Hi, I was wondering if there was any way to port samsung's multistar to the Xperia 1 IV so that users can use more then 2 apps at once. Or maybe port nubia red magics implementation of it. Flagships from 2022 come with 12+gb of ram, why not utilize it to its maximum potential? (A Samsung device with 8gb of ram can have 5 different apps running in the foreground at once with multistar, surely we can do more with 12gb of ram).
because, sadly, most apps are not done in a way that it really can be used as multitasking on a desktop. Have samsung tablet and while dex seems like am interesting thing it really isn't a desktop experience. Same goes for sony 2 apps implementation, whole it can be handy for some copy/paste or similar situations I find myself most comfortable while simply switching between the apps as needed.
On a desktop you can scroll through the content in the window which is in the background so you can leave just a portion visible and work. On android using touchscreen only that is not possible so I have just a smaller working area and clicking to bring window in front or swiping to another app is the same thing.
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because, sadly, most apps are not done in a way that it really can be used as multitasking on a desktop. Have samsung tablet and while dex seems like am interesting thing it really isn't a desktop experience. Same goes for sony 2 apps implementation, whole it can be handy for some copy/paste or similar situations I find myself most comfortable while simply switching between the apps as needed.
On a desktop you can scroll through the content in the window which is in the background so you can leave just a portion visible and work. On android using touchscreen only that is not possible so I have just a smaller working area and clicking to bring window in front or swiping to another app is the same thing.
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Thanks for the reply! for sure, most apps aren't optimized for it, however it seems like for the most part it works just fine with multistar (though I'm not sure how Samsung managed to pull it off)
well, you can use 21:9 multiwindow and then put 3rd app as popup on top. That's more than 2 then.
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Ok this may be silly, but just wondered if there would be any interest in this idea I had earlier. What I love about Sense is that it's like each tab has almost moved past being a widget and has almost program like functionality, it seems to me this is really unique on a mobile device.
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So I was thinking, what if it was possible to have extra tabs, in which ongoing programs could run, in something like a window. So for example, slide right one from a Facebook tab immediately into TCPMP, or continue one further into the File Explorer app? Why not extend the Sense UI?
Other thoughts:
1. I noticed that altering the tabs in sense causes a restart. I don't know if there is any way that this could be worked around, but otherwise I guess it's not possible to open up a whole new tab for each program. Perhaps there could be several open in which programs appear as they are run, with a customisable preference for the apps which appear on each tab/ a priority list?
2. maybe it would be possible to have something like a task switcher instead, I was thinking about something like the fantastic iManager, but where the app was fully functional in the tab, then could be switched with a nice simple gesture? This could skirt around the problem of new/blank tabs, and would be pretty cool!
3. Maybe this is nuts, as after all a quick tap on the home button will bring us straight back to Sense, but one less press is never bad right? And also the idea of a unified seamless UI is perfect for mobile in my opinion- I get frustrated by the jumping in and out of apps which Andoid and iOS require. CHT and Sense is exactly what is keeping me on WM
I can't code, but just thought I'd open the idea up to your opinions. Maybe someone who can wants this enough to do it?
The Note is my first Android phone coming from iPhone and so far I'm loving the phone and loving Android. It's obviously much much more customizable in a lot of ways (theming, widgets, settings, etc), and I find that it loads most applications much faster and does things quite a bit faster than I'm used to on my iphone 4.
One thing I'm surprised about, and maybe I'm not looking in the right places or I have it all wrong, is that there aren't many _low level_ tweaks available? It's mostly just widgets and themes, but nothing really available that can change the core behavior of your phone as you can with tweaks on a jailbroken iPhone?
For example, two things I've looked for so far that seemed like no-brainer easy peasy things.... music controls for the notification bar (or perhaps music controls that are accessed by overriding a capacitive button, such as holding down the settings button), and a user agent faker for the default browser. Yes I know there are other browsers available, but that's not the point (I tried Dolphin browser HD and did not like it.. it was slower and less responsive than the stock browser).
Those two examples may have their own workarounds (I know notification music controls are coming in ICS, and about:useragent will temporarily change the user agent), but I'm really getting at a larger question here. Other examples of "low level tweaks" from iphone that I kind of liked -- if you are viewing a text window above an open keyboard (ie gtalk, sms) and scroll down within the text window, it moves the keyboard out of the way. This was really natural for me, and just a simple download from Cydia. Another example -- swiping up from the bottom of the phone opening the multitasking bar -- again, really natural and awesome... a better fit for iphone for sure, but again, I'm not necessarily looking for those _exact_ tweaks, just offering some examples of what *types* of tweaks I'm referring to as "low level tweaks". Based on that, is there somewhere I can look to find these *types* of tweaks?
Unless I'm mistaken, it seems that to get these low level tweaks, you need a custom ROM? And then I guess you either need to learn how to build your own custom ROM, or hope that a dev will bake *all* of YOUR favorite tweaks into the _same_ ROM. Is that assessment about right when talking about low level tweaks? Or maybe there are other ways to add these tweaks, such as using adb to push them over? If so, where might I actually locate tweaks like this -- is there a repository / database / market of them somewhere?
FWIW I am rooted and OC'd using Da G's kernel (thanks Da G!). I've never dealt with custom ROMs on android so I'm partially speculating based on what I've heard about them and the lack of low level stuff on the market.
i think your comparing apples to oranges.
Apple keeps it simple and navigation is seamless IF YOU USE the device the way THEY INTENDED. step outside of that little box and they won't even support you .. i.e. jailbreak - after jailbreaking you can screw your phone up with all kind of cracked apps and all that junk.
As far as the keyboard moving out of the way, i don't think their are a great deal of ppl who care too much about that.... i think android compensates quite well in other areas.
having owned both platforms i would say it like this:
Apple holds software to a higher regard than hardware. after all, if you can't use your phone because it force-closes every 2 seconds then what's the point.
If you are like me and you like to "think outside the box" a little bit, then there are more possibilities with android... seems like eventually android drives you to learn more about your phone and how stuff works. i call it "the phone for adults!" lol
As far as the keyboard is concerned, you just need to download a different one. Go Keyboard, for example, has a button you can press to hide the keyboard whenever you want.
There's always an app/widget/setting in Android that will let you accomplish almost anything you want. That's the beauty of the platform.
Hitting the back button while in a text field will hide the keyboard, and allow you to scroll in the text box.
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I'm not sure about low level tweaks but you could try something other than the default TW launcher and keyboard to achieve some of the gesture based control you mention. For example, Swiftkey X has gestures to hide the keyboard by swiping down and ADWlauncher allows you to program the swipe up function to various things.
Android is a platform built on top of a Linux kernel. If rooted, anything you can do with Linux (e.g. everything), you can do with Android.
After testing android-x86 I'm convinced this OS could have a lot of potential on desktops..........if it were more desktop-friendly.
I been thinking this a lot and I'm guessing it shouldn't be that difficult, like at the very bottom a lot could be done with a custom launcher that gave easy access by mouse to functions that depend on gestures like the config section in the status bar. Adding right-click shouldn't be hard either, though building an API to support right click on apps is a step up.
I think the most difficult part would be running apps as windows instead of full screen. Something can be done with xposedframework and modules like flying android. One option would be to add the side-by-side of touchwiz, or even an array mode like 4 apps on the same screen at the same time. Even with a 15" laptop you get more space (actual space, not resolution) than with four 4.5" phone screens put together.
A lot of apps specially those made for tablets could be used with a mouse and keyboard without too much problem (eg: evernote, es explorer, gmail) but other would probably need to be at least tweaked, but eventually with a userbase we might get devs to build actual custom apps. I imagine devs could also use the existing design from the windows/mac versions of their apps, like in the case of evernote for example, instead of having to rethink the entire app's layout.
Anyway, opinions?
So here is the idea, a X-Cross Media Bar (XMB) style interface launcher that can be used on android devices, phones or tablets, but I plan on using it on my N7 since I use a Bluetooth keyboard I use for remote desktop and chrome and a pc xbox controller for games from time to time I have been trying to figure out how to make a decent android home screen that interacts like the XMB controls wise but have come up short.
I have found quite a few threads and other pages for stuff like this that has moved nowhere in the past and was hoping you guys might be able to get something in some sort of solution to my desire for a clean interactive interface. The closest thing i have, thanks to one of my friends who first came up with the idea but I have obsessively been trying to find a way to perfect, is using Nova launcher with folders set to tap to open a set app and swipe up to open the folder and a custom icon based off a PS3 theme pack I took the images from all arranged in an XMB style (picture linked) with the Wave Life Wallpaper to give it that PSP/PS3 look.
Basically all I want is an interface that interacts like the XMB, can be controlled either with directional buttons or by swiping across the screen (or tapping the icon of what you want if possible). But the big kicker here is that it has to support each column set acting as a customizable folder, like in Nova, and a standard app drawer where you can see all your apps. I don't even care if this requires xposed, a different launcher, and widgets, I want it and have done everything short of trying to code it myself. (probably not a good idea, I'm a network guy, not a good programmer)
All the pages I have come across in search of the pot of gold:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104989
http://home.gna.org/gp2xmb/
https://code.google.com/p/xpmb/
http://boards.dingoonity.org/jxd-devices/xmb-launcher-for-android-5891/
The second to last one was a launcher somebody made, and believe it or not runs on 5.0.2, but has some issues and does not really let you change anything. The last Link is an actually functional one but does not allow for much customization.
What I am thinking of is more of a launcher that allows you to create columns for certain things and select which apps fill them like a folder does, allows you to have whatever wallpaper (static, scrolling, live) and has customization options. If somebody out there can program this and get it working I would pay for it. It just seems like such a usable interface for when using a controller, keyboard, or even on a touchscreen as a way different way to have everything organised. Although a standard app drawer would still be nice to avoid having every app in a column and just the ones you frequently use (I basically want an XMB in place of multiple desktops on the home screen)
Just let me know if anybody can help me figure this out.
Hi there! I noticed that Sony Xperia 1 III lacks some very common apps that I would like to have, such as:
1. Photo Editor (Google sucks!)
2. File Explorer or File Manager (Google sucks!)
2. Voice recorder
3. Memo or Notepad
Maybe a Photo Gallery different from the one that came with and was taken over by...Google!
My latest phone was a Samsung and I was very happy with their stock apps. Also, I had the Sony Xperia 1 and it had great stock apps, as well.
If you could please dump the .apk of previous Sony versions of those apps above that would work with 1 III or if you could recommend me the best from Google Play, I would really appreciate it.
Many thanks!!!
For photo gallery search for sony album app in apk mirror. This is great gallery, I installed it and it works perfectly fine.
The only thing is in latest version sony broke / removed possibility to rotate picture.
And can't edit videos. I installed the latest version of sony album, sony photo editor and video editor, and I can only edit Photos, there's no option for videos to edit like it was on my XZ3 in Album app.
Now I bought Simple Gallery Pro: Videos & Photos Manager & Editor. It's all I needed.
Hope it helps ya!
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And can't edit videos. I installed the latest version of sony album, sony photo editor and video editor, and I can only edit Photos, there's no option for videos to edit like it was on my XZ3 in Album app.
Now I bought Simple Gallery Pro: Videos & Photos Manager & Editor. It's all I needed.
Hope it helps ya!
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Thank you, Victor!
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For photo gallery search for sony album app in apk mirror. This is great gallery, I installed it and it works perfectly fine.
The only thing is in latest version sony broke / removed possibility to rotate picture.
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Got it . Thanks!
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And can't edit videos. I installed the latest version of sony album, sony photo editor and video editor, and I can only edit Photos, there's no option for videos to edit like it was on my XZ3 in Album app.
Now I bought Simple Gallery Pro: Videos & Photos Manager & Editor. It's all I needed.
Hope it helps ya!
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What do you mean by editing? Like cropping and filtering?
To be honest lack of many sony apps and leaving us with google garbage or trash from playstore is making me want to move to iPhone. Not because of built quality nor because of camera.
But because Apple provides many dedicated apps of high quality and ecosystem + it supports its devices for years.
Sony is on opposite route and is obsessed with feature / functions / apps removal.
I bet they hired someone sitting and scanning xperia code wondering what else he can cut off / remove
Mark 3 build quality is good.
But software wise it sucks so much.
Now you cannot even select which pane is the main screen but it always has to be the one on the left. Why so stupid limitation??? Shouldn't android be the system of freedom, options and customization as per user preference?
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Now you cannot even select which pane is the main screen but it always has to be the one on the left. Why so stupid limitation??? Shouldn't android be the system of freedom, options and customization as per user preference?
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For me, one of the attractions of Android is freedom to use any launcher. If you don't like the restrictions of the Sony launcher, then why not use another? I've been using the same Microsoft Launcher as I've used on last two phones and I'm very happy. Or I could use Nova, as I used to on earliuer phones.
Perhaps because launcher that runs all the time consumes also some battery?
And mark 3 has very weak battery life (no matter what mAh capacity says).
That's the main reason.
Do you know the reason why sony cut off those functionalities like possibility to select main screen? In past it was there...
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Perhaps because launcher that runs all the time consumes also some battery?
And mark 3 has very weak battery life (no matter what mAh capacity says).
That's the main reason.
Do you know the reason why sony cut off those functionalities like possibility to select main screen? In past it was there...
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All launchers will use some battery. If you remain with Sony launcher that will also. Looking in battery usage stats on my mark 3, the Microsoft launcher is using no more than any other mainstream launcher. It's not running "all the time" - compared to, say, Google Play Services it's running a tiny amount of time.
I agree battery life on Mark 3 is disappointing - but different launcher is not an issue. Suggest you try one or two - there are some excellent ones out there and setting new default is simple, and reversible.
Im sticking with stock launcher for a different reason, that gesture navigation is broken on 3rd party launchers. If the api is only coming in Android 12, then I guess its until Android 12 comes out...whenever that is.
The whole topic is about sony removing features and functions.
Like OBSESSED!
If this possibility to select hope screen was there why to remove it? It does not require further development...
And all great apps they had replacing with google stock crap... When I saw google crap gallery and saw no Sony album first thing I thought was to give the device back. Thankfully I found it can be downloaded from Internet and installed. Works fine.
And yes you will not find it on Google p(l)ay store... + ...
Software wise xperia devices became pathetic with this approach. + Of course no communication and no changelogs.
Many OEM's are slowly but surely removing their proprietary apps. Good...bad??? Debatable.
The reason is that there are...in most cases...dozens of apps that will do the same thing or better on the Play Store or APK mirror, as well as a number of other sites for use. So if you're missing something, chances are that you will be able to find it, or its equivalent, and be able to accomplish whatever you need.
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Im sticking with stock launcher for a different reason, that gesture navigation is broken on 3rd party launchers.
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Gesture navigation is working perfectly with Microsoft launcher.
Best launcher is Lawnchair, it is light and stable...
Does anyone have any idea if the left side of the screen (when sliding from left to right) can be configured with any other application rather than...Google App (of course) ? I would like to have News Suite set up for that screen.
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Does anyone have any idea if the left side of the screen (when sliding from left to right) can be configured with any other application rather than...Google App (of course) ? I would like to have News Suite set up for that screen.
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Unfortunately no.
Google scam is the only option.
I recommend to disable it.
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To be honest lack of many sony apps and leaving us with google garbage or trash from playstore is making me want to move to iPhone. Not because of built quality nor because of camera.
But because Apple provides many dedicated apps of high quality and ecosystem + it supports its devices for years.
Sony is on opposite route and is obsessed with feature / functions / apps removal.
I bet they hired someone sitting and scanning xperia code wondering what else he can cut off / remove
Mark 3 build quality is good.
But software wise it sucks so much.
Now you cannot even select which pane is the main screen but it always has to be the one on the left. Why so stupid limitation??? Shouldn't android be the system of freedom, options and customization as per user preference?
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Mate, the camera on my iPhone 13 Pro is miles better than on my Xperia 1 III, consistently better point & shoot pictures, both during the day and at night