Does what I specified in the title exist these days?
Looking for such a 5g phone which will work well on the T-Mobile network.
Google, OnePlus and Mototola phones come to mind, but I don't know for sure what phones might take a custom ROM such as Lineage without being permanently "damaged" by an efuse.
Anyone know of good links to articles or discussions with information about what models of 5g phones which will not be harmed (permanently lose capabilities) by a custom rom?
Thanks
Afaik there's no efuse installed inside Google and OnePlus devices, you can flash any custom ROM on it and no capabilities will be lose
I've heard that that more than just Samsung phones now have an efuse where you permanently loose features like the ability to use hidden folders and android pay etc.
I wish I could find a blog/article/post which explains what phones do and don't have this evil efuse feature. I don't have the money to research it all by myself.
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i am buying a new phone, the S8+ to be exact, and there have been a lot of new developments (problems) when it comes to rooting your device. i've been rooting my smartphone devices for over 10 years because i love the freedom it brings (er, brought). Now i read things like Netflix, Snapchat, and AndroidPay not working on rooted devices. So i am wondering what people's experiences have been like. Any regrets? Are the trade-offs worth it to you? Is it worth being able to uninstall bloatware and install custom ROMs if a lot of other features and apps will stop working? i know most of this is personal preference but would like to know more about what other people have experienced.
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i am buying a new phone, the S8+ to be exact, and there have been a lot of new developments (problems) when it comes to rooting your device. i've been rooting my smartphone devices for over 10 years because i love the freedom it brings (er, brought). Now i read things like Netflix, Snapchat, and AndroidPay not working on rooted devices. So i am wondering what people's experiences have been like. Any regrets? Are the trade-offs worth it to you? Is it worth being able to uninstall bloatware and install custom ROMs if a lot of other features and apps will stop working? i know most of this is personal preference but would like to know more about what other people have experienced.
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First and foremost, if you plan on getting a US variant, meaning it will have a SD835 in it, Root is unlikely to come soon for it, This doesn't mean it won't happen, just not soon. Now if we're talking international, the ones that ship with an Exynos in it, they're rootable now.
Now, with that out the way let's get into the questions you've asked. There will indeed be a selection of apps that will not work when rooted these days because of "SafetyNet" check failure. Some of the biggest would be Snapchat and Android pay, However they will work with the assistance of Magisk which will allow SafetyNet to pass it's check, Same goes for most apps that fail to work because of root presence.
Heading back to what I first mentioned now, Rooting a Samsung device of recent years comes with some pretty notable cons to it, These would include loss of KNOX, I'm not sure what your stance on security is but if security is a concern to you, losing KNOX is not good. Another big and notable con is you will lose all Samsung pay support permanently, Actually to be honest both of the latter are permanently lost once rooted. If these things aren't a concern for you then by all means root away.
On to other things now, Rooting these days doesn't present as many attractive things as it use to, especially on a Samsung device. Most OEMS have given alternatives to many of the things a user couldn't do without root before. Currently there is no Xposed on Nougat and above, it's being worked on but there is no foreseeable date that can be given on when it will be completed.
So all in all, Until root is achieved for the Snapdragon variants, I'd hold off on a purchase of an S8. If we're talking Exynos variants then by all means get one, as I've said they're rootable right now. But don't let that be the ray of sunshine, though they're rootable, They're in infact an Exynos and Samsung is unwilling to provide source code to their Exynos chipsets. Which basically means to you that custom ROMs will be limited to rehashes of the stock ROMs with a couple mods if possible, AOSP such as Lineage and others like it are next to impossible to happen on Exynos without a source code to work from. It has been done before but the resulting roms took a long time to develop and either were extremely buggy or were just simply not usable for daily use.
I'm pretty sure I've hopefully covered every aspect I could but if you've got any more questions I'll surely answer them.
I apologise for this being so long lol.
Perfect. Thank you, this helped a lot.
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Perfect. Thank you, this helped a lot.
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Glad I could help, Again sorry it was a lengthy response but it was necessary to cover all of it.
Hello everyone, I plan to buy a S9+, so I have some questions about the S9+
Should I buy the Exynos or Snapdragon variant ? (those two model cover the band of my provider)
If I trigger Knox, can I still use apps like Snapchat, Pokemon Go, Google Pay... ?
When Knox is tampered, what apps will no longer works ?
Does some applications not provided by Samsung verify the Knox state ?
Thanks
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Hello everyone, I plan to buy a S9+, so I have some questions about the S9+
Should I buy the Exynos or Snapdragon variant ? (those two model cover the band of my provider)
If I trigger Knox, can I still use apps like Snapchat, Pokemon Go, Google Pay... ?
When Knox is tampered, what apps will no longer works ?
Does some applications not provided by Samsung verify the Knox state ?
Thanks
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When knox is tampered functions like Samsung pay,secure folder stop working.Other apps will work flawlessly,Not sure about google play.Roms are more for exynos version,Although snapdragon will have better support for Android in future.Gcam works better on SD
I'm dealing with similar issues. Sorry, the information isn't very concise or clear. I think there are a lot of people giving advice who don't really understand the technical issues.
If you are going to break Knox and the international (Exynos) supports all of the LTE bands of your provider, I'd recommend it. There are far more choices for ROMs because it has an unlocked bootloader.
The Snapdragon variant can reportedly be unlocked through a paid service. I'm not sure if that trips Knox. Extreme Syndicate allows rooting without tripping Knox, but I've been unable to verify whether it will work on newer bootloaders. (Someone help!!)
Google's SafetyNet fails if Knox is tripped. Pokemon Go, specifically will not work. I'm not sure about the other 2, but I have read that Google Pay works while Samsung Pay can never work again. Someone please correct me if this is inaccurate.
In general, you will have problems with secure apps like banking, etc., but there are work-arounds for some of them.
A program that I use and the only reason for my concern, Boomerang Parental Controls, uses Knox to increase security. It's unclear whether it will continue to function fully if Knox is tripped.
Any program could be coded to check the Knox state, but they generally will not unless there is a need to. The banking apps and other secured apps are generally looking for system tampering because it might lead to failed security measures.
Hope this helps.
The days of rooting is over, from my S2-S8+ there where numerous roms but for my S9+ there is less than a handful. Is it because of Knox or something else? or maybe because of all the themes that are out. If it is due to Knox, Sammy have fulfilled their objective with it, what do you lot think.
Knox is the same between the two models, rooting permanently trips it.
I'd guess part of the problem with the unlocked rootable models is no one upgraded from the S8+ because it wasn't a big jump.. less developers using them equals less roms..
While the number of total ROMs have gone down, there's still a fair selection to choose from in the S9/S9+ cross-device development forum. But to answer your question, I'm sure the US variants of the S9+ having locked bootloaders halted a lot of potential development for the device.
Since there is the knox sdk that now allows us things to do like dns firewall, systemwide adblock, disable nearly all unwanted apps.. For me there is no real need for root anymore.
I only miss a few apps (titani um backup, game g uardien) but I can live with that..
What do you need root for?
It is not over yet because we have gsi's to flash and have the whole pixel experience etc.
I'll have the chance to buy this phone for 160€. Normally I investigate around if the community enjoys the phone if there's development for it in custom roms and what's the status on the bootloader but it's getting complicated.
From what I've heard, Huawei stopped offering the chance for unlocking the bootloader for its phones, it is still possible with this one? If yes, completely? Can we do whatever we want or are we limited? I've browsed and seen treble support for it, is it working well? If you are using a P20lite with a treble rom, what works and what doesn't for you?
I'll still be looking for info to my own questions and even more but if you have some spare minutes, own the phone and have the answers I'm looking for, care to help please?
If it's worth it? For that price and as of right now, definitely yes. It's a well built phone for the price, the glass on the back is a bit bad of course in terms of durability but allows for better network possibilities which plastic does not. In terms of ROMS and recoveries the phone already has them which at this time is amazing, although development always depend on the true developers that stay up to date and that give their best to keep projects up to date.
Boot loader is a problem as of right now for those who have no key to unlock it. There is some paid software that can do it like Funky Huawei and others...Although I think Huawei might change it or find a better solution to developers trying to develop some ROMS to their phones. Huawei only does this because of security since Android is full of vulnerabilities and they are not risking to lose against other companies like Apple.
Once you have a boot loader unlock code, yup you are free to do anything on your phone
As for the treble ROM's, in my humble opinion I think they have a lot to evolve right now due to bugs (talking in general, not only for our device), I think they are good alternatives to normal ROM's though, simpler to install and smoother.
What works and doesn't work you can see it at github, I can give you a link for a treble ROM created by phhusson developer at github https://github.com/phhusson/treble_experimentations/releases/tag/v108, look on the issues tab if you have any issues yourself. I personally love his work.
Resuming, it's still a perfect deal since the phone only launched a few months ago at 400 euros.
Although if you want full control of your phone and at the same time receive a lot of updates I honestly recommend Nokia - Android One phones
You probably already know but, don't let Chinese phones fool you, their build quality sucks, they might have more a bit powerful but after 1 or 2 years it's dead
Cheers,
AS
Hi everyone,
let me preface this with saying that I have searched for similar threads to avoid redundant threads, and I didn't find anything similar to this. I apologize in case I somehow missed it and am accidentally making a duplicate thread. That said, let's continue.
I recently got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S. I really love the hardware - it's pretty good for its price; the battery capacity is high, I like the 90Hz refresh rate and the AMOLED screen, decent storage capacity, and the 33W fast charging is really cool too.
The software, however, is another story. Firstly, there is a lot of bloatware. Various stores, games, etc. that I never asked for. And even worse, secondly, on every corner there is a privacy violation. Every time I clicked on a different app, I needed to accept a different user agreement, privacy policy, or something similar. The camera app literally requires an internet connection and yet another ToS agreement to use. And I've looked into such an agreement to see what they do, and apparently they reserve the right to look at your screen's displayed contents. What. The. F-
I would really like to use this device as it is an upgrade over my current phone, but man, I'm not using it with the default software. For this reason I came here to ask about which custom ROMs are good for my purposes. I would like something that has few invasive features and other spyware, and is also relatively open for customization and such as I like to be in control of the hardware I own.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
I have yet to find a device specific ROM for this phone. Apparently they're hard to develop because the chip manufacturer (Mediatek) doesn't release their source code? You could try a GSI but that's beyond my skillset.
To make me feel a bit better about my privacy I've used Debloater to uninstall the bloat that I don't want on the phone at all. I then use AFWall+ to block the apps that I want to use but don't trust from accessing the internet.
Note that this requires rooting your phone, but that's straightforward these days.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I'm new to the community. Could you please explain me what a GSI is?
Those things sound like a good idea for the time being. I'll look into them when I have more time. As for rooting, I'm sure there's countless of guides out there. If you know a good one I'd appreciate it, but I'm sure that out of everything, this is the one thing I'll easily manage myself.
Though while this is a good temporary solution, I still feel uneasy about it as it's not necessarily specific apps, but the OS itself that does the spying, so I think I'll wait and see if someone else replies with more suggestions. Perhaps someone in this forum is some kind of custom ROM genius. Despite that, I really appreciate your reply and not getting judged for being new. Have a nice day/evening/morning (depending on your time zone).
A GSI is a Generic System Image - basically it's a ROM that isn't tailored to a specific device, but will broadly work on any device. However this means that it's likely to be a little bit buggy on most devices. I don't know much about GSIs, but I'm sure there are threads on here.
I believe that the only Android 11 GSI that is still maintained is the Google GSI. You'd want the aosp_arm64_ab build for this device I think. I have no idea how well this would work, I don't even know how you'd flash it!
This is my guide for rooting this phone, it's pretty straightforward I think, once you've got the bootloader unlocked.
Root POCO M4 Pro 4G (fleur) using Magisk
Rooting the POCO M4 Pro 4G (fleur) turned out to be quite straightforward. Note, I have a 2201117PG (EEA), you may have a different experience, it's not my fault if you brick your phone etc. Backup before you start as this will wipe your phone...
forum.xda-developers.com
Well, if - as it seems - the device support GSI builds, you can go with \e\ (aka deGoogled-Lineage):
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No custom rom due to mediatek chipset , should have bought snapdragon device
Aj_$tyle$ said:
No custom rom due to mediatek chipset , should have bought snapdragon device
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BTW Generic System Images works on *any* treble-compatible (= Android 8+) SoC...
forart.eu said:
BTW Generic System Images works on *any* treble-compatible (= Android 8+) SoC...
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GSI has bugs in poco m4 pro
Aj_$tyle$ said:
GSI has bugs in poco m4 pro
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What bug?
Aj_$tyle$ said:
GSI has bugs in poco m4 pro
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Please report @ \e\ community then:
GSI
Find details about the work done and progress made on Generic System Image (GSI) for /e/ in this section.
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Gliese 832 c said:
Hi everyone,
let me preface this with saying that I have searched for similar threads to avoid redundant threads, and I didn't find anything similar to this. I apologize in case I somehow missed it and am accidentally making a duplicate thread. That said, let's continue.
I recently got a Xiaomi Redmi Note 11S. I really love the hardware - it's pretty good for its price; the battery capacity is high, I like the 90Hz refresh rate and the AMOLED screen, decent storage capacity, and the 33W fast charging is really cool too.
The software, however, is another story. Firstly, there is a lot of bloatware. Various stores, games, etc. that I never asked for. And even worse, secondly, on every corner there is a privacy violation. Every time I clicked on a different app, I needed to accept a different user agreement, privacy policy, or something similar. The camera app literally requires an internet connection and yet another ToS agreement to use. And I've looked into such an agreement to see what they do, and apparently they reserve the right to look at your screen's displayed contents. What. The. F-
I would really like to use this device as it is an upgrade over my current phone, but man, I'm not using it with the default software. For this reason I came here to ask about which custom ROMs are good for my purposes. I would like something that has few invasive features and other spyware, and is also relatively open for customization and such as I like to be in control of the hardware I own.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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The most privacy friendly rom is GrapheneOS but it only supports Pixel devices sadly.