow autostart, disable powersaving and give the app more or less all access rights. Running pretty well now. It's only the most bloated phone i ever had, but also the most powerful, so thats not an issue at present.
Hi lecorbusier,
thanks for your answer.
With your sentence >It's only the most bloated phone i ever had, but also the most powerful< your totally right
Yesterday i unlocked my X3, flashed TWRP - and wow: System destroyed....
Turned to fastboot, flashed OrangeFox, puh, it 's not broken....
Flashed Magisk also and today i will see what happen....
Lmao, who told you that MIUI is a good thing. It's ok, but compared to custom ROM it sucks.
If you want to try custom ROM, ArrowOS is the best optimized custom ROM + Void custom kernel If you want maximum fluidity/smoothness as it's optimized for minimum latency and jank. Battery life is still good in my usage, maybe 2 hours less maximum, but it's worth it. With stock kernel, SOT is a bit better.
ArrowOS gets improvements every day on ROM side with fixes & improvements + occasionally improvements & fixes to the device side.
I tried 5 other custom ROMs (crDroid, Resurrection Remix, LineageOS 17.1, CorvusOS, NitrogenOS) and that's my experience.
Everything works except fast charging information with Xiaomi charger (all custom ROMs have this issue) & Miracast (which I'm not sure if it works or not since I never used it).
So all in all, just flash custom ROM in this one too!
Devil's advocate here ( ), Xiaomi.eu with updated firmware and Stormbreaker kernel feels smooth as butter here -- but it takes some intensive tweaking.
Hi there, good morning from Germany
A short "update"....
After "repairing" (see 3 posts above) I've done the following:
Installed Lsposed (Magisk), installed CustoMIUIzer and started "playing" with the mass of settings in it....
What should I say: I'm pretty impressed.
Almost everything is going as hoped and does what it should! Till now I got no numbers on my notification badges, but this is a part I can live with.
That doesn't mean that i have changed my opinion about the MIUI-Surface, especially the terribly nested settings.... But with a bit of work you can establish a relatively well-running system that you can personalize according to your wishes.
So for the moment I'm pretty happy, but I'm still testing...
Ah, before i forget to mention: magisk and safetynet was another problem. I have found a module that works (for me), look here
So, thats it for today, many greetings and happy easter
Hello everyone,
here 's another short update for miui....
The good news first: it runs, Ruthless Launcher is working, original camera app is fine, other things: see my post above...
That 's it!
Unlock by (or with) bluetooth??? Fail! It seems that Xiaomi only supports its own devices - what a crap.... I clearly miss this function.
I stick to my opinion: miui sucks....
The only point that keeps me from installing a custom rom is the camera app (at least for the moment)...
My conclusion: to use all possibilities of this device you "must" use a custom rom, otherwise you have to live with the restrictions
thueringer said:
The only point that keeps me from installing a custom rom is the camera app (at least for the moment)...
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My main reason to keep Xiaomi.eu, too. When LOS becomes official, I'll brace myself for intensive testing of camera alternatives...
for me, personally, i dont like miui as well. luckily we have a bunch of custom roms out there and even i found a better rom for my daily use, i still try flashing some rom to experience some other features. tho, at the end of the day, i end up using my rom that i am using daily. if you want the rom with alot of customization, have a good BB, and have miui camera, i suggest to use Ancient OS
Hi all together
@dahrel22: thanks for your tip, it seems like this is what i was looking for...
I think I'll test it out, I can't do more than break it
Have a nice Sunday, many greetings from here...
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Hi all together
@dahrel22: thanks for your tip, it seems like this is what i was looking for...
I think I'll test it out, I can't do more than break it
Have a nice Sunday, many greetings from here...
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yes bro you better try it. im currently using the old build which is the miui verdor based. the new build comes with oss vendor but i think im not ready to flash it. i having trouble keeping my phone decrypted from oss vendor based roms. so i'll still be using the old build.
After the updates my Poco x3 NFC restarts in stand-by mode or when I'm using whatsapp, suddenly the screen goes to black..and then back to the homescreen... :/
Does anybody tried a custom rom? I would like to give a try.
Hello to everybody,
here 's my newest experience with "Miui-machine"...
I tried the tip from dahrel22 (see 4 posts above) und flashed Ancient OS 5.3 - I did everything according to the description, but in the end I had an encrypted partition on my phone....
Yesterday I had the great idea to cleam my device up und flash it again...
What can i say: it was a horrible trip
Like before I 've done everything as described - but it ends with a lot of issues like "no root" and "no system" directory, unable to mount system partion and so on and so on... This action cost me a lot of annoyance
(I tried this with two custom roms: Ancient OS 5.4 and Evolution X).
I was then able to revive the device using fastboot and the mi flashtool.
The Mi-Flashtool also ended with an error, but the system works - for whatever reason???
So at the moment I'm "driving" this damn Miui again and I'm really pissed off!
Maybe someone from you has a "smooth" idea to solve my problem??
Many greetings and thanks
thueringer said:
Hello to everybody,
here 's my newest experience with "Miui-machine"...
I tried the tip from dahrel22 (see 4 posts above) und flashed Ancient OS 5.3 - I did everything according to the description, but in the end I had an encrypted partition on my phone....
Yesterday I had the great idea to cleam my device up und flash it again...
What can i say: it was a horrible trip
Like before I 've done everything as described - but it ends with a lot of issues like "no root" and "no system" directory, unable to mount system partion and so on and so on... This action cost me a lot of annoyance
(I tried this with two custom roms: Ancient OS 5.4 and Evolution X).
I was then able to revive the device using fastboot and the mi flashtool.
The Mi-Flashtool also ended with an error, but the system works - for whatever reason???
So at the moment I'm "driving" this damn Miui again and I'm really pissed off!
Maybe someone from you has a "smooth" idea to solve my problem??
Many greetings and thanks
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im feel so sorry when i read your experience. maybe some confusion because 2 builds at the same version have different vendor based. both of them are comes with 5.3 but one comes with miui, one comes with oss. as i say i really have a hard time to keep my phone decrypted on oss when im using orange fox (now im in twrp but still no planning of flashing oss) if you flashed the old build, i mean the miui vendor based build, i think the outcome will be better.
what version of miui are you into right now?
edit: you know i feel bad for you as you need to do this "mi-flashtool" kind of stuff. next time, if you make mistake flashing something, i suggest just to flash miui rom again (miui eu will do) using recovery (i suggest twrp). i did that before many times and it never fails me.
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im feel so sorry when i read your experience. maybe some confusion because 2 builds at the same version have different vendor based. both of them are comes with 5.3 but one comes with miui, one comes with oss. as i say i really have a hard time to keep my phone decrypted on oss when im using orange fox (now im in twrp but still no planning of flashing oss) if you flashed the old build, i mean the miui vendor based build, i think the outcome will be better.
what version of miui are you into right now?
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Hi dahrel, at the moment I 'm on Miui 12... I tried to flash with OF and TWRP.
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Hi dahrel, at the moment I 'm on Miui 12... I tried to flash with OF and TWRP.
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with the newest miui 12.0.9 from xiaomi eu? have you flashed the decrypted vendor? then try to flash the oldest ancient 5.3, anyways, one more stable rom i used is PE+. the new anx cam 2.4 works pretty well.
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with the newest miui 12.0.9 from xiaomi eu? have you flashed the decrypted vendor
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Hi dahrel22, I used the Miui 12.0.8 global. What do you mean with the decrypted vendor?
I don't know the PE+...
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Hi dahrel22, I used the Miui 12.0.8 global. What do you mean with the decrypted vendor?
I don't know the PE+...
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oh i mean, you keep your phone decrypted?
i usually flash the unencrypted vendor so i dont have to flash dfe. you can find it from here.
12.0.8.0
[PATCH] Disable encryption for XIAOMI.EU ROM
disable data encryption, MLC nand write cycle is limited and encryption is make it worst how to : - download and unzip xiaomi.eu_multi_POCOX3NFC_V12.0.4.0.QJGMIXM_v12-10.zip - download and unzip vendor patch...
forum.xda-developers.com
and for 12.0.9.0
[PATCH] Disable encryption for XIAOMI.EU ROM
disable data encryption, MLC nand write cycle is limited and encryption is make it worst how to : - download and unzip xiaomi.eu_multi_POCOX3NFC_V12.0.4.0.QJGMIXM_v12-10.zip - download and unzip vendor patch...
forum.xda-developers.com
thanks to @inunxelex
which rom you want to flash now?
Hi dahrel, thank you very much for the links above
I 'm not sure which rom i 'll flash next time - maybe Ancient OS or Evolution...
are you following poco x3 updates on telegram? you can find alot of custom roms from there. some are those you cant find here.
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