Hi to all,
Well I bought the new pix6 just to find out that the connectivity to 5G network's is limited to supported counters end not to other countries beside the selected few.
Is there a way to enable 5G while keeping the phone unrooted? Coming from a M11i that in my area has 600-700Mbit/s coverage to the supposed king of Android that has barley 80Mbit/s is just disappointing. I'm in Croatia and the 5G here is in every activated in every single plan.
Thanks in advance.
Regards Goran
Ask your carrier to support the Pixel 6.
There is no way to enable it even with root unfortunately. Google locked it and they will not unlock it.
neptun2 said:
There is no way to enable it even with root unfortunately. Google locked it and they will not unlock it.
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Do you have a link to support your statement?
Look at this:
5G on your Pixel
Check your 5G availability
pixel.withgoogle.com
If you choose other as country you see this:
At this time, unlisted countries have no selected 5G carrier networks that work with Pixel phones.
There also quite a lot of topics in the pixel community like this one discussing the problem:
Pixel 6 : 5G problem Europe - Google Pixel Community
neptun2 said:
Look at this:
5G on your Pixel
Check your 5G availability
pixel.withgoogle.com
If you choose other as country you see this:
At this time, unlisted countries have no selected 5G carrier networks that work with Pixel phones.
There also quite a lot of topics in the pixel community like this one discussing the problem:
Pixel 6 : 5G problem Europe - Google Pixel Community
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Thanks for your reply.
But I do not see anything about Google being at fault.
I am just assuming that it is the government and carriers fault of said countries.
Well if the 5G phones of every other big android manufacturer like samsung, xiaomi, oneplus, motorola and so on are working great almost everywhere and pixels only work in select countries for me it is pretty clear who is to blame. In addition to that the modem inside is the same samsung modem used in the samsung s20 series and it clearly supports needed bands to work in much more than 13 countries in whole world. There are enough operators in europe present in several countries and using same equipment and bands in these like A1, T-mobile, Vodafone, Orange and so on. If it is operator's fault what is the logic phone to work from one side of the border and not from the other? To sum it up - if anything works in 100 countries and do not work in 10 you should check these 10 countries. If anything works in 10 countries and does not work in 100 it is device problem. I have not seen a single report from person in unsupported country who managed to activate 5G.
To add some history - older google 5G phones behave the same way. They are locked to support 5G in only certain countries. In these models though this is done via simple configuration files which can be edited if you have root. After that 5G works flawlessly in every country. Unfortunately for pixel 6 this does not work.
Finally , One Module-unlock 5G-Volte-VoWIFI
Hello,, After a long term of tries and workarounds. Finally found some module by ender-zhao :love::love::love::love::love::love: Thanks for him so much. Simply one module to enable 5G and Volte ,vowifi... install it from magisk , restart and...
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Danm Google not even Apple did **** like that...
take a look on Pixel5GBounty Telegram group, we're collecting money for anyone who would unlock 5G wherever the modem supports it. $290 for now
why is it that not even custom ROMs can't get the 5G working on "non-supported" carriers? Is it somewhere in the kernel? or what am I missing here? I'm android noob, so sorry if this is obvious... Thank you
I asked my provider about this 5g, and they told me that it's not the phone, but the provider that blocks the 5g connection.
My provider is fastweb, they also use windtre network in some areas. I have a 5g included plan, but I cannot have 5g connection.
They told me that there is a list of compatible devices, and this list is different from provider to provider. Simply, Fastweb has no intention to enable 5g on google pixel devices.
TIM is giving 5g to whatever device, but just for a short period of time (to sponsor their 5g network, I suppose).
Vodafone list of compatible devices is different from fastweb.
Iliad, also has a different list of compatible devices (Iliad gives 5g to pixel5)
So, no reason to blame on google...
well, I'm from Czech Republic, and I have Vodafone... Went to ask them about this issue, they told me they don't block 5G on any device, so if I have new enough SIM (I have e-SIM, so don't have to worry about that), the 5G should work, if the device supports it. Now since Pixel isn't officially available in Czech Republic, it's not working...
Getting 5G working on my Pixel would be good enough reason for me to start rooting and checking other ROMs again (last Android I rooted was I think KitKat ).
f1d0 said:
well, I'm from Czech Republic, and I have Vodafone... Went to ask them about this issue, they told me they don't block 5G on any device, so if I have new enough SIM (I have e-SIM, so don't have to worry about that), the 5G should work, if the device supports it. Now since Pixel isn't officially available in Czech Republic, it's not working...
Getting 5G working on my Pixel would be good enough reason for me to start rooting and checking other ROMs again (last Android I rooted was I think KitKat ).
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Same issue with T-mobile CZ. Said me that this is the problem of google, VoLTE working, nothing else. Have to say this is my last google phone.
It's very obvious google is whitelisting the carriers that they allow 5G access.
Pixel 6's 5G is unavailable on my carrier but it works with Google Fi sim roaming.
VoLTE is also disabled here. But I managed to just turn the switch on with root and it just works (with some extra battery drain)
And No. There's no way to unlock 5G on blocked carriers yet. Might be available in future if the bounty succeeds.
I contacted Google Support about one of the 5H networks in Ireland not being supported & they said they only support the networks listed here - https://pixel.withgoogle.com/5G/
Nothing that the network provider can fix. The support person told me to send feedback from the phone requesting support for the missing network which I do every week although I suspect I'm wasting my time.
There's also a very long thread on the Google support forum here.
Well, I've rooted mine and I'm squeezing the **** out of him right now, little rusty since I've done nothing for few years now ...but did find some articles about restricting and un restricting 5G inside Android 12 (https://developer.android.com/refer...rierConfigManager#CARRIER_NR_AVAILABILITY_NSA.) and related sub articles.
Worst case scenario it will finish in the garage, as for now garage it is.
smog3r said:
Same issue with T-mobile CZ. Said me that this is the problem of google, VoLTE working, nothing else. Have to say this is my last google phone.
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Google does not care if you buy from them. The Pixel 6 is not sold in your country anyway.
It is your government and carrier that is at fault. Your rules and laws are stopping Google from selling in your region.
vandyman said:
It is your government and carrier that is at fault. Your rules and laws are stopping Google from selling in your region.
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Could you give some evidence for that?
djoka60 said:
Could you give some evidence for that?
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Is the Pixel 6 sold in your region?
Here in the US, the FCC dictates if an electronic product can be sold.
Google is in the business to make money, they are not selling you there product for spite is Ludacris to think so.
gvpula said:
Well, I've rooted mine and I'm squeezing the **** out of him right now, little rusty since I've done nothing for few years now ...but did find some articles about restricting and un restricting 5G inside Android 12 (https://developer.android.com/refer...rierConfigManager#CARRIER_NR_AVAILABILITY_NSA.) and related sub articles.
Worst case scenario it will finish in the garage, as for now garage it is.
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did you try this method:
Activate 5G on non-5G Country
Hey, this tuto is working for several user to activate 5G on unsupported 5G country by Google. You need : Rooted phone, 5G Plan, 5G Coverage. STEP 1 : Install the module on magisk to activate VOLTE and reboot. STEP 2 : Install Network Signal...
forum.xda-developers.com
I am waiting for someone else from Croatia to try it
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Hi, I have been looking everywhere for answers and hopefully some one here can give me one.
I researched rugged phones and decided on the BV7000 Pro because it supports LTE Bands 1/3/7/8/20
My cell provider - Virgin Mobile Canada stated they run on LTE Bands 2/3/4/7
So my phone should work on Bands 3/7
When the phone searches for networks, it is able to display Virgin 4G, Telus 4G, EXT 2G, EXT 4G
When I try to connect to Virgin 4G, it tries then states it failed to register to the network and to try again later
I have confirmed my SIM card and APN settings with Virgin and the SIM card works in my old Motorola Razr but on 3G. The BV7000 doesn't work on the 3G bands Virgin uses so I can't try connecting using 3G.
So I want to know what you think is the reason why my phone can't register to Virgin Mobile Canada's Network?
Other BV7000 Users in Canada, United States and Mexico have reported the same problem.
I have contacted Blackview support and they eventually stated it won't work in Canada but provided no reason why. They posted this 11 days after I had purchased the phone and it was in the middle of being sent to me. However I suspect their support isn't the brightest based on some of the responses I have seen on their forum. The BV6000 works in Canada and the US.
I don't know anything about how the phone communicates to the provider exactly but to me it seems like there is a failure in communication in terms of security which is preventing it from connecting.
Hopefully some one can shed some light on this and maybe find a way around it so I can get this thing to work as a phone.
bv7000 pro, fails on mexico
hello, i have the same problem, live in mexico, it doesnt support 4g, If i have luck it will be 3g data, but i never seen that, only edge, i have i cool phone, but It is useless on internet data.
On the blackview forum theres no help there, Only users complaining about the same in North America
Niagua said:
hello, i have the same problem, live in mexico, it doesn't support 4g, If i have luck it will be 3g data, but i never seen that, only edge, i have i cool phone, but It is useless on internet data.
On the blackview forum theres no help there, Only users complaining about the same in North America
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Hi, I unfortunately haven't found a solution yet. I have attempted to request a return through the AliExpress website and the seller has completely ignored me. I had to contact AliExpress customer support to have my return request escalated. The seller finally contacted me today asking if I had received the phone. Which is a stupid question because there clearly is communication between use showing I received the phone and have had problems with it.
Your only option is to try to return it or find a phone provider there that it will work on so you can try to sell it to some one on that network or switch to that provider. I found a provider in Canada called 'Rogers' that it works on but I can't switch to them because I would loose my old plan that is cheaper than the modern equivalent.
Either that or learn how to hack the phone to get to the modem that technically can operate on all bands, they just have to be enabled. Blackview uses the MediaTek CPU. I am desperate to try but I am pretty sure I would kill the phone.
sooo...... do you kill the phone??.. hahaha
Is a bad phone, i try with another company in mexico (telcel), but it lost a lot the signal, when you have to make a call, surprise you can't.
asking on the facebook pago of blackview, they say is a hardware problem, so, there is no solution, only keep waiting for bv8000 (if you want to try again)
Niagua said:
sooo...... do you kill the phone??.. hahaha
Is a bad phone, i try with another company in mexico (telcel), but it lost a lot the signal, when you have to make a call, surprise you can't.
asking on the facebook pago of blackview, they say is a hardware problem, so, there is no solution, only keep waiting for bv8000 (if you want to try again)
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Still waiting for either the aliexpress customer care to figure it out or the seller to reply to me. I haven't done anything with the phone yet. I have been trying to sell it locally but only one person was interested.
When you say they said there is a hardware problem, do you mean the phone is defective or the hardware just isn't configured to work with North American networks but works fine in Asia?
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Still waiting for either the aliexpress customer care to figure it out or the seller to reply to me. I haven't done anything with the phone yet. I have been trying to sell it locally but only one person was interested.
When you say they said there is a hardware problem, do you mean the phone is defective or the hardware just isn't configured to work with North American networks but works fine in Asia?
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i understand that..... is work fine in asia but not in north america.
i'm in contact whit my seller, they try to help me with 3 problems,
- Does not detect my company's signal
- Only works with edge (doesn't support 3g or 4g)
- after make or receive a call, i can't do another one, have to reboot the device.
If they find a solution i will let you know on this forum
Niagua said:
i understand that..... is work fine in asia but not in north america.
i'm in contact whit my seller, they try to help me with 3 problems,
- Does not detect my company's signal
- Only works with edge (doesn't support 3g or 4g)
- after make or receive a call, i can't do another one, have to reboot the device.
If they find a solution i will let you know on this forum
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Hi, I was just wondering what website you bought your phone through? I bought mine through the AliExpress website, through the Desoon Technology Co., Limited store. The seller has ignored my repeated requests for a return for refund and AliExpress Customer Service won't even talk to me anymore. Nice place to run a shady store when the host website can't even enforce their own rules.
i bought on ebay, honesty i thought i will find a solution for the problem #3 (reboot after a call), but nope, blackview forum is very slow on don't give any solution.
for the problema 1 and 2.... there is no solution, the phone doesn't support 3g whit most of the companys in America (canada, us, mexico or south america), is hardware problem., this problem is fixed on the new bv8000 pro, is has more frequency bands to support global network.
It does not work 3G or 4G only 2G.
I have a blackView bv7000 pro, but it does not detect the networks of 3G or 4G only 2G, here works well only the phone with 2 SIM, the wathapp works well only the internet is very slow, in one word is not good for the internet, it is fast with the applications, but with the internet nothing else is not good.
This in Mexico with any telephone service here.
I plan to keep updating this XDA forum thread with what I find out about this problem, potential solutions, and hopefully what solves it. Hopefully this will be useful to those with the same or similar problem.
Please excuse typos...
The Solution
The reality is, prevention is the best solution here, do a bunch of research to make sure you don't encounter this problem. Read the rest of the post to better understand.
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Thank you in advance for reading this and helping me. (I also posted this in r/LGG8X, and am posting it here because some people don't have accounts with both. The more people that see it, the better, if by chance someone has ideas, wants to help, and has time to post the ideas)
It seems like a lot of people are having this issue, so maybe someone might have an idea.
I bought this phone to replace my Xiaomi Mi 9 (which was on the fritz, turning itself off randomly), about 1.5 weeks ago. I did my research and reasonably concluded that this phone has LTE band 12 and VoLTE; also it would be foolish of LG to not to have that. I could not find the VoLTE or Wifi Calling switches anywhere in the settings app, or in the phone app. I then dialed " *#*#4636#*#* " which opened up the "Testing Settings" (as usual). I click on the "Phone Information" tab, scroll down and find both the VoLTE and Wifi Calling switches, which are, to my dismay, greyed out.
I called Ting and they said, (after getting the IMEI), that this doesn't have LTE band 12, therefore no VoLTE. That confused me, because like I said, my research before buying had already concluded that it has band 12. The Ting rep said that's all he could do for me, so we ended the call. I did another 30 mins of research, again concluded it has band 12 with VoLTE. I also called LG themselves, and the rep there confirmed that this phone has band 12 with VoLTE, they also said "we would be more than happy to verify that the phone works with you carrier through phone conferencing". I asked the rep about about the previously mentioned VoLTE and Wifi Calling switches being greyed out, and they said that's because the phone has those 2 capabilities, but the carrier has to enable them.
I really love this phone, especially in comparison to the Mi 9 (even tho the Mi 9 is a good phone). I love the software better (even with the weird quirks that it has), and the value proposition is quite good. I really don't want to have to get a 3rd new phone in one year. If anyone has any ideas/help that would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
[Edit]: P.S. I think this is partly a problem with LG, and partly with the carriers. I suspect that LG messed up with the IMEI/etc and other important identifiers as to what the device is, what exact version (i.e. LM-G850UM, etc) of a particular model (i.e. LG G8X Thinq Dual Screen, etc). This leads to the cell carrier's infrastructure seeing this phone as incompatible (doesn't see LTE Band 12, when it really is. The cell carriers, (from my own experience with 2 Ting Reps, and from what others have said on other forum threads), can't or won't solve this problem, even tho it may be solvable. From what I have seen on other forums, some got it solved by the cell carrier entering codes on the phone and doing something on their side. If LG and the all the networks would talk to each about this problem and get it solved if possible that would be awesome...
Update - 11/04/2020:
It seems I unintentionally bought a G8X with the Canadian rom LMG850UM20e. I am doubtful, but is the hardware the same or similar enough to flash the USA unlocked rom LMG850QM? Or is there something else I can do to make the Ting network allow VoLTE? As far as I can tell, the Canadian model still supports VoLTE LTE Band 12, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Update - 11/05/2020:
Ting says that my phone has LTE Band 12 and therefore VoLTE, but that will only work on ATT. A bit confusing because (like I said) the particular rom on my phone is Canadian (LMG850UM20e), so why ATT? The explanation for that, it seems is that ATT, (and Sprint), and the unlocked Canadian version have the same sub-model: LMG850UM. The USA unlocked version has a different sub-model (LMG850QM), the rest of the world has yet another sub-model (LMQ850EMW). There are around 15 different versions it seems; see this reddit post on the different models: (can't post the link yet) title: "Hey G8X owner, what is the submodel number and regional code of your unit? And where did you buy it from? I am trying to complete this list, also relating to timing of security updates and Android 10 release." posted in r/LG G8X
It seems like all the versions (LMG850......) have the same hardware, the only difference are the roms, which seem artificially disable certain capabilities of the phone. I am pretty sure my phone would do VoLTE just fine on Ting (or most other carriers). The thing wrong here, I think, is that the IMEI and other specific identifiers of the phone artificially show that the phone does not have the functionality, so the networks don't enable it. It also seems like LG made an agreement or something with ATT as well as Sprint (separately), to release carrier-specific version (as most brands seem to do), and that the phone would fully work on their respective networks and MVNOs, at least the versions in the LMG850UM sub model group, and the USA unlocked sub-model group. LG and T-Mobile seem to have come to no such *official* agreement, unfortunately. I am wondering any of the versions work with T-Mobile and it's MVNOs out of the box, some *modifications* may have to be done in order to get it working on TM towers. There may also be unintentional bugs in some or all roms that are possibly causing, or more likely, adding on to the problem.
Obviously, I am still trying to find my around this problem. I'm considering flashing a USA unlocked rom (LMG850QM sub-model), though not sure if that's possible, or if it'll change what the IMEI and the other specific identifiers tell the cell carrier about compatibility. I also wonder if carriers have the ability to override the artificial restrictions. There is also one report of T-Mobile supposedly fixing the same/similar problem with Sprint for a customer, see u/Veshtarii's comments on this reddit post: (can't post link yet) title: "LG G8X unlocked models having issues with US carriers." Posted in r/LGG8X. Another reddit user used a cheap Tracfone sim card to make his phone work on T-Mobile: (can't post link yet) title: "Tutorial: How to Update eBay Unlocked ATT / AT&T LG G8x" Posted in r/LGG8X. I am unsure if he also has VoLTE working.
Update - 11/06/2020
I'm done with this... It is pretty much impossible. I commented on the "Tutorial: How to Update eBay Unlocked ATT / AT&T LG G8x" post, and the OP responded and said he can't get VoLTE working, even with doing that update. The only thing that could possibly work, is flashing the USA unlocked sub-model onto it. However I probably don't know enough to do it right, but the bigger reason is that it'll probably brick it. I've realized, and should realized when I was doing the research for a new phone, that ATT and TMO's VoLTE/Wifi Calling work differently. They both use propriety coding, which they license to each brand to use in the models they both come to agreement on, and a similar agreement with each MVNO under their towers. LG and TMO seem to have made no such agreement for the G8X, therefore in all practicality, no G8X will work on any of their towers. Also, I called H2O Wireless just to see if my phone works with them, but they said my IMEI is not compatible; so I'm not the Canadian model that I have works in the US at all, that makes me think that not even the versions inside each sub-model aren't even compatible with each other. There is that one situation I mentioned, where the person who was having problems with Sprint before the merger, took it to TMO after the merger and the TMO tech fixed it for him. But I think he must've been having a different problem, because his phone is probably still technically running on Sprint towers. Sprint made the agreement with LG, so VoLTE would work in that instance. Flashing is practically not a solution for most people.
I should've done more research than I did before buying the phone. That is the moral of this story; make sure you do all your "homework" before buying any phone anywhere but the shop of the carrier you are using (or plan to use). That leads me to my number one complaint with phone brands and especially cell carriers as whole: they make it incredibly annoying, often difficult, and confusing to find a compatible phone that isn't on the carrier store. And the problem with that is that everything in any carriers' stores is everything is stupidly overpriced, and then they get you hooked with pricey deals you don't want. If you're reading this, you're most likely like me, you know better than to spend more than you have to on a phone and plan in the carrier store, you know (or at least kinda know) how to get past that. I get that cell carriers want to make money, but I tell you, this is too far. Anyways, the point is, there is no immediate solution, in other words, your only worthwhile solution is prevention, doing a bunch of research. I'm done with this... I'm returning this phone and getting the vanilla G8...
I have the LMG850QM. It has no VOLTE icons while in call even if on band 12. It uses HD+ and that will be shown in dialer during call. Internet does work while in call so believe that it is working. The switches are on like yours but greyed out. Wi-fi calling does work. By turning on airplane mode and then turning back on wifi the dialer will show that calls are being made over Wifi. The OnePlus 6T has VoWifi icons in status bar and this phone doesn't. I will say that this phone gets service in buildings where neither of my 6t's would have service.
I am looking at getting the Pixel 6 (or possibly the 6 pro) and was checking out the Google store where they sell different versions of the 6/6pro.
I'm on Verizon and my current pixel is a Verizon version which has a locked bootloader. I've bricked my device twice because of failed OTAs and I want my next one to be an unlocked Google version instead of the locked down Verizon version. I want to be able to install TWRP like I used to with my Samsung devices (I left Samsung devices when they started locking them down).
In the fine print, it says the unlocked version does not work with Verizon's mmWave network (5G).
Is this correct? If I get an unlocked version it will not work with the fastest version of 5G? Or is this because it works with any carrier and they all use different 5G bands?
TLDR: I want a version that I can unlock the BL. Will I lose out on 5G if I buy this version? Pardon the question if this has already been answered in some of the other google 5G devices like the pixel 4/5 +5G forums...
gcodori said:
I am looking at getting the Pixel 6 (or possibly the 6 pro) and was checking out the Google store where they sell different versions of the 6/6pro.
I'm on Verizon and my current pixel is a Verizon version which has a locked bootloader. I've bricked my device twice because of failed OTAs and I want my next one to be an unlocked Google version instead of the locked down Verizon version. I want to be able to install TWRP like I used to with my Samsung devices (I left Samsung devices when they started locking them down).
In the fine print, it says the unlocked version does not work with Verizon's mmWave network (5G).
Is this correct? If I get an unlocked version it will not work with the fastest version of 5G? Or is this because it works with any carrier and they all use different 5G bands?
TLDR: I want a version that I can unlock the BL. Will I lose out on 5G if I buy this version? Pardon the question if this has already been answered in some of the other google 5G devices like the pixel 4/5 +5G forums...
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The unlocked version doesn't have the fastest version of 5g for Verizon but Verizon has that so few spots that it's basically worthless at this point. Maybe in 3 years it will be worthwhile but I wouldn't buy a phone based on that spec.
Pixel 6 and 5G: This Should Clear Things Up
Confusion around Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro 5G support has us answering your questions and confirming networks.
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Ah cool. So the short answer for Verizon is:
6 Pro - locked or unlocked works on all 5G frequencies, so get the unlocked one.
6 unlocked - does not have mmW. But Verizon mmW sux at the moment (depends where you live) so no big loss...
6 locked - works with Verizon bands but is locked by VZW
gcodori said:
Ah cool. So the short answer for Verizon is:
6 Pro - locked or unlocked works on all 5G frequencies, so get the unlocked one.
6 unlocked - does not have mmW. But Verizon mmW sux at the moment (depends where you live) so no big loss...
6 locked - works with Verizon bands but is locked by VZW
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Correct. For non-pro Pixel 6, mmW is only available on the Pixel 6 locked version from Verizon.
To be honest, look at the coverage map for mmW to see if you get any use out of it. It is so limited that most won't see a beneift. It does suck Verizon will not offer a lock non-mmW version so people can take advantage of trade-in deals and such.
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Correct. For non-pro Pixel 6, mmW is only available on the Pixel 6 locked version from Verizon.
To be honest, look at the coverage map for mmW to see if you get any use out of it. It is so limited that most won't see a beneift. It does suck Verizon will not offer a lock non-mmW version so people can take advantage of trade-in deals and such.
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I didn't realize this when I ordered my P6 but I agree it is not a huge deal at this point. I am still getting mostly LTE at home and work on VZW and slower 5g on my Pixel 5 every once in a while right now. I have had two work phones, one on TMobile and the other on AT&T both Galaxy phones and I was getting faster speeds on 5g when I had it. I am tempted to go TMobile as I now get just as good coverage at my house as Verizon.
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I didn't realize this when I ordered my P6 but I agree it is not a huge deal at this point. I am still getting mostly LTE at home and work on VZW and slower 5g on my Pixel 5 every once in a while right now. I have had two work phones, one on TMobile and the other on AT&T both Galaxy phones and I was getting faster speeds on 5g when I had it. I am tempted to go TMobile as I now get just as good coverage at my house as Verizon.
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TMobile's 5G still needs a lot of work. For me, it's less stable and speed improvements are negligible most of the time. Their LTE does just fine and I get good enough reception and speed for me.
My main reason to be with TMobile is the price I pay for our 5 lines, can't beat it.
NavySpark said:
TMobile's 5G still needs a lot of work. For me, it's less stable and speed improvements are negligible most of the time. Their LTE does just fine and I get good enough reception and speed for me.
My main reason to be with TMobile is the price I pay for our 5 lines, can't beat it.
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Are you planning to get your Pixel 6 from T-Mobile? If so, have you heard anything about how the monthly updates will work with T-Mobile Pixels vs. Google Pixels? Will it be direct from Google or indirect from T-Mobile?
BTW, I also stay with T-Mobile since my monthly has been under $100 for a decade+ for 3 lines.
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Are you planning to get your Pixel 6 from T-Mobile? If so, have you heard anything about how the monthly updates will work with T-Mobile Pixels vs. Google Pixels? Will it be direct from Google or indirect from T-Mobile?
BTW, I also stay with T-Mobile since my monthly has been under $100 for a decade+ for 3 lines.
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I bought my Pixel 6 directly from Google this time. I have been exclusively doing unlocked phones for last 3-4. Main reason is the delay in updates and features. I love how Google updates most apps and features separately of the OS update. I find many carrier phones lump upgrades together. Also give me the option to try beta softwares and such.
I usually sell on Swappa but actually doing a trade-in with Google since they offered me $375 for my Pixel 5.
NavySpark said:
I bought my Pixel 6 directly from Google this time. I have been exclusively doing unlocked phones for last 3-4. Main reason is the delay in updates and features. I love how Google updates most apps and features separately of the OS update. I find many carrier phones lump upgrades together. Also give me the option to try beta softwares and such.
I usually sell on Swappa but actually doing a trade-in with Google since they offered me $375 for my Pixel 5.
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I agree with having the direct 'link', so to speak.
I, on the other hand, have a tendency to keep phones a few years, e.g, last 4 were Nexus 5 unlocked, Pixel unlocked, One Plus 6t (T-Mobile MSM converted to international version), and next Thursday the Pixel 6 (probably T-Mobile version).
First after Motorola razor, was My Touch 3g.
phaino00 said:
I agree with having the direct 'link', so to speak.
I, on the other hand, have a tendency to keep phones a few years, e.g, last 4 were Nexus 5 unlocked, Pixel unlocked, One Plus 6t (T-Mobile MSM converted to international version), and next Thursday the Pixel 6 (probably T-Mobile version).
First after Motorola razor, was My Touch 3g.
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Very nice. I try to keep phones a whole but prior to this had two unfortunate events where I dropped it had needed to replace them. The Pixel 5 been solid but the features and price of the Pixel 6, coupled with my trade value, I decided to upgrade.
Not to hijack this thread, but I have a similar question. AT&T is not going to whitelist my OnePlus 5T for VoLTE, so I was going to get an unlocked Pixel 6 (GB7N6), but if they don't whitelist the unlocked pixel 6, then I'm out of luck for it working there too, right? I'm not concerned about mmW, but not being able to use the phone as a phone (voice / VoLTE) will be a problem. But I don't want a locked phone.
Can anyone provide some insight?
thanks in advance.
freonchill said:
Not to hijack this thread, but I have a similar question. AT&T is not going to whitelist my OnePlus 5T for VoLTE, so I was going to get an unlocked Pixel 6 (GB7N6), but if they don't whitelist the unlocked pixel 6, then I'm out of luck for it working there too, right? I'm not concerned about mmW, but not being able to use the phone as a phone (voice / VoLTE) will be a problem. But I don't want a locked phone.
Can anyone provide some insight?
thanks in advance.
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You hit the nail on the head, it is up to AT&T to whitelist. They have previously whitelisted Google phones so I think you will be ok.
This is what I found from AT&T concerning unlocked phones. File says updated October 13th 2021.
https://www.att.com/idpassets/images/support/wireless/Service-Capabilities-Unlocked-Devices-ATT-Network.pdf
I knew about the mmWave situation when I purchased my Pixel 6 and was fine with it; I bought the unlocked model for exclusive use on Verizon. I'm in the middle of North Dakota, and I'm just not worried about it. I haven't even looked at a coverage map, but my cellular bandwidth speed isn't ever why I purchase a phone. I also bought the unlocked version if I decide to root the device in the future.
mmWave 5g is currently being installed at large facilities where you will find a high density of people Places like airports and sports arenas.
This is because mmWave technology has a very short range and it generally won't penetrate buildings. I doubt mmWave 5g will EVER be used in a lot of places, but I certainly would not worry about it in this generation of phones. Even if you live in a large city (like LA) where mmWave is "rolled out" it is only going to work at these large facilities like the coliseum and airport. If you live in a medium or small city, you won't have mmWave coverage for years - perhaps ever.
There is no way I would pay $100 more for the Verizon phone with mmWave - even if I lived in a big city.
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mmWave 5g is currently being installed at large facilities where you will find a high density of people Places like airports and sports arenas.
This is because mmWave technology has a very short range and it generally won't penetrate buildings. I doubt mmWave 5g will EVER be used in a lot of places, but I certainly would not worry about it in this generation of phones. Even if you live in a large city (like LA) where mmWave is "rolled out" it is only going to work at these large facilities like the coliseum and airport. If you live in a medium or small city, you won't have mmWave coverage for years - perhaps ever.
There is no way I would pay $100 more for the Verizon phone with mmWave - even if I lived in a big city.
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Exactly. Similar to the initial Roll Out of 4G an d 5G. Its going to need time to grow.
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TMobile's 5G still needs a lot of work. For me, it's less stable and speed improvements are negligible most of the time. Their LTE does just fine and I get good enough reception and speed for me.
My main reason to be with TMobile is the price I pay for our 5 lines, can't beat it.
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I disagreed...in the Baltimore region, when there is traffic jam, 5G would connect, LTE would just stalled.
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I disagreed...in the Baltimore region, when there is traffic jam, 5G would connect, LTE would just stalled.
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I would agree some areas are always better than others but as a whole I believe it still needs a lot of work. The SA rollout is impressive but I still get a lot of "hang" time on true 5G compared to LTE.
This is in multiple areas of the country during my travels over the last year.
Wouldn't the network on which you wish to operate the device require a set parameter in the OS that allowed signals from the provider to be deciphered? Back in the day we simply called this 'the radio', and if you wanted to switch providers you had to make sure the device could 'talk' to the new network after you installed a new SIM card. You did that by comparing the device specs with what bandwidths the provider was broadcasting on. If the Pixel you buy shows in its specifications list that it works with the band your provider broadcasts on, it's then a case of ensuring the ROM you run on the device can make use of that particular radio band. Pretty simple, tbh...
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You hit the nail on the head, it is up to AT&T to whitelist. They have previously whitelisted Google phones so I think you will be ok.
This is what I found from AT&T concerning unlocked phones. File says updated October 13th 2021.
https://www.att.com/idpassets/images/support/wireless/Service-Capabilities-Unlocked-Devices-ATT-Network.pdf
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The above link was updated on November 4th and AT&T has indeed whitelisted the Pixel 6 (GB7N6). I ordered that phone from Google last week and still waiting for it to arrive. So I can't verify yet if VoLTE and wifi calling will work yet. I can update this post when I get the phone.
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The above link was updated on November 4th and AT&T has indeed whitelisted the Pixel 6 (GB7N6). I ordered that phone from Google last week and still waiting for it to arrive. So I can't verify yet if VoLTE and wifi calling will work yet. I can update this post when I get the phone.
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Good stuff, I am sure you will have no issues as long a the provisioning happens properly. My unlocked Pixel 6 had no isse with T-Mobile utilizing an eSim.
I was able to flash my XQ-BC62 (US) model with the XQ-BC42 (JP) firmware using newflasher. Everything seems to work OK except the mobile radio. The radio is completely disabled (as reported by *#*#4636#*#* status screens), not just unable to connect. The hardware is still fine since flashing back to XQ-BC62 firmware gets a signal again.
Unfortunately I need to use XQ-BC42 as the other firmware images are missing the VoLTE support for my JP carrier and it fails to provision. At best I can force it into data only mode by setting radio to LTE only. The carrier does not support 3G at all.
Extra steps I tried:
- Perform factory reset after flashing
- Swap out the files for the modem firmware from the US firmware and reflash
Has anyone had luck with this, or are there any additional steps I might need to try?
This phone keeps getting worse. I literally bought it to use in the US and Japan. Sony support said it is officially unsupported by all US telcos. No SA 5G, no VoNR, no VoWiFi. Now I hear that it doesn't work in Japan?!
I already know it's close to useless in French Polynesia despite having all the right radio bands.
You can try swapping both OEM-xxx.sin files from the XQ-BC42 firmware folder into the XQ-BC62 firmware folder and flash there XQ-BC62 firmware with that, then you should be able to get VoLTE and modem working at the same time.
If that doesn't work, there are other methods but they will require root access.
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This phone keeps getting worse. I literally bought it to use in the US and Japan. Sony support said it is officially unsupported by all US telcos. No SA 5G, no VoNR, no VoWiFi. Now I hear that it doesn't work in Japan?!
I already know it's close to useless in French Polynesia despite having all the right radio bands.
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Might you elabortate a bit on this?
So which modell? which provider? comeing form a country where all of these 5G related features are just in development this would be nice to get some further informations on this topic.
VoWiFi is highly likely a provider "problem" - as we have another thread here where these "offical support" statements are at least highly questionable, as we have multiple users here using VoWiFi.
Here is one example of an answer one got from sony
T-Mobile USA Volte and VoWifi support?
Hey XDA, is USA model XQBC62 work with T-Mobile Volte and VoWifi? PS: my old Xperia5 II wasnt able to work and returned back to Sony week later (sad)
forum.xda-developers.com
What is not working in French Polynesia?
Which carrier are you talking about? using a second sim card or use roaming capabilites? keep in mind that not all providers might allow access to all availeable networks based on there roaming contracts. just to give you a idea check these information from one of the providers over ther
https://www.vini.pf/sites/default/files/docs/liste_partenaires_vini-roaming_dec17.pdf
I took my device through several countries already not one having trouble with connectivity as long as the bands are supported and there.
On my trips to japan i head several different devices with me over the yeras, beside the xperia, not once having problems as long as the bands where supported / one is using a local sim - card.
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Unfortunately I need to use XQ-BC42 as the other firmware images are missing the VoLTE support for my JP carrier and it fails to provision. At best I can force it into data only mode by setting radio to LTE only. The carrier does not support 3G at all.
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Did you try to get in contact with the japanese carrier asking if they are supporting VoLTE for devices from other markets?
Maybe the easiest way would to switch your carrier at all.
If you are willing to dig around more you could try something like this
5II/1&5III VoLTE patch. [Guide to release the root]
In the Xperia user group in cafe.naver.com/x1smart I'm HTCMAGE. Last year, Xperia 1II. How to activate VoLTE. After the guide version...
forum.xda-developers.com
But you will need the profiles for your vendor. One could play around and try to integrate these profiles into your XQ-BC62 Firmware and see if this would work out. But well - keep fingers crossed that you don't brick anything.
OhayouBaka said:
You can try swapping both OEM-xxx.sin files from the XQ-BC42 firmware folder into the XQ-BC62 firmware folder and flash there XQ-BC62 firmware with that, then you should be able to get VoLTE and modem working at the same time.
If that doesn't work, there are other methods but they will require root access.
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I'll give this a try and report back. Thanks!
Hudrator said:
Did you try to get in contact with the japanese carrier asking if they are supporting VoLTE for devices from other markets?
Maybe the easiest way would to switch your carrier at all.
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No, they don't support overseas models. I don't know if it's ignorance around the security or an attempt to prop up their own phone sales. Both are honestly believable over here.
This is the only reasonably priced major carrier plan with unlimited international roaming included (ahamo from NTT Docomo). Not being able to use the 1 iii sucks but I'll just write the 1 iii off if it can't be fixed and continue using my JP variant 1 ii.
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I'll give this a try and report back. Thanks!
No, they don't support overseas models. I don't know if it's ignorance around the security or an attempt to prop up their own phone sales. Both are honestly believable over here.
This is the only reasonably priced major carrier plan with unlimited international roaming included (ahamo from NTT Docomo). Not being able to use the 1 iii sucks but I'll just write the 1 iii off if it can't be fixed and continue using my JP variant 1 ii.
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sad to hear - but just out of curiosity:
Why did you get yourself the "American" Variant? Docomo has, as well as softbank, there own supported devices. Kind of similar to TMobile US. Sounds you are spending most of the time in japan. I know that the Docomo version isn't so well supported regarding updates though ...
Hudrator said:
Might you elabortate a bit on this?
So which modell? which provider? comeing form a country where all of these 5G related features are just in development this would be nice to get some further informations on this topic.
VoWiFi is highly likely a provider "problem" - as we have another thread here where these "offical support" statements are at least highly questionable, as we have multiple users here using VoWiFi.
Here is one example of an answer one got from sony
T-Mobile USA Volte and VoWifi support?
Hey XDA, is USA model XQBC62 work with T-Mobile Volte and VoWifi? PS: my old Xperia5 II wasnt able to work and returned back to Sony week later (sad)
forum.xda-developers.com
What is not working in French Polynesia?
Which carrier are you talking about? using a second sim card or use roaming capabilites? keep in mind that not all providers might allow access to all availeable networks based on there roaming contracts. just to give you a idea check these information from one of the providers over ther
https://www.vini.pf/sites/default/files/docs/liste_partenaires_vini-roaming_dec17.pdf
I took my device through several countries already not one having trouble with connectivity as long as the bands are supported and there.
On my trips to japan i head several different devices with me over the yeras, beside the xperia, not once having problems as long as the bands where supported / one is using a local sim - card.
Did you try to get in contact with the japanese carrier asking if they are supporting VoLTE for devices from other markets?
Maybe the easiest way would to switch your carrier at all.
If you are willing to dig around more you could try something like this
5II/1&5III VoLTE patch. [Guide to release the root]
In the Xperia user group in cafe.naver.com/x1smart I'm HTCMAGE. Last year, Xperia 1II. How to activate VoLTE. After the guide version...
forum.xda-developers.com
But you will need the profiles for your vendor. One could play around and try to integrate these profiles into your XQ-BC62 Firmware and see if this would work out. But well - keep fingers crossed that you don't brick anything.
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I have the US model - the same as this thread topic.
It's Sony tech support themselves that told me that there is no carrier support for the US model in the US. It was such an incredible conversation that I saved it. An excerpt:
(Adrian) said :I'm asking you this because at this moment Verizon is currently the only U.S. carrier that supports 5G on the Xperia PRO model. The 5G network service is
not currently available in the Xperia 1 III model and this is why you're getting that
issue. In this particular case we recommend you to check with your phone carrier
if there is a way for them either to provide a different network service or if there is
a work around on their system for you to use your Xperia phone with their service
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Don't repeat Sony's claim about 5G being in development. T-Mobile has been running SA 5G where I live for nearly 2 years. I've done side-by-side comparisons between an older phone with SA 5G and my Xperia by swapping the SIM. The XPeria has a lot of "no service" problems because it's using SA 5G channel aggregations without having SA 5G. There's another thread on this - Sony has explicitly disabled SA 5G on all US NR bands. https://cacombos.com/device/XQ-BC62
The Sony phone was unstable roaming in PF and could not see several 3G, LTE, and 5G bands that were available to it. Again, an older phone worked better. I used a much more modern coverage map than your 2017 document.
I haven't been to Japan with this my Xperia yet due to COVID restrictions, but I normally spend ~2 weeks a year there. I know my old phone works well there so I'm going to be mad if a new Xperia is stuck looking for old 3G cells that only exist in subways.
I have an XQ-BC42 that I'm using in Europe with 5G working (which isn't supported officially).
All I had to do was flash the XQ-BC42 firmware with the following 3 files replaced by their equivalents from the XQ-BC52 firmware:
* modem_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
* modemst1_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
* modemst1_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
So in your case you just have to take the 3 files above from the XQ-BC42 firmware and combine them with everything else from XQ-BC62 firmware and flash that.
From what I've gathered, assuming your phone has XQ-BC62 firmware on it already, it might only be necessary to flash the XQ-BC42 modem files and nothing else, but I haven't tested this.
I'm assuming you can swap other files too but what definitely didn't work for me was the oem .sin files from another model's firmware. I don't know if there's something incompatible about the XQ-BC42 compared with other models but using non-XQ-BC42 oem .sin files disabled my radio completely.
kevinmcmurtrie said:
I have the US model - the same as this thread topic.
It's Sony tech support themselves that told me that there is no carrier support for the US model in the US. It was such an incredible conversation that I saved it. An excerpt:
Don't repeat Sony's claim about 5G being in development. T-Mobile has been running SA 5G where I live for nearly 2 years. I've done side-by-side comparisons between an older phone with SA 5G and my Xperia by swapping the SIM. The XPeria has a lot of "no service" problems because it's using SA 5G channel aggregations without having SA 5G. There's another thread on this - Sony has explicitly disabled SA 5G on all US NR bands. https://cacombos.com/device/XQ-BC62
The Sony phone was unstable roaming in PF and could not see several 3G, LTE, and 5G bands that were available to it. Again, an older phone worked better. I used a much more modern coverage map than your 2017 document.
I haven't been to Japan with this my Xperia yet due to COVID restrictions, but I normally spend ~2 weeks a year there. I know my old phone works well there so I'm going to be mad if a new Xperia is stuck looking for old 3G cells that only exist in subways.
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no, i am not saying it is under development. The standards are there. How ever - in different regions some of the 5g is still not rolled out / will never been seen (mmWave,SA 5G - at least for private customers).
Well i read the message you quoted a bit different - and i would love to know what other carriers have to say about that.
I personally would find it completly unlogic to sell a device like the Pro, which is said in your excerpt, to have 5G support on Verizon - but then sell the 5G capable phones which have this deactivated at all.
Supported Major U.S. Carriers: Verizon (5G), T-Mobile (4G), AT&T (4G)*
*As of 9/27/2021, please consult with your network operator to ensure compatibility with their network.
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Source:
Sony Electronics
electronics.sony.com
Might be, that t-mobile is using some more advanced features. how ever: here where i live most phones up to now don't support 5G SA, at least thats what the carriers say, as there are updates needed to make this work. So we will see here some selected phones using 5G SA - as the providers are working together with SOME of the major OEMs.
You can know ask who is responsible for supporting 5G SA or providing updates... As much as i got from t-mobile usa, they where always not really open to devices, which they don't sell directly ....
Hudrator said:
sad to hear - but just out of curiosity:
Why did you get yourself the "American" Variant? Docomo has, as well as softbank, there own supported devices. Kind of similar to TMobile US. Sounds you are spending most of the time in japan. I know that the Docomo version isn't so well supported regarding updates though ...
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I happened to be in the US at the time to pre-order and it wasn't clear that Sony would release an unlocked dual-SIM model for the JP market. I checked the radio bands before purchasing but all of this client provisioning stuff is new to me. Seems like all these laws were made to force carriers to unlock their phones / allow any standards compliant phone on their networks, and then they find this loophole with provisioning that requires more than just a SIM card...
OhayouBaka said:
You can try swapping both OEM-xxx.sin files from the XQ-BC42 firmware folder into the XQ-BC62 firmware folder and flash there XQ-BC62 firmware with that, then you should be able to get VoLTE and modem working at the same time.
If that doesn't work, there are other methods but they will require root access.
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Unfortunately this didn't work. But I did learn that the radio problem isn't an issue with the firmware itself.
Immediately after flashing the mobile radio was OK and I could use it with my alternate SIM card. As soon as I inserted the JP SIM card it triggered OMA client provisioning and killed the radio. After this happened not even the US SIM card would work anymore, and any radio related configurations can no longer be changed.
My hypotheses at this point are either (a) the client provisioning step found something off with my phone and forced it to lock down (not sure if client provisioning has the authority to do this though), (b) the client provisioning is interacting with the modem firmware in a JP-specific way and the US modem firmware is borked by this.
playstation360 said:
I have an XQ-BC42 that I'm using in Europe with 5G working (which isn't supported officially).
All I had to do was flash the XQ-BC42 firmware with the following 3 files replaced by their equivalents from the XQ-BC52 firmware:
* modem_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
* modemst1_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
* modemst1_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
So in your case you just have to take the 3 files above from the XQ-BC42 firmware and combine them with everything else from XQ-BC62 firmware and flash that.
From what I've gathered, assuming your phone has XQ-BC62 firmware on it already, it might only be necessary to flash the XQ-BC42 modem files and nothing else, but I haven't tested this.
I'm assuming you can swap other files too but what definitely didn't work for me was the oem .sin files from another model's firmware. I don't know if there's something incompatible about the XQ-BC42 compared with other models but using non-XQ-BC42 oem .sin files disabled my radio completely.
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Other than the issue after provisioning the OEM files from the JP model did work for me. If (b) is true then flashing both the oem and modem files might be a solution. I'll give that a try!
playstation360 said:
I have an XQ-BC42 that I'm using in Europe with 5G working (which isn't supported officially).
All I had to do was flash the XQ-BC42 firmware with the following 3 files replaced by their equivalents from the XQ-BC52 firmware:
* modem_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
* modemst1_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
* modemst1_X-FLASH-ALL-4BA8.sin
So in your case you just have to take the 3 files above from the XQ-BC42 firmware and combine them with everything else from XQ-BC62 firmware and flash that.
From what I've gathered, assuming your phone has XQ-BC62 firmware on it already, it might only be necessary to flash the XQ-BC42 modem files and nothing else, but I haven't tested this.
I'm assuming you can swap other files too but what definitely didn't work for me was the oem .sin files from another model's firmware. I don't know if there's something incompatible about the XQ-BC42 compared with other models but using non-XQ-BC42 oem .sin files disabled my radio completely.
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cjmovie said:
Other than the issue after provisioning the OEM files from the JP model did work for me. If (b) is true then flashing both the oem and modem files might be a solution. I'll give that a try!
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Same result, no radio after client provisioning runs and it stays borked even with the SIM card swapped out.
cjmovie said:
Same result, no radio after client provisioning runs and it stays borked even with the SIM card swapped out.
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Have you tried with only the modem files taken from the XQ-BC42 firmware? Might be worth a shot.
Also, it might be worth asking on the 5ch thread if you speak Japanese.
playstation360 said:
Have you tried with only the modem files taken from the XQ-BC42 firmware? Might be worth a shot.
Also, it might be worth asking on the 5ch thread if you speak Japanese.
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I spent a few more days trying various combinations of flashing, factory resets, etc. and finally have it working. I don't know if this is the only way to achieve this, but I can share the sequence I did most recently. This was inspired by the discussions in that 5ch thread - thanks for the link!
1. Install JP variant ROM with full factory reset.
2. Install the JP SIM card and wait for provisioning to finish. The radio stops working at this point.
3. Create and flash a hybrid ROM, using the modem*.sin files from the JP variant and everything else from the original (US) variant. Do NOT factory reset.
4. Set the correct APN (sp-mode.net for ドコモ).
After this both the JP and US SIM cards are working.
@cjmovie
Congrats on this achievement! Hope you can now use your device as you wished!
Hi, i bought a unlocked xq-bc62 in US. I travel a lot and discovered 5G won't work in several carriers networks, no matter what I do in the phone ( I spend more time outside US). I called the carriers support and they confirmed their network doesn't have any lock preventing the use of overseas 5G bought phones. So far, I tried to use it in Portugal, UK, Ireland and Brazil but 5G is not recognized by the phone. I changed the sim for a 5G local one, changed ASN, manually chose network (5G ones are not displayed) and no success. I even tried to pray, but again, no success. I contacted Sony Support and they said phone will only work in 5G in 2 of the 3 main carriers in US and not outside US, despite the phone tech specs says it will work in all the frequencys used by above carriers. There are some threads here that confirm xq-bc62 Is not a full 5g phone. All said and done, my Question: is it possible to flash another region Image like xq-bc52 or xq-bc72 in this hardware? Will it work fine and, mainly, will 5G networks be accessible outside US? Tks
Some times its hardware but you can try mtk engineer mode settings there may be something of use there
If you can get the original vendor file usually have (user low ship...) its usually international
Unless the phone is using 4.5G and not real 5G
marcofgn2 said:
Hi, i bought a unlocked xq-bc62 in US. I travel a lot and discovered 5G won't work in several carriers networks, no matter what I do in the phone ( I spend more time outside US). I called the carriers support and they confirmed their network doesn't have any lock preventing the use of overseas 5G bought phones. So far, I tried to use it in Portugal, UK, Ireland and Brazil but 5G is not recognized by the phone. I changed the sim for a 5G local one, changed ASN, manually chose network (5G ones are not displayed) and no success. I even tried to pray, but again, no success. I contacted Sony Support and they said phone will only work in 5G in 2 of the 3 main carriers in US and not outside US, despite the phone tech specs says it will work in all the frequencys used by above carriers. There are some threads here that confirm xq-bc62 Is not a full 5g phone. All said and done, my Question: is it possible to flash another region Image like xq-bc52 or xq-bc72 in this hardware? Will it work fine and, mainly, will 5G networks be accessible outside US? Tks
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Yep, the US models have numerous disabled features and run late on updates. I've also noticed it's crippled or disabled while roaming. I'm not sure if it's directly from disabled features or it it has been blocked by telcos because it malfunctions. (It gets kicked off cell towers in the US)
The US model has slightly different radio hardware so I would expect problems flashing the OS from another region. There are some tricks for changing the feature lists that might be a safer bet.
kevinmcmurtrie said:
Yep, the US models have numerous disabled features and run late on updates. I've also noticed it's crippled or disabled while roaming. I'm not sure if it's directly from disabled features or it it has been blocked by telcos because it malfunctions. (It gets kicked off cell towers in the US)
The US model has slightly different radio hardware so I would expect problems flashing the OS from another region. There are some tricks for changing the feature lists that might be a safer bet.
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How would one check what is and isn't turned on network wise??
I was able to flash the XQ-BC52 ROM in my XQ-BC62 hardware. So far, working fine in 4G+, but I´m in area with no 5G coverage. Tomorrow I will go to an 5G area and check f it worked. If not, I will try the XQ-BC72. I will keep you posted.
kevinmcmurtrie said:
Yep, the US models have numerous disabled features and run late on updates. I've also noticed it's crippled or disabled while roaming. I'm not sure if it's directly from disabled features or it it has been blocked by telcos because it malfunctions. (It gets kicked off cell towers in the US)
The US model has slightly different radio hardware so I would expect problems flashing the OS from another region. There are some tricks for changing the feature lists that might be a safer bet.
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Would you mind to message me what tricks you are talking about? Tks
marcofgn2 said:
Would you mind to message me what tricks you are talking about? Tks
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Maybe something along the lines of Getting VoLTE and VoWiFi on unlisted carriers by flashing mbn file or 5II/1&5III VoLTE patch. [Guide to release the root] or https://band.radio/
I haven't rooted yet so I haven't tried them. I bring a T-Mobile LG Velvet 5G with me when I travel. It's a little slower but doesn't have all the telco problems.
Test done, xqbc-52 doesn't see 5G network as well. XQ-BC72 SEA is a no go, don't even recognize the SIM card in the phone.
Will try another firmwares and the tweaks kevinmcmurtrie mentioned above, but my feeling is: I paid the 5G price for the Phone and actually got a a 4G Phone. Very frustrated with Sony. Thinking seriously about going back to Samsung.
marcofgn2 said:
Test done, xqbc-52 doesn't see 5G network as well. XQ-BC72 SEA is a no go, don't even recognize the SIM card in the phone.
Will try another firmwares and the tweaks kevinmcmurtrie mentioned above, but my feeling is: I paid the 5G price for the Phone and actually got a a 4G Phone. Very frustrated with Sony. Thinking seriously about going back to Samsung.
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But hey here's the pros, best physical camera sensors, Micro SD card Slot and headphone jack...
UPDATE!!! 5G is working!!!!! After Several Attempts, I finally got 5G. What worked for me, in Claro BR Network, was flash a Hybrid ROM. I Flashed A XQ-BC52 ROM with Modem files from XQ-BC72. So far everything working as it should. My only concern, next month I will be in Germany, may I have trouble in LTE over there with XQ-BC72 modems?
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But hey here's the pros, best physical camera sensors, Micro SD card Slot and headphone jack...
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Tks for the spirits up Ainz_Ooal_Gown. The main reason I Bougth Sony 1 iii is the 3,5 mm jack. I hate USB adapters......
Ok, major setback. it worked for 3 hours and when I turned on my second Sim card the phone 5G was gone. Turned it off, reset radio configs, but no success. Apparently turning the second sim on override the BC72 configs. Time to get serious now and root the phone, what I'm very reluctant to do.
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UPDATE!!! 5G is working!!!!! After Several Attempts, I finally got 5G. What worked for me, in Claro BR Network, was flash a Hybrid ROM. I Flashed A XQ-BC52 ROM with Modem files from XQ-BC72. So far everything working as it should. My only concern, next month I will be in Germany, may I have trouble in LTE over there with XQ-BC72 modems?
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How did you manage to do that? Could you please explain the process?
Settings, Network & internet, Smart connectivity and turn off. On by default. See if it works. I found where I am at it tends to look for wifi over 5G.
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How did you manage to do that? Could you please explain the process?
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That's what I want to more..i have the xq-bc72 on mint mobile and no5g.even my kids xiaomi 11 5g ne has 5g on mint.
I am on Mint, T-mobile towers. 5G works great, has to be in your settings. For MMS use the T-mobile APN settings.
I would like to activate 4g+ on my xq-bc52!
how to do ?
thank you.