Benefits of conversion/crossflash/GSI - OnePlus Nord N10 5G Questions & Answers

Unlocked US T-mo variant here. Been thinking of simply rooting and debloating it and maybe trying a few custom ROMs when I have more time but after reading a few posts I'm a bit confused by the different options. Specifically I'd like to know if there are any benefits of converting to international or GSI with MSM over the traditional rooting methods. Thanks

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[Q] installing custom rom on gtab

some questions before i buy this tablet... is it easy to install custom rom on it e.g. as easy as on an htc desire via clockworkmod? Do i need to worry about anything when buying it? (e.g. some models with unlockable bootloader something like that)??
Modding is relatively easy, especially if your already familiar with android and cwm. But there are quirks to the gtab, so you have to read and be aware of them. For example there are 2 different bootloaders out there and you need to use different versions of cwm for both. But overall it's not that hard to figure out. No worries about getting a locked down device. Plus the thing is basically un-brickable.
This site will get you up to speed http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/

Custom Rom safety question

I am rooted on my thunderbolt and have had no issues when flashing new Roms. The S3 will be my first samsung. I will be rooting when I get it but am a bit apprehensive on flashing some of these Roms since I have seen several people Brick their phone already.
I will have the US version. how do you know which ROM's are international and which are safe for US flashing? I read through a couple of the warnings in the development section but must have missed that info somewhere.
thanks.
Are there any ROM's currently available that work 100%?
The US version has its own forum. This is not it. The people that brick their phones do not know what they are doing.

Atrix noob user - Questions.

Hi,I bought a atrix 1 month ago and I want to put a custom rom,I researched a lot,but I found a lot of outdateds topics.
The question is:
What topic is good to teach me how install a custom rom.
PS:I'm a new android user,so I dont know how root my atrix or unlock my boot loader.
If anyone know,what is the diference between atrix USA and atrix EU/UK ? I have a Eu/Uk atrix.
Thanks.
If you're really that much of a noob, then there are two possible solutions: either read and learn and teach yourself everything you don't know, or let someone else do this for you. The tutorials and guides are all out there, very detailed, and just because a guide is older than you'd expect doesn't mean it's outdated. A lot of guides on this are still very much valid. There are also threads and guides designed especially for n00bs, so definitely go over those too.
The whole process has been outlined countless times (you could've done some searching yourself), but here it is again:
Unlock the bootloader - keywords: pudding, ihop
Flash a custom recovery - keywords: cwm, twrp, romracer
Flash a custom ROM of choice - keywords: too many to mention
(Notice that rooting is not mentioned here, if you're going to install a custom ROM rooting is irrelevant.)
The process assumes you have Motorola USB drivers, the moto-fastboot utility, and the Android SDK fully installed and operational.
There is no physical difference between USA and UK Atrixes, only the software. Also been covered many many times already.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE use search, and then use it again.
Thank you,I will search and learn a lot,what custom rom do you indicate me?cm 10 ,cm 7 or other? I dont matter for webtop and fingerprint. See you
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It would depend on what you want from your device. If you want ultimate stability and don't mind a somewhat outdated platform, then I'd recommend CM7. If you want the latest OS version and don't mind slight instability and lack of functionality, then CM10. There are also the "blurry" variants - modified stock GB ROMs, stock and modified ICS (based on the leak)...

[Q]at&t unocked vs international factory unlocked

I want to buy one m8. what is the difference between at&t factory unlocked and international factory unlocked version. can i flash roms in international version thread on at&t factory unlocked model directly??
Yes you can flash any rom you want from the international thread. I am currently running Android Revolution.
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The 3G and LTE band compatibility is different. Do you intend to use on the AT&T network? If so, the "international" (EMEA) version is compatible with AT&T's 3G bands (850 and 1900 MHz); but lacks both of the LTE bands used by AT&T (700 and 1700 MHz) according to this: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_(m8)-6074.php
Not band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing different software (ROM, radio, etc.). This means the EMEA version cannot be used on AT&T's LTE network, not matter what you do.
If using on a carrier besides AT&T, I'd check the band compatibility with what your carrier uses. Even if the AT&T version is compatible (with you carrier), I'd probably recommend the international version over it (if compatible as well). The AT&T version is loaded with crappy AT&T bloat and limitations. For instance, WiFi hotspot is blocked, so bootloader needs to be unlocked and the phone rooted in order to make it work on other networks.
Plus, there is the ugly AT&T logo on the back.
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
I would really appreciate some help
Maelstrom08 said:
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
I would really appreciate some help
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Then I suggest you start reading...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8?nocache=1
Look in there and
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=htc+one+m8+root
I have the ViperOneM8 rom installed. What is even cool is in the tweeks, you can change the AT&T bootup and logoff screen to a viperone screen. And change the AT&T logo in the pull down menu to any picture you want. s-off isn't really needed unless you plan on changing the kernel.
Maelstrom08 said:
Just thought i would bump this thread instead of making a new one. I bought an unlocked at&t htc one m8 off of ebay that i plan to use in another country (i study abroad). I already checked that the frequency bands are compatible, etc. Here's the thing, i don't want my phone to have anything to do with at&t other than the logo in the back. In other words, i want to make it as similar as posible (if not exactly the same) to the international unlocked version. Is this possible with just software changes, etc? (i've read the phones are the same in terms of hardware). I want to remove all at&t bloatware and limitations. can someone please give me quick explanations of what i need to do or point me in the right direction? I'm not new to xda or rooting, but the only smartphone i've ever had is a samsung vibrant (which i've rooted and flashed roms countless times).. this is my first htc phone, so im not very familiar with htcdev or s-off.. but i learn quickly.
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What you describe is easy to do by just unlocking the bootloader, installing custom recovery, and flashing any international based stock rooted ROM or custom ROM. I basically have done the same, as even though AT&T is my carrier, I absolutely hate their branding, non-standard signal icons, bloatware, and limitations (particularly Wifi Hotspot/tethering).
As the previous user already suggested, learning and reading is the best thing for you to do. Don't proceed until you have a good understanding of the concepts and process. My Index thread (specific to the AT&T versions) is a good place to start up reading: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
Great, thanks for the information and guidance guys. i'll definitely spend the next couple days reading before rooting the device, i can't afford to brick it. Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
Developer build device and ATT device are same exact hardware, ONLY difference is ones sim locked and other isnt, bought 2 developer device from [email protected]'s both run fine on ATT networks...
Maelstrom08 said:
Great, thanks for the information and guidance guys. i'll definitely spend the next couple days reading before rooting the device, i can't afford to brick it. Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
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no additional advice. I think red point has a wonderful index that should work well for you.
I just wanted to tell you what a wonderfully refreshing attitude you have . Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any specific questions.
Maelstrom08 said:
Any other tips or advices as to how to go about rooting, etc?
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If you look at my Index thread I linked above, the first item under "Unlock Bootloader, ROOT, S-Off" is an excellent step-by-step guide to rooting. There really isn't much I can't add, the guide is so thorough. But I'd still advise to read around and make sure you fully understand all the concepts and steps, and not just blindly follow the guide.
If the goal is to install a custom ROM, you can stop before the step in guide where it says to flash SuperSU (after flashing TWRP), and just put a ROM on the phone and flash in recovery similar to how you have done in the past. The guide is written with the intent of staying on the stock ROM and rooting.
One tip I can give, is that you may notice there are some Toolkits that attempt to automate some of the process (bootloader unlock, custom recovery, root, etc.). I would actually recommend avoiding the use of these. Reason being, the steps aren't actually all that hard to do "manually", plus these toolkits (while well meaning) shortcut the learning process, and rob you of a valuable learning opportunity.
I'm assuming OP doesn't want a custom ROM or root. Just to convert the AT&T branded model to a stock unlocked model, and still get OTA updates. This is possible. You need to unlock the bootloader, get S-OFF, and then follow this guide (you can skip step 1, changing MID): http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/change-wwe-m8-to-dev-edition-ota-t2826567
mindmajick said:
no additional advice. I think red point has a wonderful index that should work well for you.
I just wanted to tell you what a wonderfully refreshing attitude you have . Feel free to PM me anytime if you have any specific questions.
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Thanks a lot man, you seem to have a really nice personality yourself as well. I'll definitely take you up on that offer when I get a chance.
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If you look at my Index thread I linked above, the first item under "Unlock Bootloader, ROOT, S-Off" is an excellent step-by-step guide to rooting. There really isn't much I can't add, the guide is so thorough. But I'd still advise to read around and make sure you fully understand all the concepts and steps, and not just blindly follow the guide.
If the goal is to install a custom ROM, you can stop before the step in guide where it says to flash SuperSU (after flashing TWRP), and just put a ROM on the phone and flash in recovery similar to how you have done in the past. The guide is written with the intent of staying on the stock ROM and rooting.
One tip I can give, is that you may notice there are some Toolkits that attempt to automate some of the process (bootloader unlock, custom recovery, root, etc.). I would actually recommend avoiding the use of these. Reason being, the steps aren't actually all that hard to do "manually", plus these toolkits (while well meaning) shortcut the learning process, and rob you of a valuable learning opportunity.
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Yeah, I plan on doing it manually. Thanks for all the good advise man. I'm liking what I see in these forums, I'm glad I landed here.
Sorry it took me this long to reply guys, I have been very busy in the past week. Time to learn me some HTC one m8.
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One last question guys, hopefully somebody can answer me. I've already read a few topics on the terminology used (s-off, ruu, htcdev, etc.), and things don't seem to be too far from what i thought they were. I'm ready to root and flash a custom rom, but here's my question:
I'm a very methodical person, i like to know what I'm doing and that it's the right way to do it. When i flashed a new rom (or rom version) on my samsung vibrant i would do a full wipe (factory reset, clear chache, clear dalvik cache, format system, and format data) before flashing, then i would flash the rom, and then i would flash the rom on top of itself without doing a full wipe. This method worked for me for over 3 years and kept me from getting common bugs some people complained about. Is it fine if i do this with my m8? (i mainly want to know if it can cause problems).. What's your common flash routine?
Thanks for the help guys
I am simple, I do what you do except the double flash.
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Maelstrom08 said:
I'm a very methodical person, i like to know what I'm doing and that it's the right way to do it. When i flashed a new rom (or rom version) on my samsung vibrant i would do a full wipe (factory reset, clear chache, clear dalvik cache, format system, and format data) before flashing, then i would flash the rom, and then i would flash the rom on top of itself without doing a full wipe. This method worked for me for over 3 years and kept me from getting common bugs some people complained about. Is it fine if i do this with my m8? (i mainly want to know if it can cause problems).. What's your common flash routine?
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What you've stated is fine. Although factory reset already wipes data, cache and Dalvik, so its a bit redundant.
I'm the opposite of methodical (at least in the way you describe). I like to get things done with as few steps as possible (while still doing it right). I've similarly been flashing ROMs on Android devices for 4 years (4 HTC devices and 2 Samsung). But I hardly ever wipe system (flashing a ROM does that by default) and never double flash, and I've never had any issues I would attribute to flashing methods.
Some folks will swear by wiping system for every ROM flash, but honestly while there is nothing wrong with it, I don't believe in it and almost never do it (unless sometimes where the ROM specifically says to do so in the instructions).
On the other hand, there is nothing wrong with redundancy, and if you like to be methodical and thorough I would say just keep doing what you have been doing.
Hi there,
i hope that i will get better answer here.
My question is that i have m8 cell htc, but the problem is i dont know how to check what software was intalled in it at beginnig, i installed at&t marshmallow but want to know weather it was of at&t of international and device does not have any icon on the back of the device. thanks
bilalkamal said:
Hi there,
i hope that i will get better answer here.
My question is that i have m8 cell htc, but the problem is i dont know how to check what software was intalled in it at beginnig, i installed at&t marshmallow but want to know weather it was of at&t of international and device does not have any icon on the back of the device. thanks
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Do fastboot getvar all, and post the results (delete IMEI and serial number before posting) and if we look at that info, we can probably determine what version it is.

Can You Install Cyanogen Mod 12.1 without root?

Topic says it all, if so can someone send me a tutorial. Also I have the VS985 and i'm on 5.1.1
ronald12378 said:
Topic says it all, if so can someone send me a tutorial. Also I have the VS985 and i'm on 5.1.1
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In order to install any custom roms (CM12.1 included), you not only must have root, but you'll also need an unlocked bootloader (or a solution such as bump for the G3 to even allow the custom rom to boot), and a custom recovery as well. I don't want to be rude, but I've seen a lot of people screw up devices by trying to do far more than they understand - which based on you asking this question you're pretty clearly in that group. So, if you're wanting to install CM12.1 you can easily do so, but you need to do some reading in the general, android development, and original android development sections on the subjects of rooting, unlocking, installing TWRP (or another custom recovery if you prefer), etc. Make sure you also understand what build you're on (10B, 11C, 12B, etc. etc. etc.) and how that affects things (some methods work on some builds but not on others - for example if you're already on 5.1.1 you've unfortunately upgraded to the point where Verizon largely blocked downgrading. There has been one confirmed working method utilizing a .tot file and a specific .dll file that still works, however. You'll find that all by reading around in the various sections previously mentioned).
Then once you're done reading, read it all again....and then again after that Some solid time spent reading to make sure you understand everything will prevent you from turning you nice phone into an expensive paper weight and is more than worth it if you really want to get into the world of custom rom'ing. It's a lot of fun, but you need to understand what you're doing - at least at a high level. Once again, I'm not wanting to be rude, I just don't want to see you put yourself into a situation that far too many people before you have done

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