is it possible to upgrade the memory inside with more than 128gb? because using the native android 13 move apps to sdcard is unstable. any other tipsto increase storage?
No. Put only apps on the internal memory and all other data on the SD card. Apps should never go on the SD card because of bandwidth limitations.
I corrupted my exFAT32 memory card while writing a single file of 4GB it is not recommended to use SD card unless you move app that you use very often.
Abish4i said:
I corrupted my exFAT32 memory card while writing a single file of 4GB it is not recommended to use SD card unless you move app that you use very often.
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Yeah funny things can happen. I never had a flash memory go corrupt on me unless it was misused in over 15 years and dozens of cards. A good card is very reliable.
blackhawk said:
Yeah funny things can happen. I never had a flash memory go corrupt on me unless it was misused in over 15 years and dozens of cards. A good card is very reliable.
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Try writing a file above 4 GB possibly in .tar format you will see.
Increase Internal Storage .....​Keep Dreaming
Do EMMC Reballing
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Try writing a file above 4 GB possibly in .tar format you will see.
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Never tried it. No reason to. However to load a SD card I transfer over 400gb, largest files being 2gb or so. Largest folder is 242gb. Copy/paste only.
Always do transfer with the card in the phone; don't remove the card to do them. Always format the card in the phone before using. Never share cards with different devices writing to them unless you format it first after the switch. Sometimes, most times you get away with it but it will lead to a corrupted card sooner or latter. Canon cams for one...
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Since android is on the storage card, does that mean that apps that are not developed to be stored on the SD-card is being stored in the SD-card anyways? I.e. will the operating system think that the root of the external memory is the internal memory? Cuz that would be great, having such a low internal memory in the HD2 to begin with..
Luggruff said:
Since android is on the storage card, does that mean that apps that are not developed to be stored on the SD-card is being stored in the SD-card anyways? I.e. will the operating system think that the root of the external memory is the internal memory? Cuz that would be great, having such a low internal memory in the HD2 to begin with..
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That is what the data.img file that is created when you 1st boot is for, it's also stored on the SDCard. After the NAND loader is released, you'll be able to have some that data so that it can be stored on the phone's internal memory, except the kernel last I heard. Right now the only difference between Nand and SD is that nand is a little bit faster, but you can speed up SD card by getting a higher class card, (instead of a class 2, then get a Class 6) the speed that the device boots is noticeably faster.
the data.img file is treated as "internal memory" for program storage. This file is physically located at the SD card but seen as another storage location. Since there are different flavours of this data.img available (512MB,1GB,2GB) you can easily store hundreds of apps without worrying about phone memory limitations or apps who fail to app2sd (in fact, none of the apps will move to sd on my phone, /care) So indeed, the HD2's internal mem is no problem here.
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That is what the data.img file that is created when you 1st boot is for, it's also stored on the SDCard. After the NAND loader is released, you'll be able to have some that data so that it can be stored on the phone's internal memory, except the kernel last I heard. Right now the only difference between Nand and SD is that nand is a little bit faster, but you can speed up SD card by getting a higher class card, (instead of a class 2, then get a Class 6) the speed that the device boots is noticeably faster.
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Got the kingston 16GB Class 10 card, no problems
MrDroopy said:
the data.img file is treated as "internal memory" for program storage. This file is physically located at the SD card but seen as another storage location. Since there are different flavours of this data.img available (512MB,1GB,2GB) you can easily store hundreds of apps without worrying about phone memory limitations or apps who fail to app2sd (in fact, none of the apps will move to sd on my phone, /care) So indeed, the HD2's internal mem is no problem here.
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Thanks, that's awesome.
Though, somehow I see a constant drop inte my 'real' internal memory. I've got a en rom wich i only touch att launch android..
1. I'm a little confused about the phone's memory..
So there is the SD card, and there is the 10gb memory.
If I use clockwork recovery.. and perform a full wipe/reset/factory, does everything in the 10gb internal memory card get deleted?
Or can I keep files in it?
2. Shouldn't we have a question forum about now??
I mean.. its about time.. more and more people are getting the phone everyday.. come on..
AFAIK there are two SD Cards, one come pre-installed from HTC which gave us 10Gb after reverse some 6Gb for the phone/system and the phone identified it as SDCard. The second one will be add-on as per user's option and the phone will identified it as SDCard2 or Ext_Sd card
Perform a full wipe/reset/factory will not delete your files on that 10Gb SDCard and/or the ext-sdcard that you may have had put in
Others may know better and may corrected me if I'm wrong
xologist said:
1. I'm a little confused about the phone's memory..
So there is the SD card, and there is the 10gb memory.
If I use clockwork recovery.. and perform a full wipe/reset/factory, does everything in the 10gb internal memory card get deleted?
Or can I keep files in it?
2. Shouldn't we have a question forum about now??
I mean.. its about time.. more and more people are getting the phone everyday.. come on..
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Your phone has 16 gigs of memory (when they say 16 its usually truly about 14 gigs), about 2 are allocated for installing programs, however their data can be allocated to other places such as the external SD or internal SD. For example if you install a game with a big data file such as asphalt 6 the main program is installed in the 2 gig part, most programs should be more that a few kilobytes to 10-20 megs max. Their data however can be installed onto the SD card if the program allows it. If you have root, you can force even programs that do not allow SD card allocation to be installed on to the SD card, but this may ending up messing up the program...for example if you install a widget onto the sd card it will stop working. It needs to be in that 2 gig partition
older phones like the Nexus one only had about 256 megs of free space for programs, so such things as sd ext. partitions were made in the external SD cards to make the program and phone think that this is an extention/part of that 256 partition that can be used as programs thereby increasing space to install programs.
-External SD, is an SD card you put in your phone
-Internal SD is a partition of that 16 gigs and is allocated to save things on such as videos, music etc. the
-sd ext partition is a partition that you could make on an SD card to think that it is where the programs can be installed and used (not their data, just the main program itself, problem with this is if you're using a slow SD card, some programs can have lag) in our amaze since we have 2 gigs to store programs, there is little worry about running out of space, unless you're insalling like 500 programs...then you could partition your sd card to be sd ext
there are sd ext1, sd ext2, sd ext3 and sd ext4 that I know of...To learn more about those search on google. I forget exactly what the differences are, and not all roms/phones are compatible with all the sd ext types.
hope I didn't confuse you.
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AFAIK there are two SD Cards, one come pre-installed from HTC which gave us 10Gb after reverse some 6Gb for the phone/system and the phone identified it as SDCard. The second one will be add-on as per user's option and the phone will identified it as SDCard2 or Ext_Sd card
Perform a full wipe/reset/factory will not delete your files on that 10Gb SDCard and/or the ext-sdcard that you may have had put in
Others may know better and may corrected me if I'm wrong
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not true, performing factory reset from settings menu, gives you the option of deleting both internal and external sd, you MUST uncheck those boxes if you wish to have those data remain intact and not deleted.
dude thanks.. but that was a huge long explanation..
I sort of knew that.. im no noob, but you can post that on General.. I'm sure it would answer a lot of noobish questions..
Im just asking if the non user SD gets deleted.. I come from another phone which the only SD was the one you put in..
So this whole thing of 2 memories (inside and outside) is confusing to me..
So just to be clear, with a wipe.. does the internal SD get erased, yes, or no?
(and thanks.. i thanked u both)
Will it considered abusing the thanks button if I thank you for thanked me (j/k)
If you use clockwork recovery, 10GB internal space is untouched unless you want to format them. Full/Factory wipe deletes the internal SD space of user data and apps.
I usually keep my personal files during full/factory/reset while I need to do flashing.
But no one knows It's always better to backup any important files
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dude thanks.. but that was a huge long explanation..
I sort of knew that.. im no noob, but you can post that on General.. I'm sure it would answer a lot of noobish questions..
Im just asking if the non user SD gets deleted.. I come from another phone which the only SD was the one you put in..
So this whole thing of 2 memories (inside and outside) is confusing to me..
So just to be clear, with a wipe.. does the internal SD get erased, yes, or no?
(and thanks.. i thanked u both)
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if you go under settings > storage . and scroll to the bottom click factory data reset, gives you two options. make sure the one that says erase all data is not checked...if you don't have an external sd "erase sd card" is grayed out, if you do make sure that one is unchecked as well...if you check those.
Erase all data deletes internal SD.
Erase SD card deletes External SD.
does that help?
I believe if you do it from custom recovery it will not delete any of the internal or external. but check with binary again.
Got my new Note, this is my first droid phone, and I got LOTS of questions. I currently have the i717 version, unrooted.
1) Is currently is any reliable way to install ICS on the i717?
2) How do I check if there were any previous kernel or ROM flashes?
3) Is there a reliable way to root the device WITHOUT increasing the counter (assuming it is currently at 0)?
4) How do I move installed apps, which are currently under "System Storage" to "USB storage"?
I can answer all of your questions very simply. Search and read.
yep all ur answers are here just gotta read,
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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funziebear said:
no ics for this device just yet and to move to sd there's an app u can use i just don't know the name or i think u can even use root explorer not sure on that one ill let someone else shine in on that
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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Ya from what I gathered, there is ICS for the international version. I have yet to see something for the i717.
I dont have an SD yet, I was referring to moving them from System to USB storage.
I will be getting as SD soon though.
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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There are two potential SD cards for the Note. One is the internal SD card. This is actually the part of the phone where you store your music and other files. It's the space allotted by the OS for storage. The Note comes with 16GB of internal storage, but 2GB is reserved for the system. You cannot access this for data storage. There is also a portion of the internal SD card that is used by the OS itself.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
The Note also has a slot for an external SD card. To access it, you take the battery cover off and right next to the SIM card, there is a little slot for the micro SD card. The Note is published as handling up to 32GB micro SD cards, but there are plenty of people using 64GB micro SD cards with their phone.
Using the external SD card would allow you to add additional music and photos and other files. It is not used at all by the OS or system, so you would have as much space on it as you can after formatting it. (You lose some space after formatting.)
So to summarize: the Note has 16GB, about 12GB available through the internal SD card. You can add additional storage using the external SD card (officially up to 32 GB, unofficially up to 64Gb).
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Got it, but still have a little question. I noticed when I install any app, it goes directly onto the 2GB system reserved space. What if I run out of that 2GB, what happens in that case, can I move the installed apps into the 12GB or I have to move it into the purchased/external SD card?
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Read this paragraph again.
The remaining amount of storage is about 12GB. This is accessible through a file explorer such as Root Explorer, ES File Explorer, etc, and is located in the /sdcard folder. This is where any App2SD type app will move apps to. This is also where you store your music and other files like photos, etc.
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^^ got it, thanks.
K I researched and read, I still cannot find out if I can safely root my Bell i717, without increasing the flash counters.
Also, it seems there is no ICS yet available for this device.
Can someone please chime in?
wow this thread cleared up a lot for me. Still got a few questions though...so when i go to settings and click on an app and click "move app to sd" it moves it to the "internal sd" which has about 12gb of space? so then what goes on the external sd card? is the storage on the SD card ONLY accessible when you plug it into a computer and put it in mass storage mode? I remember when I had my nexus one, moving apps to sd actually put it on the external sd card..
The note is not a DROID. Droid is a verizon marketing term.
You can reset your flash counter. So even if you increase it by flashing CWM or rooting then just reset it back to 0. That's what I did.
Once CWM is installed flash all the ROMs you want through CWM. Just back up nandroid first and you can always go back.
I use a 64GB microSD card and store nandroid backups, photos, videos, podcasts, etc.
The internal SD (USB Storage) is used for app data.
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Hi guys, found 2 answers so far, still looking for #1 and #4 if someone can point me to the right threads to ready it would be appreciated.
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Root ir phone throigh odin then go search dev thread for the rom u want read the requiements then flash they r all good
note @ 1.83
... You don't need root to flash a ROM.
Instead of rooting with Odin, just flash CWM with Odin then flash the ROM from there.
The only reason to root first, is to run titanium backup if you so desire
Phone the card came out of is a Doogee S68 Pro. I configured the SD card to be internal memory and for the camera app to save pics taken to the SD card. I assumed when the SD card was full the camera would save back to the internal memory but instead it gave an error saying storage full and wouldn't take more photos. There was no option within the camera app to switch the save location to the internal memory so I removed the SD card. This forced the camera to now save to internal memory. BUT. Now when I put the SD card back in it doesn't read and says I need to format the card to use it. Same result if I put the card in different android phones or pug it into a PC. I don't want to format the card because I want the pictures on it.
How can I get the image files off this SD card? I've tried a few file recovery programs without any success. I don't have a linux machine, just a PC, and I have no experience with rooting phones or the like.
Probably card is in raw mode now.
What you mean by saying that you have configured card as an internal storage?
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Same result if I put the card in different android phones or pug it into a PC. I don't want to format the card because I want the pictures on it. How can I get the image files off this SD card? I've tried a few file recovery programs without any success. I don't have a linux machine, just a PC, and I have no experience with rooting phones or the like.
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The External SD-card got encrypted as soon as you decided to use it as internal memory. It's no longer readable by any card-reader. IMHO forensic tools are needed to retain the data stored there.
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Probably card is in raw mode now.
What you mean by saying that you have configured card as an internal storage?
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When I pulgged it in the first time it gave two options, use as internal memory or as mass storage device. I choose the internal memory option.
Dam
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The External SD-card got encrypted as soon as you decided to use it as internal memory. It's no longer readable by any card-reader. IMHO forensic tools are needed to retain the data stored there.
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I feared this was the case. I don't understand why the original phone cannot decrypt the card though as it would with a Samsung device. I have sent a support request tot he phone manufacturer so hopefully that bears fruit.
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When I pulgged it in the first time it gave two options, use as internal memory or as mass storage device. I choose the internal memory option.
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Ok thank you for confirmation. As above card encrypted and furthermore you might have lost all the data of the phone as well as sms , apps, updates basically everything since you choose that option has been storage on ad card, and your internal storage was not used or useless in a different world, access has been denied to it.
Which tools have you tried to recover data?
I'm starting to run low on space on my N200, so I popped a MicroSd card into it. I mainly want to move some of my apps over to the SD card, but the card needs to be setup as internal storage for that.
Right now the card is registering as portable storage, and I can't find an option anywhere in the phone to format the card as internal storage...
I would not do that even if possible. Use the SD card as a data drive only.
Keep the download folder in internal memory but all critical data goes on the SD card.
There can only be one folder named DCIM, do not use that even within another folder name.
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I would not do that even if possible. Use the SD card as a data drive only.
Keep the download folder in internal memory but all critical data goes on the SD card.
There can only be one folder named DCIM, do not use that even within another folder name.
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Is there an actual reason for that, or just personal preference on your part?
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Is there an actual reason for that, or just personal preference on your part?
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The interface bandwidth is significantly slower than with internal memory.
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The interface bandwidth is significantly slower than with internal memory.
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Not an issue with the apps I want to move.