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I spent $20 on these Jabra headphones that had great reviews... it is actually quite good but the max audio is kinda low than i expected! (With SRS or Dolby or one of the equalizers...)
Surprisingly the Rs. 200 headphones (approx. $2.5) that i bought here have a much higher output! But obviously i hate the build of that one...
Which headphone would y'all recommend that you've used and have gotten loud sound out of 'em - like enough to cancel out any external noise...
Speaking of... I also got the Jawbone Icon bluetooth but am really disappointed by the low audio playback on it... it is extremely low - totally not worth listening to music on unless you're in a quiet room! I tried a reset of the bluetooth device and more as suggested on forums but still poor performance... Anyone here using that bluetooth?
If you want it loud and still be able to get some noise from the outside (what you need if you ride a bike while listening to music):
http://www.amazon.com/Koss-PortaPro...P4ZH/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1290772270&sr=8-1
They look oldschool and the sound virtually boosts you away
or the Sennheiser PX 100 - 2
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-10...4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1290772336&sr=1-4
or for really closed (you wont hear anything from the outside) you might try:
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PX...2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1290772438&sr=1-2
It's a matter of taste. Best thing is to go into a store and try all of them!
My Sennheiser PX 200 sound awesome with my mozart and has pretty high sound volume... I highly recommend them indeed!
There are rumours of two major updates early next year, supposedly for CES in January and MWC in February.
WP7 does seem to have an awkwardly low max volume, I can see this being easily fixed in one of those updates (since I believe OTA updates haven't been sorted out yet). Don't blame it purely on the headphones.
Personally, I would go for the in-ear earphones for noise isolation. I picked up the Logitech Ultimate Ears 100 earphones at a local **** Smith in Australia for $30, they function rather well (just that complex sounds are often muddy).
I would like a decent bluetooth stereo headset that I can listen to music with and make and recieve calls on with this device. I've already tried the Motorla S10's and jaybird freedoms.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...38355&skuId=1326039&st=motorola s10&cp=1&lp=1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/JayBird...8316933151&skuId=2264036&st=jaybird&cp=1&lp=4
Moto has a decent mic, but poor audio and bad signal range. However call's were serviceable.
The jaybirds have sensational audio clarity and quality (better on the iPhone though. Just sounds cleaner. dunno why?) and the bass is rich and crisp. Some of the best bud audio I've heard well...ever. Even rivals my klipsch S4i's *Only works on apple :-(*
Now for the bad. Calls are the worst I've ever expirenced! audio is muddy, the other end always complains I sound distant and traped in a far away restroom, audio cuts in and out and the volume in call is too low. Just horrid experience altogether that mares the device of its exceptional BT headphone feature.
And I would like ideally a headset with good range ~12-20ft from device. a decent battery cycle *8-12Hrs.* and has a good noise canceling mic and good audio quality for music and calls.
Does such a device exist? My budget is $80-150
Thanks in advanced.
I use the Sony mw600. Pretty decent has FM radio and connects 3 different bt devices easily.
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I use the Sony mw600. Pretty decent has FM radio and connects 3 different bt devices easily.
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Thanks for your input, I'll look into it.
I'm thinking of getting these instead.
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...W21Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1319387500&sr=8-9
Anyone can comment on them?
Jaybirds has been fantastic for me.
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Jaybirds has been fantastic for me.
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I just think the sound quality and the mic suck for phone calls. :-/ which is disappointing. but the sound quality for music and such is nearly on par with my beats studios, although not as clear or loud. and they almost replicate the same timber/clarity of the klipsch S4i's they replaced. (best buds I've ever owned/used/seen) though there's a little distortion at higher volume levels. and I don't feel like they get as loud as I'd like.
i'm using my Sony Ericsson HBH-DS980 from 2007, great headset, no problems at all, even battery ok after 4 years of use.
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Sony Ericsson Bluetooth devices are awesome. I have been using the hbh ds205 for years this is my second one my wife put the first one through the wash it still worked but the battery didn't hold a charge after that.
Anyways the great thing about it is you can use it for anything and use any headphones you want with it. I use my sennheiser ie7's.
It has all the controls...play pause volume up down skip track answer calls. Battery last like 8-10 hours of continuous playback.
I clip it on my shirt and work all day long with it. Clip it on my jacket and listen to tunes while I'm riding my motorcycle. Get in my car plug it in to the auxiliary cable, samething at home. Just got a portable speaker for cell phones so I can plug it into that and listen wirelessly. That's why its so great it makes everything wireless.
I don't think they make this model anymore but there is new versions. I'm gonna upgrade sometime because this little device is so awesome.
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Thanks for the feedback. funny thing is my jay birds worked flawlessly today, no distortion and no call issues... only thing I did different was calibrate my battery on the phone and flash the updated matted blues theme for serendipity.... strange.
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I use the Sony mw600. Pretty decent has FM radio and connects 3 different bt devices easily.
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I just ordered these I will let you know how they are when I get them.
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I just ordered these I will let you know how they are when I get them.
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I appreciate that and await your feedback. I'm planning to rock the jaybirds for a bit before I switch to something else. Hope to hear back from you soon.
I'm heavily leaning toward...
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...W21Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1319387500&sr=8-9
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I just ordered these I will let you know how they are when I get them.
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Will also vouch for the MW600
Work great with my NUFORCE earphones!
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I appreciate that and await your feedback. I'm planning to rock the jaybirds for a bit before I switch to something else. Hope to hear back from you soon.
I'm heavily leaning toward...
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson...W21Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1319387500&sr=8-9
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it's on sale today for $60 if you go straight through J&R.
http://www.jr.com/sony-ericsson/pe/...are&SiteID=lw9MynSeamY-89XmBak/az52Ew9Taw0m0A
In terms of Voice Call Quality, the Plantronics 903+ are top notch. I also have the Jaybird Freedoms (best sound quality IMHO) as well as the Sony Ericsson MW600 which I like for the ability to plug in any Headphones I wish. I haven't heard many issues with the MW600 for the audio quality though.
I was told that the Jaybirds has a bit of a tinny sound when I talk on the phone though, bit of a downside (granted after my workout at the gym, I can't seem to find them, not too happy about that.) The Jaybirds battery life will not be the best in any way shape or form, you do pull off about 5 hours, which isn't bad, but nothing like the MW600 which get up to 11 hours.
The MW600 is not the best for working out in my opinion, no sealed ports and not water resistant/sweat resistant. The Plantronics 903+ isn't sweat resistant either contrary to what you read online, but it is durable. I have shorted out 6 pairs with the amount of sweat I have when working out. I even have shorted out a Motorola S9 which is supposed to be sweat resistant as well. Just my $0.02 take them as you wish.
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I would like a decent bluetooth stereo headset that I can listen to music with and make and recieve calls on with this device. I've already tried the Motorla S10's and jaybird freedoms.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...38355&skuId=1326039&st=motorola s10&cp=1&lp=1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/JayBird...8316933151&skuId=2264036&st=jaybird&cp=1&lp=4
Moto has a decent mic, but poor audio and bad signal range. However call's were serviceable.
The jaybirds have sensational audio clarity and quality (better on the iPhone though. Just sounds cleaner. dunno why?) and the bass is rich and crisp. Some of the best bud audio I've heard well...ever. Even rivals my klipsch S4i's *Only works on apple :-(*
Now for the bad. Calls are the worst I've ever expirenced! audio is muddy, the other end always complains I sound distant and traped in a far away restroom, audio cuts in and out and the volume in call is too low. Just horrid experience altogether that mares the device of its exceptional BT headphone feature.
And I would like ideally a headset with good range ~12-20ft from device. a decent battery cycle *8-12Hrs.* and has a good noise canceling mic and good audio quality for music and calls.
Does such a device exist? My budget is $80-150
Thanks in advanced.
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In terms of Voice Call Quality, the Plantronics 903+ are top notch. I also have the Jaybird Freedoms (best sound quality IMHO) as well as the Sony Ericsson MW600 which I like for the ability to plug in any Headphones I wish. I haven't heard many issues with the MW600 for the audio quality though.
I was told that the Jaybirds has a bit of a tinny sound when I talk on the phone though, bit of a downside (granted after my workout at the gym, I can't seem to find them, not too happy about that.) The Jaybirds battery life will not be the best in any way shape or form, you do pull off about 5 hours, which isn't bad, but nothing like the MW600 which get up to 11 hours.
The MW600 is not the best for working out in my opinion, no sealed ports and not water resistant/sweat resistant. The Plantronics 903+ isn't sweat resistant either contrary to what you read online, but it is durable. I have shorted out 6 pairs with the amount of sweat I have when working out. I even have shorted out a Motorola S9 which is supposed to be sweat resistant as well. Just my $0.02 take them as you wish.
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Thanks for the feedback!
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Jaybirds has been fantastic for me.
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I have had the same experience with the JayBirds as the OP. Good bluetooth speakers... horrible call quality. People couldn't understand me, complaining that I was muffled. I took them back after 2 days.
I am also looking for a good set of stereo bluetooth headphones, to use both in the car and the gym, and will be following this thread closely.
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Anytime. I have been playing more with the MW600. In the end, there is no "perfect" bluetooth headphones for everything. When I'm at work I use my MW600, and when I am biking/working out I use my Jaybirds.
My MW600's came today and I was able to get a quick 20 mile ride in with them. So here is a quick review.
My first impression was wow is this thing small. With out headphones the unit is about 2.5 inches long and about .5 wide. The clip is not the greatest but seemed to hold on tight enough.
The headphones that came with it just looking at them I would say they are not the greatest design. The are not the "Standard" Y design with the plug on the bottom and the L & R ear buds at the top. Instead the plug and L ear bud are on the top and the R ear bud the bottom. This makes the L ear bud rather short. Tossed them right away.
Pairing could not have been easier. Pretty much standard Turn the unit on, Turn on BT on the phone tell it to look for devices and then pair it up. After pairing I turned the headset off for a hour and then turned it back on and it did pair right up again so no problems there.
The Unit
The controls will take a bit of getting use to. Pretty much anywhere you touch it you are going to be touching a control surface. Looking at the headset with the LED screen facing you and headphones on top the volume is on the left, ff, play/pause, and rw are on the left. On the top of the front face is the call button with a mic right above it and at the bottom above the Micro USB port is the power.
The volume will take a bit to get use to as well. it is not a physical button but a touch surface that is not all that sensitive (in the end I think this is a good thing.) you turn it up or down by running your finger over the surface in the direction that you want it to go. To go to full volume or min volume it takes a couple of swipes of your finger or you can press and hold at the top or bottom to up and down.
FF, Play/Pause, and RW seem to work fine and it is not a problem to use them.
I have not had a chance to place or get a call yet so can not speak to how well the call button works or the sound quality. I will post as soon as I get a chance to use the headset for a call.
Sound Quality.
I did not test the headphones that came with it so I can not speak to them. I used a pair of headphones that came with my Captivate (could not find my better Skulls at the time.) I would not say that the sound was out of this world but it was pretty good for using a pair of headphones that came with a phone. Did not get any distortion at the level that I had it, no popping not hissing. Would not say that the sound was deep and rich but it was good.
The Extra's
One of the nice things about this unit is that you can use use a high end set of headphones with out a mic because the unit has a mic built in. So if you have a really good set of headphone I would use them.
FM Radio worked good. was able to pull in the radio station that I listen to all the time and it came in very clear. To the FM radio you hold down the play/pause button until 2 little icons display on the LED then use the play/pause button again to select what you want. I did not try it but I do not think that you can listen to the radio and the use the headset for calls at the same time.
Over all I like the headset it has good sound and with a good set of headphones I think it will be even better. Pairing could not be any easier and once paired held the pairing very well. I did not get any interruptions when I went over bumps that I did get with other BT headsets. I do not think that working out with the headset will be a issue seeing that it is clipped to the outside of my shirt I would have to get a REALLY good sweat going to for it to affect the unit but seeing as it is 45 degrees here right now the proof will have to wait until I get in the gym.
At this point the only con I have is the controls. Like I said it is really hard to handle the unit with out touching one of the controls (Most often volume) but again I think that it is pretty much a matter of time before I "learn" how to handle it with out touching something.
On a scale of 1-10 I would give the headset a solid 8
If you can still find them, Homer HHS1220 I believe was the BEST bang for the buck a few years ago. Legitimate 12 hour battery and pretty comfy to wear.
Alucardis666 said:
I would like a decent bluetooth stereo headset that I can listen to music with and make and recieve calls on with this device. I've already tried the Motorla S10's and jaybird freedoms.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Motorol...38355&skuId=1326039&st=motorola s10&cp=1&lp=1
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/JayBird...8316933151&skuId=2264036&st=jaybird&cp=1&lp=4
Moto has a decent mic, but poor audio and bad signal range. However call's were serviceable.
The jaybirds have sensational audio clarity and quality (better on the iPhone though. Just sounds cleaner. dunno why?) and the bass is rich and crisp. Some of the best bud audio I've heard well...ever. Even rivals my klipsch S4i's *Only works on apple :-(*
Now for the bad. Calls are the worst I've ever expirenced! audio is muddy, the other end always complains I sound distant and traped in a far away restroom, audio cuts in and out and the volume in call is too low. Just horrid experience altogether that mares the device of its exceptional BT headphone feature.
And I would like ideally a headset with good range ~12-20ft from device. a decent battery cycle *8-12Hrs.* and has a good noise canceling mic and good audio quality for music and calls.
Does such a device exist? My budget is $80-150
Thanks in advanced.
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I bought the Phiaton PS 20 BT stereo headset ($125 at Newegg) about a month ago. The sound quality is great, on both music and calls. Distance, to me, is impressive. Built-in battery charges via USB, and battery life has been good for me.
The microphone is the only thing that's a bit finicky. Some people tell me that it sounds like I'm on a wired headset. Others tell me it sounds like I'm in a tunnel. The problem boils down to what shirt I'm wearing! If I have button-down shirt or a breast pocket, then it's easy to dial the mic in for great sound. But if I'm wearing a t-shirt ... forget it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875969002
How would you rate the Z2 active noise cancelling?
Would be my ONE buying argument.
Thx
G.
gue22 said:
How would you rate the Z2 active noise cancelling?
Would be my ONE buying argument.
Thx
G.
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10 points on a scale of 10.At work a loud machine is producing a monotonous noise,this is reduced to approx. 10 % of its original level by the active noise cancelling without music on,only insert the earbuds and switching on the phone kills 90 % of this noise.After you switch on the music you can barely hear the monotonous noise.Only one of many reasons to buy this fantastic device.
brouwerchris said:
10 points on a scale of 10.At work a loud machine is producing a monotonous noise,this is reduced to approx. 10 % of its original level by the active noise cancelling without music on,only insert the earbuds and switching on the phone kills 90 % of this noise.After you switch on the music you can barely hear the monotonous noise.Only one of many reasons to buy this fantastic device.
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Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
gue22 said:
Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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Noise cancelling works with supplied earbuds MDR-NC31EM,two microphones in the earbuds feed the noise cancelling software in the Z2,
I don't know if there are more headphones available working with this system,the 3.5 mm jack should have 5 instead of the standard 3 rings.
With my Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth on-ear headset the Z2 sounds great,only without the noise cancelling.
I've tested it on my office with AC and at home with centrifuge in the other room (washing machine).
Unfortunately, I can't say I'm impressed with the results. Need more testing tomorrow...
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I'd give the active noise cancelling a 9 out of 10 when paired with the Sony MDR-NC31EM headphones. With the volume turned up to a normal level I can't hear myself typing on my keyboard, or doing the dishes, or my cat meowing for treats, or my wife talking, or pretty much anything other than my music unless I reeeally listen for it. The sound quality of the NC31EM isn't the best, but it's far from the worst. It's definitely better than any headphones that came with previous cell phones. Before I got my Z2 I refused to use noise cancelling because I thought it unnecessarily tampered with the sound quality and would only wear my Grado 325, Ultimate Ears TripleFi 10, or Shure SE530 headphones. The Z2 & NC31EM is a very good combo for most listening occasions.
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Thanks a ton!
Does anyone have comparative experience with the Bose Quiet Comfort 3 (on ear) or 20i (in ear)?
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I have QC15, which is similar to QC3. I haven't had a chance to test them side by side on a plane after purchasing of this phone.
However, in day-to-day life, z2 and QC15 produce similar results as far as I can tell. To be honest this is the only reason why I thought about buying Z2 and switching to android from an iPhone.
I first thought tgis thread is about the microphone noise cancelling when I call someone
For me both work just fine.
The headphones are small and cant perform like a bose but for those small earbuds I give them a 9 of 10.
They cant cancel (completely) the noise of train or a loud street but for music it works fine
brouwerchris said:
Noise cancelling works with supplied earbuds MDR-NC31EM,two microphones in the earbuds feed the noise cancelling software in the Z2,
I don't know if there are more headphones available working with this system,the 3.5 mm jack should have 5 instead of the standard 3 rings.
With my Sennheiser MM100 bluetooth on-ear headset the Z2 sounds great,only without the noise cancelling.
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Before release I read that one would have to buy the MDR-NC31EM (a fourth contact on the 3.5 mm jack for the second mic) as an extra, but I guess competitive pressure made them appear out of the box! <g>
Don´t know of any other special headset like that.
Think Sony spilled the marketing beans on this feature. Almost no reviews mentioned this unique feature, and when they did, then practically only in passing.
Anyone who has a commute on public transport should check out active noise cancelling headphones! I love ´em. Filter out ambient noise and loud people with idiotic conversations. <yippih!>
jeremy.shi said:
I have QC15, which is similar to QC3. I haven't had a chance to test them side by side on a plane after purchasing of this phone.
However, in day-to-day life, z2 and QC15 produce similar results as far as I can tell. To be honest this is the only reason why I thought about buying Z2 and switching to android from an iPhone.
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I´ve been owning the QC3 for almost two years and they are great.
I was a bit p*ssed when the cable developed a problem after a little more than half a year, but when I hit the right guy at the local Saturn / Mediamarkt here they swapped it without a tone. (The incompetent one before told me we´d need to return the whole gadget set and my answer was: "No, you will have to pry the QC3 from my cold, dead fingers. I rather buy a cable at whatever Bose price!" And you know that´s quite a statement! <rofl>)
For this summer I bought QC20i and was awed that the in-ears cancel out more than the on-ears!!!!! I only hope the cabling lasts longer than that of the IE2 I owned before!
So Sony lost out for now, but I may "need" another Android gadget soon. Who knows... <g>
House of Cards said:
I first thought tgis thread is about the microphone noise cancelling when I call someone
For me both work just fine.
The headphones are small and cant perform like a bose but for those small earbuds I give them a 9 of 10.
They cant cancel (completely) the noise of train or a loud street but for music it works fine
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Actually - as said above - the Bose QC20i in-ears cancel out a lot more than the QC3 on-ear ones with the passive dampening advantage. And the QC3 sound a bit murky while the QC20i got brilliant heights even WITH active noise cancelling -- which is said to hamper quality.
And they QC20i work w/o NC with a dead battery. Well, they oughta, cuz you can´t swap the battery. The teeny tiny spare battery for the QC20 was 50 bucks!
So the jury is out again who will be the next winner.
Guess the QC20 will earn their keep as double-duty ear warmers for winter.
The QC20i for the rest of the time for ALL mobile gadgets.
The Z2 waiting in the wings as a possible replacement for the iPhone. (Watch out, Apple!)
Or the next gen with Bluetooth AND active noise cancelling.
Having fun
G.
Problem is I don't get any noise cancellation. For example, now I hear crickets. Putting earphones in my ears and having phone detect and use NC, nothing has really changed. I've tried both NC modes (one with music sign and one without)... turned on youtube video, still nothing. The only benefit is from earphones actually being in my ears, but the same effect I get with regular $40 earbuds like QuadBeat 2.
I wish if I could somehow test if there is maybe a problem with my earbuds, but so far - effect is nonexistent.
I never owned any noise cancelling headphones before the Sony MDR-NC31EM so i can't compare.
They don't cancel out every small noise. So if i am home and there it is relatively quiet i don't notice much difference when enabling the noise cancellation on the z2.
However if the TV is running, driving by train etc. the difference is huge. It can still be heard but it is not annoying anymore when hearing music.
at work with some normal monotone cooling sound from PCs the noise is also nearly completely reduced.
I am not sure but i think the noise cancellation does not work very good for a higher pitch noise. So maybe your crickets do make a too high pitch.
Also one thing i once noticed was when the train door closed with a very loud bang i got a loud crack sound on my headphones which was not really great and really frightened me in that moment. I guess that was just too loud and suddenly to cancel out.
I would say for the price it is a definitive 10/10 if you own the Z2. But i am not sure if more expensive headphones can cancel more.
Using it with my notebook however does not work as it seems it cancels the played sound out again.
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Problem is I don't get any noise cancellation. For example, now I hear crickets. Putting earphones in my ears and having phone detect and use NC, nothing has really changed. I've tried both NC modes (one with music sign and one without)... turned on youtube video, still nothing. The only benefit is from earphones actually being in my ears, but the same effect I get with regular $40 earbuds like QuadBeat 2.
I wish if I could somehow test if there is maybe a problem with my earbuds, but so far - effect is nonexistent.
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If you don´t immediately hear the difference on a plane or train or tram there is something wrong.
Crickets are not exactly the best example. Low frequency continuous street noise is it, not the single car.
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However if the TV is running, driving by train etc. the difference is huge. It can still be heard but it is not annoying anymore when hearing music.
at work with some normal monotone cooling sound from PCs the noise is also nearly completely reduced.
I am not sure but i think the noise cancellation does not work very good for a higher pitch noise. So maybe your crickets do make a too high pitch.
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I would say for the price it is a definitive 10/10 if you own the Z2. But i am not sure if more expensive headphones can cancel more.
Using it with my notebook however does not work as it seems it cancels the played sound out again.
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TV is a still better use case than anything else. If I don´t want to be distracted by some series my girl friend watches I put on the Bose, turn on music and turn away from the TV -- and I got my island.
Guess it would take a lot more processing power to catch the higher frequencies and the higher I guess they are harder to match and cancel out.
Interestingly the in-ear QC20i dampen most, but I don´t think they dampen (much) more than what I heard from a very brief test with the Sonys.
What goes for the Bose QC20i is the above use case: Hook ´em up to anything / the notebook and cancel out the anything else / TV. You can´t do that with the Z2 buds.
But the QC20 are almost half the price of a Z2.
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But the QC20 are almost half the price of a Z2.
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Thats not true.
At least here in Germany if i look up the QC20 they cost 279 € !!! compared to 38 € of the Sony headphones.
Ohh i see you meant the Z2 itself. Sorry. I was talking only about the headphones supported for the Z2. Of course the phone itself is more expensive.
So far I had no result with:
- air conditioner
- crickets
- street noise (typical city noise coming from the outside, I don't expect it to cancel police/ambulance, but noise certainly)
- friend's PC cooling (my PC is silent under 30dB)
- blue switch mechanical keyboard typing
- coffee shop
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what else to test?
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So far I had no result with:
- air conditioner
- crickets
- street noise (typical city noise coming from the outside, I don't expect it to cancel police/ambulance, but noise certainly)
- friend's PC cooling (my PC is silent under 30dB)
- blue switch mechanical keyboard typing
- coffee shop
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Are you sure you have the noise cancelling headphones with the Model-Name "MDR-NC31E" ?
Because there where headphones in my package. But they didn't supported noise cancellation and had a different model name.
beowulf6 said:
Are you sure you have the noise cancelling headphones with the Model-Name "MDR-NC31E" ?
Because there where headphones in my package. But they didn't supported noise cancellation and had a different model name.
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I hope I don't look that dumb... :cyclops: - yes, of course, MDR-NC31E. Even the phone auto puts those in "noise cancelling headset" mode. There are two icons then (3). ON, ON with ♪ next to it and OFF.
Check this, not even this is reduced. Not a tiny bit. http://www.coffitivity.com/
Strange? Disappointing...
First and foremost, a note to the mods:
I'm asking a question about V30 accessories, so I wasn't sure where to post this thread. If I chose, wrong, then please forgive me and move it. I'm really sorry!
Now for the question:
I want a good sounding in-ear earbud for my V30. I have a decent set of cans, but they aren't very portable and I want a a good set of earbuds too. I mostly listen to rock and metal and prefer flat sounding headphones (I think... I don't like the bass overpowering the vocals and I don't use any equalizers in my music player app... so, flat?).
I can't afford much, but $150 is the most I'm willing to spend and have narrowed my choices down to two specific headphones based on reviews here on XDA and Amazon.
The problem is, the headphones have a lot of drastically different specs and now I'm super confused on what to buy.
Choice 1 is the SoundMagic E80C
https://soundmagicheadphones.com/products/soundmagic-e80c-in-ear-isolating-earphones-with-mic
(scroll to specifications)
It has- compared to Choice 2- a lower frequency range (15Hz - 22KHz), but a higher sensitivity (102dB) and impedance (64 Ohms).
In fact, I bought them already and like them, but wondering if Choice 2 would be better.
Buyer's remorse combined with confusion of headphone spec meanings. UGH!
Choice 2 is the 1More Quad Driver Headphones
https://usa.1more.com/products/1more-quad-driver-in-ear-headphones
(Again, scroll to Specs)
It has- compared to Choice 1- a higher frequency range (20 - 40,000Hz), but a lower sensitivity (99dB) and impedance (32 Ohms). On top of that, it has 4 drivers and is THX certified (if that means anything with the V30).
Now, here's the reason for my confusion. Everyone here on XDA and many other sites are praising the V30's Quad-Dac, but say that it won't kick in under 50 Ohms. This is making me believe that higher impedance is better, so I need Choice 1 (why I bought it). However, audiophile websites are saying something like (based on my understanding) higher frequency is better and so is sensitivity. This is making me wonder if Choice 2 is actually better for me because the sensitivity is only slightly lower than Choice 1, but the frequency is almost double of Choice 1. They say too that bigger drivers aren't necessarily better, so... Choice 1 again?
So, after hours of research, buyer's remorse (wondering if I made the correct purchase), and my brain frying from confusion, I ask my fellow V30 owners:
Can you help me make a buying decision? Did I make a good decision and should keep the SoundMagic E80C, or should I return them and pay more for the 1More Quad-Drivers?
This decision needs to be based on the music I listen to and I don't want bassy headphones intended for hip-hop, rap, etc.
Thank you, Community and I look forward to seeing what you all have to say.
SOUND MAGIC E80: Superb, for in-ear headphones*. There may be something to the idea that higher impedance headphones have better sound quality by virtue of higher intensity magnetic field produced by more wire turns, e.g. better damping & control, faster response, etc. (E80 has 64 Ohm impedance, relatively high for in-ears and enough to trigger the V30 high impedance mode.)
The "C" suffix means some form of inline controls, there is (or was) also an "S" suffix model denoting inline controls. I got the version without inline controls, the E80.
On the other headphone with quad drivers: I tried a 1More triple driver, and the sound was muddy. My guess is that multiple drivers may introduce problems with intermodulation and also crossovers if those are used. Just a guess. Haven't tried the quad driver version, but after finding the E80, I have no need to.
(* In-ears have their own drawbacks, including effect on audio quality related to placement and seal in the ear, and "microphonics" aka noise conducted to the headphone from mechanical movement of cables. I accept those issues as the trade-off for the advantages of in-ears for use while exercising etc. The cable noise can be reduced by looping the cable over the ear.)
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I have both and prefer the Soundmagic by far.
Whichever earbuds you get, don't forget to easily root that phone(Magisk necessary), use WhiskeyOmega's mod for utilizing the advanced Dac preset always and installing Viper4Android.
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Whichever earbuds you get, don't forget to easily root that phone(Magisk necessary), use WhiskeyOmega's mod for utilizing the advanced Dac preset always and installing Viper4Android.
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I'm not interested in rooting and last I checked, the ATT variant isnt rootable. (See edit) I rooted the V20 and found it to have been a complete waste of my time. It just didnt add anything useful for me.
I also had installed Viper4Android on the V20 and the Play Store kept disabling it because it thought it was malware or something. It was SUPER annoying to deal with on a daily basis and don't want to deal with it on my V30. Plus, I don't need it anyways since I said I don't use equalizer settings and prefer the settings to be flat. It sounds better that way. It sounds like how the bands intended their music to sound. (At least I feel that way)ñ
Edit: I think I'm wrong. I guess all variants except the T-Mobile one have root now? Still not interested though.
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SOUND MAGIC E80: Superb, for in-ear headphones*. There may be something to the idea that higher impedance headphones have better sound quality by virtue of higher intensity magnetic field produced by more wire turns, e.g. better damping & control, faster response, etc. (E80 has 64 Ohm impedance, relatively high for in-ears and enough to trigger the V30 high impedance mode.)
The "C" suffix means some form of inline controls, there is (or was) also an "S" suffix model denoting inline controls. I got the version without inline controls, the E80.
On the other headphone with quad drivers: I tried a 1More triple driver, and the sound was muddy. My guess is that multiple drivers may introduce problems with intermodulation and also crossovers if those are used. Just a guess. Haven't tried the quad driver version, but after finding the E80, I have no need to.
(* In-ears have their own drawbacks, including effect on audio quality related to placement and seal in the ear, and "microphonics" aka noise conducted to the headphone from mechanical movement of cables. I accept those issues as the trade-off for the advantages of in-ears for use while exercising etc. The cable noise can be reduced by looping the cable over the ear.)
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bilbo60 said:
I have both and prefer the Soundmagic by far.
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Thanks you two!
I think I'll keep the Soundmagic E80C's. After thinking about things a bit more (and reading opinions), the E80C's seem to be a better deal. They sound great, but cost less than the 1Mores do. So more bang for the buck I guess.
e80 are not flat, they are quite bright and unbalanced and they lack bass like any other soundmagic E-series out there.
1more quad on the other side are as flat as inear headphones cand be, are balanced and have superb sound stage. they are not harsh on highs (like 1more triple are). they are not muddy or warm or bright, they sound almost like my monitor speakers i have on the desk which i can asure you that they are as flat as any speakers can be.
but if you prefer soundmagic, i think that you might not know what flat sound is...
i tried e10, e50, e80 and decided to spend more money and get something that has more quality because my years really hurt and not even a week on them couldn't get used to the very bright sound they have, which did not happen when i was using 1more quad.
i don't even know how you compare these two because the 1more is almost 4 times more expensive than e80...
if you want something that really sounds good you should also look at Shure SE846
and seach whathifi forum because here, on xda, i had arguments with people saying that there is no difference between bluetooth and wire...
and another mistake you made is that in the audiophile world you cannot speak of "bang for the buck" because you cannot find the best cheap ones out there, it's simply like this: if you want quality, you pay because if you buy something that is cheaper you cannot get the sound of a high quality earphones by using cheapr ones and apply some "tricks" on them, you just have a lower quality sound. (quality can be described in may aspects, some even call themselves audiophile and praise the "extra bass" sticker on some sony boxes)
but many people out there do not understand this.
iRS_ said:
e80 are not flat, they are quite bright and unbalanced and they lack bass like any other soundmagic E-series out there.
1more quad on the other side are as flat as inear headphones cand be, are balanced and have superb sound stage. they are not harsh on highs (like 1more triple are). they are not muddy or warm or bright, they sound almost like my monitor speakers i have on the desk which i can asure you that they are as flat as any speakers can be.
but if you prefer soundmagic, i think that you might not know what flat sound is...
i tried e10, e50, e80 and decided to spend more money and get something that has more quality because my years really hurt and not even a week on them couldn't get used to the very bright sound they have, which did not happen when i was using 1more quad.
i don't even know how you compare these two because the 1more is almost 4 times more expensive than e80...
if you want something that really sounds good you should also look at Shure SE846
and seach whathifi forum because here, on xda, i had arguments with people saying that there is no difference between bluetooth and wire...
and another mistake you made is that in the audiophile world you cannot speak of "bang for the buck" because you cannot find the best cheap ones out there, it's simply like this: if you want quality, you pay because if you buy something that is cheaper you cannot get the sound of a high quality earphones by using cheapr ones and apply some "tricks" on them, you just have a lower quality sound. (quality can be described in may aspects, some even call themselves audiophile and praise the "extra bass" sticker on some sony boxes)
but many people out there do not understand this.
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As noted, in-ear headphones designed to seal against the outer ear canal are very sensitive to fitment and seal. This is one of their drawbacks, and also produces widely varying opinions about any given headphone model.
I can produce a wide range of response (audio quality) with the E80 and any other headphone of this type simply by adjusting the fit, and also by using different tips. The bass is especially affected.
Even when a good fit and seal is obtained, the fit tends to loosen with use and user movement, one must periodically reseat the headphones to restore the seal.
Also, even if a tip produces a good seal, it may produce inferior audio quality compared to another tip, depending on headphone and individual user ear canal shape. For example, the Comply tips produce inferior sound quality in my ears compared to the base silicone tips of the E80. I suspect because the Complys have a longer and thinner opening "duct" and more absorbent material, which veil more of the driver, constrict airflow more, and absorb more sound energy than the silicone tips.
The E80 produce excellent response across the frequency range for me with the large silicone tips, when firmly seated just-so. If they are not seated just right, the quality suffers, just like all other sealing type in-ears. I'm comparing to two good standalone stereos and also other headphones.
No offense, but the Shure line is typically poor quality audio. They roll off at about 16-18kHz, producing noticeably dull sound compared to decent headphones. They made their name in professional monitors, which are intended for reliablility and durability, for use by performers, not high fidelity.
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As noted, in-ear headphones designed to seal against the outer ear canal are very sensitive to fitment and seal. This is one of their drawbacks, and also produces widely varying opinions about any given headphone model.
I can produce a wide range of response (audio quality) with the E80 and any other headphone of this type simply by adjusting the fit, and also by using different tips. The bass is especially affected.
Even when a good fit and seal is obtained, the fit tends to loosen with use and user movement, one must periodically reseat the headphones to restore the seal.
Also, even if a tip produces a good seal, it may produce inferior audio quality compared to another tip, depending on headphone and individual user ear canal shape. For example, the Comply tips produce inferior sound quality in my ears compared to the base silicone tips of the E80. I suspect because the Complys have a longer and thinner opening "duct" and more absorbent material, which veil more of the driver, constrict airflow more, and absorb more sound energy than the silicone tips.
The E80 produce excellent response across the frequency range for me with the large silicone tips, when firmly seated just-so. If they are not seated just right, the quality suffers, just like all other sealing type in-ears. I'm comparing to two good standalone stereos and also other headphones.
No offense, but the Shure line is typically poor quality audio. They roll off at about 16-18kHz, producing noticeably dull sound compared to decent headphones. They made their name in professional monitors, which are intended for reliablility and durability, for use by performers, not high fidelity.
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yet you spoke only about the sealing which is important indeed, but i was speaking about the drive capabilities of the earphone itself asuming perfect sealing.
even so... for my ears the 1more quad has the best seal and i never need to refit them even when i am out with my bike or running.
foam tips never give a good seal but they are a little more comfortable over long periods of time (several hours)
if the fit tends to lose it might mean that the e80 are not for your ears and you should try to find some other that do not have fitting problems.
professional studio monitors are not made with reliablility and durability being the first in mind but the sound reproduction to be as flat as possible which helps the sound producer to hear and correct the mistakes he made during composition.
every standalone stereos have colorised sound compared to studio monitors which are flat.
i was trying to make a point in flat sound because that si what op was asking for.
if you are saying that shure se846 are low quality earphones and e80 are superior in terms of sound quality, then... we have a problem.
which, unfortunately, you cannot correct.
it is curious how you say that foam tips produce lower quality sound because of the sealing problems...
what you hear is not lower quality sound because you are using them in a way they were not supposed to. you need that good sealing!
it's not the size of the duct, or the asbsorbing material, it's the sealing.
out of curiosity, what are the speakers you compared to and the other decent headphones?
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yet you spoke only about the sealing which is important indeed, but i was speaking about the drive capabilities of the earphone itself asuming perfect sealing.
even so... for my ears the 1more quad has the best seal and i never need to refit them even when i am out with my bike or running.
foam tips never give a good seal but they are a little more comfortable over long periods of time (several hours)
if the fit tends to lose it might mean that the e80 are not for your ears and you should try to find some other that do not have fitting problems.
professional studio monitors are not made with reliablility and durability being the first in mind but the sound reproduction to be as flat as possible which helps the sound producer to hear and correct the mistakes he made during composition.
every standalone stereos have colorised sound compared to studio monitors which are flat.
i was trying to make a point in flat sound because that si what op was asking for.
if you are saying that shure se846 are low quality earphones and e80 are superior in terms of sound quality, then... we have a problem.
which, unfortunately, you cannot correct.
it is curious how you say that foam tips produce lower quality sound because of the sealing problems...
what you hear is not lower quality sound because you are using them in a way they were not supposed to. you need that good sealing!
it's not the size of the duct, or the asbsorbing material, it's the sealing.
out of curiosity, what are the speakers you compared to and the other decent headphones?
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I refer to professional in-ear monitors used by performers on stage, such as made by Shure. These are quite different than headphones used in a studio for mixing and production, which are made for accurate audio.
I have not tried all Shure in-ears, but the ones I tried performed as one would expect judging by the specs indicating complete rolloff at 16-17 kHz. That is completely missing at least the top 4 kHz of nominal human hearing range, and the sound was pathetic. Dull, lifeless.
I suspect that this may be related to the use of heavier materials (for durability), which lower the upper natural frequency response due to greater inertia of moving parts.
I compare with a standalone system using an NAD receiver with Klipsch RF-3 speakers plus Klipsch 15" sub, and another with NAD preamp, AVA amp, and Infinite Slope speakers (no longer in business).
Headphones are a personal preference matter, the disagreements and debates never end. No doubt, many who find dull headphones e.g. Shure that only extend to 17 kHz to be "good", will say that other headphones that extend to 20 kHz and above (upper hearing frequency ranges) are "too bright", To each their own, I prefer to hear the full range including both upper and lower frequencies, of the music.
Best thing to do is buy a few different headphones to try from sellers with good return policies. Then you can decide for yourself.
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I refer to professional in-ear monitors used by performers on stage, such as made by Shure. These are quite different than headphones used in a studio for mixing and production, which are made for accurate audio.
I have not tried all Shure in-ears, but the ones I tried performed as one would expect judging by the specs indicating complete rolloff at 16-17 kHz. That is completely missing at least the top 4 kHz of nominal human hearing range, and the sound was pathetic. Dull, lifeless.
I suspect that this may be related to the use of heavier materials (for durability), which lower the upper natural frequency response due to greater inertia of moving parts.
I compare with a standalone system using an NAD receiver with Klipsch RF-3 speakers plus Klipsch 15" sub, and another with NAD preamp, AVA amp, and Infinite Slope speakers (no longer in business).
Headphones are a personal preference matter, the disagreements and debates never end. No doubt, many who find dull headphones e.g. Shure that only extend to 17 kHz to be "good", will say that other headphones that extend to 20 kHz and above (upper hearing frequency ranges) are "too bright", To each their own, I prefer to hear the full range including both upper and lower frequencies, of the music.
Best thing to do is buy a few different headphones to try from sellers with good return policies. Then you can decide for yourself.
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yes, professional in-ear monitors have a different purpose and i never used a pair. i think that nobody compose music only using headphones and everyone has a pair of monitors which sound very different compared to normal speakers which are made to soung 'good'. that's why i felt a big difference between a dac for audition and a audio interface designed for audio composition (burson conductor and audient id4). i liked the audient more becuse it sounds more natural. i always disable all effects from audio players and drivers.
i have tried only these shures (856) and i liked them (yes, they are a bit warm), nut i like more 1morequad and above all the speakers i have (m3-8)
i have done some tests and i cannot hear much above 17khz and even at this frequency it needs to be really amped to hear it clarly (or the source was bad)
brightness of a headphone doesn't mean that they extend to 20khz or above, it means that the hights are way louder than the rest of the range (i think that you already knew this). i think that what you are trying to say is that every headphone has its own signature and not all humans hear the same, but because of this debate never ends.
one fact is clear, after using the soundmagic for a week i had to sell them because they were literally hurting my ears and had to boy something else.
i do not know if you tried the 1more quad but the sound they produce are more clear and bit warmer than soundmagic (maybe because the highs are not that much amplified) and i can use them for a whole day without having any problems. (yes, same volume for both on modded nexus 5x and then high impedance mode for lg v30)
i also prefer to hear the full range but i do not prefer to sacrifice the lows for more highs.
other courious thought i have is that your audio equipment is way above soundmagic e80 yet you say they sound very good...
Hello friends i want to buy V30 plus because it has DAC, my doubt is whether i can use 32ohms earphone? will this sound good. Because i could see LG V30 plus supporting only above 50 ohms. is it true? please help. i have 1more quad drive earphones which so great in clarity.
P.K.Shivaram said:
Hello friends i want to buy V30 plus because it has DAC, my doubt is whether i can use 32ohms earphone? will this sound good. Because i could see LG V30 plus supporting only above 50 ohms. is it true? please help. i have 1more quad drive earphones which so great in clarity.
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It "supports" all earphones. It will adjust to make any earphones sound good.
Without root only those with about 50 ohms or more will get HIM (high impedance mode). Your can artificially trigger that by adding short 3.5mm accessory impedance plug with any earphones or through root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
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It "supports" all earphones. It will adjust to make any earphones sound good.
Without root only those with about 50 ohms or more will get HIM ((high impedance mode). Your can artificially trigger that by adding short 3.5mm accessory impedance plug with any earphones or through root.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/whiskeyomegas-v30-sound-mods-t3757115
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Thanks dude for the reply.:good:
TinAudio T2. 45$. mind blowing
Personally I think the 1more Triple Drivers are a better value (and sound just as good) as the 1more quads.
Hey everybody! I got my "SoundMAGIC E80S RED Reference Series Flagship Noise Isolating In-Ear Headphones with Microphone and Remote for all Smartphones + Extra eartips" yesterday.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N0U9YMM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So far I'm VERY pleased with them in comparison to the GGMM C800's I was using before:
https://smile.amazon.com/GGMM-Isola...qid=1536606946&sr=1-1&keywords=GGMM+C800&th=1
I actually felt like I NEEDED to get the new headphones because I was having a weird thing with the GGMM's where I couldn't get the volume loud enough even with the volume all the way up and ViPER4Andoid tweaks. It wasn't always that way but has become a recent issue.
Now with these SoundMAGIC E80S ones the sound is SUPER loud. I don't have the Hi-Fi Quad DAC volume set above like 33 and that's already quite loud. Actually this morning I had to tweak the Hi-Fi Quad DAC and ViPER4Android settings because the highs were so clear that it was actually painful. I was using the Magisk module for ViPER4Android 2.5.0.5 but I removed that and put the unofficial ViPER4Android 2.6.0.5 from "Team_DeWitt" in /system/priv-app instead:
https://labs.xda-developers.com/store/app/com.pittvandewitt.viperfx
So far it's working well except that it sometimes crashes and I have to restart it. The 2.5.0.5 Magisk version had problems where it would frequently go to "Processing: No" and I had to reboot to get it working again. This unofficial 2.6.0.5 version seems to have fixed that, which is awesome! Also on the 2.5.0.5 I was having a problem with some Convolver impulse response files (such as SRS_1-1.irs) where the volume would constantly dip for fractions of a second. It drove me nuts and I THINK so far that this 2.6.0.5 has fixed that too!
So anyway these SoundMAGIC E80S headphones are pretty freaking amazing. I needed to tweak the DAC and V4A but right now my ears are in heaven!
So they came today!
I literally went to the registration site at 12:03 (17/10) and put in my phone and supplier details. Got confirmation of the freebies and they have arrived.
Not bad for a 14 day cooling off period.
Ok time for some hard truth.
I'll tell you why they are giving these things away.. It's because they don't really give you higher than 44khz well at least that's what I'm getting from the Dev BT debug info. which keeps reverting to 44khz 16bit.
They DO sit very snug though almost feel like you're wearing nothing. If they could shrink these down to just sit in your ear canal without the extra hardware then that would be something.
AAC @ 44100 which I'm guessing the AAC makes up for in the highs and lows.
I can't force the audio quality to go any better than this. I've tried just setting up to only 2 Bluetooth audio devices but doesn't seem to make this any better.
That being said the quality of the audio is a factor. Find some HQ dolby atmos audio demos and you might be able to apreciate these. You need HQ audio files and not MP3
The Audio is very good don't get me wrong but if you are expecting to get 96Khz at 32bits out of these then forget it.
So Dolby Atmos it is then.
DSEE HX is only for Wired Headphones.
Stick with Wired Headphones if you want true high fidelity. I'll keep you posted once I start walking around with these outside (praying not to get mugged for wearing these) to see just how good the noise cancellation is. Seems to overcompensate in a quiet room so you just need to turn this off or down otherwise you'll hear noise.
and the most no go at this set is u can't change the volume at the speakers....u always have to take out your cell phone and change volume with the phone only
I don't use nc on mine. Or ambient. I crank em up anyway.
I use mine everyday for walking the dog, had em some time. I will say, for my small ears, I surely feel wearing them when walking. And need from time to time to resnug em in, not that I'm afraid I'll loose one, I just loose snugness. This I'll compensate by wearing a beanie. No issues then.
I'll guess, this would eliminate the chances of being muged. Even though, not even worth stealing imo. Way to expensive, to what it is. So being a thief for this, is stupid. ????? So the question is, who would mug you?? Lol whoever must be stupid. ?
What did you pay for the bundle?
In Denmark it was 3336,- Dkk / 495,- US / 445,- EUR with carrier deal ofc. Phone Xperia now alone is stunning 830,- US in Denmark, with a following 300,- us wf 1000 mx3 that's 1100,-+ us. Wtf. Pretty glad got it all for under 500
One of few. Comes from Japan.
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and the most no go at this set is u can't change the volume at the speakers....u always have to take out your cell phone and change volume with the phone only
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Well u don't have to take it out, as button layout is pretty easy,even in case and through pocket. This is one of my least concerns. Why on Earth no LDAC codec for bt. As is Sony's own standard. Hi-res? They got the apple part. And released a Android. Makes sense. On the other hand. The mh version, as this is supposed to mimic, is oem but is far superior, and nothing alike to this iem. With a similar pricetag. I'll even go to my 950n'1s if it came to features. And real life buttons, no touch. Volume controll is the least missing. ? And I'll actually prefer em to my mh, I'd admit, imma basehead, the 950's for oem
Wired I'd use my ah-d7100 but then I gotta carry a dual set fiio combo besides. They are mostly just for looks at the desk. Lol
And I can only use the left one alone. Unless I start paring both. Besides. If I leave on the table, yes I'm like that, don't really care, then the left one will shut off, in 5 min, as supposed if not wearing. The right one will stay alive till draind. Is this just here?
They a supposed to connect to the box, and to what ever. Problem is, I think, they do not. As I can easily leave my case behind.
Sony broke their own codec this time around. ? It was a bundle. ??
No LDAC/ no hi-res
No auto shutoff
No individual listening.
To heavy if not dumbo the elephant
To expensive
Not even starting on the phone it self, ****less fpc. No impressive sound. Dolby atmos. Right. No dark mode on pie??? Like Huawei???? So it continues. Unfortunately.
You can get around. Sure. But it's surely not otb
Still might overall be the best iem nc bt. Or they are. So much room for improvement.
But all this before Volume controll. Hi-res listner has an amp. You'll never controll unless its by hand. ??
But all together, top tier for what's possible, and do count on like 100hours Play in.
Why hate. Sony is true underdog, but not for any fun.
These headphones are some of the best i've ever used. The noise cancelling works great. They don't seem to be suited for heavy music, like Metal, but i haven't played with the EQ yet. But listening to something like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan they sound amazing. They play every detail.
I highly recommend these, good for office use if you want to disconnect from your surroundings for a while.
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These headphones are some of the best i've ever used. The noise cancelling works great. They don't seem to be suited for heavy music, like Metal, but i haven't played with the EQ yet. But listening to something like Pink Floyd or Steely Dan they sound amazing. They play every detail.
I highly recommend these, good for office use if you want to disconnect from your surroundings for a while.
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Surprised to hear that. I find the sound quality underwhelming. Even my old HTC wired earphone sounds better.
I bought it for the noise cancelling though.
maybe not the best but I'm pretty satisfied with this headset,especially the durability of the battery
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Surprised to hear that. I find the sound quality underwhelming. Even my old HTC wired earphone sounds better.
I bought it for the noise cancelling though.
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Sound reproduction is a personal thing however I sincerley fail to see how you find these "Underwelming" I have been buying high end hifi for nearly 50 years and can safely write the Sony's are outstanding and only 'bettered' by the much more expensive Sennheisers. Wired headphones are in a different catagory all together from wirelss. unwise to compare apples with oranges.