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Hi,
Hope this is an OK place to post. I have a completely stock Droid Incredible 4G that I bought brand new a few months ago. I haven't rooted it yet, though I'm not completely opposed to the idea.
- Just wondering from other users if I should expect this phone to be decently smooth & zippy without any noticeable lag when launching apps or browsing?
It just seems like there are big lags when opening apps (sometimes many seconds, especially when first woken up). This seems much slower than my old Incredible. And internet-based apps or browsers seem to take many seconds to load info as well, even on our stupid-fast FIOS WiFi at work (or on LTE). I may be mistaken, but in general it feels slower in some ways than my original Incredible.
- Any chance something could cause this or I might have a dud??
BACKGROUND
I bought this after owning an original Droid Eris, then upgrading to the 1st generation Droid Incredible. I'm a huge fan of the Sense interface (only thing that makes Android nice to me). But my Incredible was just getting a bit old and having problems with Sense crashing often, the browser always crashing when launched, etc.
So I got the Incredible 4G expecting at least a decently noticeable increase in overall smoothness and performance over the original Incredible, based on the much faster processor and newer OS. I knew it wasn't the absolute fastest phone out, but didn't need that. Just wanted something without a gigantic screen.
I got the phone brand new, and have put mostly very common and popular apps on it (e.g., Handcent, SwiftKey, Facebook, Rhapsody, Pandora, Flixter, etc). I'm using about 50-60% RAM, and about 60+% of available phone app storage space. There's a ton of space on internal card and external SD. Most running apps appear to be stock apps that I don't think I can disable or uninstall.
- Anything general to look for to determine causes or general sluggishness?
I 'might' be open to rooting this if there was a VERY stable build of 4.1 running Sense. I'm hoping JellyBean will help a bit in the performance area, but who knows if Verizon will ever release it.
Thanks!
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jethrodesign said:
Hi,
Hope this is an OK place to post. I have a completely stock Droid Incredible 4G that I bought brand new a few months ago. I haven't rooted it yet, though I'm not completely opposed to the idea.
- Just wondering from other users if I should expect this phone to be decently smooth & zippy without any noticeable lag when launching apps or browsing?
It just seems like there are big lags when opening apps (sometimes many seconds, especially when first woken up). This seems much slower than my old Incredible. And internet-based apps or browsers seem to take many seconds to load info as well, even on our stupid-fast FIOS WiFi at work (or on LTE). I may be mistaken, but in general it feels slower in some ways than my original Incredible.
- Any chance something could cause this or I might have a dud??
BACKGROUND
I bought this after owning an original Droid Eris, then upgrading to the 1st generation Droid Incredible. I'm a huge fan of the Sense interface (only thing that makes Android nice to me). But my Incredible was just getting a bit old and having problems with Sense crashing often, the browser always crashing when launched, etc.
So I got the Incredible 4G expecting at least a decently noticeable increase in overall smoothness and performance over the original Incredible, based on the much faster processor and newer OS. I knew it wasn't the absolute fastest phone out, but didn't need that. Just wanted something without a gigantic screen.
I got the phone brand new, and have put mostly very common and popular apps on it (e.g., Handcent, SwiftKey, Facebook, Rhapsody, Pandora, Flixter, etc). I'm using about 50-60% RAM, and about 60+% of available phone app storage space. There's a ton of space on internal card and external SD. Most running apps appear to be stock apps that I don't think I can disable or uninstall.
- Anything general to look for to determine causes or general sluggishness?
I 'might' be open to rooting this if there was a VERY stable build of 4.1 running Sense. I'm hoping JellyBean will help a bit in the performance area, but who knows if Verizon will ever release it.
Thanks!
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I just got the Incredible 4g as a warranty replacement for the Rezound. It came new in a sealed box. I was excited to get a newer processor and I don't mind the smaller screen. But it seems sluggish or laggy when opening apps. I've done a factory reset twice. I took it in to Verizon and they tried to tell me it was a "slower phone" than the rezound even though it has a the S4 vs S3 processor. I've disabled a lot of the apps that come with the phone and uninstalled quite a few of the apps I ran without issues on the Rezound and on a DroidX before that. Has anyone else had issues? Wondering if rooting and running a custom rom would help?
jethrodesign said:
Hi,
Hope this is an OK place to post. I have a completely stock Droid Incredible 4G that I bought brand new a few months ago. I haven't rooted it yet, though I'm not completely opposed to the idea.
- Just wondering from other users if I should expect this phone to be decently smooth & zippy without any noticeable lag when launching apps or browsing?
It just seems like there are big lags when opening apps (sometimes many seconds, especially when first woken up). This seems much slower than my old Incredible. And internet-based apps or browsers seem to take many seconds to load info as well, even on our stupid-fast FIOS WiFi at work (or on LTE). I may be mistaken, but in general it feels slower in some ways than my original Incredible.
- Any chance something could cause this or I might have a dud??
BACKGROUND
I bought this after owning an original Droid Eris, then upgrading to the 1st generation Droid Incredible. I'm a huge fan of the Sense interface (only thing that makes Android nice to me). But my Incredible was just getting a bit old and having problems with Sense crashing often, the browser always crashing when launched, etc.
So I got the Incredible 4G expecting at least a decently noticeable increase in overall smoothness and performance over the original Incredible, based on the much faster processor and newer OS. I knew it wasn't the absolute fastest phone out, but didn't need that. Just wanted something without a gigantic screen.
I got the phone brand new, and have put mostly very common and popular apps on it (e.g., Handcent, SwiftKey, Facebook, Rhapsody, Pandora, Flixter, etc). I'm using about 50-60% RAM, and about 60+% of available phone app storage space. There's a ton of space on internal card and external SD. Most running apps appear to be stock apps that I don't think I can disable or uninstall.
- Anything general to look for to determine causes or general sluggishness?
I 'might' be open to rooting this if there was a VERY stable build of 4.1 running Sense. I'm hoping JellyBean will help a bit in the performance area, but who knows if Verizon will ever release it.
Thanks!
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I also came directly from the OG Dinc. Mine is s-off and rooted running ViperLTE (link). It is indeed Sense-based, very quick, and VERY stable. If you like sense, you'll very much like the ViperLTE ROM. My Dinc4G is much faster and smoother than my s-off/rooted OG Dinc.
Thankfully, now you have a several methods for rooting. Browse through the Dinc4G Resource Index (link). I recommend first rooting and then eliminating all of the Verizon Bloatware which simply takes up space. That alone may speed up your phone. Install something like Titanium Backup and back up all of your current apps and settings, then try out the ViperLTE ROM if you like sense. (And then restore your apps & data from backup). There are now a few other good ROM choices available to try, such as an official release of CyanogenMod 10.1 (not sense based).
Edit: Its been a while since I did the s-off, but I remembered that you may not be able to to the TiB first, as you're not rooted. IIRC, all current rooting methods require running the RUU which will nuke all of your installed apps... it's worth the hassle to reinstall everything after rooting. Once you're rooted, then back everything up. Nandroid, and scheduled backups of your apps are a great idea. With the back-ups done, then you can play around with different ROMs and restore afterwards. Huge time saver.
Just got the 5.0 OTA last night, thought I'd share my impressions, especially since this is likely the last major update we'll get straight from google.
The update started with a 325 MB download, then a couple minutes staring at circles bouncing around, followed by 10 mins of "optimizing" apps, likely compiling them for ART. New lock screen is a little funny, have to swipe up to go to the homescreen since the circle lock is gone, and notifications show up right away. The notifications pulldown has gone back to only one, with a second or two-finger pull necessary to see quick settings, no idea why this changes with every Android update.
I have a lot more default google apps uninstalled than new apps installed, and they always try to sneak a couple more in with each major OTA update. In this case, it was a new Photos app, that doesn't work at all with Google+ disabled as I have it; a Google Docs app that requires being signed into a google account, replacing the QuickOffice app that was there before, which didn't require signing in and could actually read pdfs; and a Contacts app that I believe I had disabled before, since it's useless on a tablet without phone service. I disabled all three (strangely, there were two Photos apps with the same icon in the Settings, disabled them both), all of them went into the junk pile with Google Play Newsstand and all the rest. This means I don't have a photo/video Gallery app installed anymore, oh well, have to go find one.
They don't seem to have pulled any fast ones with the Settings this time, though the categories have become even harder to touch to select since they take up half the space horizontally but are still thin vertically. Lollipop feels like a step backwards in UI and usability across the board, for example, the new labels are confusingly undifferentiated from clickable options: I tried to hit the Advanced heading in the Chrome Beta settings five times before I realized it was not clickable. Scrolling down the Settings and hitting the bottom makes a strange half-circle shadow show up at the top, no idea what's going on there.
The graphics generally looked strangely jagged and lower-res right after updating, which I especially noticed with the Chrome Beta, which doesn't show each tab separately in the app switcher like advertised, maybe that's for phones only. Another place the graphics are worse are in the data and battery graphs. Maybe that was just after the update though, because Chrome Beta doesn't seem as bad to me now, or maybe I've already gotten used to it. The data usage graph is worse, since I can't change the time period to a week or 10 days anymore and see what's been using up data lately.
Otherwise, my Nexus 10 feels faster across the board, probably because of ART, and battery life seems to have improved when idle. It's strange how this tablet has had such wild swings in idle battery life over the last couple years, with some Android builds lasting 3-4 days when idle with wifi enabled and others going weeks! I like how the battery usage graph now tries to extrapolate how much time you have left if using the tablet, though I could see that image confusing some users.
As for apps, as usual MX Player stopped working after the upgrade because it doesn't recognize the new 5.0 version number, will have to wait for them to update before trying it out. Everything else seems to work fine. Maybe I'll update here once I get a chance to use lollipop more, but it seems to be a strange mix of better performance and going backwards in UI and usability, with a lot of UI changes seemingly made for the sake of changing something, often making it worse.
Why can't google just focus on adding multi-window to base Android, a feature I've wanted for years and which would actually make Android tablets more capable, instead of adding another coat of paint to the UI and needlessly moving things around over and over again? Guess I'll have to go Samsung and put up with touchwiz if I ever want that.
Honest and straight. I've been crying myself hoarse that each iteration of Android seems to entrench more Google apps into the system as an indispensable part of Android, when the truth is that they serve as leaky apps with access to all your "private" data, under the ploy of enhancing user experience! In actual they are only bloatware that need to be disabled / uninstalled to derive any system enhancement. Each UI has little to offer in terms of improvements, while persistent Google bloatware and services that keep running in the background, hogging system resources, and depleting whatever battery advantages the system improvements offered. Personally I'd like to keep away from lollipop till it rises in my expectations.
Dead Cookies leave no trails...
I couldn't be happier with Lollipop. I mainly surf internet and it is now 10x faster than before. Battery life is also 50% better. It still offered quickoffice for me in the welcome setup, but i didn't need it because drive can read pdf files.
joakim_one said:
... As for apps, as usual MX Player stopped working after the upgrade because it doesn't recognize the new 5.0 version number, will have to wait for them to update before trying it out.
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Use the MX Player beta: https://sites.google.com/site/mxvpen/translation/test-build
Release notes include:
Support HW+ on Android 5.0
Support Pro version on Android 5.0
I've used it on my Nexus 5 with android 5 and it works as well on my HD content as it did no KitKat.
I just stumbled across this nice Ars article that lays out many of the ways lollipop and google are failing at design for larger tablets like the Nexus 10.
I'd have to say, I do enjoy the new OS. It's slightly faster, clean and just works. It's still relatively new so devs (the ones still working on the N10) will eventually catch up. What I don't like is that there seems to be far less free space than before, even with the same setup. This is apparently due to ART from what I've read. 32GB is now the new 8GB. Now if anyone can come up with a 128GB internal memory hack, that would be awesome.
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I just stumbled across this nice Ars article that lays out many of the ways lollipop and google are failing at design for larger tablets like the Nexus 10.
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Thanks for this link. It is an interesting read and seems more balanced than some of the "Lollipop is a bug ridden release" hate-bait I've been seeing. I'll write my on comments on the N10 upgrade experience (upgrade less than 24 hours ago) in a few days but I already disagree or at least am less concerned than the article implies about the wasted space issue.
3DSammy said:
Thanks for this link. It is an interesting read and seems more balanced than some of the "Lollipop is a bug ridden release" hate-bait I've been seeing. I'll write my on comments on the N10 upgrade experience (upgrade less than 24 hours ago) in a few days but I already disagree or at least am less concerned than the article implies about the wasted space issue.
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I agree with the first part of your post, but I am the opposite on the second part. The wasted space immediately threw me off. Both on lockscreen and notifications panel.
I still don't get why people think the memory has anything to do with 64 v 32. I have never heard a person ever say "oh you machine is laggy because you have a 64bit machine and not enough memory." until I found this sub-forum. The iPhone/iPad have had 1-2GB of RAM and not had any huge performance issues while being 64bit.
There are memory issues, that's it, nothing to do with it being 64-bit or not. 3GB MAY "fix" the issue, but that would really just mean the machine would go longer until it started to show symptoms. The nexus 5 and 6 had LOTS of memory issues on Android 5 and no one ever said "it's not enough memory" and not being 64bit hardware they couldn't blame that, because it worked fine on 4.X. We have no 4.X to compare with, so everyone just wants to blame 64 bit when really, it just needs more software fixes that Google isn't spending time on.
If anything having a 64bit CPU just means the CPU can work harder and faster, even if it was running 32bit software. I know that not many developers ahve latched on to the n9, but i would NOT be surprised if a few clever ones could figure out what is actually causing the memory leaks/aggressive paging. For example on my n6 it is using about 4-500MB less ram, just to to Android OS and Google App. There is nothign about being 64-bit that means the Kernel needs over 2x's the memory usage. Something is making it keep memory instead of releasing it. I am not smart enough to know what that "something" is, but I'm sure someone that develops and has an N9 is smart enough and can file a bug report for it that we can all upvote.
If there are any current open bug reports for memory usage on the n9 please link them to me, I will gladly upvote them. Lets just be clear there is no reason to suspect this is anything more than a software issue.
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Here is a bug report i found of the problem, if more people could Star it then it can get up the priority list.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=175232
People like to blame the 64bit OS because the switch does make processes consume slightly more memory. If implemented poorly, a 64bit OS can eat up a lot more RAM. Windows XP 64, any Itanium based system and many early x64 Linux distributions come to mind.
Somehow Android OS on my N6 averages 220mb, while it's 800+ on the N9. Because the N9 is 64 bit, that change seems to be the obvious culprit. Clearly, the N9 didn't ship with enough RAM based on the OS memory use as somehow the N6 has 3gb for an 220MB OS footprint and the N9 has only 2mb, despite an OS that eats almost 4x the memory.
Switching to a 64bit OS should make the CPU, RAM, etc. all run 'faster', but if there's not enough RAM to hold running software, the experience will slow down as more processes need to be shuffled in and out of RAM. Look at what happens to a computer when it 'runs out of RAM'. The constant game of musical RAM chairs will more than erase any gains from switching to 64 bit.
In my mind, there is no question that SERIOUS problems exist with this device. The fact that this is one of the first 64bit Android devices is almost definitely a contributing factor, but the slightly reduced efficiency of how 64bit memory is allocated can in no way explain the problems with the devices. Something MUCH deeper is going on. Based on some research, here is what I've learned.
1: Some part of the OS is using an obscene amount of memory. Some of this is probably Google's fault because 64 bit Android just wasn't ready. I'm also pretty sure nVidia and HTC are more to blame for this issue than Google.
2: There's still not enough RAM. If the N6 has 3GB, there is no reason why the N9 shouldn't. Most tablet users run more memory-intensive
3: HTC built a bad device. I've had cellular issues with VZW & ATT which have been discussed in these forums and are obviously HTC's fault. I've also read about there being some hardware issues causing the ram to 'freeze' which required a replacement device.
4: nVidia's hardware sucks. More accurately, their x64 bit implementation of the hardware.
5: Graphics: I BELIEVE THIS IS THE GIANT ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM OF ISSUES. The nVidia Shield has similar hardware with a standard HD screen. The N9 has a different aspect ratio and a lot more pixels. The horrible application switching lag even with relatively low memory use (a process that is still taxing on the GPU) makes me think this is the main flaw of the device. This problem could also make the OS eat more memory to make up for the OS issues. A graphics issue would be everyone's fault. Google is to blame for insisting on this change when the other hardware just couldn't support it properly and choosing partners incapable of delivering the hardware to properly support the screen. nVidia and HTC to blame for not providing sufficient hardware and software support for the screen.
In reality, I think several factors combined to produce this issue. The components of the system were designed primarily for 32-bit implementations of Android. 64-bit support was baked into them, but it wasn't the focus of the components. The device itself was probably designed before 64-bit Android was even available to test properly. Because the pieces looked like they should fit together on paper, everyone just assumed they would. Unfortunately,for some components the fact that they could run in 64-bit mode, didn't mean they would run well.
x64 gets blamed because it is unknown. The average user has no idea what it means to have a 64 bit platform vs 32 bit. IMO x64 is unneeded unless you're mapping 4gb or more RAM and doing a lot of computations with large numbers.
There is most certainly a memory penalty since the os must run 64 bit code and likely have a vm of some sort to run all the existing 32 bit stuff. In windows this is obvious as you have program files and program files (x86) folders as well as windows\system32 and windows\syswow64 humorously the former is the 64 bit subsystem and the latter is the x86 subsystem. This is why you should plan ahead when architecting your applications and not name your folders poorly.
All that said, I have an htc m9 in addition to the nexus. The m9 is also 64 bit and has no issues. Not an apples to apples comparison since it is a Qualcomm processor with 3gb of ram and less pixels but it should indicate that 64 bit android is not the problem in and of itself.
Thanks guys. 64-bit apps should use at most 15-20% more RAM compared to their 32-bt counterparts, simply due to the fast that 64-bit assets are larger. The issue we have is that in cases like Android OS, using over 120% more memory than on a 32bit device. It also for some reason seems at times to feel like the GPU is taxed and it definitely should not be. So either the GPU drivers are buggy or the GPU memory is very limited. Luckily much of this is improved on 6.0, but there are still issues that need to be addressed in the OS itself.
Because saying "I do not know why my Nexus 9 performs poorly" is boring. Jumping to conclusions is much more exciting and dramatic.
knitler said:
Thanks guys. 64-bit apps should use at most 15-20% more RAM compared to their 32-bt counterparts, simply due to the fast that 64-bit assets are larger. The issue we have is that in cases like Android OS, using over 120% more memory than on a 32bit device. It also for some reason seems at times to feel like the GPU is taxed and it definitely should not be. So either the GPU drivers are buggy or the GPU memory is very limited. Luckily much of this is improved on 6.0, but there are still issues that need to be addressed in the OS itself.
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I suspect you are right that there are driver issues. Sadly our only recourse is to wait on nvidia/htc/google to rectify the issue.
Don't know what it is but 6.0 is not what I expected. Jerky , slow loading and very unpleasant to use. Have never rooted or rommed. Don't think I should have to. Did a FDR, no improvement. Have to constantly clear app cache and system cache to make it tolerable. Hoping for some relief from Google
Android 6 on my stock nexus 9 has brought every task switch of any kind to a near unusable lag. 4 to a full 20 seconds is the norm now. In fact, just about every response to user action in every app has this problem now. I've got almost nothing except Google's apps, many of which I don't use, but still have something running.
The tablet is now a paper weight, almost. The delays make it unusable, as you can't tell whether an interface action didn't "take", or is just laggy.
I did this as an update. Should I just wipe and reinstall clean? If so, where do I get the necessary files and instructions?
Thanks for any insight.
Black Friday buy, feeling I'm going to return it, two days in and I can see the issues already
dislplin01 said:
Black Friday buy, feeling I'm going to return it, two days in and I can see the issues already
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Welcome to the Lagsus 9 owners club [emoji6] Did it ship with latest android version, or did you ota update?
rolldroids said:
Welcome to the Lagsus 9 owners club [emoji6] Did it ship with latest android version, or did you ota update?
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It had to update, actually had like 7 different updates, I'm pretty sure I'm returning it I'm really unimpressed and most of it is hardware issues that can't be fixed, lack of ram, light bleed, ****ty power and volume buttons, not exactly the thinnest lightest tablet. Don't get me wrong its a nexus and I do like it, but I don't plan on buying another tablet for at least three years and if I'm already feeling a little unhappy
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It had to update, actually had like 7 different updates, I'm pretty sure I'm returning it I'm really unimpressed and most of it is hardware issues that can't be fixed, lack of ram, light bleed, ****ty power and volume buttons, not exactly the thinnest lightest tablet. Don't get me wrong its a nexus and I do like it, but I don't plan on buying another tablet for at least three years and if I'm already feeling a little unhappy
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I wish I would have returned it, but haven't because I thought they were fixing the memory leak. And after fixed it turned out that all other Nexus devices do well but not the n9.
Feel free to try my ROM if you're unsatisfied with what Google has done with stock.
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Feel free to try my ROM if you're unsatisfied with what Google has done with stock.
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Does it have lower system ram usage? There are people (like me) who want just use their device as a normal user and get ota updates and not flash the device manually every few weeks. It's very nice that you are sharing it anyway!
Everyone try first "safe mode" on Nexus 9 for 3-5 days to see if this app or hardware problem!
Press and hold power button
pres and hold "power off" option
then choose OK.
If problems gone (lag, resetting) then do factory reset without backup, install app manually not all at once from backup. It helped mine Nexus 9
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Does it have lower system ram usage? There are people (like me) who want just use their device as a normal user and get ota updates and not flash the device manually every few weeks. It's very nice that you are sharing it anyway!
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I think you'll be happy. Popular quote that people often use is:
You have breathed new life into my Nexus 9.
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With that said, it's entirely possible to flash one build and stick with it for however long as you wish. When you do decide to update, you simply create a backup, "wipe", and flash the newer build with some gapps. Something to keep in mind here is that Nexus devices were created to be fiddled with. If you aren't fiddling, you aren't getting the full experience. It is a developer's device, after all. :highfive:
If this is a road you do decide to travel down, just be sure to do a lot of reading and understand what you're doing prior to doing it.
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I think you'll be happy. Popular quote that people often use is:
With that said, it's entirely possible to flash one build and stick with it for however long as you wish. When you do decide to update, you simply create a backup, "wipe", and flash the newer build with some gapps. Something to keep in mind here is that Nexus devices were created to be fiddled with. If you aren't fiddling, you aren't getting the full experience. It is a developer's device, after all. :highfive:
If this is a road you do decide to travel down, just be sure to do a lot of reading and understand what you're doing prior to doing it.
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It's a normal end user device, too. And for me the only choice. Don't like apple products at all. Don't want to buy a device and then not get updates. To be exactly, I want to know before I buy and not hope that Samsung, lg or whatever are so friendly to update. And, I don't like the modifications they do to the UI. So for me there is no other than Nexus. But I don't want this special fiddling experience. (For now. I will probably install a ROM on my Nexus 7 2012 some day)
According to this document
https://01.org/android-ia/user-guides/android-memory-tuning-android-5.0-and-5.1
64 bit indeed increases ram usage a lot...
I also have the impression that this is rather an issue with the Nvidia chipset or the general hardware design than with the system being 64bit.
This morning I had a very LOL moment when I read the Google Pixel C review of The Verve:
>>The specs are also huge: 3GB of RAM paired to the latest Nvidia X1 64-bit processor. That all seems good, but something is amiss with performance on the Pixel C. There are inexcusable pauses and latency, especially when launching and switching apps. <<
http://www.theverge.com/2015/12/8/9869980/google-pixel-c-tablet-review-android
So the problem still seems to be out of control. Too bad.
There are many threads about the Nexus 9 and memory issues but I have yet to see any reports of specific analysis of the issue on a problem device. I've had no memory issues with the Nexus 9, 7, 7(2013),5 and Asus tablets. I seen no evidence that there are hardware differences between Nexus 9's (except the pre release version tested for FCC emissions had a Miracast chip) and I believe it is down to the apps that users run. In support of this opinion:
Resets are recommended to clear the issues.
Google state at Investigating Your RAM Usage Although Dalvik and ART perform routine garbage collection (GC), this doesn’t mean you can ignore when and where your app allocates and releases memory. In order to provide a stable user experience that allows the system to quickly switch between apps, it is important that your app does not needlessly consume memory when the user is not interacting with it. Has anyone with memory issues looked at the recommended tests at the link above?
The quality of apps published. Anecdotal evidence (I hope it's wrong) that publishing an app on Google store can be done in 30 minutes but Apple requires "days". I've never owned an Apple product I'm just saying that to me, not a software developer, that the compliance standards imposed on the software tested may allow bad coding to slip through.
Trying to do WFH, and this device affects your productivity, and is root cause of all problems.
Chinese products should as always never be trusted or relied upon
I am trying to do USB tethering, and for no reason the device would just disconnect, just USB tethering is stopped for no reason.
Upon further usages, learned that this is due to large amount of data being consumed in short interval, so if you put something huge for download, or if your VPN access includes RDP, that also consumes large amount of data due to visuals, your USB tethering will make your cringe.
It's a brand new purchase, i'm using original cable, and I don't have this pathetic problem with my samsung phone and my 4G dongle on the same port. did not even unlock bootloader, or done any rooting.
While writing this post, my tethering was disconnected 3 times.
Next up.
If you dial *#*# 4636#*#*, and select your required bands as NR/LTE, you will never receive or be able to do phone calls, CALLS END PREMATURELY. This happens when using single sim or dual.
How are we even supposed to use 5G, if It cannot even do phone calls.
The phone also has some annoying apps and services that cannot be disabled or force stopped for even a single seconds, that includes game app, facebook service, and some oneplus apps. they keep consuming RAM and CPU in background
Already took 4 months to provide OOS 11, but the recent OOS10 update provided had old security patches.
When I bought the phone, I got some red club benefits, I had few options to choose from, like extended warranty, free 1 time screen replacement, buyback exchange if I want to upgrade to new phone release, and 50gb cloud data.
Now it's all gone, only because I thought waiting and well thought choice would be wise, but who knew there was hidden time limit on offers.
Btw I got red club membership with this however the device now wants me to buy one.
if you are planning to play games, let me tell you, you cannot charge and play the game simultaneously, the phone would heat up, and cause fps drops for no reason.
If you use official call recording it does proper recording, but loudly wants to make the announcement and it's not automatic, I have to use 3rd party apps, but the recording in them has quite low sound.
camera has quite poor low light results.
It's launcher app is quite annoying, when I switched to nova launcher, and set default launcher to nova, the oneplus launcher do keep popping up and wouldn't let me use nova.
The Expanded Screenshot feature has to be used twice for it to work properly and take long screenshots.
The phone's Type C port provides quite low speed with accessories, be it if you use type c pendrive, or USB Cable, or Type C to RJ-45 jack.
As I am tired of waiting for OOS11, I will go with root and linageOS, if I find hardware issues, I'm done with this phone.
I'm starting some cleaning on it. I choosed to keep stock rom but rooted with Magisk, because this kind of process conserve the stock boot.img and add the root module to it so it seems easier to get rid of any modifications in case you need it.
My project is actually to keep OOS, in an unbloated way, because I like the experience. I'm sure you can build some rom with another launcher set default, but if you go lineage, I would be really interested into reading your experience about it.
Feel free to check my thread in signature, actually looking like a memo, I will update it with every improvement I can find or if I finally switch to lineage.
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since you mentioned "red club", i presume you are from india or using the vaiant that was manufactured in india.. if you visit the oneplus nord official forum, you will hear lots of build quality complaints from indian variants..
I can't really support any of these sentences (except the bloatware) about OP Nord. My device comes from Amazon Germany and is a real daily driver, everything works the way intended (although sometimes I'm being notified an error report had been generated, but no app crashes).
I am not playing resource intensive games to be honest, but charging and watching a movie / streaming works fine here, the wifi and BT radio do no sabotage themselves when using them simultaneously (wireless headset and download/streaming on the device), whereas this was normal with my ZTE axon 7 mini back then.
I rooted my phone and kept it as stock as well as @lol1nt3rn3t and deactivated all unwanted system apps. I also schedule a reboot each night around midnight until 6AM, which makes sure the RAM is not occupied by zombie processes or still allocated data by terminated apps
Hi,
I currently own a Touch pad running Cyanogen Mod, Version 4.2.2 which I installed in 2013.
I'm confused about upgrading as their is many ROMS to choose from.
Can someone recommend me a stable rom with the latest version on android available for the touchpad, something that has everything working.
preve83 said:
Hi,
I currently own a Touch pad running Cyanogen Mod, Version 4.2.2 which I installed in 2013.
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A lot changed since 2013.
preve83 said:
I'm confused about upgrading as their is many ROMS to choose from.
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Does the Tablet has WebOS, or only Android?
New ROMS requires the system partition to be larger.
preve83 said:
Can someone recommend me a stable rom with the latest version on android available for the touchpad, something that has everything working.
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A ROM that all works, Bluetooth, Stable Wifi and camera is:
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
My recommendation is to set the system partition to allow the installation of newer ROMS. Then any Android version can be flash until 9.
The Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with _Swap
Can be flash and will take care of everything, follow this guide, it also provides all the links to all ROMS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
Any ROM can be flash ( install ), just wipe everything using TWRP 3.2 download zip files, copy to tablet and flash.
@HP_TOUCHPAD , Hello, I still can't believe we have support for the touch pad....
I flashed Evervolv 7.1.2 in my 1gb rab (black touchpad) and it didn't work quite well, it would often crash and every app would either become slow and unresponsive or simply crash..
The ram in my tp is just around some 830 mb and I noticed that the OS would use up as much as 220 to 250 mb. The touch pad was dead a long ago and I revived it back today, and I am planning to delete the Evervolv ROM and flash something else that wouldn't stuck or crash a lot, I only want to use it for Youtube and google searches(if not google app, maybe at least internet browsing using a browser).
What rom would you recommend that's not floppy and laggy and at the same time the one that can support Youtube and Internet browser ?
Now I know you said use the Evervolv 7.1.2, but I think I have either missed something while I was flashing or I downloaded an experimental rom, the Touchpad would literally become unresponsive to the touch(well ironically it's named "touchpad"), and a lot of times just drain the battery.
And, Yes I still have the web OS with the Evervolv9it was my first time flashing a rom so I let the Web OS stay as a fail safe, coz I was 15 when I first flashed a custom rom to the touchpad).
I just want to give it to my mom, so I want it to work smooth and stable(more importantly, I just want it to run youtube in a stable and smooth state)....
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@HP_TOUCHPAD , Hello, I still can't believe we have support for the touch pad....
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I can not believe that my original touchpad from the fire sale still has a battery capacity as NEW, that one I do not use much. But I have others that do specially as a music player, yes is louD ! Best device that I will ever have.
LN11211 said:
I flashed Evervolv 7.1.2 in my 1gb rab (black touchpad) and it didn't work quite well, it would often crash and every app would either become slow and unresponsive or simply crash..
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Did you get the ROM from this guide?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
You are using WebOS, there is no need to do the Automatic Wipe All.
A lot has changed since 2011, is 2021 now and all ROMs have more memory up to the full 1GB and the highest CPU frequency.
LN11211 said:
The ram in my tp is just around some 830 mb and I noticed that the OS would use up as much as 220 to 250 mb. The touch pad was dead a long ago and I revived it back today, and I am planning to delete the Evervolv ROM and flash something else that wouldn't stuck or crash a lot, I only want to use it for Youtube and google searches(if not google app, maybe at least internet browsing using a browser).
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Dead long ago and it came back, it almost sound as the new Messiah that everyone has been waiting for !
It all depends on the kernel version, the MaXtreme 1836 is the fastest with more RAM.
There are other alternatives to youtube and the best browser to use is : https://www.bromite.org/
youtube alternatives apps.
LN11211 said:
What rom would you recommend that's not floppy and laggy and at the same time the one that can support Youtube and Internet browser ?
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Evervolv 7.1.2, ( it all depends on the Kernel version that is use ) Do not use it with the original kernel, look at the guide of the different options.
LN11211 said:
Now I know you said use the Evervolv 7.1.2, but I think I have either missed something while I was flashing or I downloaded an experimental rom, the Touchpad would literally become unresponsive to the touch(well ironically it's named "touchpad"), and a lot of times just drain the battery.
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If that battery was not in use for a long time, it may actually have less capacity left.
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And, Yes I still have the web OS with the Evervolv9it was my first time flashing a rom so I let the Web OS stay as a fail safe, coz I was 15 when I first flashed a custom rom to the touchpad).
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Flashing is now done with TWRP 3.2 and all ROMs can be flash easily, working 100% all the time.
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I just want to give it to my mom, so I want it to work smooth and stable(more importantly, I just want it to run youtube in a stable and smooth state)....
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The HP Touchpad works perfectly as a streaming device, either for music or video. But there are ways to set it up to get the most out of it that will allow it to perform. It can not be compare to an actual device in performance or user experience.
Is a device that can be fully customized to fit your specific needs. Flashing the ROM properly with the best kernel option is as important as the type of Apps. The Android options are too many and the user needs to experiment on it's own.
I also have a Touchpad with 4.2.2. that I installed on it and I'm wondering if there's any advantage of upgrading to another newer rom. The main issue here is this device is old and not very fast and so maybe its best to keep it on 4.2.2, unless someone can tell me that a newer rom would make this faster. New features in newer roms don't matter much if the speed becomes slower and if the OS takes more RAM etc. On top of that some people are reporting issues with the stability of a newer rom (change the kernel or not).
It doesn't look like its possible to have a stable rom that is newer and has more features and provides us a faster user interface.
So.... does any one know of any advantages of using a newer ROM on this device?
alan-31 said:
I also have a Touchpad with 4.2.2. that I installed on it and I'm wondering if there's any advantage of upgrading to another newer rom.
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Android 4.2.2 is no longer supported by google. With a never ROM everything works, the ones that supports all the hardware is evervolv 7.1.2.
alan-31 said:
The main issue here is this device is old and not very fast and so maybe its best to keep it on 4.2.2, unless someone can tell me that a newer rom would make this faster.
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Yes it is an old device, but what matters are the settings and how is been use.
With the settings from this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
The cpu can be set in all the ROMs up to 1836 ( that is for each core ). All the ROM RAM is optimized to use almost the full 1GB, versus the original that can only use a little over 800 MB.
What makes the Tablet slow are the google services ( play store ).
The tablet can be use with no gapps and set up to use bromite, newpipe and many other googles alternatives.
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New features in newer roms don't matter much if the speed becomes slower and if the OS takes more RAM etc.
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The features are provided by the hardware which is the same for all the ROMs, WiFi, Bluetooth, sound and camera.
New Android version use more RAM only if the play store is use, and the speed can be set the same to all the ROM.
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On top of that some people are reporting issues with the stability of a newer rom (change the kernel or not).
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All ROM posted on the mentioned guide are 100 % stable if the kernels use are the one listed.
Stability issues are due to users installing optimizing Apps to make things faster, which takes more RAM and create problems.
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It doesn't look like its possible to have a stable rom that is newer and has more features and provides us a faster user interface.
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Yes all ROMs are stable, Wifi works better until 7.1.2, it works on 8 and 9 but may not reconnect, but al depends on the user router.
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So.... does any one know of any advantages of using a newer ROM on this device?
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A newer ROM provides support from google and all new apps can be use. This has always been the same with all PC operating system, a 10 year old OS is not supported any longer and even a basic web browser will not work.
The same will happen when google stops supporting Android PIE, no more apps will run one it not even a web browser.
That could probably happen 10 years from now or sooner, by then the tablet could only be use as a local media player, for music, video or pictures.
Example: https://www.bromite.org/ The best full browser to use on the tablet with no need of the play store.
But it can only be use on Android Lollipop 5.0 and above (SDK21)
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Android 4.2.2 is no longer supported by google. With a never ROM everything works, the ones that supports all the hardware is evervolv 7.1.2.
Yes it is an old device, but what matters are the settings and how is been use.
With the settings from this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
The cpu can be set in all the ROMs up to 1836 ( that is for each core ). All the ROM RAM is optimized to use almost the full 1GB, versus the original that can only use a little over 800 MB.
What makes the Tablet slow are the google services ( play store ).
The tablet can be use with no gapps and set up to use bromite, newpipe and many other googles alternatives.
The features are provided by the hardware which is the same for all the ROMs, WiFi, Bluetooth, sound and camera.
New Android version use more RAM only if the play store is use, and the speed can be set the same to all the ROM.
All ROM posted on the mentioned guide are 100 % stable if the kernels use are the one listed.
Stability issues are due to users installing optimizing Apps to make things faster, which takes more RAM and create problems.
Yes all ROMs are stable, Wifi works better until 7.1.2, it works on 8 and 9 but may not reconnect, but al depends on the user router.
A newer ROM provides support from google and all new apps can be use. This has always been the same with all PC operating system, a 10 year old OS is not supported any longer and even a basic web browser will not work.
The same will happen when google stops supporting Android PIE, no more apps will run one it not even a web browser.
That could probably happen 10 years from now or sooner, by then the tablet could only be use as a local media player, for music, video or pictures.
Example: https://www.bromite.org/ The best full browser to use on the tablet with no need of the play store.
But it can only be use on Android Lollipop 5.0 and above (SDK21)
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Some of this is just wrong. Yes, 4.4 isn't supported. But that doesn't mean you can't use it. YouTube v14 will run fine, so will NewPipe. You can use Google Chrome 80-something, and that works perfectly fine for browsing the web, it's still new enough to render almost everything properly. Bromite of that same version should work as well on 4.4. You can also use Yalp Store instead of Aurora to use 4.4 without Gapps. If apps are unsupported, you could download old versions from apkmirror, they usually still work fine, even the internet based ones.
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Some of this is just wrong. Yes, 4.4 isn't supported. But that doesn't mean you can't use it.
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What makes a device to be functional is the Operating System. That is the reason we are in the XDA Web Site forum and not HP or WebOS. The Tablet can be use even with WebOS and many still do because they do not want to upgrade.
You can use it any way you want it, but is not the optimal or best way to get the full functionality that it can offer.
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YouTube v14 will run fine, so will NewPipe. You can use Google Chrome 80-something, and that works perfectly fine for browsing the web, it's still new enough to render almost everything properly. Bromite of that same version should work as well on 4.4. You can also use Yalp Store instead of Aurora to use 4.4 without Gapps. If apps are unsupported, you could download old versions from apkmirror, they usually still work fine, even the internet based ones.
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Why try to work with old software when new ones are available and works perfectly with the Tablet?
On the news today, January 4 of 2022:
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life
BlackBerry 7.1 OS and earlier, BlackBerry 10 software, BlackBerry PlayBook OS 2.1 and earlier versions, will no longer be available after January 4, 2022. As of this date, devices running these legacy services and software through either carrier or Wi-Fi connections will no longer reliably function, including for data, phone calls, SMS and 9-1-1 functionality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_10
On 14 May 2013 BlackBerry OS 10.1 was launched.
The HP Touchpad was released July 1, 2011 (WebOS), is two years older than the BlackBerry released in 2013.
The HP Touchpad is 100% functional, due to the great job of many developers that got Android on it.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
What makes a device to be functional is the Operating System. That is the reason we are in the XDA Web Site forum and not HP or WebOS. The Tablet can be use even with WebOS and many still do because they do not want to upgrade.
You can use it any way you want it, but is not the optimal or best way to get the full functionality that it can offer.
Why try to work with old software when new ones are available and works perfectly with the Tablet?
On the news today, January 4 of 2022:
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life
BlackBerry 7.1 OS and earlier, BlackBerry 10 software, BlackBerry PlayBook OS 2.1 and earlier versions, will no longer be available after January 4, 2022. As of this date, devices running these legacy services and software through either carrier or Wi-Fi connections will no longer reliably function, including for data, phone calls, SMS and 9-1-1 functionality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_10
On 14 May 2013 BlackBerry OS 10.1 was launched.
The HP Touchpad was released July 1, 2011 (WebOS), is two years older than the BlackBerry released in 2013.
The HP Touchpad is 100% functional, due to the great job of many developers that got Android on it.
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4.x Android is simply faster than Android 7.1. That's why you would bother with using old builds of software on an outdated OS. No matter how optimized it is, or how much you overclock it, 7.1 will always be a heavier OS than 4.4. I've seen it before, and on low end devices, that speed difference really matters.
Essentially newer OS means more reliable apps, but worse performance.
Older OS = better performance, worse apps.
It all depends on what you prefer. For me, so long as that old OS is useable enough, I prefer the outdated but fast OS over the fully useable slow one.
Let's take another example: Say you have one laptop to use in 2022. You've got a netbook with a 1.6Ghz Intel Atom n280, and 1GB of RAM.
You *could* technically run Windows 10 on here if you wanted to. The hardware technically supports it. But is it a good idea? No, not at all. It's gonna be extremely slow and annoying to use. I'd rather run Windows XP on such a device, use Firefox 52.9ESR and deal with some broken webpages than use Windows 10 and a modern browser. At least with XP you're gonna have a fast and snappy computer, even if you have to use some old apps to get things done.
(Of course, this is hypothetical. The true best choice in this situation would be a Linux install with a simple X11 window manager or Windows 7 without transparency effects)
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4.x Android is simply faster than Android 7.1. That's why you would bother with using old builds of software on an outdated OS. No matter how optimized it is, or how much you overclock it, 7.1 will always be a heavier OS than 4.4. I've seen it before, and on low end devices, that speed difference really matters.
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No, Android 4.x uses an old kernel, Android 7.1 and newer are built with a newer kernel providing better support for the hardware and software.
Android is not the native operating system for the Tablet, earlier version of Android had issues than with the time was improve.
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Essentially newer OS means more reliable apps, but worse performance.
Older OS = better performance, worse apps.
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It all depends on the settings and how is set up, but newer OS provides better support. Software is what makes the hardware to work.
Devices are not mechanical machines that works on the principal of physical parts, but works on code, software.
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It all depends on what you prefer. For me, so long as that old OS is useable enough, I prefer the outdated but fast OS over the fully useable slow one.
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Check this guide and see that all ROMs have the same settings, optimized to use the full 1GB of RAM and CPU speed plus swap partition.
Any original ( stock ) Android ROM can not provide the same settings even if the user try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-max-1gb-ram-max-1836-frequency-for-all-roms.3973149/
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Let's take another example: Say you have one laptop to use in 2022. You've got a netbook with a 1.6Ghz Intel Atom n280, and 1GB of RAM.
You *could* technically run Windows 10 on here if you wanted to. The hardware technically supports it. But is it a good idea? No, not at all. It's gonna be extremely slow and annoying to use. I'd rather run Windows XP on such a device, use Firefox 52.9ESR and deal with some broken webpages than use Windows 10 and a modern browser. At least with XP you're gonna have a fast and snappy computer, even if you have to use some old apps to get things done.
(Of course, this is hypothetical. The true best choice in this situation would be a Linux install with a simple X11 window manager or Windows 7 without transparency effects)
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It all depends on how that laptop is setup and the drivers installed.
If the laptop is used with all the bloatware ( extra software ) and outdated display drivers, it can not be use.
A Windows 10 installation that has all the unnecessary software remove ( which is a lot ) will provide the basic to support the hardware of a 10 or 15 year old PC and performs very fast with even just 4GB of RAM. What makes the PC slow is all the extra Task ( background process ).
The same applies to any Linux OS now days. The installation automatically install a lot of extra software and services, it takes time to clean it up and make it efficient.
Same principal applies to Android, what makes the Tablet slow is the google apps and all the extras that are not need it. The Tablet is just a Linux laptop with a touch screen.
Look at this guide of ROM Reducer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-rom-reducer-for-more-ram.3954026/
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No, Android 4.x uses an old kernel, Android 7.1 and newer are built with a newer kernel providing better support for the hardware and software.
Android is not the native operating system for the Tablet, earlier version of Android had issues than with the time was improve.
It all depends on the settings and how is set up, but newer OS provides better support. Software is what makes the hardware to work.
Devices are not mechanical machines that works on the principal of physical parts, but works on code, software.
Check this guide and see that all ROMs have the same settings, optimized to use the full 1GB of RAM and CPU speed plus swap partition.
Any original ( stock ) Android ROM can not provide the same settings even if the user try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-max-1gb-ram-max-1836-frequency-for-all-roms.3973149/
It all depends on how that laptop is setup and the drivers installed.
If the laptop is used with all the bloatware ( extra software ) and outdated display drivers, it can not be use.
A Windows 10 installation that has all the unnecessary software remove ( which is a lot ) will provide the basic to support the hardware of a 10 or 15 year old PC and performs very fast with even just 4GB of RAM. What makes the PC slow is all the extra Task ( background process ).
The same applies to any Linux OS now days. The installation automatically install a lot of extra software and services, it takes time to clean it up and make it efficient.
Same principal applies to Android, what makes the Tablet slow is the google apps and all the extras that are not need it. The Tablet is just a Linux laptop with a touch screen.
Look at this guide of ROM Reducer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-rom-reducer-for-more-ram.3954026/
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So you are saying the EV 7.1 build is as fast as CM11? (both same settings, no Gapps)? I really don't see how that can be the case. I have had A 7 on an old Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Nexus. On both devices, Android 4.4 (CM11) was quite a bit faster than the Android 7 builds (LOS 14.1). Ultimately, KitKat (2014) was made for the devices of its time, which were much less powerful than the devices of 2017, when Nougat launched. It makes sense that KitKat would thus run better on outdated hardware. Granted, those were native Android devices, but I think that should still apply to this touchpad, which is running an old Qualcomm CPU.
Anyway, once this boots, I'll test both JCSullins' CM11 and the EV 7 to see what is better. The only issue I really see with using 4.4 is the lack of Aurora Store, since that requires Lollipop at minimum. However, apkmirror should do fine for the few apps I need to install. YouTube Vanced 14.21.54 will work on KitKat as well.
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So you are saying the EV 7.1 build is as fast as CM11? (both same settings, no Gapps)? I really don't see how that can be the case. I have had A 7 on an old Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Nexus. On both devices, Android 4.4 (CM11) was quite a bit faster than the Android 7 builds (LOS 14.1). Ultimately, KitKat (2014) was made for the devices of its time, which were much less powerful than the devices of 2017, when Nougat launched. It makes sense that KitKat would thus run better on outdated hardware. Granted, those were native Android devices, but I think that should still apply to this touchpad, which is running an old Qualcomm CPU.
Anyway, once this boots, I'll test both JCSullins' CM11 and the EV 7 to see what is better. The only issue I really see with using 4.4 is the lack of Aurora Store, since that requires Lollipop at minimum. However, apkmirror should do fine for the few apps I need to install. YouTube Vanced 14.21.54 will work on KitKat as well.
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Is all about the settings and how is set up by the user and that applies to all devices, PC, smartphone even cars or anything !
You can see it with your own eyes, take a look at my youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKoir6bzzPU-Uq9UjcRR3hw
On this guide all the optimize settings are applied to all the ROMs to make them work the same.
I know there is a lot to read, but is 10 years of development.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
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"@HP_TOUCHPAD , Hello, I still can't believe we have support for the touch pad....
The touch pad was dead a long ago and I revived it back today, "
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How did you revive your TouchPad??? Mine will not power on - there are no lights when charging. I have even replaced the battery with no difference.
Any Help is truly appreciated!
deegge said:
How did you revive your TouchPad??? Mine will not power on - there are no lights when charging. I have even replaced the battery with no difference.
Any Help is truly appreciated!
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Use original charger or equivalent.
Tablet must be in a warm environment of 80F. ( it won't take charge in the cold )
Check that the USB port is not damage, try the wireless charger if available.
Try to apply the de-brick process:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-debrick-linux-live-cd.4189245/