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I have a Software this changed a palm in the way you can used your human body for gps antenna. somebody here he can fixed the software for xda - tomtom.navigator? then for car navigation you need no more gps antenna
I realize English is probably not your native language, but that's about impossible to understand. Here's my best guess:
Is there a way to receive GPS signals without a GPS receiver?
No, there is not. Not possible. On any device.
this is possible. i have the software for palm
ok time to show us then me thinks
No, it's not possible. Period. That's all.
the period you can download here
http://www.palmgps.de/#freegps
The Name is FREEGPS!v1.00a
I have to agree with Carlos, as a gps user and having some knowledge of how gps systems work i.e. you have to have a a gps antenna capable of picking up the signals. Please someone prove us wrong, and I'll eat humble pie.
make download and read the manuel
i am german. ther is written this soft works on palm without gps antenna
here you can translated www.freetranslation.com
I can't read German.
I have $1000 that I'll give to the first person that can demonstrate the reception of GPS position signals without a GPS receiver/antenna.
I don't care what software you use, you're not going to receive a GPS signal without the appropriate hardware. Simple as that. You have to be a special kind of stupid to believe that software can create a signal from nothing and interface with a human body. :roll:
Isn't this the programme which claimed to be able to use GPS through IrDa? )))
everybody (lame) was waiting for it, then it turned out it said "Hold me with screen 90 degrees towards ground" and drawn an Arrow with message "You are here" )
i find the page and read this
today everything is possible. i have no palm to try this
No, everything is not possible. It is not possible to channel radio signals through the human body to a non-existent interface.
FreeGPS! v1.00a (c) 02/y2k Stefan Hendricks / www.palmgps.de
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FreeGPS! ermöglicht Ihnen die Ortung Ihrer aktuellen geographischen Position
mit einer Genauigkeit von wenigen Zentimetern - und das OHNE zusätzliche
Hardware.
Wie funktioniert's?
Die Elektronik der Palm-PDAs ist relativ empfindlich für Erdmagnetfelder.
Dies macht sich dadurch bemerkbar, daß gewisse Prozessorregister in Abhängig-
keit der Einwirkung des Erdmagnetfelds autoamtisch bestimmte Werte annehmen.
Da das Erdmagnetfeld auf jedem Punkt der Erde anders ist, werden die ermit-
telten Werte mit einer internen Datenbank abgeglichen. Durch statistische
Annäherung der gemessenen Daten an die aus der Datenbank ist somit eine abso-
lut exakte Ermittlung Ihrer Position (oder besser der des PalmPilots) inner-
halb kürzester Zeit möglich (die Messung erfolgt bereits bei Programmstart
und läuft im Hintergrund, während Sie noch im Startbildschirm verweilen).
Die interne Datenbank ist hochkomprimiert und enthält dennoch genügend Daten
um eine Positionsermittlung auf jedem Punkt der Erde durchführen zu können.
In der Betatestphase haben ca. 60 Personen Ihre genaue Position mit einer
Genauigkeit von über 97% messen können - weltweit. Unter anderem wurde in
folgenden Gebieten getestet:
Deutschland, Belgien, Norwegen, Schweiz, Korsika, Spanien, Colrado, Texas,
Mexico, Kalifornien, Japan, Indien, Marokko, Chile, Kasachstan, Nepal sowie
Ungarn (und noch einige mehr die mir jetzt nicht einfallen...).
FreeGPS! v1.00a ist in dieser Version noch Freeware. Wenn Ihnen das Programm
gefällt dann bedenken Sie bitte, daß Sie hierdurch die Anschaffung eines
(sehr viel ungenaueren) GPS-Empfängers erspart haben - das sollte Ihnen als
Gegenleistung zumindest eine eMail mit Ihren Erfahrungen wert sein. Diese
würde ich auch gerne auf der FreeGPS! Website (Ihr Einverständnis vorausge-
setzt) veröffentlichen.
Schreiben Sie an: [email protected]
Mehr zum Thema PalmPilot und GPS erfahren sie auf
http://www.palmgps.de
That's nice, quote the entire damn page that we can't read anyway. The point would be...?? I have no clue what it says, but if it says you can get GPS signals without a GPS receiver, it's wrong. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
This is getting silly :!:
The gps signal is what .2watts or somethink like that, a gps antenna cannot SEE the signal through ONE inch of water, because the signals are so weak, it's amazing it works at all, it wouldn't if the antenna was not so finely tuned to the spacific signals being beamed down. Ergo whatever this says, it will not work! I'll match the $1000, with is about £650, so doesn't feel as hard on the pocket!!!
A load of good old-fashioned baloney, I say...
The German text speaks of how the Earth's magnetic field is different in almost every location, and how when you compare the values measured ('the electronics of Palm PDAs is very sensitive to magnetic fields') to the values stored in a database, you'd get centimeter accurate positioning.
Just imagine, they launched all these expensive satellites, and it was this simple all along.
Have you seen the app which turns your XDA into Microwave saber? It just raises power output on the antenna and cuts anything which gets within 10 centimeters from it!
Download at http://www.14ms0s7up1d.com
Yup, a quick whip up of babelfish lets you get a relatively simplistic explanation of how this program is supposed to work.
According to the bit of text, because of the Palm's sensitivity to earth magnetic fields (remarkable!), it is possible to construct a database consisting of the various magnetic fields across the globe so that this database can be utilized to retrieve coordinates as to where the PDA actually is (it's not actually using the GPS technology at all...).
Of course, the possibility of this actually WORKING is slim (though according to the site it does work), and certainly won't work on anything other than a Palm... how sensitive are these things anyway?!?
I guess the "theory" behind the whole thing could be debated - from a laymans/non GPS professionals standpoint it *sounds* OK - but yeah... sounds a bit dodgy to me.
@ronny007
In my opinion ther are only two possible explainations of your post:
1) maybe you really believe what you are saying (or read somwhere) and i hope for yourself you don't
or
2) you tried to fool us all (but remember it's not the 1st of April today)
Fidl
The world is an insane place...
Anyone knows XDA III available? where to buy?
Thanks
If you are so excited with the article, MobilMania.cz posted, then I'm sorry to disappoint you. NEVER believe czech websites! I read the article till the very ending - there are some really stupid mistakes - it looks like author knows nothing about XDAs! The rest looks like he invented it himself and it doesn't have much to do with XDA 3. That's a pitty... Solution of the keyboard is nice and I really hope something like this will be applied at XDA 3, but time has not come... not yet... :wink:
looks liki it's not a BS
http://www.tekguru.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=21061
But I am also not planning to get one. I htink that XDA2 has way better design IMHO
I agree with you. I think that the use of the keyboard will make the xda3 too long to fit in one hand and also ridiculous to use.
XDA3/ The only interesting thing
Hi guys. in my opinion, what should be build in in the yet still to be released version in europe is EDGE and/or (CDMA) compatibility, as i'm not ready to shell out again good money only for a new "revamped" XDA ,even with sliding keyboard and enhanced battery life, which would'nt even be also compatible with the coming new mobile services (even in France) to be launched at the end of Q4, at the latest. This should'nt be very difficult as these features are already available on the chinese model (at least CDMA)
I'm also not ready to buy again Qtek in France without a real proper and much more straightforward and regular access to french language rom upgrades, as i think that when you shell out good money close to 1000 euros you deserve proposer official support!!
Thanks, I think it good if they provide Wi-Fi.
Yes i forgot
socheat said:
Thanks, I think it good if they provide Wi-Fi.
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Sorry i forgot to add this one; In fact i think they have already build this feature in the chinese released model.
Arnaud
T-Mobile will sell MDA II on september
Hi,
there is a message that t-mobile will sell in Germany the MDA III on september.
Have a look at heise-news:
(sorry, it's in German!)
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/48653
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Handy-PDA mit ausziehbarer Tastatur
Handy-PDA mit Tastatur und WLAN: der MDA III
Mit dem MDA III will T-Mobile ab September eine weitere Version der erfolgreichen Handy-PDA-Kombination anbieten. Der Nachfolger des MDA II stammt ebenfalls vom taiwanischen OEM HTC und ist mit einer kleinen Qwertz-Tastatur ausgestattet, die sich bei Nichtgebrauch hinter das Gehäuse des Funk-PDAs schieben lässt. Einige Sondertasten unter dem 240 × 320 Pixel großen Touchscreen erleichtern die Bedienung des Pocket-PC-Systems. Wie schon beim Vorgänger kommt Windows Mobile 2003 in der Phone Edition zum Einsatz.
Auch bei den kabellosen Verbindungen hat der MDA III zugelegt. Dank des integrierten WLANs (IEEE 802.11b) verbindet er sich mit lokalen Funk-Netzwerken und Hot-Spots mit bis zu 11 MBit/s. Die übrige Ausstattung gleicht weitgehend dem MDA II: Einem 400-MHz-XScale-Prozessor stehen 128 MByte SD-RAM und 64 MByte Flash-Speicher zur Seite. Auch ist ein SDIO-fähiger Slot für MMC und SD-Cards vorhanden. Als Mobiltelefon funkt der MDA III sowohl in europäischen D- und E-Netzen als auch in nordamerikanischen 1900-MHz-GSM-Netzen. Telefonieren lässt sich mit der Handy-PDA-Kombination wie mit einem gewöhnlichen Handy, über die eingebaute Freisprechfunktion oder über ein Bluetooth-Headset. Via Bluetooth nimmt der Pocket PC auch Kontakt zu anderen Rechnern auf, etwa zum Austausch von Adressdaten.
Eine videofähige Kamera knipst Bilder in VGA-Auflösung (640 × 480), die man als MMS-Nachrichten oder E-Mail-Anhänge versenden, oder per Bluetooth, IrDA oder USB auf einen PC übertragen kann. Der Akku des MDA III soll gegenüber seinem Vorgänger eine um rund 25 Prozent vergrößerte Kapazität besitzen und so länger ohne ein Ladegerät auskommen. Einen Preis nannte T-Mobile für das Kombigerät, das im vierten Quartal mit dem E-Mail Push-Dienst von BlackBerry ausgeliefert werden soll, bislang nicht.
(rop/c't)
Translation of heise-news (by babelfish.altavista.com)
Handy PDA with extendable keyboard Handy PDA with keyboard and WLAN: the MDA III With the MDA t-mobile wants to offer a further version of the successful Handy PDA combination to III starting from September. The successor of the MDA II comes likewise from the taiwanischen OEM HTC and is equipped with a small QWERTZ keyboard, which can be pushed with nonusage behind the housing of the radio PDAs. Some special keys under that 240 × 320 pixels large Touchscreen facilitate the operation of the pocket PC system. Like already with the predecessor Windows mobile is used 2003 into the Phone edition. Also with the slack connections the MDA added III. Owing to the integrated wl to (IEEE 802.11b) it connects itself with local radio net works and Hot Spots with up to 11 MBit/s. The remaining equipment resembles to a large extent the MDA II: 128 MByte SD-RAM and 64 MByte Flash memory stand for a 400-MHz-XScale-Prozessor to the side. Also an SDIO able Slot for MMC and SD Cards is present. As mobile telephone the MDA transmits III both in European D and e-nets and into North American 1900-MHz-GSM-Netzen. To telephone a Bluetooth Headset leaves itself with the Handy PDA combination as with a usual Handy, over the inserted free speech function or over. Via Bluetooth that takes up pocket PC also contact to other computers, approximately for the change of address data. A videoable camera knipst pictures in VGA dissolution (640 × 480), which one dispatches as mm SN oh arranging or appendices of E-Mail, or by Bluetooth, IrDA or USB transferred to a PC can. The Akku of the MDA III is to possess increased capacity opposite its predecessor one around approximately 25 per cent and get along so longer without a battery charger. T-mobile for the combination equipment, which was to be delivered in the fourth quarter with the E-Mail Push service by BlackBerry, did not call a price so far. (rop/c't)[/u]
as i understand it them it's not xda3 so far it's only tmobile who are selling them
so where you can get one would be a question for tmobile near you
I've just got a this Ameo as a replacement from T-Mobile because the previous one had got a faulty camera.
I found that there must be having another problem. It can't detect the signal as it could be.
I have had an experiments with other 2 phones, Orbit and V1640
- 0 Metre from the wireless router
Orbit , V1640 --> Full Scale
Ameo -> Receive signal level 2 (from 4)
- 6 Metres
Orbit, V1640 --> Level 2-3
Ameo --> counldn't even detect wireless signal
Tested with various ROMs but the results were the same
- WM5 T-mobile
- WM6 TM and HTC
- Project Black PK3
Have tried with PHM to stop CPU scalling but didn't work either.
Does anybody have another other advice? Plssss
I don't wannt to fight against T-Mobile on this issue once again which was happened last time when I had got a blank screen camera
In this case, I might need to go back to wm5.
Moreover, WM6 Black Project has changed the T-Mobile Splash Screen to a cool one.
I'm afraid T-Mobile might not be happy when they have it pre-tested.
Can anyone also guide me where can I download T-Mobile WM5 Rom?
parnrong said:
I've just got a this Ameo as a replacement from T-Mobile because the previous one had got a faulty camera.
I found that there must be having another problem. It can't detect the signal as it could be.
I have had an experiments with other 2 phones, Orbit and V1640
- 0 Metre from the wireless router
Orbit , V1640 --> Full Scale
Ameo -> Receive signal level 2 (from 4)
- 6 Metres
Orbit, V1640 --> Level 2-3
Ameo --> counldn't even detect wireless signal
Tested with various ROMs but the results were the same
- WM5 T-mobile
- WM6 TM and HTC
- Project Black PK3
Have tried with PHM to stop CPU scalling but didn't work either.
Does anybody have another other advice? Plssss
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Hi
You havn't mention which version of the radio is in the Ameo. I use 1.50 and works fulscale at 1m and 1-2 at 25m. Signal strenth will be depend on the surroundings (in your case you have three devices next to each other) and your router's performance. Where you provide more details more help you get.
Good luck
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Device: X7500 with AP Touch PK 3.0 + Addons, Radio 1.50,
CE OS 5.2.1933 (Build 18533.0.7.0)-PK
RealVGA @128 DPI
SDHC 4 GB Micro SD with Mini adapter
Network : Virgin300/300
Softwares: SPb Phonesuite, Spb Backup, Spb Diary, Spb Traveller, Spb Wallet, Spb Finance, Spb Insight, Resco explorer 2007 6.16, and Tomtom 6.030.
try disabling security and adding a mac filter list with the devices you wish to connect to your router. I found that this boosted my Ameo's range extensively.
sabes143 said:
Hi
You havn't mention which version of the radio is in the Ameo. I use 1.50 and works fulscale at 1m and 1-2 at 25m. Signal strenth will be depend on the surroundings (in your case you have three devices next to each other) and your router's performance. Where you provide more details more help you get.
Good luck
6.030.
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I have tested with 1.45 and also the latest one Version 1.50
and the results were the same.
( In my sense, I don't think that radio rom is controlling wifi hardware)
Router setting:
- No security setting is applied
Thanks for the advice, Sabes143
leoni1980 said:
try disabling security and adding a mac filter list with the devices you wish to connect to your router. I found that this boosted my Ameo's range extensively.
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Router Configurations:
No security setting is applied : Open , Disable security
As shown in the left picture,
0 metre (placed just next to the router)
Ameo detect signal at just level 2 from 4
And the boot screens can easily be flashed back to the Orig. T-Mobile pix. Do a search you'll find the files you need.
Madhadder said:
And the boot screens can easily be flashed back to the Orig. T-Mobile pix. Do a search you'll find the files you need.
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Thanks Madhadder
Yes i found how to change the splash but WM5 is still the issue though
Poor Wifi Ameo / Athena
I am afraid about the poor Wireless and poor GPS in this Device. I changed the device 3 times there are differences at every device but its more or less poor because of poor technical design i think. Complainig at T-Mobile has had no success they cannot do anything.
They offered me to give the money back.
This coud be the greatest Device but not with this poor Funktions.
Thomas
I fully agree. Poor wifi performance seems to be a 'built in feature'.
4 mtrs away from the range extender I only get level 2.
Disabling security made it better.
Dieter
Did you try going to Wireless Lan settings and change the Power Mode to Best Performance? That has helped me, I think...
g.
wgary said:
Did you try going to Wireless Lan settings and change the Power Mode to Best Performance? That has helped me, I think...
g.
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For me: YES
Dieter
Guys you might want to try different channels on the wireless router. See if the defice works better on the lower channels, as it does best for me on channel 6 on my Netgear router. Play with the various channels instead of leaving it set to auto, also make sure you are detecting your router access points and not the neighbors. Just my 2 cents.
Poor wifi
we should complain at T-Mobile. I rent a Ameo from T-Mobile to test. Wifi was better but GPS the same. It seems there are wrong Series or they want to Push the use of GPRS/UMTS
Wir sollen mal bei T-Mobile demonstrieren. Ich hatte mal ein Leihgerät. Da war Wifi o.k. GPS war auch schlecht. Es sind glaube ich fehlerhafte Serien oder man will GPRS/UMTS fördern.
Thomas
bit117 said:
we should complain at T-Mobile. I rent a Ameo from T-Mobile to test. Wifi was better but GPS the same. It seems there are wrong Series or they want to Push the use of GPRS/UMTS
Wir sollen mal bei T-Mobile demonstrieren. Ich hatte mal ein Leihgerät. Da war Wifi o.k. GPS war auch schlecht. Es sind glaube ich fehlerhafte Serien oder man will GPRS/UMTS fördern.
Thomas
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Don't agree with that.
Hardware is identical on each version of the 7500 (which includes the Ameo). Have erased any T-Komiker piece of software and installed installed PK 3.0
Wifi is still as bad as before.
Dieter
dieterpapa said:
Don't agree with that.
Hardware is identical on each version of the 7500 (which includes the Ameo). Have erased any T-Komiker piece of software and installed installed PK 3.0
Wifi is still as bad as before.
Dieter
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Have you tried different Radios? I use my Ameo in UK with Orange (though that should make no difference ) and was having big problems with GPS fix times. No real issues with WLAN, though I'm never more than about 5m from my Router
The GPS problem was fixed for me by reverting to Radio 1.47, and there has been no adverse effect in any other Radio features. Going back to 1,50 as a test resulted in the GPS going back to being unusable, and I've tried the full HTC WM6/Radio 1.50 ROM, plus PK3 and a separate Radio ROM.
Currently, although still not as fast as my Orbit2, the GPS gets a cold fix in 1-2 minutes, which is faster than my Trinity.
I've radio 1.50 installed but didn't play around with the versions. The reason is very simple: I had to install range extenders within my house to cover all rooms with PCs - therefore I get a connection with my Ameo everywhere now...and on business trips I use connection via UMTS.
GPS I didn't use yet - have a built-in system in my car.
However, when AP 4.0 is sometimes available I'll upgrade radio as well.
dieter
please help me connect my S3 to Blackberry BIS , there is an app called ibluever for ios that worked perfectly. what am trying to do is use my blackberry internet connection on my s3 via bluetooth.
thank you
Get a wifi hot spot app for your BB. Besides your problem concerns your BB more than anything android related. Google it
Sent from my buttery smooth S3
HI folks,
I buy this unit yesterday, still waiting shipment
ON ebay put this
2DIN 7" Autoradio DVD HD Touchscreen DVD Android WiFi GPS 2G SD Karte Asien NEU
I can't post links since i'm a new user.
I 've been reading the ouku thread, but it seems that this unit it's not the same, anyone knows something aboput this unit?
Where i can get updates, or more info?
Thank you very much!