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hi i like this phone but without double take to wake i wont buy it.
it doesnt have the 4g b20 800mhz. i could live with that.. but i really cant live without double tap to wake i have a lg g3. and every chinees phone i buy has it. so for me it's a standard
Your can wakeup by fingerprint sensor. It was the best.
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U can also use the proximity sensor, it's faster than fingerprint and dt2w and eats nearly zero battery.
i was tempted to port it but after getting used to the fingerprint i guess its not really necessary
hum. my phone is always laying on the table next to my pc. so it's pretty annoying to have to lift up the phone to see if i have notifications. (i mean to read them)
i have LG phone and i can't live without double tap to wake. i mso used to the back buttons so a finger print scanner on the back is nice but no dt2w is stupid i mean i dont always have my phone in my hand. so if i want to wake it up i just double tap, but without that i need to lift up the phone or press the side power button dont know it seems pretty annoying for me.
i had a doogee f5 great phone but i use more double tap to wake then a finger print scanner i mostly turned it off cause i hate passwords only use it when im not at home. but soo yeah without double tape to wake this xiaomi is a no for me every 'f:iking chinees phone has double tap to wake even 50$ ones
why can't a 160euro xiaomi have it ilove xiaomi it's quality but yeah no 800mhz 4g and no double tap. if it had double tap to wake i could consider buying it.
so no rom has it implanted? or some one made it?
Seriously! I have redmi note 3 and i miss this feature a lot, even just to read notifications i need to hold up the phone and press power button or fingerprint scanner. Now many would argue and say there are apps like active display/gravity screen/proximity sensors but they all consume some amount of battery. Also these apps would be user apps, not system ones and so would be killed by miui Aggressive battery saver mode.
gagan7 said:
Seriously! I have redmi note 3 and i miss this feature a lot, even just to read notifications i need to hold up the phone and press power button or fingerprint scanner. Now many would argue and say there are apps like active display/gravity screen/proximity sensors but they all consume some amount of battery. Also these apps would be user apps, not system ones and so would be killed by miui Aggressive battery saver mode.
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Finally some one who understands.
Yes there are apps but all use proximity or something.
I just love double tap is so easy.
And my lg g3 is getting old and the g4 is a bit expensive and not much of a ungrade so im looking for a new phone but thats almost impossible to find someone better then my lg g3 for a good price
reggiexp said:
Finally some one who understands.
Yes there are apps but all use proximity or something.
I just love double tap is so easy.
And my lg g3 is getting old and the g4 is a bit expensive and not much of a ungrade so im looking for a new phone but thats almost impossible to find someone better then my lg g3 for a good price
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I had posted this in miui forums, but got the same vague response. Even though mi4 and others had this feature, it's missing on note3. Everyone considers it redundant due to the fingerprint sensor at the back but to me it removing dt2w would have only made sense if the fingerprint sensor was on front. From the looks of it, guess xiaomi won't be adding this feature back anytime soon. Till then we could just hope that someone somewhere ports it rn3.
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I had posted this in miui forums, but got the same vague response. Even though mi4 and others had this feature, it's missing on note3. Everyone considers it redundant due to the fingerprint sensor at the back but to me it removing dt2w would have only made sense if the fingerprint sensor was on front. From the looks of it, guess xiaomi won't be adding this feature back anytime soon. Till then we could just hope that someone somewhere ports it rn3.
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Yup tell then i wont buy it... I mean it's a steal for its price but damn. It's a simple feature that every phone out of China has.... Damit.
And wierd the mi4 has it. (saw the miui forum reeded every page) snif guess the remdi note won't be my next phone or will it? hahaa
damit i love the battery life. and the 'openess' of xiaomi/miui with sources aviable etc. i think it will get some custom roms. even if miui is already great.
i can get used to no double tap but i will miss it... and still hope some one ou xiaomi will implant it.. the 4g b20 pff not sure if i really do care that much.
but can some one tell me how dark the lowest brightness is? is it lower then a lg g3? or is it lower then a oneplusone (lg g3 is pretty bright a 0% that's not always fun, oneplusone was great at 0% very dark)
I used fingerprint sensor to wakeup by second finger. I found it was excellent.
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We just need a kernel support for it if the dispaly pannel supports that gesture!
AmolAmrit said:
We just need a kernel support for it if the dispaly pannel supports that gesture!
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just needs time.
there are more and more roms every day.
some one started on a kernel. (or something with kernel)
it will come.
i ordered the phone (again lol i bought it first a 163.50 euro and now its 155.96euro at a other seller) i tried to get my seller to drop the price or give me a flip cover. but he wouldnt. so i canceled. now just wait for it to ship finaly a fast phone again. after 6 months a oneplusone then exchanging that for a lg g3 2gb was a good deal but the lg is getter slower and slower i mean the apps are getting heavier and heavier i use greenify and **** for the facebook app. but messenger whatsapp snapchat arent greenified cause i need notifications lol
if i let that apps sleeps i will get a fast phone i think. love the lg g3 it's one year. but i want better battery life faster phone and no bull**** 2k screen to get less battery life
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just needs time.
there are more and more roms every day.
some one started on a kernel. (or something with kernel)
it will come.
i ordered the phone (again lol i bought it first a 163.50 euro and now its 155.96euro at a other seller) i tried to get my seller to drop the price or give me a flip cover. but he wouldnt. so i canceled. now just wait for it to ship finaly a fast phone again. after 6 months a oneplusone then exchanging that for a lg g3 2gb was a good deal but the lg is getter slower and slower i mean the apps are getting heavier and heavier i use greenify and **** for the facebook app. but messenger whatsapp snapchat arent greenified cause i need notifications lol
if i let that apps sleeps i will get a fast phone i think. love the lg g3 it's one year. but i want better battery life faster phone and no bull**** 2k screen to get less battery life
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You're right. Gonna get this device asap.
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In twrp recovery the screen wakes up by just tapping on screen in redmi note 3. I am using twrp cofface. That means the display can support double tap to wake up.
Hoping some developer start working on it soon.
naveen6252 said:
In twrp recovery the screen wakes up by just tapping on screen in redmi note 3.
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You are mistaken. Check again your screen before "tapping to wake". You will see that screen is still powered up, it just has backlight dimmed to very low value.
uoiea0 said:
You are mistaken. Check again your screen before "tapping to wake". You will see that screen is still powered up, it just has backlight dimmed to very low value.
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Just checked again in dark room. Clearly the screen is off. Also its not an amoled display that i can't figure out.
reggiexp said:
hi i like this phone but without double take to wake i wont buy it.
it doesnt have the 4g b20 800mhz. i could live with that.. but i really cant live without double tap to wake i have a lg g3. and every chinees phone i buy has it. so for me it's a standard
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Short answer that it's likely not.
If you'll look at in which models Xiaomi is used to implement this feature you'll notice it only appears for the (premium?) MI lineup models.
Redmi phones hasn't ever had this feature in Xiaomi OEM ROMs/kernels despite hardware support. So, it is unlikely that it will ever come to RMN3 Pro in OEM ROM.
However, should someone have implemented it in a custom kernel, it is rather simple task to make it available in the Settings app through a patch.
dymbo said:
Short answer that it's likely not.
If you'll look at in which models Xiaomi is used to implement this feature you'll notice it only appears for the (premium?) MI lineup models.
Redmi phones hasn't ever had this feature in Xiaomi OEM ROMs/kernels despite hardware support. So, it is unlikely that it will ever come to RMN3 Pro in OEM ROM.
However, should someone have implemented it in a custom kernel, it is rather simple task to make it available in the Settings app through a patch.
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we will see. not in a hury.
don't have the phone yet.
it's on it's way. will get used to no double tap to wake it will obligat me to use the fingerprint scanner always i hate passwords but what ever.
but it's stupid cause every cheap mediatek phone has double tap to wake and xiaomi nope, just a big middel finger but anyway it's a great phone for it's price (i hope)
Coming from the LG G2 I too miss this feature a lot!
Hate to pick the Note up to unlock it if its lying flat on the table....such a simple and essential feature
monkeytown said:
Coming from the LG G2 I too miss this feature a lot!
Hate to pick the Note up to unlock it if its lying flat on the table....such a simple and essential feature
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Use Gravity Screen https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree
Then just swipe over the proximity sensor and the screen turns on, no battery drain and you can disable/enable it with one tap in the status bar
BGR India says in their review this phone not only has double tap to wake (I know), but also "lift to wake".
Where is that setting or are they full of crap? I haven't found. Doesn't mean it's not there, hidden somewhere...
http://www.bgr.in/reviews/lg-v30-review/
Waking the phone is easy enough with a double-tap or lift-to-wake gesture, but I’d still prefer a traditional power button positioning
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Face unlock will let you directly go to the home screen with a double-tap or pressing the power button, while the phone can see your face. Activating lift-to-wake can make this even quicker, doing away with the need to knock to wake the device
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I totally found this as a bug the other day but of course, now I cant replicate it. I had AOD activated and would tap the fingerprint/power button and the screen turned completely black. Once I picked it up, the AOD screen turned back on. Not sure what other factors were involved.. I call scam.
I can only think that if the phone if face down AOD turns off, when you lift it up it turns on other than that not found a way to do this and haven't had it as a bug either
Very strange. Makes me think they didn't even really use this phone - just culled together statements from other reviews. to TWICE mention a feature that's not even on the phone?
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See attachment. I have V30+ Korea variant. India variant is V30+ dual sim. I think they want to mention this feature.
starrynighthn said:
See attachment. I have V30+ Korea variant. India variant is V30+ dual sim. I think they want to mention this feature.
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But that's not what they described...
They mention face unlock, but then talk about lift to wake as something different from that. See the quotes in post #1. I have lift to wake on my Moto XT1225, so I'm very familiar with that feature. This phone doesn't have it, unless I'm just not seeing the setting.
With lift to wake, when you pick up the phone, the display turns on. Has nothing to do with facial unlock or even pointing it towards your face. It would be the movement of picking up the phone.
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ChazzMatt said:
But that's not what they described...
They mention face unlock, but then talk about lift to wake as something different from that.
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Actually this feature works like "Raise to wake and unlock by face". It's very fast. But I also prefer to disable it.
starrynighthn said:
Actually this feature works like "Raise to wake and unlock by face". It's very fast. But I also prefer to disable it.
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To clarify, you are talking about facial unlock and not actually lift to wake, right? Because in REAL lift to wake you don't need to point it towards your face. The motion sensor reacts to movement and wakes the phone.
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ChazzMatt said:
To clarify, you are talking about facial unlock and not actually lift to wake, right? Because in REAL lift to wake you don't need to point it towards your face. The motion sensor reacts to movement and wakes the phone.
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I see. I also have an iPhone 6s that have "Raise to wake" feature.
I'm pretty sure my S7e had the option to turn the screen completely off when in a pocket or face down, even when AOD was turned on. I can't find any way to do that on the S9. Even on auto brightness it stays on, very dimly. On manual brightness, it stays on at whatever brightness you've set. What's the point of having AOD use even a little bit of battery if you can't see the display at all?
Anyone found a way to shut AOD off in these circumstances?
Try Blocking Touches in the Display Options.
Goofytek said:
Try Blocking Touches in the Display Options.
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Thanks, but that's not it. I do have that turned on. It's not that AOD turns off but comes back on because of touches. Unlike the S7, it never turns off, even in a pocket or screen down.
Is this just a rant? Cause it seems like you've answered your own question.
Actually, it does turn off completely. If you cover the proximity sensor for around 30 seconds, the AOD turns off completely.
Same as the S7, same as the S8.
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Thanks, but that's not it. I do have that turned on. It's not that AOD turns off but comes back on because of touches. Unlike the S7, it never turns off, even in a pocket or screen down.
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I've been trying to solve this as well. It seems some models have different wording in the block touches option. My tmobile device says something like prevent touches while in a dark place, pocket. I've been told the wording for that option on other models is more like disable screen in dark places, pockets. I hope it gets changed in an update.
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Actually, it does turn off completely. If you cover the proximity sensor for around 30 seconds, the AOD turns off completely.
Same as the S7, same as the S8.
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Actually it does not. What's weird is I swear it did when I first got the phone but it seems like an update broke it or something because it no longer does it.
Really hope a future update brings it back because I haven't found any settings that enable it.
Anyone figure this out?
vintagerock said:
Actually it does not. What's weird is I swear it did when I first got the phone but it seems like an update broke it or something because it no longer does it.
Really hope a future update brings it back because I haven't found any settings that enable it.
Anyone figure this out?
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What I've figured out is that it works 100% on my S9+.
And my wife's S9+.
And my daughter's S9+.
And my other daughter's S9+.
You may wish to review the settings on your device again.
I hope you find the missing configuration, because I can understand the frustration when something appears to not work as it should.
Having had a number of S7 phones that featured a stuck rotation-lock due to a borked accelerometer, and "glowing" screens while turned off due to bad display drivers, I would not discount the possibility that your device could be defective, if you have turned on the appropriate feature-set and the AOD still does not turn off when the proximity sensors are covered.
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Actually, it does turn off completely. If you cover the proximity sensor for around 30 seconds, the AOD turns off completely.
Same as the S7, same as the S8.
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Nope. If I put it face down on a table or desk in a completely dark room, I can see the light from the screen reflecting off the surface. (My case lifts the screen slightly off the table.) And if I take it out of my pocket, I can see the AOD is very dim immediately after coming out, and then brightens after a split second.
afh3 said:
What I've figured out is that it works 100% on my S9+.
And my wife's S9+.
And my daughter's S9+.
And my other daughter's S9+.
You may wish to review the settings on your device again.
I hope you find the missing configuration, because I can understand the frustration when something appears to not work as it should.
Having had a number of S7 phones that featured a stuck rotation-lock due to a borked accelerometer, and "glowing" screens while turned off due to bad display drivers, I would not discount the possibility that your device could be defective, if you have turned on the appropriate feature-set and the AOD still does not turn off when the proximity sensors are covered.
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Have you checked it in a totally dark room (say, a bathroom, at night, with the shade closed and the door closed)? Because that's when it becomes clear the screen is just very dim, not off. Also, if you set manual brightness on the AOD, instead of auto, it's very obvious that it stays on even when the phone is face down.
What do you consider the "appropriate feature set," because I've looked all through the settings and there is no setting for turning the screen off when in a pocket or face down.
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Have you checked it in a totally dark room (say, a bathroom, at night, with the shade closed and the door closed)? Because that's when it becomes clear the screen is just very dim, not off. Also, if you set manual brightness on the AOD, instead of auto, it's very obvious that it stays on even when the phone is face down.
What do you consider the "appropriate feature set," because I've looked all through the settings and there is no setting for turning the screen off when in a pocket or face down.
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I think I see where at least some of the misunderstanding is now.
What you describe is expected behavior in the dark/low-light scenario.
Note that the AOD turns off (if you've enabled "Block accidental touches" in the display settings) only if the >proximity< sensor detects that the phone is, well, in proximity to something - such as when it is face-down or in a pocket.
If not in proximity to something, what can be expected is that the illumination sensor will simply adjust the AOD brightness (if in the automatic mode) in response to the ambient light it detects - bright in bright light, and dim in low or no light. Just as you've described your experience.
Again, if your "Block accidental touches" feature is on, and the AOD isn't turning off when it is in proximity to an object (in a pocket, face-down, etc.) you may have a defect.
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Have you checked it in a totally dark room (say, a bathroom, at night, with the shade closed and the door closed)? Because that's when it becomes clear the screen is just very dim, not off. Also, if you set manual brightness on the AOD, instead of auto, it's very obvious that it stays on even when the phone is face down.
What do you consider the "appropriate feature set," because I've looked all through the settings and there is no setting for turning the screen off when in a pocket or face down.
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I don't have block accidental touches on but it does turn off when it's in my pocket or faced down. It might be just your device. It always turns off for me when it should.
chickenbb said:
I don't have block accidental touches on but it does turn off when it's in my pocket or faced down. It might be just your device. It always turns off for me when it should.
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Interesting. I was always under the belief that the setting was required in order to assure AOD would turn off in those situations.
Turns out, it does work regardless of the state of that feature!
I still think that having that turned on just makes sense for those times when it is in a pocket, but you are correct in that it does not preclude the AOD turn-off feature.
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Interesting. I was always under the belief that the setting was required in order to assure AOD would turn off in those situations.
Turns out, it does work regardless of the state of that feature!
I still think that having that turned on just makes sense for those times when it is in a pocket, but you are correct in that it does not preclude the AOD turn-off feature.
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I have that setting on but it still won't turn off AOD in my pocket. I was worried my proximity sensor was defective so I tested it but it appears to be working fine.
What model/carrier do you guys have. I have the attached branded snapdragon model. Like I said before it used to work but now it doesn't. Not sure if it coincides with an update or not
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I have that setting on but it still won't turn off AOD in my pocket. I was worried my proximity sensor was defective so I tested it but it appears to be working fine.
What model/carrier do you guys have. I have the attached branded snapdragon model. Like I said before it used to work but now it doesn't. Not sure if it coincides with an update or not
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Verizon branded S9+ [ARBG] here.
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Verizon branded S9+ [ARBG] here.
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Hmm interesting.
I meant to say att branded is what I have.
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Hmm interesting.
I meant to say att branded is what I have.
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You could always factory-reset the device and see if the functionality returns.
With an SD card and a SmartSwitch backup, it's not that painful to reset the phone and get it back to (more or less) the configuration you have right now.
After a reset, I'd probably test it >before< restoring the SmartSwitch backup - just to confirm that it isn't some app that is breaking the AOD turn-off deal.
Best of luck with this.
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Thanks, but that's not it. I do have that turned on. It's not that AOD turns off but comes back on because of touches. Unlike the S7, it never turns off, even in a pocket or screen down.
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Don't know if you've figured out your issue yet but I finally figured out what was causing mine to not turn off. It was bcActions app I was using to remap bixby button.
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Don't know if you've figured out your issue yet but I finally figured out what was causing mine to not turn off. It was bcActions app I was using to remap bixby button.
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I have the exynos version. Are you sure it's the bxActions app causing it? Because I have it and the AOD still turns off for me.
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I have the exynos version. Are you sure it's the bxActions app causing it? Because I have it and the AOD still turns off for me.
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Yeah I stopped bxaactions and it instantly fixed the AOD problem. What actions do you have your button mapped to?
Can't we just enable always on display? Aren't there any hack to enable it?
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Battery will not be able to stand 1Hour at least i think
Come on you own smartwatch
Keep raising your hand every few minutes, it will stay on always then. Problem solved.
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And if it's
Battery will not be able to stand 1Hour at least i think
Come on you own smartwatch
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No i think i will go for at least one day.. See other AMOLED watch from xiaomi.. they go for 7-10 days with always on display.. And compared to that mi band 4 can go for 1 day at least
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Keep raising your hand every few minutes, it will stay on always then. Problem solved.
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You know that's not the solution.. And this function doesn't work Everytime
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You know that's not the solution.. And this function doesn't work Everytime
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You know he was kidding, right?
AOD function must have support not only from the software, but also HW. In theory, you could enable AOD on Mi Band 4, but you'd risk AMOLED burn in and most probably very high power consumption. If you really must have this feature, buy a band/watch which supports it properly and out of the box.
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Can't we just enable always on display? Aren't there any hack to enable it?
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It should be possible theoretically.
The latest firmware (1.0.6.24) has option change the display duration (Auto screen off time). But, it only let's to choose between 5 to 10 seconds. So, hopefully, the firmware update can take care of increasing the time to longer period (infinite).
A very light watch face with minimum color (black and white) theme should take care of the quick battery drain.
I think, is cool to have this option.
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It should be possible theoretically.
The latest firmware (1.0.6.24) has option change the display duration (Auto screen off time). But, it only let's to choose between 5 to 10 seconds. So, hopefully, the firmware update can take care of increasing the time to longer period (infinite).
A very light watch face with minimum color (black and white) theme should take care of the quick battery drain.
I think, is cool to have this option.
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That's what i am thinking... It's possible actually although some are not agreeing with it..
That's nice that you think it, but I'm sure you would blame Xiaomi for adding this feature if it caused persistent image retention problem, desaturated colors over time and maybe some other HW defects due to prolonged use of OLED panel.
Yes, the burn-in could be a problem as well.
May be we can come up with some solution like the moving display (like the ones in old screensavers on CRT) or the one in Glitch watchface and UI (given below).
https://geekdoing.com/threads/glitch-ui-v83.1597/
I am looking into possibly buying this phone. Does it have ambient display? I had a lg v20 for a long time and it had the 2nd screen. I like being able to see the time and if i have notifications without having to pick up the phone or turn it on. I recently had to switch to a pixel xl and it sucks! its always a blank screen unless its plugged in to charge (which makes no sense).
anyway. im trying to see if this phone has some sort of ambient display
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I am looking into possibly buying this phone. Does it have ambient display? I had a lg v20 for a long time and it had the 2nd screen. I like being able to see the time and if i have notifications without having to pick up the phone or turn it on. I recently had to switch to a pixel xl and it sucks! its always a blank screen unless its plugged in to charge (which makes no sense).
anyway. im trying to see if this phone has some sort of ambient display
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Yes it does.
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Yes it does.
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Thanks! By chance would you be able to tell me if you can feel it vibrate while in your pocket? And if, when on a call you can hear the other person well?
cnoevl21 said:
Thanks! By chance would you be able to tell me if you can feel it vibrate while in your pocket? And if, when on a call you can hear the other person well?
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The vibration on this phone is acceptable.
I have no problem feeling the phone in my jeans pocket and I also feel it if I have him on a jacket pocket.
You can hear the other person properly although if you max the volume you'll hear some crackling, especially with headphones.
Other than that it's a good phone for the price you're paying. I got mine oh amazon for 160€ and I'm very pleased!
I put an app on mine called Always on AMOLED. You can customize the look. I have it set to show date, time, and battery. The time is very large and the display shifts periodically, so no burn in. Also, if you have music playing it will give you music control buttons. Best of all, the screen doesn't wake up if you plug it in or unplug it. It does use up battery a little faster, but if you put the phone face down or in a case or in your pocket it turns off. I usually have it in an upright dock so it is charging and and I can see the time and any notifications. By the way, the dock is a V20 dock. It works perfectly with this phone.
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Yes it does.
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does yours fade in and out? when i go into the moto app it says moto display should do so, but mine does not. if i get a notification, it will show once, then phone stays blank unless i touch it.