Purchased from OP US website, but it's not carrier activated or custom logo'd.
(Long story short- bought last year as upgrade to 8T but sock-drawered it waiting for 6 months to finish elapsing for 8T unlock, then news came out re 11's better specs & January release...)
Last night turned on 10T no sim \ on Samsung hotspot & was presented in order: ~ 750mb security & fixes\stability update, OS 13 {4½gb), then another update ~ 650mb.
None had the usual T-Mobile is presenting you a necessary update message & phone has no T-Mo apps or splash screen (in contrast to previous OP models N10 & 8T). And T-Mo hasn't yet released 13 upgrade for any handset 8\9\10. Model# remains cph2417.
So I'm assuming this time OP not selling carrier-locked models(folks had problems using 9 on Verizon) \ if I'd activated 10T, T-Mobile would've foisted their firmware \ locked phone \ would still be waiting on 13 upgrade?
Hhhmmm...
CPH2417 is not the T-Mobile model, it's the factory unlocked U.S. model, meaning you would have gotten those updates regardless if you were using a T-Mobile SIM card or not, CPH2419 is the T-Mobile branded 10T, that one has not officially received OOS 13, neither has their 10 Pro, 9 Series, or 8 Series.
rmendez011 said:
CPH2417 is not the T-Mobile model, it's the factory unlocked U.S. model, meaning you would have gotten those updates regardless if you were using a T-Mobile SIM card or not, CPH2419 is the T-Mobile branded 10T, that one has not officially received OOS 13, neither has their 10 Pro, 9 Series, or 8 Series.
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Correct. I'm surprised OnePlus Store didn't sell the T-Mo 2419, unlike in the past.
And fwiw read today that 11 won't be sold by the carrier.
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Correct. I'm surprised OnePlus Store didn't sell the T-Mo 2419, unlike in the past.
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I'm surprised they changed the last number from a 5, to a 7 lol. Since the 7 Pro, the model number ending in 5 always meant U.S. model, and 7 always meant T-Mobile model.
And fwiw read today that 11 won't be sold by the carrier.
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Wait really? That's good to hear, hopefully this means the 11 and future models are safe from permanent bootloader locks, I still won't upgrade from my 9 Pro, which is a true flagship from OnePlus, plus it's the last model with Custom ROM support, and MSM Tool, not to mention mmWave 5G.
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I'm surprised they changed the last number from a 5, to a 7 lol. Since the 7 Pro, the model number ending in 5 always meant U.S. model, and 7 always meant T-Mobile model.
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Hopefully it's because OnePlus tired of T-Mo upgrade delays. Although to be fair, that intransigence helped for Android 12.
I also hope that T-Mo doesn't lock 11 during its activation.
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Wait really? That's good to hear, hopefully this means the 11 and future models are safe from permanent bootloader locks, I still won't upgrade from my 9 Pro, which is a true flagship from OnePlus, plus it's the last model with Custom ROM support, and MSM Tool, not to mention mmWave 5G.
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Agreed. Although with 11 having the latest Snapdragon we're getting up to triple 5G Carrier Aggregation, UFS 4, LPPDR 5... and all those combine to use lots less battery & run cooler (beside the multi-gig download speeds).
Plus from me, coming from the 10T, they're re-adding everything removed from your model: adaptive refresh down to 1, QHD, notification slider button...
The only critiques:
A. charger downgraded from 150\125 to 100\80 depending on model. For me that 10T brick charges 8T quicker (which comes with 80\65W version).
B. 512 gb variant nowhere to be seen in OP Store.
C. No e-Sim yet?
I used to do the custom roms back in Cyanogen days, but today I have too many finance, \ betting \ work apps- plus Samsung Pay on Galaxy Watch (managed from Android phone app) I don't want trouble with.
Maybe I'm just being too ignorant or lazy about today's custom Roms.
All the best.
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Hopefully it's because OnePlus tired of T-Mo upgrade delays. Although to be fair, that intransigence helped for Android 12.
I also hope that T-Mo doesn't lock 11 during its activation.
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Activation? What do you mean? Will the 11 now start "activating" itself upon first setup?
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Agreed. Although with 11 having the latest Snapdragon we're getting up to triple 5G Carrier Aggregation, UFS 4, LPPDR 5... and all those combine to use lots less battery & run cooler (beside the multi-gig download speeds).
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Yea that's one thing I'm tempted about the 11, the 5G support is insane, I'm jealous it has official N77 C-Band 5G support for Verizon, here on my 9 Pro, it has it, but I have to have root to enable it, plus I don't get the 5G UW icon. Not to mention battery life is atrocious on my 9 Pro, I usually get around 3 and a half hours of SOT. But then I remember no MSM Tool, no custom ROM support, so it will die on Oxygen OS 17.
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Plus from me, coming from the 10T, they're re-adding everything removed from your model: adaptive refresh down to 1, QHD, notification slider button...
The only critiques:
A. charger downgraded from 150\125 to 100\80 depending on model. For me that 10T brick charges 8T quicker (which comes with 80\65W version).
B. 512 gb variant nowhere to be seen in OP Store.
C. No e-Sim yet?
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A. Don't forget that the 10T charger is also a 45W PD charger, same with the U.S. 10 Pro charger, the new 11 charger is the same 80w charger found in the international 10 Pro, and is not PD compatible.
B. I bet it's gonna be an exclusive color down the line.
C. U.S. and EU models do have eSIM, and apparently dual nano SIM? Not sure how accurate that is.
horsecharles said:
I used to do the custom roms back in Cyanogen days, but today I have too many finance, \ betting \ work apps- plus Samsung Pay on Galaxy Watch (managed from Android phone app) I don't want trouble with.
Maybe I'm just being too ignorant or lazy about today's custom Roms.
All the best.
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Everything you just mentioned (except Samsung Pay, don't have a Samsung Watch, I have a Fossil Gen 5) worked for me when running a custom ROM, I'm currently rooted on my OnePlus 9 Pro running Oxygen OS 13 F.20, and it all works, thanks to Universal SafetyNet Fix magisk module, plus it makes my WideVine L1, so I get 4K streaming. (Peep the screenshots).
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Activation? What do you mean? Will the 11 now start "activating" itself upon first setup?
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No. I meant that when I take phone to T-Mobile, hopefully they won't lock it when providing the SIM \ service.
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Yea that's one thing I'm tempted about the 11, the 5G support is insane, I'm jealous it has official N77 C-Band 5G support for Verizon, here on my 9 Pro, it has it, but I have to have root to enable it, plus I don't get the 5G UW icon. Not to mention battery life is atrocious on my 9 Pro, I usually get around 3 and a half hours of SOT. But then I remember no MSM Tool, no custom ROM support, so it will die on Oxygen OS 17.
A. Don't forget that the 10T charger is also a 45W PD charger, same with the U.S. 10 Pro charger, the new 11 charger is the same 80w charger found in the international 10 Pro, and is not PD compatible.
B. I bet it's gonna be an exclusive color down the line.
C. U.S. and EU models do have eSIM, and apparently dual nano SIM? Not sure how accurate that is.
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Wait. I thought my 8T charger was 65W(Int. 80), my 10T 125(150 Europe). Am I confusing or misunderstanding the numbers?
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Everything you just mentioned (except Samsung Pay, don't have a Samsung Watch, I have a Fossil Gen 5) worked for me when running a custom ROM, I'm currently rooted on my OnePlus 9 Pro running Oxygen OS 13 F.20, and it all works, thanks to Universal SafetyNet Fix magisk module, plus it makes my WideVine L1, so I get 4K streaming. (Peep the screenshots).
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Thank you so much for this! I'll really look for this with the 11 if it becomes possible (if the OP Fold coming later this year doesn't tempt another trade-in ROTFL).
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Just picked up my mate 10 pro upgrade from Vodafone this morning. Came with a free Huawei Watch 2 which was a result
When you first power it up it detects an operator ota update which downloads apps but importantly it also enables WiFi calling.
My previous device was a mate 9 6gb version and this already feels more premium.
Manook01 said:
Just picked up my mate 10 pro upgrade from Vodafone this morning. Came with a free Huawei Watch 2 which was a result
When you first power it up it detects an operator ota update which downloads apps but importantly it also enables WiFi calling.
My previous device was a mate 9 6gb version and this already feels more premium.
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This confirms what I knew that Volte only works with carrier branded ROMS.
didn't realise Vodafone were selling the M10Pro. That could have only come up recently as it was only CPW and Three that were stocking them.
It was shown as coming soon on Vodafone for the last couple of weeks. They never mentioned it on social media tho and the first 1000 customers get a free Huawei watch 2 which is a bonus
Manook01 said:
Just picked up my mate 10 pro upgrade from Vodafone this morning. Came with a free Huawei Watch 2 which was a result
When you first power it up it detects an operator ota update which downloads apps but importantly it also enables WiFi calling.
My previous device was a mate 9 6gb version and this already feels more premium.
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Ive ordered one and picking it up tomorrow through vodafone. Did your emails say about the watch or did it just comr with it?
Watch came with the phone when I picked it up
Manook01 said:
Watch came with the phone when I picked it up
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Awesome. Hows the screen? Do you miss it not being 2k?
I've had so many phones including pixel, s8 plus, iPhone 8 plus, oneplus 5 etc.. this is the best screen and phone I've owned by a long shot. Everything seems to just work and battery is really good, camera awesome and no screen issues at all. Don't miss 2k at all, screens too small to notice the difference to me
Manook01 said:
I've had so many phones including pixel, s8 plus, iPhone 8 plus, oneplus 5 etc.. this is the best screen and phone I've owned by a long shot. Everything seems to just work and battery is really good, camera awesome and no screen issues at all. Don't miss 2k at all, screens too small to notice the difference to me
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Sounds cool. Im looking forward to trying it out
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This confirms what I knew that Volte only works with carrier branded ROMS.
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Not so. All EU Mate 10 Pro' s have this built in. My Mate 10 Pro unbranded and unlocked from CPW, detected my 3 sim and changed the settings accordingly.
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Not so. All EU Mate 10 Pro' s have this built in. My Mate 10 Pro unbranded and unlocked from CPW, detected my 3 sim and changed the settings accordingly.
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Ooh exciting. I wonder if it's the same for all UK carriers. Can you show a screenshot to enable it?
There’s no real screen shot. When the phone detects the sim, it provisions it and install or adds (not sure exactly what’s going on) the respective software needed to automatically do what’s needed. Under networks this is what I see
Also top left status bar normally shows “3 WiFi Calling”
This is the single sim version from Carphone Warehouse. I have the dual sim version coming from Amazon Germany later this week.
As the Mate 10 Pro (dual sim) is Dual VoLTE(4G calling) capable, then it would be really nice to see this tested in UK. Every provider in UK who has VoLTE support for P10, should be good with Mate 10 Pro also.
What's interesting is that the WiFi calling shortcut can't be found on the Vodafone update. It appears as a to-do option and once you've enabled it the option vanishes completely. As you can see tho it still works
I got mine from Carphonewarehouse (sim unlocked) but once I put the Three sim inside it downloaded a tonne of Three apps and even branded itself to them
Manook01 said:
Just picked up my mate 10 pro upgrade from Vodafone this morning. Came with a free Huawei Watch 2 which was a result
When you first power it up it detects an operator ota update which downloads apps but importantly it also enables WiFi calling.
My previous device was a mate 9 6gb version and this already feels more premium.
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How you getting on with the phone? I'm tempted to buy one!
edit: I've just pulled the trigger. Returned my Pixel 2 XL due to several issues.
Got the mate 10 Pro from Vodafone, with the smart watch, 32gb data and unlimited minutes and texts for £45 a month!!
lukey-55 said:
How you getting on with the phone? I'm tempted to buy one!
edit: I've just pulled the trigger. Returned my Pixel 2 XL due to several issues.
Got the mate 10 Pro from Vodafone, with the smart watch, 32gb data and unlimited minutes and texts for £45 a month!!
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Can't fault it at all. I had pre-ordered a pixel 2 XL but after reading about all the issues I cancelled it.
You won't be disappointed in it all.
Hi, does the phone came with Vodafone bloatware and startup screen?
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Hi, does the phone came with Vodafone bloatware and startup screen?
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Nope it's completely stock. When it detects the Vodafone SIM it then downloads my Vodafone app
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Can't fault it at all. I had pre-ordered a pixel 2 XL but after reading about all the issues I cancelled it.
You won't be disappointed in it all.
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What's your screen like. It's a great screen. But mine has a bit of an uneven green tint. A bit annoying. Tempted to try another
i had HD calls and volte in my Galaxy S9+ but i dont think it works on M20P
is it supported and if it is how do i enable it?
According to PDADB, the phone CAN do this...for both CN and Global versions 128/256:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi..._128gb_lya-lx9__lya-l29__lya-l0c__huawei_laya
I believe Huawei firmware HIDES the toggle of voLTE by default...but should work automatically when your device is connected over 4G LTE. My limited understanding is - by default it's already enabled, as its dependent on your location and carrier, too.
So, if you think it requires activating, which i don't think is the case, here's what P10 users did:
https://www.solvemix.com/index.php/android-smartphones/1778-huawei-p10-volte-making-calls-solved
If for whatever reason you think it's NOT activated or not working and want to visually SEE the toggle (and enable if disabled) then the following process requires ROOT access which you current'y don't have on your phone, unless you have a chinese ROM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfmiDBPczw&t=6s
There, you can use an app like ES File Explorer and add a line of code in the BUILD.PROP file...It worked perfectly fine on my P10+ and my "VoLTE Calls" setting now shows and was automatically switched to ON.
Google and YouTube are your friends dude.
RoOSTA
VoLTE is activated by default on Mate 20 Pro, at least on the French ROM.
Can anyone on Optus in Australia confirm if VoLTE works via a non-Optus purchased Mate 20 Pro?
Follow here for more info.
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Follow here for more info.
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If this response was in relation to my Optus question, thank you, but I'm not sure how that topic that refers to T-Mobile US relates Optus AU.... I have actually been following that thread and in my opinion M20Pro VoLTE won't work in US due to the carriers not supporting Mate 20 Pro full stop.
VoLTE is still not a defined standard hence carriers must enable specific devices for VoLTE and a device often must have carrier specific firmware on the phone for it to work. I assume VoLTE does work with Optus since they are offering the phone but hoping for confirmation.
To be more specific, I'm looking to purchase a Mate 20 Pro soon. I'd rather buy from JB Hi-Fi for the (hopefully) speedier firmware updates direct from Huawei but if VoLTE is confirmed working with Optus, and the only way to get VoLTE working is via purchasing the phone from Optus, then I would do that.
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If this response was in relation to my Optus question, thank you, but I'm not sure how that topic that refers to T-Mobile US relates Optus AU.... I have actually been following that thread and in my opinion M20Pro VoLTE won't work in US due to the carriers not supporting Mate 20 Pro full stop.
VoLTE is still not a defined standard hence carriers must enable specific devices for VoLTE and a device often must have carrier specific firmware on the phone for it to work. I assume VoLTE does work with Optus since they are offering the phone but hoping for confirmation.
To be more specific, I'm looking to purchase a Mate 20 Pro soon. I'd rather buy from JB Hi-Fi for the (hopefully) speedier firmware updates direct from Huawei but if VoLTE is confirmed working with Optus, and the only way to get VoLTE working is via purchasing the phone from Optus, then I would do that.
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Hi ero,
This is just in response to some of the general questions in this thread.
What is Optus anyway?
Oh ok it's an Australian phone retailer.
Yeah that would be awesome if you could do that. Good luck man!!
Unless the Dual SIM has T-Mobile VoLTE, I'm screwed if I want the Mate 20 Pro though! lol Just sux. Part of me wants to say F it and just get it anyway, but not having access to like Band 12 sux. My area (Chicagoland) is about to get Band 71 as well from T-Mobile, and of course these phones don't have that either. FML! lol
roosta said:
According to PDADB, the phone CAN do this...for both CN and Global versions 128/256:
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi..._128gb_lya-lx9__lya-l29__lya-l0c__huawei_laya
I believe Huawei firmware HIDES the toggle of voLTE by default...but should work automatically when your device is connected over 4G LTE. My limited understanding is - by default it's already enabled, as its dependent on your location and carrier, too.
So, if you think it requires activating, which i don't think is the case, here's what P10 users did:
https://www.solvemix.com/index.php/android-smartphones/1778-huawei-p10-volte-making-calls-solved
If for whatever reason you think it's NOT activated or not working and want to visually SEE the toggle (and enable if disabled) then the following process requires ROOT access which you current'y don't have on your phone, unless you have a chinese ROM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUfmiDBPczw&t=6s
There, you can use an app like ES File Explorer and add a line of code in the BUILD.PROP file...It worked perfectly fine on my P10+ and my "VoLTE Calls" setting now shows and was automatically switched to ON.
Google and YouTube are your friends dude.
RoOSTA
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I got this on..
But im not sure its the same the hd calls on S9+ sounded amazing
I really want to know how to enable it for Optus
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Hi ero,
This is just in response to some of the general questions in this thread.
What is Optus anyway?
Oh ok it's an Australian phone retailer.
Yeah that would be awesome if you could do that. Good luck man!!
Unless the Dual SIM has T-Mobile VoLTE, I'm screwed if I want the Mate 20 Pro though! lol Just sux. Part of me wants to say F it and just get it anyway, but not having access to like Band 12 sux. My area (Chicagoland) is about to get Band 71 as well from T-Mobile, and of course these phones don't have that either. FML! lol
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I'm in Chicago on T-Mobile (via MintSim) and Volte is not currently working on my Mate 20 Pro. But I also have a P20 Pro (which like the Mate 20 Pro isn't sold or supported in the USA) and Volte works fine on that phone with the same sim card. I had a similar issue with the Mix 2 (Volte) and Mix 2S (no Volte) but on Xiaomi phones there is a way to force enable Volte by entering a dial code. There doesn't appear to be anything similar with Huawei, unfortunately.
jhs39 said:
I'm in Chicago on T-Mobile (via MintSim) and Volte is not currently working on my Mate 20 Pro. But I also have a P20 Pro (which like the Mate 20 Pro isn't sold or supported in the USA) and Volte works fine on that phone with the same sim card. I had a similar issue with the Mix 2 (Volte) and Mix 2S (no Volte) but on Xiaomi phones there is a way to force enable Volte by entering a dial code. There doesn't appear to be anything similar with Huawei, unfortunately.
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my 10 pro has it but my 20 pro doesnt. Same tmo usa here. im going back tothe 10 pro as the 20 pro is going back to clove.
jhs39 said:
I'm in Chicago on T-Mobile (via MintSim) and Volte is not currently working on my Mate 20 Pro. But I also have a P20 Pro (which like the Mate 20 Pro isn't sold or supported in the USA) and Volte works fine on that phone with the same sim card. I had a similar issue with the Mix 2 (Volte) and Mix 2S (no Volte) but on Xiaomi phones there is a way to force enable Volte by entering a dial code. There doesn't appear to be anything similar with Huawei, unfortunately.
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Man, how many subsidiaries does T-Mobile have now?? lol They just bought Metro PCS too (now it will be called T-Mobile "Metro").
Yeah I just verified in the T-Mobile forum that the L29 Dual SIM ALSO DOESN'T have VoLTE either on T-Mobile. F'ing sux!!
Yeah I had verified last week that the P20 Pro has it on T-Mobile, but at this point I'd prefer to have the newer model, or just wait until the P30 Pro comes out next spring. Hopefully THAT has VoLTE AND Band 71 too!!!
I'm so tired of having to always check on this for unlocked phones. It just ends up limiting my options, which I really DON'T appreciate, at all.
Really? Wow. I WISH Sony and Huawei had that force enable code for VoLTE too. That would be awesome! I've noticed (and confirmed) that all 2018 locked phones from T-Mobile still have VoLTE, but it's been removed from the settings and "baked" in, so you can't turn it off. Of course you can still make a call and verify you have it as the call of course stays in 4G LTE the entire time. But yeah.........that's the story with the S9+ which my cousin has, the OnePlus 6T which I just bought from them. I was about to complain to T-Mobile lol but then I saw something on their site that explained all that.
I just really resent that I have to choose between the #1 camera phone and if I want great reception or not on my phone. It shouldn't be that way. Not fair at all. And I know it's all b/c our government thinks they and ZTE are spying on us. But I simply haven't seen enough proof to verify any of that.
No VoLTE support from Telstra in Australia either. I had it enabled on on my Pixel XL (stock unbranded firmware), which is the same sim card that is now in my Mate 20 Pro, but yeah no dice! Telstra has a list of mobiles that they currently support but it's only phones that they currently sell.
Apple iPhone 6 onwards, Apple Watch 3 onwards
Samsung Galaxy devices, S7 onwards, Note 5 onwards, A5 onwards
Google Pixel devices
LG devices G5 onwards
Telstra Signature Premium & Enhanced devices
Sony devices Xperia Z5 onwards
So I really have my doubts whether they will ever support Huawei phones. Which is really annoying because I was just starting to really love RCS messaging on my Pixel.
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Man, how many subsidiaries does T-Mobile have now?? lol They just bought Metro PCS too (now it will be called T-Mobile "Metro").
Yeah I just verified in the T-Mobile forum that the L29 Dual SIM ALSO DOESN'T have VoLTE either on T-Mobile. F'ing sux!!
Yeah I had verified last week that the P20 Pro has it on T-Mobile, but at this point I'd prefer to have the newer model, or just wait until the P30 Pro comes out next spring. Hopefully THAT has VoLTE AND Band 71 too!!!
I'm so tired of having to always check on this for unlocked phones. It just ends up limiting my options, which I really DON'T appreciate, at all.
Really? Wow. I WISH Sony and Huawei had that force enable code for VoLTE too. That would be awesome! I've noticed (and confirmed) that all 2018 locked phones from T-Mobile still have VoLTE, but it's been removed from the settings and "baked" in, so you can't turn it off. Of course you can still make a call and verify you have it as the call of course stays in 4G LTE the entire time. But yeah.........that's the story with the S9+ which my cousin has, the OnePlus 6T which I just bought from them. I was about to complain to T-Mobile lol but then I saw something on their site that explained all that.
I just really resent that I have to choose between the #1 camera phone and if I want great reception or not on my phone. It shouldn't be that way. Not fair at all. And I know it's all b/c our government thinks they and ZTE are spying on us. But I simply haven't seen enough proof to verify any of that.
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TMobile doesn't own MintSim. MintSim is a budget MVNO that pays for use of the TMobile network. I don't really think TMobile is blocking access to Volte for the Mate 20 Pro for political reasons either or they would have done the same thing to the P20 Pro. The fake controversy involving our president and Huawei happened before the Mate 10 came out and there's no question that it was politically motivated nonsense or Canada, the United Kingdom and all of Europe wouldn't allow Huawei phones to be sold by any carrier in the country who wants to offer them.
OnePlus and Blue are the only Chinese phone brands that have ever been caught putting spyware on phones sold in the United States. One Plus has been caught multiple times. Do you see any action being taken against either brand by the White House?
Volte compatibility with TMobile could be fixed in a software update from Huawei but since they are no longer selling their phones here I wouldn't count on it.
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TMobile doesn't own MintSim. MintSim is a budget MVNO that pays for use of the TMobile network. I don't really think TMobile is blocking access to Volte for the Mate 20 Pro for political reasons either or they would have done the same thing to the P20 Pro. The fake controversy involving our president and Huawei happened before the Mate 10 came out and there's no question that it was politically motivated nonsense or Canada, the United Kingdom and all of Europe wouldn't allow Huawei phones to be sold by any carrier in the country who wants to offer them.
OnePlus and Blue are the only Chinese phone brands that have ever been caught putting spyware on phones sold in the United States. One Plus has been caught multiple times. Do you see any action being taken against either brand by the White House?
Volte compatibility with TMobile could be fixed in a software update from Huawei but since they are no longer selling their phones here I wouldn't count on it.
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Oh ok. Yeah I don't know what the real story is. Maybe Huawei got the P20 Pro certified but decided not to do it for the Mate 20 Pro cuz it lost confidence in it selling well in the U.S.?
No I haven't seen any action. Only Huawei & ZTE have been named. And then I read that ZTE paid Trump $500 million as an investment in some new hotel resort he's opening up IN CHINA and then suddenly after that he decided they were no longer a threat. lol F'ing politics!!
Yeah I don't think the Mate 20 Pro will EVER get that update. lol So for now I'll happily keep my T-Mo OnePlus 6T with modded GCam app (aka same software used on the Pixel phones) and see what Huawei (and Sony) do in 2019.
This comparison vid is interesting.
To me, it seems that the Pixel 3 is better for daytime shots and tends to be seemingly more color accurate as well, while the Mate 20 Pro wins out for night shots. But Pixel 3 has a ****ty battery and I'm not big on its looks, and the Mate 20 Pro.............no VoLTE no access to Band 12 during calls, and also no Band 71. Such BS!!
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Oh ok. Yeah I don't know what the real story is. Maybe Huawei got the P20 Pro certified but decided not to do it for the Mate 20 Pro cuz it lost confidence in it selling well in the U.S.?
No I haven't seen any action. Only Huawei & ZTE have been named. And then I read that ZTE paid Trump $500 million as an investment in some new hotel resort he's opening up IN CHINA and then suddenly after that he decided they were no longer a threat. lol F'ing politics!!
Yeah I don't think the Mate 20 Pro will EVER get that update. lol So for now I'll happily keep my T-Mo OnePlus 6T with modded GCam app (aka same software used on the Pixel phones) and see what Huawei (and Sony) do in 2019.
This comparison vid is interesting.
To me, it seems that the Pixel 3 is better for daytime shots and tends to be seemingly more color accurate as well, while the Mate 20 Pro wins out for night shots. But Pixel 3 has a ****ty battery and I'm not big on its looks, and the Mate 20 Pro.............no VoLTE no access to Band 12 during calls, and also no Band 71. Such BS!!
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Pixel phones have terrible build quality and lots of problems you mostly don't find out about unless you go to the official Google Pixel Support Site. They cost twice what they should at launch. I would steer clear of Pixel Phones or at least go to the official Google site and read owner comments. Owners are frequently shocked by the poor quality and many serious issues since they read nothing but fantastic things in places like XDA and Android Authority.
I learned this the hard way personally after having been a huge Nexus fan but the Pixel Phones feel much less premium than the Nexus phones in terms of build quality and design and list for twice as much.
The Pixel XL ran so hot Google support strongly suggested using it without a case and the phones suffered in very large numbers from permanent hardware failure dubbed the black screen of death which was comparable to the bootloop of death on the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P.
XDA, Android Authority and Android Police have never written a single word about those problems.
The Pixel 2 had a problem from launch where taking pictures would crash the phone, requiring a reboot. XDA, Android Authority and Android Police didn't write about the problem until 8 months after launch--when Google officially acknowledged the issue and released a software fix.
The oleophobic screen coating on the Pixel 2XL display (which is what prevents oil smudges and difficult to clean fingerprints on smartphone displays) started to wear off after less than 6 months of use. I have never owned any phone where that ever happened and the Pixel 2XL is supposedly a $1000 premium phone.
Those are only a few examples.
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Pixel phones have terrible build quality and lots of problems you mostly don't find out about unless you go to the official Google Pixel Support Site. They cost twice what they should at launch. I would steer clear of Pixel Phones or at least go to the official Google site and read owner comments. Owners are frequently shocked by the poor quality and many serious issues since they read nothing but fantastic things in places like XDA and Android Authority.
I learned this the hard way personally after having been a huge Nexus fan but the Pixel Phones feel much less premium than the Nexus phones in terms of build quality and design and list for twice as much.
The Pixel XL ran so hot Google support strongly suggested using it without a case and the phones suffered in very large numbers from permanent hardware failure dubbed the black screen of death which was comparable to the bootloop of death on the Nexus 5X and Nexus 6P.
XDA, Android Authority and Android Police have never written a single word about those problems.
The Pixel 2 had a problem from launch where taking pictures would crash the phone, requiring a reboot. XDA, Android Authority and Android Police didn't write about the problem until 8 months after launch--when Google officially acknowledged the issue and released a software fix.
The oleophobic screen coating on the Pixel 2XL display (which is what prevents oil smudges and difficult to clean fingerprints on smartphone displays) started to wear off after less than 6 months of use. I have never owned any phone where that ever happened and the Pixel 2XL is supposedly a $1000 premium phone.
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Yeah I won't buy Pixel ever I think. I have a friend who bought the 3 XL and returned it b/c he said battery life was awful. GSM Arena confirmed this on at least the 3 (69 hours, ouch!).
I've heard some bad things about the Pixels, but WOW! You have really opened my eyes here jhs! Thank you for sharing this information.
I will just continue to use my new T-Mo 6T with GCam mod. I'm very happy with the phone overall! Next year I will very likely (though not def) upgrade to either the Huawei P30 Pro, or else any of the following are possible: Sony Xperia XZ4 Premium, Samsung S10+, maybe iPhone too, or else OnePlus 7. We shall see. Right now I'm siding towards the P30 Pro.
I WOULD'VE prob bought the Mate 20 Pro if it had T-Mo VoLTE (it doesn't, unlike older P20 Pro) and preferably also Band 71, which T-Mobile is about to deploy all over Chicagoland (where I live) by year's end.
Along with a lot of you I was hoping Xiaomi would release the global version of the Redmi K20 Pro/Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro on Wednesday, June 12th, along with the release of the global version of the Xiaomi Mi 9T in Europe. As we know it didn't happen. I live in the United States so need the global version of these phones as they have more frequency bands opened up. Earlier today I was reading comments on the GSMArena website mentioning delays as to when that may happen. I can't verify any of this, but beside the editorial comments, it sounds like it's coming from someone who knows (or maybe a competitor). Here are the comments from TechNews:
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Guys I have a bad news for you.
Apparently, someone in Xiaomi revealed that Redmi K20 pro or the Mi 9T pro won't be launch globally, not in Jun nor July. Why? Because they ran out of stock. Qualcomm cannot meet with the heavy demand of phone manufacturers that wants their SD855 chips, and this affect Xiaomi that relies on high number of sales to cover for profit. This all happened because Xiaomi sold over 200 000 units of K20 pro on the 1st day of their launch and now, they only have few left.. manufacturing more to meet the global demand would require 2 months at least and thats why the probability of this k20 pro to launch globally in July is slim.. if there is any, there would only be the lowest version, 6gb ram and 64/128gb rom.
I know it sucks. So for those who cannot wait, just buy something else. K20 pro is not worth the wait.
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Further info for this, Xiaomi Malaysia just revealed that the earliest they can launch the Mi 9T Pro is late August. Xiaomi India also confirms that they will only bring in the Redmi K20 during July launch, and sadly no K20 pro for India. Expected launch of k20 pro is also late August for india. The only choice for those who can't wait for 2 months, is to buy the bloatware-full China version K20 pro with only a few number of units left available.. Then again, I suggest you guys look at other phones. By the time k20 pro or the Mi 9T pro launch globally, there will be a number of other flagship killer that surpass it's specs. Just like what happened to poco f1. I'm not trying to ruin xiaomi, but this is just the truth.. this is how they play with the market.. they hold the global launch, and only few weeks after the launch, they will bring in another better specd smartphone, again, only exclusive for China, and continue doing the same thing, over and over...
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Along with a lot of you I was hoping Xiaomi would release the global version of the Redmi K20 Pro/Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro on Wednesday, June 12th, along with the release of the global version of the Xiaomi Mi 9T in Europe. As we know it didn't happen. I live in the United States so need the global version of these phones as they have more frequency bands opened up. Earlier today I was reading comments on the GSMArena website mentioning delays as to when that may happen. I can't verify any of this, but beside the editorial comments, it sounds like it's coming from someone who knows (or maybe a competitor). Here are the comments from TechNews:
12 Jun 2019
Guys I have a bad news for you.
Apparently, someone in Xiaomi revealed that Redmi K20 pro or the Mi 9T pro won't be launch globally, not in Jun nor July. Why? Because they ran out of stock. Qualcomm cannot meet with the heavy demand of phone manufacturers that wants their SD855 chips, and this affect Xiaomi that relies on high number of sales to cover for profit. This all happened because Xiaomi sold over 200 000 units of K20 pro on the 1st day of their launch and now, they only have few left.. manufacturing more to meet the global demand would require 2 months at least and thats why the probability of this k20 pro to launch globally in July is slim.. if there is any, there would only be the lowest version, 6gb ram and 64/128gb rom.
I know it sucks. So for those who cannot wait, just buy something else. K20 pro is not worth the wait.
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Further info for this, Xiaomi Malaysia just revealed that the earliest they can launch the Mi 9T Pro is late August. Xiaomi India also confirms that they will only bring in the Redmi K20 during July launch, and sadly no K20 pro for India. Expected launch of k20 pro is also late August for india. The only choice for those who can't wait for 2 months, is to buy the bloatware-full China version K20 pro with only a few number of units left available.. Then again, I suggest you guys look at other phones. By the time k20 pro or the Mi 9T pro launch globally, there will be a number of other flagship killer that surpass it's specs. Just like what happened to poco f1. I'm not trying to ruin xiaomi, but this is just the truth.. this is how they play with the market.. they hold the global launch, and only few weeks after the launch, they will bring in another better specd smartphone, again, only exclusive for China, and continue doing the same thing, over and over...
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Yes sounds about right,I was interested in the mi 9 when it was first announced,then that disappeared for a few months,now the k20 pro is disappearing as well,
Dont they know demand is highest when a new device is first announced,ah well on to the next one, Poco f2 perhaps
I live in Canada and I have ordered one from AliExpress Chinese version 8/256 GB . Let's see how well it works
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I live in Canada and I have ordered one from AliExpress Chinese version 8/256 GB . Let's see how well it works
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You don't have to guess. Scroll down the page and set the Network Compatibility to Canada to see your carrier and you'll know. Same for other countries. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-8gb-256gb-cn I have AT&T in the US which just has 1 band available. The global Xiaomi Mi 9T has 3 bands.
BTW I'd get that same phone too if the global version was the same price. But it may cost close to $100 USD more than the Chinese version you bought. Even the Xiaomi Mi 9T global version of the Redmi K20 for the 6GB/128GB will be $416 USD. While the Chinese version sells for $354 USD.
Kinda skeptical about this, because obviously Mi prepared ample stock here in China, for all variants and all colors. Unlike past Xiaomi flagships, ever since its release, most of the variants are outright available for purchase everyday on every platform (save for 8+256 on certain sites), even now. To me it looks like we're way past the shortage of SD855 and Xiaomi is ready to deliver 24/7.
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Kinda skeptical about this, because obviously Mi prepared ample stock here in China, for all variants and all colors. Unlike past Xiaomi flagships, ever since its release, most of the variants are outright available for purchase everyday on every platform (save for 8+256 on certain sites), even now. To me it looks like we're way past the shortage of SD855 and Xiaomi is ready to deliver 24/7.
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Yeah but when you say "most of the variants are available for purchase every day" that doesn't include a global version, which hasn't been released, and is the one I need for extra frequency bands. I don't know about the chip shortage. Sounds possible as they've already sold a ton of these phones. But I'll just wait and see how things play out. Hopefully the global version, if and when it's released, will be affordable. If it's in the $500 + USD range I certainly won't refer to it as a "flagship killer".
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You don't have to guess. Scroll down the page and set the Network Compatibility to Canada to see your carrier and you'll know. Same for other countries. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-redmi-k20-pro-8gb-256gb-cn I have AT&T in the US which just has 1 band available. The global Xiaomi Mi 9T has 3 bands.
BTW I'd get that same phone too if the global version was the same price. But it may cost close to $100 USD more than the Chinese version you bought. Even the Xiaomi Mi 9T global version of the Redmi K20 for the 6GB/128GB will be $416 USD. While the Chinese version sells for $354 USD.
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I had the pocophone F1 which had similar bands and the necessary missing LTE bands . But it worked flawlessly on Rogers /Telus with full LTE coverage and no loss in speeds. I travelled to remote areas with no loss in connectivity.
If pocophone F1 was fine , I don't see no reason why k20 pro will perform any worse.
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I had the pocophone F1 which had similar bands and the necessary missing LTE bands . But it worked flawlessly on Rogers /Telus with full LTE coverage and no loss in speeds. I travelled to remote areas with no loss in connectivity.
If pocophone F1 was fine , I don't see no reason why k20 pro will perform any worse.
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Thanks for sharing that. That's interesting. I just looked up your info for both phones and actually the connectivity is the same with the B7 (2600) band the one available in Canada for your carrier. Please keep us updated on how that goes. I had bought a Redmi Note 7 Pro from a Chinese seller on eBay but ended up returning it by forwarding it to someone else he sold it too as I was afraid it wouldn't work because of the band restrictions. And returning things to China from the US is a major expensive hassle. I wish this would become available on Amazon. They have a 30 day full refund policy as long as the sale is fulfilled by them. That way if it didn't work I could just return it. But they never did carry the Redmi Note 7 Pro as it wasn't the global version, so they may not carry this one either. We'll see what happens. Has anyone here ever returned anything to AliExpress or any of the companies selling this now? How did the return go? Thanks.
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Thanks for sharing that. That's interesting. I just looked up your info for both phones and actually the connectivity is the same with the B7 (2600) band the one available in Canada for your carrier. Please keep us updated on how that goes. I had bought a Redmi Note 7 Pro from a Chinese seller on eBay but ended up returning it by forwarding it to someone else he sold it too as I was afraid it wouldn't work because of the band restrictions. And returning things to China from the US is a major expensive hassle. I wish this would become available on Amazon. They have a 30 day full refund policy as long as the sale is fulfilled by them. That way if it didn't work I could just return it. But they never did carry the Redmi Note 7 Pro as it wasn't the global version, so they may not carry this one either. We'll see what happens. Has anyone here ever returned anything to AliExpress or any of the companies selling this now? How did the return go? Thanks.
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I am planning to do a review as soon I get the phone . Hopefully it works as expected especially after spending close to CAD $700
Unfortunately AliExpress doesn't return phones unless they are DOA. Even than there is not guarantee the sellers will take phone back.
After doing a bit of research I see that my network in Ireland is only giving me 3g hspa+ speeds because it is s smaller network that only uses one of the country s bigger networks Three Ireland,I see the k20 pro support the bands I need,
I'm still a bit hesitant,I should have no problem rite,without band 20,Having never imported a phone before,
What else should I be looking for ?
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After doing a bit of research I see that my network in Ireland is only giving me 3g hspa+ speeds because it is s smaller network that only uses one of the country s bigger networks Three Ireland,I see the k20 pro support the bands I need,
I'm still a bit hesitant,I should have no problem rite,without band 20,Having never imported a phone before,
What else should I be looking for ?
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I couldn't tell you for sure. But I did look this up too and Three Ireland gets band B3 (1800) 4G with this phone. But that's the only band. But with the global version of the Redmi K20/Xiaomi Mi 9T announced on Wednesday, Three Ireland gets B3 (1800) and B20 (800) and it's less expensive. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9t-6gb-128gb If you don't know you can look up the differences in these two phones which are discussed in many places like GSM Arena, many videos on YouTube, etc. I've considered that phone too. So we'll see how things unfold. There's no guarantee they'll release a global version of this phone. Haven't heard any announcements one way or the other.
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I couldn't tell you for sure. But I did look this up too and Three Ireland gets band B3 (1800) 4G with this phone. But that's the only band. But with the global version of the Redmi K20/Xiaomi Mi 9T announced on Wednesday, Three Ireland gets B3 (1800) and B20 (800) and it's less expensive. https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-xiaomi-mi-9t-6gb-128gb If you don't know you can look up the differences in these two phones which are discussed in many places like GSM Arena, many videos on YouTube, etc. I've considered that phone too. So we'll see how things unfold. There's no guarantee they'll release a global version of this phone. Haven't heard any announcements one way or the other.
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Yea,seems the global is not happening or at least not any time soon,The 9T is appealing also,but am certainly used to my flagship performance at this stage and there would be a bit of a downgrade there,my current 6T has 6/128,Am only interested in the xiaomi for the cameras mostly,bigger battery,better fingerprint. Would certainly like the extra ram)storage 8/256 if possible,
Anyway,think I might hold off for a few months to see what happens,maybe the Poco f2 will be similar to the k20 pro.Will wait and see
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After doing a bit of research I see that my network in Ireland is only giving me 3g hspa+ speeds because it is s smaller network that only uses one of the country s bigger networks Three Ireland,I see the k20 pro support the bands I need,
I'm still a bit hesitant,I should have no problem rite,without band 20,Having never imported a phone before,
What else should I be looking for ?
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Just looking at the 3 major mobile networks of Ireland, they all use a good mix of LTE bands 1, 3, 8 and 20. Only band 20 is missing from the K20 Pro, so I'd be very surprised if you had issues with connectivity. Bands 8 and 20 are relatively low frequency bands, these are more 'robust' and can travel longer distances and penetrate walls better, but they have lower bandwidth, so have slower speeds. They are generally used, when a network has a mix of low and high frequency bands, in more rural areas or to give extra coverage in heavily built areas where some substantial buildings could stop line of sight to many areas. If band 20 was the only low frequency band available to you, then you might have trouble out in the sticks, but having band 8 should keep you covered in all areas.
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Just looking at the 3 major mobile networks of Ireland, they all use a good mix of LTE bands 1, 3, 8 and 20. Only band 20 is missing from the K20 Pro, so I'd be very surprised if you had issues with connectivity. Bands 8 and 20 are relatively low frequency bands, these are more 'robust' and can travel longer distances and penetrate walls better, but they have lower bandwidth, so have slower speeds. They are generally used, when a network has a mix of low and high frequency bands, in more rural areas or to give extra coverage in heavily built areas where some substantial buildings could stop line of sight to many areas. If band 20 was the only low frequency band available to you, then you might have trouble out in the sticks, but having band 8 should keep you covered in all areas.
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Thanks for the reply,but seems where I am rural Ireland base 20 is important somewhat but I'm not sure I'm not it would affect me too much,I would be happy now buying the phone based on it not having base 20,
I've since been looking at other videos and my new concern is being stuck with a Chinese rom filled with bloat. Im quite happy with my 6T now in terms of software and I know I can rely on OTAs and future Android versions,I'm not one for tinkering my phone's much these days and need the phone to be useable at all times. Think being stuck on the Chinese rom might drive me crazy,I know you can remove the bloat fairly easily but am worried about OTAs and support which I think is important for any phone
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Thanks for the reply,but seems where I am rural Ireland base 20 is important somewhat but I'm not sure I'm not it would affect me too much,I would be happy now buying the phone based on it not having base 20,
I've since been looking at other videos and my new concern is being stuck with a Chinese rom filled with bloat. Im quite happy with my 6T now in terms of software and I know I can rely on OTAs and future Android versions,I'm not one for tinkering my phone's much these days and need the phone to be useable at all times. Think being stuck on the Chinese rom might drive me crazy,I know you can remove the bloat fairly easily but am worried about OTAs and support which I think is important for any phone
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Xiaomi.eu should have a global ROM out soon, if it's not already. They remove all bloat and adds and make MIUI more bearable. A few months down the line and you'll see more alternative ROMS. I'm sure LineageOS will have an official build along the way, they have nightly builds with OTA.
What about k20 pro in germany?
In that website, I can see that K20 pro supports 4 out of 6 bands in Germany. (B20 and B32 are missing in the device). Will this be a problem in germany?
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In that website, I can see that K20 pro supports 4 out of 6 bands in Germany. (B20 and B32 are missing in the device). Will this be a problem in germany?
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Depends on carrier and city. I need B20 for the O² net.
Is there any way to unlock the full LTE frequencies on the K20 Pro on the China version (especially B20)?
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Xiaomi.eu should have a global ROM out soon, if it's not already. They remove all bloat and adds and make MIUI more bearable. A few months down the line and you'll see more alternative ROMS. I'm sure LineageOS will have an official build along the way, they have nightly builds with OTA.
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No too sure about this.They've already canceled global beta
Why would they release a global rom for a phone they're not releasing globally possible but certainly not definite
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No too sure about this.They've already canceled global beta
Why would they release a global rom for a phone they're not releasing globally possible but certainly not definite
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Xiaomi.eu are an unofficial group of MIUI fans who create global versions of MIUI. They take the stock Chinese MIUI ROMS, remove bloat and unnecessary Chinese apps, add multiple languages and a whole host of other customizations and release it to the world. It is all done by a dedicated development team off volunteers. It's not actually done by Xiaomi, although I believe Xiaomi do collaborate with them occasionally.
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Xiaomi.eu are an unofficial group of MIUI fans who create global versions of MIUI. They take the stock Chinese MIUI ROMS, remove bloat and unnecessary Chinese apps, add multiple languages and a whole host of other customizations and release it to the world. It is all done by a dedicated development team off volunteers. It's not actually done by Xiaomi, although I believe Xiaomi do collaborate with them occasionally.
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Oh Ok ,cheers ,didn't know that ,good to know
Finally I found a shop on alibaba can buy the phone with a good price.
Here is the link to buy:
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And I also found Mi 10 Pro on this website too!!!
Here: MOD Edit:- Links Removed & Thread Closed
Thank you guys.
Any shop, like Gearbest, Banggod, Geekbuying or the two german one (Tradingshenzhen and CECT) but for EU useless, because no FDD-LTE B20 (800MHz) in China version and if you flash global ROM, than you need to open bootloader and let them open (no Netflix in HD, no banking apps and so on).
If you from outside EU than look for Aliexpress, like seller goldway.
I could buy it over the counter today for 600$, but it's too heavy and not keen to wait 360. If it was 3 days like in Xiaomi Poco, that'd be acceptable.
Seen so many models with motorized camera and I love this notchless style into future. 10T model will be worth waiting for.
Disclosure: I have Mi 9 and it's 175g is just on the boundary of acceptable weight.
Hi,from where you culd buy?
I've spotted it so far on Shenzhen.
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Any shop, like Gearbest, Banggod, Geekbuying or the two german one (Tradingshenzhen and CECT) but for EU useless, because no FDD-LTE B20 (800MHz) in China version and if you flash global ROM, than you need to open bootloader and let them open (no Netflix in HD, no banking apps and so on).
If you from outside EU than look for Aliexpress, like seller goldway.
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Link for CECT?
Are you saying that if you're in the EU, then these shops are OK? What about the UK?
No B20 means almost useless in EU
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No B20 means almost useless in EU
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Yep. Also, at the prices they are currently selling the Mi 10 Pro, it's too close to Samsung and Apple for me to be tempted by Xiaomi. Despite the DXOMark's top scores, I don't think the images are consistent or better than the Apple, Google or Samsung's flagships. Pixel-peeping has its value, but even though the 27MP images can be very detailed, there are a lot of artifacts in the Mi Note 10 shots I take.
And the Mi Note 10 hasn't even received a security update in two months....
I want to buy the China model from trading Shenzhen, then flash the global ROM later, but what implications would I run into if I did that instead of waiting for the global version? I live in Canada so I don't really need band 20.
At the moment there is no global rom and you need fastboot global rom for flashing, so you need to wait a lil bit longer and don't forget you need to unlock bootloader first, which means after you get it, you still need to wait +2 weeks.
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I want to buy the China model from trading Shenzhen, then flash the global ROM later, but what implications would I run into if I did that instead of waiting for the global version? I live in Canada so I don't really need band 20.
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You will probably get earlier updates If you don't want that, wait for global firmware.
I live in Germany and I ordered the Mi 10 from TradingShenzen. I don't mind band 20 and my English is quite solid
Still have to wait a few more days...
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You will probably get earlier updates ...
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What about banking services and Google Pay?
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What about banking services and Google Pay?
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Why are you asking? Could there be difficulties with banking apps? And for Google Pay, that doesn't bother me anyway
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You will probably get earlier updates If you don't want that, wait for global firmware.
I live in Germany and I ordered the Mi 10 from TradingShenzen. I don't mind band 20 and my English is quite solid
Still have to wait a few more days...
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as i can see on miui.eu they support global mi10 an mi10 pro
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as i can see on miui.eu they support global mi10 an mi10 pro
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Im waiting on my seller from ebay to get them. You can use banking apps and google pay if you unlock the bootloader. There is a script online that uses magisk hide and makes the appp not be able to be updated. I can find the link and post it. It's been working on my mi note 10 for awhile.
Found it: https://github.com/davidramiro/gpay-gms-patch
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Im waiting on my seller from ebay to get them. You can use banking apps and google pay if you unlock the bootloader. There is a script online that uses magisk hide and makes the appp not be able to be updated. I can find the link and post it. It's been working on my mi note 10 for awhile.
Found it: https://github.com/davidramiro/gpay-gms-patch
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Thanks. But why not just wait for the global version a few days (weeks?) so you don't have to deal with the security issues?
I use Google Pay everywhere, both on my phone and on my watch, so it's a must, for me at least.
Haven't decided if I should try the Mi 10 and hand down the Mi Note 10. It seems like the main camera sensor produces the same results, and I don't find the image quality of the wide and zoom to be that great comparatively. Or, may go back to Samsung for the zoom and the proper face unlock ...
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Thanks. But why not just wait for the global version a few days (weeks?) so you don't have to deal with the security issues?
I use Google Pay everywhere, both on my phone and on my watch, so it's a must, for me at least.
Haven't decided if I should try the Mi 10 and hand down the Mi Note 10. It seems like the main camera sensor produces the same results, and I don't find the image quality of the wide and zoom to be that great comparatively. Or, may go back to Samsung for the zoom and the proper face unlock ...
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I root my phone for magisk so I use this method to be able to use Google pay
I'm in the UK, and i bought a MI-10 from tradingshenzhen, which is still waiting to be shipped... I have tried to cancel the order and get a refund but according to them it's shipped.
I didn't realise as i've never had a chinese phone before, so i didn't understand about chinese / global version and how different they are. So i'm now going to be stuck with a phone that can't use the main 4G band 20 LTE on O2 in the UK, which is a big problem for me.
After realising tradingshenzhen would not help, i'm now looking at ways to make into a global version, but there seems to be risks with banking apps not working etc.
I have been using iphones for the past 10yrs, bought a note 10 a few months ago, and really liked it, and then the Mi-10 was released with a better chip, screen, ram etc. so i rushed into getting it as soon as possible without realising there's a big difference.... lesson learnt for me, i just hope i can get it to work at some point.
Any tips or adviced is very welcome.
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I'm in the UK, and i bought a MI-10 from tradingshenzhen, which is still waiting to be shipped... I have tried to cancel the order and get a refund but according to them it's shipped.
I didn't realise as i've never had a chinese phone before, so i didn't understand about chinese / global version and how different they are. So i'm now going to be stuck with a phone that can't use the main 4G band 20 LTE on O2 in the UK, which is a big problem for me.
After realising tradingshenzhen would not help, i'm now looking at ways to make into a global version, but there seems to be risks with banking apps not working etc.
I have been using iphones for the past 10yrs, bought a note 10 a few months ago, and really liked it, and then the Mi-10 was released with a better chip, screen, ram etc. so i rushed into getting it as soon as possible without realising there's a big difference.... lesson learnt for me, i just hope i can get it to work at some point.
Any tips or adviced is very welcome.
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i think it only the modem drivers we need to change
because like realme say that realme x50 5G have 5G band 1 but they have to actived it with an firmware update later
an they use the same modem x55
Hello,
The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is supporting DUAL SIM DUAL ACTIVE (DSDA) . The question is the galaxy s23 ultra have that feature ?
if not , why ? and how to enable it .
Thank you
Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
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Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
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Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
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Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
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They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
jcsww said:
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
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Eu regions support dual standby SIM not dual active SIM
hoss_n2 said:
They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
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Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
But take care pro
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fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
hoss_n2 said:
But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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thanks bro. the issue i will get it thru installment . that's why i don't think i can get it from china for the time being. Will wait and hopefully will hear good news .
hoss_n2 said:
But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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Seeing how that person is in Pasadena, CA, I question if it has to be the Chinese model.
It's stupid if Samsung doesn't support DSDA but I guess at the end of the day, it doesn't really affect me, as I use one SIM for calls and text and the other for data.
Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
jcsww said:
Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
hoss_n2 said:
No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
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Have you tried Modded Odin?
jcsww said:
Have you tried Modded Odin?
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
How to flash a different model firmware (i.e. SM908E onto a phone currently running SM9080)
Hi everyone, I do have a Snapdragon S22 Ultra that is currently running SM9080. However, non of the CSC versions available for this firmware has eSim support. Therefore I would like to try flashing the SM908E firmware (which should have eSim...
forum.xda-developers.com
hoss_n2 said:
Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
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Interesting. This year though, no Exynos might be the game changer. EU firmware tends to be a lot more friendly for North American use from my experiences flashing OnePlus devices. This is my first Samsung since the Note 9 though. Definitely looking forward to some flashing goodness once developers start taking an interest in the S23 devices.
Edit: T-Mobile should get me my SIM unlock by launch day so I am definitely interested in trying once the SIM lock is gone on my device.
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
DarkenMoon said:
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
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It is also region dependent on one plus 11 you have to get Chinese version & unfortunately this year Chinese oneplus 11 units are region locked & cant make phone calls outside china
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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Because carriers want to make your life miserable.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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eSIM is illegal in China.