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So how about the battery in the Lumia 920.
After the Lumia 800 failed in this area it would be great to know if the 2000mA battery is big enough for this whole Thing
Oberoth said:
So how about the battery in the Lumia 920.
After the Lumia 800 failed in this area it would be great to know if the 2000mA battery is big enough for this whole Thing
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I've been using it for half a week now and battery is phenomenal even in LTE all the time. Will last you a full day off not a day and a half with moderate use. Full day heavy use probably.
You have nothing to worry about this time. Nokia got it right.
More details here: http://forums.wpcentral.com/showthread.php?t=200158
Mine sucks right now. I'm just using it for normal email updates and a few downloads from the app store and it'll be on 40% by 4-5pm. I've turned off a lot of the background updates on the live tiles too, but it's not making a difference.
Screen on time is disappointing.
Mine has excellent battery life. 2 days on a row on my last charge.
Ppl with battery life problems, I would suggest to visit the Nokia support forum.
Important
If you disable NFC (tap+send in settings) you have a HUGE improvement in battery life.
As mentioned above, disabling NFC and background apps will greatly improve battery life. I am more than satisfied.
I leave my data connection on 2G most of the day and it seems make the phone last all day, with heavy use. If I really need the faster connection I switch it to 3G. This seems to work for me
Full day, 3G use (using on a 3G only carrier, no LTE unfortunately). Moderate-to-heavy usage, not a problem getting back home, chilling on the sofa, doing what not, and having enough battery to last until bed time. FYI my day starts around 8-9 and I head to bed around 11ish+.
I hear battery life isn't as good when NFC is on. Don't know though, I never have NFC on anyways (really don't see how useful it is atm).
Battery saving Tips
This battery saving tip has been overlooked since WP7 first generation devices. The reason why some ppl will be having huge battery drain is due to apps running in the background. So, you need to think about the apps that you actually need to run in the background. Make sure all your email accounts are on the highest interval time to be checked and/or "as the item arrives". When you select as the item arrives I believe true push is being used which if you don't receive tons of emails will save battery in the end. The other apps settings are located here start screen>settings>swipe over to applications>background tasks>and block all apps that you can that don't need to be running background tasks. I for instance only have accuWeather app running background tasks. Another thing is you need to be aware of apps power usage...i noticed that accuWeather is far better at using less power consumption than the Weather channel app. Other tips are common knowledge. Disable NFC, use WIFI when available, turn off high sensitivity if you're not needing it, use low time-out for shutting off display and use low brightness. Be efficient!!
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Lasts me about 1hr for each 10% increment. About the same i was getting with the S3. While playing music its battery life seems to last longer than leaving it on standby :S Find standby kills battery some reason, just recently turned of nokia drive background app, hopefully that makes it last longer
Battery life has been excellent for me. Mine was fully charged on Wednesday morning @ 8 AM and was at 48% when I put it on the charger Thursday @ 2 PM with moderate uses. Unexpectedly, the battery life is much better while on the LTE network than when I'm using my SIM card not registered for LTE usage. Standby drain is very very good.
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Lasts me about 1hr for each 10% increment. About the same i was getting with the S3. While playing music its battery life seems to last longer than leaving it on standby :S Find standby kills battery some reason, just recently turned of nokia drive background app, hopefully that makes it last longer
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That's because WiFi stays connected when you're streaming music, whereas WiFi disconnects when on standby. Known windows issue that should be addressed by ms soon.
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I get great battery life unless I enter into an LTE area. When I do, my phone gets VERY hot and the battery runs down in a few hours. Even if I'm not doing ANYTHING with the phone. Strange...
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I leave my data connection on 2G most of the day and it seems make the phone last all day, with heavy use. If I really need the faster connection I switch it to 3G. This seems to work for me
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How do you switch the 920 to 2g mode? I only have 3g and 4g in the options on max speed? my old lg wp let me set either 2g or 3g, huge difference in battery life on that devic.
to be honest tho so far i'm impressed easily outlasts my old phone, just tried turning off the high sensitivity on the touch to see if it makes a difference.
also run down the phone till it turned itself off last night, tried turning it on got the warning icon of low battery, did it again then it started, data connectino wouldn't work battery said 0% remaining and it lasted just under half hour with me playing mirrors edge, makes me wonder how accurate the battery % is
Battery capacity seems to have been cut in half!
When I first got the 920, at 100% the estimated battery life would say 1 day and X hours. Now (2 weeks later) when my battery is at 100%, it now says 13-14 hours of estimated life. My battery also drains much faster now than it did in the first week of owning the 920. My use of the phone has not changed over the last two weeks. I'm always in an LTE area, WiFi on and I use bluetooth from time to time. Is this an issue that other people are experiencing?
I'm trying to figure out if I need to exchange my 920. Any help or advice is much appreciated. Thanks!
i found it was using 2% battery every hour whilst connected to a data connection - but not syncing anything, all backround tasks turned off. This seems a bit mental.
So it seems that battery isn't so good :/ Too bad because i was wondering to buy this phone.
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chizzwhizz said:
Battery capacity seems to have been cut in half!
When I first got the 920, at 100% the estimated battery life would say 1 day and X hours. Now (2 weeks later) when my battery is at 100%, it now says 13-14 hours of estimated life. My battery also drains much faster now than it did in the first week of owning the 920. My use of the phone has not changed over the last two weeks. I'm always in an LTE area, WiFi on and I use bluetooth from time to time. Is this an issue that other people are experiencing?
I'm trying to figure out if I need to exchange my 920. Any help or advice is much appreciated. Thanks!
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After deep cycling the battery, I am back to the correct reading. I am now losing a little less than 1% of battery life per hour on standby!
The first week I had my 920 I was lucky if the battery was at or above 40% by 12 noon. The 920 is my 2nd phone line and I am using it mostly to learn WP8, to surf the web some and listen to a lot of podcasts, usually 6+ hours of them a day. The past 4 days the battery in the 920 is showing insane runtimes. It is currently 11:30pm and it has been off the charger since 8:00am, over 15 hours with overs 8 hours of audio podcast listening. The battery is currently reading 61%. I originally got the impression that LTE was killing the battery, but that is no longer the case.
I have a Share Plan with AT&T with 2 phones, a Galaxy Nexus (GSM model from Play Store) and a Lumia 920. I use my Nexus as my main phone line, to access GMail and Google Reader (a lot of Google Reader feeds). The Nexus has been off the charger the same period of time and is showing 41%.
For me wifi destroys my battery for some reason I get 15 hours with wi-fi on or 28 with it off
Interesting, mine will usually run for 24-30 hours before hitting 15%, including regular usage. 4G gives it a whack but generally I find similar to other phones, if low coverage it chews the battery
Reading all the doom and gloom of 4G LTE on various mobile phones, after my 1st weeks experience, I was expecting similar results going forward. But, after 2 weeks of use, the battery falls in line with the results you mention. And, with that I am not complaining.
same situation here.
It looks like the phone needs some days to warm up and get long lasting.
Also I see that wp8 is heavly optimized for background task in order to not consume a lot of battery eg: my phone lasts more than 2 days with light usage.
I listen to podcast for many hours and it doesnt affect the battery that much, in fact I'm surprised by it because I know audio playing takes a load on the cpu.
Mine.. overnight without charge or using the phone it drained from 100% down to 35%. BS
Two words: Background tasks.
Make sure you don't have unnecessary background tasks running. I have less than 5 and my battery runs more than 2 days easily.
How do you kill or monitor background tasks?
I had really good battery time of 19 hours the first day of installing the new firmware, then I enabled bluetooth again and it drains like crazy. its hit or miss but people seem to think that whatsapp drains battery. I personally would like to disable LTE (its really slow in my area) and just keep bluetooth that seems to give me 12+ hrs of battery.
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How do you kill or monitor background tasks?
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You can block background tasks for 3rd party apps in Settings->Applications tab->Background tasks. There is no way to monitor these tasks because WP OS doesn't offer any such capability.
Unfortunately there is no easy way to block 1st party apps and if they are misbehaving (like sync something over and over), there is nothing you can do about it.
Turn on Battery Saver can also effectively kill all background tasks. But that's draconian. I still would like my smartphone do something in the background for me.
Don't forget, the biggest battery drain factor could be your cell phone signal. If you keep the phone in a fringe area, the cell radio will drain your battery very quickly while try to maintain communications with cell towers. This is outside the OS and you can't do anything about it.
I had a weird battery drain the day after the last upgrade. No apps running in the background BAR the movie that i had paused.. I lost 80% without using the phone in a 6 hour period (post charging). After a reboot it seems ok. Perhaps i should pause another movie to see if it happens again....
I must say that I have mine 2 days and the battery drains too fast... I dont know what to do .. Maybe because its new ? Some one can help me maybe ?
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I must say that I have mine 2 days and the battery drains too fast... I dont know what to do .. Maybe because its new ? Some one can help me maybe ?
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don't judge a phone's battery life until a week later.
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don't judge a phone's battery life until a week later.
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in wp8 is 2 weeks later
My battery is pretty inconsistent. MOST of the time it's awesome, and will last like 20-25 hours without needing to charge, but that just makes it especially jarring when every now and then I go to check my phone at 4 in the afternoon and it's at critical, and I have no idea what causes it.
Plus when it does die I have to put it on the charger for like 2 hours before it will let me turn it on.
I found interesting point in the battery life today, if the screen is off, the battery drain is in the range of 3-4% which is good, however, if the screen goes on the battery drops like 15% in just 25 minutes. After thinking I tried to set the screen sensitivity to normal and it solved my problem. I kept the screen on for more than 45 minutes and the battery went down almost 6% only which is good. I still have to test more to give a concrete evidence.
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I usually run a battery discharge app Saturday night. Then a full recharge with the phone off. That usually gives me dependable battery life of about 12 hours a day for the entire week. If I forget and not run the discharger I notice it midways into the week when I only get about 8 hours out of it.
AT&T lumia920:
after updating my phone to the 1314 update, my battery life got worse.
I went from 14 hours per day to only 8 hours.
thanks nokia -_-
note: I was not experiencing any connectivity issues on my phone.
let's see how many people here actually have NFC on and Auto-Brightness on... lol
I used the sleep app last night after charging to 100%, and then I fell asleep with it on.
I woke up to find the sounds still going, and when I checked my phone worried that I killed the charge, I found it still had 92% left. That's impressive.
Hello all ,
I was about to buy an Exynos model and read somewhere on here that there was an update to fix battery life. Is this true and how much has it improved ?
Thanks
Personally I see much better battery life after the April security update. SOT gets about 6 hours of normal use.
i still haven't received the latest update, but my battery life is great
i get 8hrs of SOT
ARD 4 is latest firmware ?
From wich country ?
Tnx.
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Personally I see much better battery life after the April security update. SOT gets about 6 hours of normal use.
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Trimis de pe al meu ASUS_P00I folosind Tapatalk
Never had a problem with battery life
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ARD 4 is latest firmware ?
From wich country ?
Tnx.
Trimis de pe al meu ASUS_P00I folosind Tapatalk
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Latest security patch, i.e. 1st April 2018
Reading Anandtech article, exynos does not seem to be a good choice unfortunately. I have read all about it after my devices was shipped today, might return it.
I will tell u the truth, i have snapdragon and 5 hrs of SOT , since 1 month so the battery life is almost same
5-6h SOT with 2 days of usage between each charge. But depends heaviliy on your usage.
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5-6h SOT with 2 days of usage between each charge. But depends heaviliy on your usage.
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Thanks, this is not bad at all for an exynos. This is really odd as some users claim they get much less like 3 hours SOT and 16 hours standby. Are you on BER5 btw.? Thanks
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Thanks, this is not bad at all for an exynos. This is really odd as some users claim they get much less like 3 hours SOT and 16 hours standby. Are you on BER5 btw.? Thanks
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Yes, i am. I also changed some settings of the device and disabled a lot of apps to save some power, but im not using a power saving mode. Standby drain is still a bit high though with 3-4% in 7h.
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Yes, i am. I also changed some settings of the device and disabled a lot of apps to save some power, but im not using a power saving mode. Standby drain is still a bit high though with 3-4% in 7h.
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thx, 0.5% per hour on android is not that high I guess, good to know.
samitro said:
thx, 0.5% per hour on android is not that high I guess, good to know.
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I'd like to know if you guys are using Facebook and Messenger apps. Tried it on a brand new unit without logging it in and the standby drain is less than 0.5% an hour. Installed those two because I actually need the Messenger (can't seem to greenify Facebook) and my standby drain is like 2% per hour.
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I'd like to know if you guys are using Facebook and Messenger apps. Tried it on a brand new unit without logging it in and the standby drain is less than 0.5% an hour. Installed those two because I actually need the Messenger (can't seem to greenify Facebook) and my standby drain is like 2% per hour.
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Nope, i do not use Facebook at all, only Whatsapp and Telegram. Facebook is known to be a battery killer. But i think there are official lite apps which significally reduce the power drain.
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Nope, i do not use Facebook at all, only Whatsapp and Telegram. Facebook is known to be a battery killer. But i think there are official lite apps which significally reduce the power drain.
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figured as much. I just envy how you can use those two because your contacts aren't dependent on Messenger.
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Reading Anandtech article, exynos does not seem to be a good choice unfortunately. I have read all about it after my devices was shipped today, might return it.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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figured as much. I just envy how you can use those two because your contacts aren't dependent on Messenger.
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With Messenger you mean the Facebook Messenger? Well no facebook, no friends at facebook to chat with .
I just dont like this company at all. The idea behind it is really cool, keeping people connected. But what they do with your data isnt. Not a tiny bit.
And if the trend goes on, WhatsApp will also be uninstalled someday. But this would be hard, since nearly no one uses an alternative messenger.
Whatsapp does the job for me and its much easier on the battery.
But back to the topic: Have you tried this Lite app?
Should be less stressfull for your battery.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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Sounds a lot like my usage, also the settings you have done. Did you also disable 4G active while on Wifi? Its hidden in the developer settings.
Otherwise im currently ~32,5h off the charger with 42% left. My screen usage is at 2h 22min, so maybe 4,5h overall in this run. But its not too bad cause of the overall runtime, as standby also drains the battery.
If im pushing the battery more without trying to achieve 2 days i have no problem getting to 6h of SOT.
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Recharging the G965F(exynos dual sim) every evening at 7,8 PM after unplugging in the morning at 6,7 AM.
AOD , gallery syncing, nearby device scanning, cloud based services, find my mobile service, NFC off. Wifi power saving on, 5 Sammy blaotwares disabled , no game playing , most appkications are in sleeping mode, no battery hogging app and I'm just a light to moderate user with 90 % wifi connection.
4 to 5 hours sot and 13,14 or maximum 15 hours it lasts. Experienced other top of the line phones with better battery life.
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That sounds very similar to another poster here who is also having issues with dual sim battery drain. He also made the same comment about having better battery life with other "top of the line" phones. Interestingly, I thought you posted a screenshot of 8+ hours SOT with the exynos recently (and 15+ hours SOT with the snapdragon). So I suppose those figures weren't a good reflection of your "average" SOT? As now you're mentioning only half that SOT, despite quite a few tweaks too.
Question - it sounds like you have around 9-10 hours where you're not actively using the phone during a typical discharge cycle. Do you have a sense of what your hourly standby drain is (I asked the same question of the other person having issues and I think he mentioned about 1% or less drain per hour)? A good way of observing it is leaving the phone uncharged overnight. I'm just curious as to whether your relatively poor battery life is mainly due to excessive standby drain or excessive drain despite only doing light-moderate tasks. I ask this because, in my experience (and also with people like Galaxo60) and demonstrated in numerous battery drain video tests, heavy use (eg. GPS navigation with high accuracy) tends to drain the battery by around 10-15% per hour and very heavy use (complex games, video calling) tends to drain the battery by 15-20% per hour.
Assuming a standby drain of 1% per hour (which is on the high side with AOD disabled and a good wifi connection), you can see that even if you played a complex game for 2 hours (40%), then an hour later (1%) you did a video call for an hour (20%), then an hour later (1%) you spent 2 hours navigating Maps with GPS on high accuracy (30%), and then you went to sleep for 6 hours (6%), your battery would be down to about 2% over a total of 13 hours on battery with 5 hours SOT. I'm probably giving the high side of the estimated battery drain in each task too. And this should be without any significant tweaking (based on my experience, and unless those video tests forget to mention tweaking etc). It sounds like you don't do any of these heavy or very heavy tasks, and therefore your SOT should be more like 6-7 hours over 20 hours or so (just a rough guess to make the point).
So assuming your hourly standby drain is also around 1%, then the only thing I can think of is an app that you're using or a task that you're doing (or some specific combination of apps/tasks that exynos doesn't like?) that is draining the battery more than it should. Or throwing in a wild speculation, somehow there's a built-in kernel backdoor that activates while your screen is on and is secretly doing something that drains your battery more hehe (and of course doesn't show up in any battery stats).
I know the occasional poster has also mentioned having only 1-3 hours SOT, so you're not having the worst reported SOT I suppose. It would be interesting to know what the hourly standby drain for those people etc is too.
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ssj100 said:
That sounds very similar to another poster here who is also having issues with dual sim battery drain. He also made the same comment about having better battery life with other "top of the line" phones. Interestingly, I thought you posted a screenshot of 8+ hours SOT with the exynos recently (and 15+ hours SOT with the snapdragon). So I suppose those figures weren't a good reflection of your "average" SOT? As now you're mentioning only half that SOT, despite quite a few tweaks too.
Question - it sounds like you have around 9-10 hours where you're not actively using the phone during a typical discharge cycle. Do you have a sense of what your hourly standby drain is (I asked the same question of the other person having issues and I think he mentioned about 1% or less drain per hour)? A good way of observing it is leaving the phone uncharged overnight. I'm just curious as to whether your relatively poor battery life is mainly due to excessive standby drain or excessive drain despite only doing light-moderate tasks. I ask this because, in my experience (and also with people like Galaxo60) and demonstrated in numerous battery drain video tests, heavy use (eg. GPS navigation with high accuracy) tends to drain the battery by around 10-15% per hour and very heavy use (complex games, video calling) tends to drain the battery by 15-20% per hour.
Assuming a standby drain of 1% per hour (which is on the high side with AOD disabled and a good wifi connection), you can see that even if you played a complex game for 2 hours (40%), then an hour later (1%) you did a video call for an hour (20%), then an hour later (1%) you spent 2 hours navigating Maps with GPS on high accuracy (30%), and then you went to sleep for 6 hours (6%), your battery would be down to about 2% over a total of 13 hours on battery with 5 hours SOT. I'm probably giving the high side of the estimated battery drain in each task too. And this should be without any significant tweaking (based on my experience, and unless those video tests forget to mention tweaking etc). It sounds like you don't do any of these heavy or very heavy tasks, and therefore your SOT should be more like 6-7 hours over 20 hours or so (just a rough guess to make the point).
So assuming your hourly standby drain is also around 1%, then the only thing I can think of is an app that you're using or a task that you're doing (or some specific combination of apps/tasks that exynos doesn't like?) that is draining the battery more than it should. Or throwing in a wild speculation, somehow there's a built-in kernel backdoor that activates while your screen is on and is secretly doing something that drains your battery more hehe (and of course doesn't show up in any battery stats).
I know the occasional poster has also mentioned having only 1-3 hours SOT, so you're not having the worst reported SOT I suppose. It would be interesting to know what the hourly standby drain for those people etc is too.
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Where have you seen me posting 8+ hours with the exynos? It was of 6 hours and 50 minutes in the "screen on time" thread achieved when additional battery saving steps like bk package disabler disabling huge chunk of services and apps and keeping location in power saving mode. (bk no more working as it's removed from playstore and I went for factory reset after BRE5 update)
4 to 5 is the average sot with 13, 14 hours with few battery saving steps. No wakelocks no battery hogging applications.
It's amazing how much we actually use our phones in a given day, especially when we watch "videos"! Rate this thread to express how many hours of screen-on time you can get on the Google Pixel 4 before depleting the battery.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Getting an Average of 4.5-5.5 SOT.
Same as my SD855 S10
3 hours SOT here. 12 hour batter. Buyers beware.
I read a review saying if it didn't have such poor battery life it would be one of the best phones, though it is that bad it really holds the phone back.
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Same as Pixel 3 and pretty much any other my phone in last few years - about 4h-5h of SOT every charge. Nothing drastic.
Usage pattern per day:
1. ~2h spotify BT stream (in car and to sony wh1000xm3);
2. Never on wifi;
3. Location/BT always ON;
4. 30-60min of youtube;
5. Whatsapp, spotify, youtube, waze, chrome.
Better battery than my S8. Around 4h-5h of SOT along with 26hrs of standby time on first charge. I am happy with the standby drain which was pretty bad with S8.
Usage pattern:
Motion sense off.
Tap to wake/Lift to wake on
Location always on.
Bluetooth for 3-4hours with Spotify streaming.
Whatsapp, Youtube, Facebook, Chrome all in the mix a bit.
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Better battery than my S8. Around 4h-5h of SOT along with 26hrs of standby time on first charge. I am happy with the standby drain which was pretty bad with S8.
Usage pattern:
Motion sense off.
Tap to wake/Lift to wake on
Location always on.
Bluetooth for 3-4hours with Spotify streaming.
Whatsapp, Youtube, Facebook, Chrome all in the mix a bit.
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yeaaaah...these battery horror stories on pixel 4/4xl are most definatelly overexaggerated. It always depends on the usage, but at least from my expierence and how I use phones almost every phone in last 3-4y gives me my 4-5h of sot..either its xiaomi 9t pro, oneplus 3-5, iphone x, xs max, pixel 2-3, galaxy s9+, its always the same..only phone I have gotten out more is my test phone Iphone 11 Pro .. that phone battery wise is simply amazing! probably the most I have gotten out of phone measuring one week+ of usage with 5-6 full charges, but I couldnt make it my daily driver since I find IOS just too boring + i really disliked the weight of iphone 11 pro in terms how it feels in hand (top part is disproportionally heavy) and limited in few key areas like quickly sharing stuff and so on..just not for me..IOS is ok for me only on tablets (ipad pro 11")
I started with Nexus 4, 5, 6P, Pixel, Pixel 2, Pixel 3 and now Pixel 4. Each iteration of phone provided improved battery life due to better software and better hardware. I was also worried about the battery life of Pixel 4 after reading so many articles about having a smaller battery. I am telling you this. All these articles were based on speculations, none were based on actual usages. I've never complaint about short SOT but always wished that standby drain can be controlled better and I'll explain. If you run a test of SOT when the battery is fully charged, you may get let's say 5 hours out of it but that is not meaningful. On real life usage you'll carry the phone with you 10 to 14 hours a day. While SOT usage varies between person to person, most of the battery were drained while the screen is off. Let's do a simple math here. If you can get 5 hours of SOT out of 100%, that means your phone consumes 20% per hour. On average my Pixel 3 was draining about 2% to 3% an hour with the screen off. In 10 hours I am down to about 75% which would provide 3 to 4 hours of screen time. With the Pixel 4, the standby drain is much better controlled, a big step over improvements over previous generations. I figure the standby drain is about 1% to 2%. In 10 hours I'm down to 85%. Even if the SOT is identical to Pixel 3, I will get at least half an hour more screen on time during real life usage.
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I started with Nexus 4, 5, 6P, Pixel, Pixel 2, Pixel 3 and now Pixel 4. Each iteration of phone provided improved battery life due to better software and better hardware. I was also worried about the battery life of Pixel 4 after reading so many articles about having a smaller battery. I am telling you this. All these articles were based on speculations, none were based on actual usages. I've never complaint about short SOT but always wished that standby drain can be controlled better and I'll explain. If you run a test of SOT when the battery is fully charged, you may get let's say 5 hours out of it but that is not meaningful. On real life usage you'll carry the phone with you 10 to 14 hours a day. While SOT usage varies between person to person, most of the battery were drained while the screen is off. Let's do a simple math here. If you can get 5 hours of SOT out of 100%, that means your phone consumes 20% per hour. On average my Pixel 3 was draining about 2% to 3% an hour with the screen off. In 10 hours I am down to about 75% which would provide 3 to 4 hours of screen time. With the Pixel 4, the standby drain is much better controlled, a big step over improvements over previous generations. I figure the standby drain is about 1% to 2%. In 10 hours I'm down to 85%. Even if the SOT is identical to Pixel 3, I will get at least half an hour more screen on time during real life usage.
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Totally agree with your theory on standby drain. I carry two phones, one for personal use and one for work (iPhone). I'm always confident at leaving iPhone unplugged overnight but not for the Pixel. It barely drains 1% on the iPhone overnight. I wish one day we could see this on Android...
btw Pixel drains 10% to 20% overnight depending on its mood
Strange, mine drains 1-2% overnight
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Totally agree with your theory on standby drain. I carry two phones, one for personal use and one for work (iPhone). I'm always confident at leaving iPhone unplugged overnight but not for the Pixel. It barely drains 1% on the iPhone overnight. I wish one day we could see this on Android...
btw Pixel drains 10% to 20% overnight depending on its mood
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the drain is adaptive battery, Bluetooth and wifi scanning. turn those off, once you do, your Google Play services battery usage will be a lot lower.
jalado said:
the drain is adaptive battery, Bluetooth and wifi scanning. turn those off, once you do, your Google Play services battery usage will be a lot lower.
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Both BT and WIFI scanning are off. But adaptive battery is on. I thought it's meant to reduce the battery usage instead of drain the battery?
cswithxda said:
Both BT and WIFI scanning are off. But adaptive battery is on. I thought it's meant to reduce the battery usage instead of drain the battery?
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turn it off and tell me how much better your battery is tomorrow. and if you want performance the way the pixel 4 and 3 were supposed to be, turn off digital wellbeing. it's better to delete it through adb, but just turn off usage access to try, restart your phone and be amazed.
5h SOT over 15h
White theme, forced 90hz, adaptive brightness (34%-50%)
dudaka said:
Strange, mine drains 1-2% overnight
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how?
Airplane mode
Pixel 4 (smaller one) battery life
6h SOT over 16h
5% drain over 9h30m standby (phone placed with display down)
White theme, smooth display (force 90hz off), adaptive brightness (34%-50%)
Motion Sense off, AOD off, lift to check off, assistant voice match off, now playing on
jalado said:
the drain is adaptive battery, Bluetooth and wifi scanning. turn those off, once you do, your Google Play services battery usage will be a lot lower.
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All disabled yet I'm experiencing no difference in battery life. Same garbage 4 hour SoT.
backslashV said:
All disabled yet I'm experiencing no difference in battery life. Same garbage 4 hour SoT.
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everybody uses their phones differently brotha. you should show a screenshot of your battery stats. if you have bad reception, there's no cure for that.
Mine drains 1-2% over night in a 8 hour period
I have had the Pixel 6 for a week now and I'm very disappointed. My biggest disappointment is by far the battery life. I can barely get through an 8 hour work day before it dies (Note: this is with zero WiFi use). After 8hrs I'm typically at 10-20% battery or dead. The mobile network standby is slaughtering my battery life. It uses a consistent 25-35% of it everyday. I also seem to have a lot of weird bugs.
-I get occasional system UI crashes
-randomly I'll lose signal where I always have signal and have to turn it off and back on or reboot
-auto rotate I have to frequently shake my phone for it to work
-camera quality seems terrible. My photos are almost always blurry. My OnePlus 7 Pro takes much better pics.
Update: The 8hrs is total battery life not SOT. My SOT is like 3-4hrs average sometimes worse. My phone use also stays in a 6ft area all day. So I'm not like in and out of service. I also make no calls during the day.
Update 2: I've had 5G disabled all day and I've had 3.5hrs SOT and have 45% battery left and it's the end of my work day. I'm happy with that number. Still having weird OS issues like system UI crashes, Spotify pausing randomly and it not working with the Google assistant. So I think I still need to do a factory reset unfortunately.
I am returning it also tomorrow.
I already did factory reset without any result.
Mobile network standby is killing the battery.
30% day and 60% overnight.
I tried everything without success.
Fingerprint Scanner also is terrible.
Bump.
I had big hopes for this phone.
Try clearing system cache.
Try a network reset.
Try safe mode to rule out 3rd party apps.
Try turning off any power management.
Use factory reset for; you did a major firmware update, for malware, damage to hidden users settings by a 3rd party app.
Otherwise the issues are likely to reoccur.
Try to find the root cause(s). Cloud apps can use a lot of power day and night. Trash apps like WhatsApp, FB, etc waste power and abuse privacy.
Crazygrouzin said:
I am returning it also tomorrow.
I already did factory reset without any result.
Mobile network standby is killing the battery.
30% day and 60% overnight.
I tried everything without success.
Fingerprint Scanner also is terrible.
Bump.
I had big hopes for this phone.
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Damn, what carrier did you buy it from? I'm also disappointed in the performance of the finger print scanner. I was expecting that though and it works if you hold it. So that's not like a deal breaker but all the reviews I watched before purchasing were saying great things about the battery life. Google even advertises it as a 24hr battery life. Which I don't expect but I need to at least get to when I go to bed without charging.
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Damn, what carrier did you buy it from? I'm also disappointed in the performance of the finger print scanner. I was expecting that though and it works if you hold it. So that's not like a deal breaker but all the reviews I watched before purchasing were saying great things about the battery life. Google even advertises it as a 24hr battery life. Which I don't expect but I need to at least get to when I go to bed without charging.
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From Media Markt.
I am using o2 Deutschland.
Tried different carrier also.
Tried esim and physical card also.
Tried every combo on network preferences.
Mobile standby mode is not dropping below 25%.
Crazygrouzin said:
From Media Markt.
I am using o2 Deutschland.
Tried different carrier also.
Tried esim and physical card also.
Tried every combo on network preferences.
Mobile standby mode is not dropping below 25%.
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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I installed the update.
I am using 4g.
leegreg81 said:
Have you installed the latest feature updates?
Do you use 5G and if not have you set your phone to use 4G instead?
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I'm using 5G and will try doing that next. I don't really need the 5G speeds but I like seeing the icon lol.
Just got another system UI crash
Disabling 5G seems to have actually made my battery life worse. My phone is at 12% after only 8hrs of use..... Usually it's at like 20% after 8hrs.
So on WiFi my battery is amazing. In the past 3hrs with high brightness and over and hour of video and the rest on apps it's only gone down 6% So if the network standby issue can be fixed my battery life would be great.
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So on WiFi my battery is amazing. In the past 3hrs with high brightness and over and hour of video and the rest on apps it's only gone down 6% So if the network standby issue can be fixed my battery life would be great.
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On safe boot.
Well this is not causing other app.
Hi guys! Having great battery life, Yesterday did 5.15hrs with still 33% normal usage wifi and 4g.
KillerDroid96 said:
Disabling 5G seems to have actually made my battery life worse. My phone is at 12% after only 8hrs of use..... Usually it's at like 20% after 8hrs.
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Is it a joke ? Have 8hr SOT and crying ?!
Don't read too much into the two-hour "battery usage" percentages. They don't have any relationship to how much total energy was used - they only show the relationship to other tasks running during that two hour period.
For example, we can assume that the "Mobile Network Standby" power usage is pretty consistent if you remain in the same physical location and make the same amount of cell phone calls/texts. However the bi-hourly use % will be wildly different depending on how the phone was being used. For example, you are showing 66% Mobile Network Standby when the phone is sitting idle and not being used. That is to be expected because the phone was literally not used at all so there are very few tasks using energy during that period of time. If you compare another time when the phone was being used, the Mobile Network Standby might only account for 22% of battery use during a 2 hour period. The actual energy used for Mobile Network Standby was the same in both cases, but the % changes depending on what other tasks were using energy. It doesn't mean that it used three times the energy when it shows 66% vs when it shows 22%.
You can see this same type of battery usage detail for the last 24 hours by clicking the drop down menu "System usage for past 24 hours" on the initial battery usage screen. This will show a more accurate accounting of how much actual power each app and system process used in the last 24 hours. Unfortunately it is only for 24 hours and not since the last full charge, so it can still be a skewed number because it still doesn't show how much battery power was used, but only what % of total battery use each item accounted for. In other words, you could charge and totally drain the phone 3 times in a day, and the percentages would still look relatively the same vs someone that didn't charge at all during the day.
I suspect you will see your Mobile Network Standby number run about 20-30% when you look at this number.
Plus, your first set of battery use images show the phone using about 55% during an 8 hour period. The second set of images show the phone using about 75% over a 12 hour period. Of course we don't really know what type of use you really had during those times, but that isn't terrible. That shows the phone should last about 16 hours based on your usage.
You are also showing about a 10% decrease in battery life when the phone is setting idle for 8 hours. Honestly this is about normal battery life and you shouldn't complain about it. These phone are going to use a little more than 1% total battery power per hour when they are sitting idle and on cellular (not wifi only). If you are seeing 2-3% battery use per hour while idle, then you should be more concerned.
I have 11h40 SOT with the Pixel 6 and it is more than enough for me.
I loose 8.2%/h with the screen on and 2.7% with the screen off
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Plus, your first set of battery use images show the phone using about 55% during an 8 hour period. The second set of images show the phone using about 75% over a 12 hour period. Of course we don't really know what type of use you really had during those times, but that isn't terrible. That shows the phone should last about 16 hours based on your usage.
You are also showing about a 10% decrease in battery life when the phone is setting idle for 8 hours. Honestly this is about normal battery life and you shouldn't complain about it. These phone are going to use a little more than 1% total battery power per hour when they are sitting idle and on cellular (not wifi only). If you are seeing 2-3% battery use per hour while idle, then you should be more concerned.
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This is from 93%.
I am taking in best case 4 hours sot.
All the other battery is drained by mobile standby.
I am loosing sometimes 4% with screen of and wifi turned on, when my old redmi note 10 pro loses 0%
I guess i get faulty phone.
But i am done with with pixels.