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Anyone else finding the volume level of calls to be too low? Anyone using an app like Volume+ to boost the volume for in calls?
For me, it's too low - with occasional bursts of normal volume. Wondering if I'm covering up one of the mics or something causing a problem.
This is going to sound dumb, but this happened to me the first time I used my phone. The pulses of loudness is what made me figure out it was a bone head mistake (in my case atleast).
We are all used to holding a phone to our head in a certain fashion. Usually you index the corner to the top/front area of your ear. Since the phone is so wide, you have to bring that corner forward placing the center where the speaker is over your ear hole. As silly as this sounds, it's something I've never had to do before as the earliest phones always lined right up with your ear. I hope your issue is this simple, it sounds exactly what I experienced.
I too adjust where i position it by my ear. I do this often. Especially during the same phone call.
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Chief Geek said:
We are all used to holding a phone to our head in a certain fashion. Usually you index the corner to the top/front area of your ear. Since the phone is so wide, you have to bring that corner forward placing the center where the speaker is over your ear hole.
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This could be it. Experimenting by calling my work voice mail now. Sure enough, if you have the phone's corner resting on your ear, then the grill is a little to the left. I'll have to play when I get some calls (not so frequent for me) and see if I need a boost at all!
polstein said:
This could be it. Experimenting by calling my work voice mail now. Sure enough, if you have the phone's corner resting on your ear, then the grill is a little to the left. I'll have to play when I get some calls (not so frequent for me) and see if I need a boost at all!
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Yeap, feel like a goon now don't you? We've never had to deal with something like this as there has been few devices where it would be an issue. Sometimes you catch the dumb stuff, sometimes the dumb stuff catches you.
Agree with the above, I've had mine since the pre-release and it took weeks before I figured this out!
I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I noticed the same thing on the iPhone. Both phones have their speakers on the bottom of the phone. What does this mean? When you hold the phone in landscape to play games and grip it in gaming grip, the base of your forefinger (first finger) covers the speakers and muffles the sound. I noticed this a lot playing games on my old iPhone. Speaker should be on the back ideally or on the sides.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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Thank you for your wonderful useful tip. So I am only allowed to play a game with sound when I plug in headphones. Great practical advice from you! I like to see you hold the phone with the headphone plug digging into your finger too! I know because I made a mockup of the phone and held it in gaming grip.
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I haven't seen one up close yet, but I thought the power plug was on the bottom now. So, would that be in addition to the speakers on the bottom?? or did they move them elsewhere?
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
It would be more practical on the back but in terms of design it looks uglier. That's why they put the speakers on the bottom. My Atrix has its speaker on the back and it is much better than when I had an iPhone.
Speakers never bothered me on the iphone 4s when I had it for 6 months so I don't see it as a design flaw here. I am terribly concerned about the size and weight though. I know that the older Lumia phones are thicker but it definitely does not look that way. The 920 looks HUGE and that is saying a lot since I currently have a GS3.
I hope that my concerns disappear after handling or I might have to get an HTC 8x, which I really want to avoid after owning two crappy HTC One X phones.
Personally I kind of like the thickness. Gives it substance. I have held ultra thin phones and think that I'll break them. Speaker placement to me doesn't matter as long as they sound good. I just hope it's more water tolerable than the L900. Saw the torture test on c|net and it wasn't pretty.
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The speakers are on the bottom of the phone on either side of the USB port.
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Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
vioalas said:
Just on one side, the other side is the mic.
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No, tboy is right. They are on both sides.
The 800 also has the speaker on the bottom. It doesn't bother me since I have a light grip on it when I play.
Anyway I think there are always some problems with the placement of the speakers. There is just no perfect solution. If you put it on the back then some people will complain that the sound will get muffled while it's placed on it's back e.g on the bed or the couch. If you wanna put it on the side then you are forced to put one on both sides but most windows phones have 3-4 buttons on one side and adding a speaker would make it look really cluttered and one may end up being muffled again. Top has the same problem as bottom and front wouldn't just work because of aesthetics.
I personally think that the speakers on the bottom are the lesser evil compared to the other options.
The speaker is placed on the bottom is actually a good idea.
With the iPhone it was placed on the bottom due to the alarm, so that the sound would not get blocked.
I always place my phone (s3) upside down just to hear my alarm better , Since I'm a deep sleeper.
The Lumia 920 has no flaws. It was designed hand manufactured by the hand of god. Just kidding. Speaker placement is actually very fine with me. It's more of a preference issue that you brought up. Cnet's torture test of the 900 shows that it will die from water. That should be an indication of what to expect. Then again, it's the only phone I know that you can hammer a nail with and still be fine. The 920 is supposed to be even tougher. So if my phone drowns... At lest I'll still be able to fix thins around the house with it. LOL. Most indestructible phone design I've seen so far was the Galaxy S3. Survive a washer cycle with ease.
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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The answer is incredibly simply, when it is face up the speaker is blocked/covered by the surface and moreover the sound reverberates off of that surface. What do you want speakers on the front?
ashamir said:
Just got my One X+ today on AT&T. Does anyone notice how bad music sounds from the speaker when the phone is face up on a desk or flat surface?
Flipping it over produces a much cleaner sound, but it is unrealistic to have the phone screen down while playing music (screen can get easily scratched). What's the deal here - design flaw?
Also, music and videos from the default player play silently even with the volume up. Anyone else have this issue? I had to use another media player to get sound output - default htc sense music app did NOT output any volume on my mp3s!
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I've seen cases out there with kickstands.. that might help you
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The answer is incredibly simply, when it is face up the speaker is blocked/covered by the surface and moreover the sound reverberates off of that surface. What do you want speakers on the front?
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Don't be silly, I know that. I am saying that many phones account for this in the design, and project the sound accordingly. This thing sounds like a tin can when face down. Do they expect us to lay the phone screen-down to play music?
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Don't be silly, I know that. I am saying that many phones account for this in the design, and project the sound accordingly. This thing sounds like a tin can when face down. Do they expect us to lay the phone screen-down to play music?
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I'd venture a guess that they don't assume people are going to play music through the tiny ass speaker on the back of a phone in general. I mean it's got BEATS!
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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I'd venture a guess that they don't assume people are going to play music through the tiny ass speaker on the back of a phone in general. I mean it's got BEATS!
This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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Would never think to use a smartphone as a boom box, lol!
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This is one area that Apple got it right...stick the speakers on the side or bottom of the phone so they aren't covered when the phone is on a table/couch/lap whatever. It just makes sense. Even if they used the earpiece cut out and stuck two speakers in there (one for calls and one for tones) that would work. Anything but flat on the back.
Moral of the story...don't listen to music on the crappy built in speaker. It's going to sound bad regardless of how the phone is held/set down.
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To be fair, Nokia was placing the speakers on the side of the phone, in their N-Series smartphones, long before there was an iPhone. (I know you didn't mean it this way, but I get a little tired of Apple getting credit for so many things that they did not invent.)
Anyway, it's true that a lot of phones position the speaker on the back so that the curvature of the phone creates a small megaphone effect. My Nexus One is actually louder and clearer with the back (and therefore speaker) facing down. At least this works on hard surfaces.
I don't like to listen to music this way. But for podcasts and news I do it all the time. I'm planning to get a One X+, so I hope I can do the same. I suppose I don't really need to see the screen when I'm listening to something like that. But the scratching issue, with the phone sitting on the screen, seems real. (Despite claims to the contrary, Gorilla Glass 2 does scratch.)
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To be fair, Nokia was placing the speakers on the side of the phone, in their N-Series smartphones, long before there was an iPhone. (I know you didn't mean it this way, but I get a little tired of Apple getting credit for so many things that they did not invent.)
Anyway, it's true that a lot of phones position the speaker on the back so that the curvature of the phone creates a small megaphone effect. My Nexus One is actually louder and clearer with the back (and therefore speaker) facing down. At least this works on hard surfaces.
I don't like to listen to music this way. But for podcasts and news I do it all the time. I'm planning to get a One X+, so I hope I can do the same. I suppose I don't really need to see the screen when I'm listening to something like that. But the scratching issue, with the phone sitting on the screen, seems real. (Despite claims to the contrary, Gorilla Glass 2 does scratch.)
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I just see nit picking here. If listening to music or whatever u listen to and u CHOOSE to use the rear speaker, invest $10 in a screen protector and another $15 on a slim case that allows u to place the phone screen down and it will sit on the case, not the screen. Now if ur too OCD for a case then the screen protector will still he just fine. Again, why people aren't using Bluetooth headsets or even a Bluetooth device in one ear to listen to whatever they're listening too is beyond me. To be honest I think this device has a great rear speaker at high volumes and the whole idea behind a speaker is for SPEAKERPHONE, which it serves very well and crisp.
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I just see nit picking here. If listening to music or whatever u listen to and u CHOOSE to use the rear speaker, invest $10 in a screen protector and another $15 on a slim case that allows u to place the phone screen down and it will sit on the case, not the screen. Now if ur too OCD for a case then the screen protector will still he just fine. Again, why people aren't using Bluetooth headsets or even a Bluetooth device in one ear to listen to whatever they're listening too is beyond me. To be honest I think this device has a great rear speaker at high volumes and the whole idea behind a speaker is for SPEAKERPHONE, which it serves very well and crisp.
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Gee, thanks for the gratuitous critique of how I like to use my phone. What happened to if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all? I really don't need to be told, unsolicited, how to use my phone or what sort of case to get, if any. People have different prefences. And no one wants to be preached to by someone else about how their way is better.
Anyway, I find the built in speaker on phones (like my Nexus One) useful for some purposes other than speakerphone. I'm thinking about getting a One X+, so why shouldn't I be concerned about how well it's speaker phone works, comparatively? I don't want to take step backwards. It's a reasonable discussion to have, to learn more about the One X+.
Nah nothing wrong with the speaker sound, it doesn't sound tinny in any way and in fact all my previous smart phones in my Sig haven't sounded tinny either.
My Nokia brick before my n95 had what I would call a "tinny" speaker some 8/9 or so yrs ago.
The hox+ has a rear amp so try higher quality bitrate music, a 128kb to 256kb mp3 doesn't cut it any more for eg.
Also a gnex would be a step back in all categories as well as software imho to be sure, no need to squabble just do the side by side test before u buy.
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Found this on reddit. Works perfectly. Both speakers even and same tone after as well... .
Alternatively, you can just use root explorer, or es file explorer to change the gain value numbers in/system/etc/mixer_paths.xml file.
After scrolling down for a bit you will see:
"speaker-gain-default"
"Left Speaker Gain value" value="20"
"Right Speaker Gain value" value="20"
Then you change the numbers to what you like (for safety don't put them above 20).
Back out save, then reboot.
Put left at 16
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I think anyone saying the speakers are even aren't noticing. If you look at the breakdown of the phone on Ifixit, you see the bottom speaker is way to the right not even under the grill. The top is center. Makes sense the speaker that is covered is not as loud.
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Found this on reddit. Works perfectly. Both speakers even and same tone after as well... .
I think anyone saying the speakers are even aren't noticing. If you look at the breakdown of the phone on Ifixit, you see the bottom speaker is way to the right not even under the grill. The top is center. Makes sense the speaker that is covered is not as loud.
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What if we rotate the phone the other way? Will "left" side be "right" side and makes sound even more unbalanced? Or can you confirm it is smart enough to figure out which side we are rotating to?
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What if we rotate the phone the other way? Will "left" side be "right" side and makes sound even more unbalanced? Or can you confirm it is smart enough to figure out which side we are rotating to?
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I tested and it stays even.
It works with a 180 degrees phone rotation, they sound more even, just tested. It's sad that we have to do something like this,when it should be true balanced stereo.
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It works with a 180 degrees phone rotation, they sound more even, just tested. It's sad that we have to do something like this,when it should be true balanced stereo.
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Wait do you mean if rotated the other was in landscape mode it works better? I am so upset I go this phone and newegg won't give ma full refund. They want 15% restocking fee, yeah let;s restock a defective phone -_-.
As you hold the phone in landscape mode with the top speaker to your left,you have to rotate it,so that the top speaker is on your right now. Apparently this makes the sound more even,at least in my case,it did. Anyway I took mine back for a refund as it also had unstable wi fi connection and it would heat up to a high level just by watching YouTube.
Seems like there are quite a few speaker issues with this phone. I myself am suffering distortion from the top speaker which I would say sounds very much like the speaker on the 5x(I had both for awhile). Ruins an otherwise great phone experience. Not sure I want to deal with Huawei repair as I've heard nothing but bad things.
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Side note I can't figure out how to edit this file without getting access denied
What phone did you get Instead?
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As you hold the phone in landscape mode with the top speaker to your left,you have to rotate it,so that the top speaker is on your right now. Apparently this makes the sound more even,at least in my case,it did. Anyway I took mine back for a refund as it also had unstable wi fi connection and it would heat up to a high level just by watching YouTube.
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What phone did you get instead
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The phone I was expecting the least to have,after 6 years of Android and mainly Samsung....IPhone 6s Plus .
I went for this because I wanted a break from rooting,flashing,just something simple that works straight out of the box.First days I did swipe up to unlock or pulled the notification from the top to enable the Wi-Fi.I'm pleased with the acquisition so far.After 1hr of Skype it's just warm.S6 was hot.I still have androids around me Shield Tab,Galaxy A3 as a Mp3 player.TheA3 is nice for that purpose.
I will try this fix. :good:
Great! Is it possible to enable both speakerphone during calls?
are you having rotation bug too? if i lwatch youtube and rotate phone... sound pause for 2 seconds.... are experiencing this too? ty
pato2015 said:
are you having rotation bug too? if i lwatch youtube and rotate phone... sound pause for 2 seconds.... are experiencing this too? ty
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It's normal. Your phone is making the necessary adjustment to the orientation you gave it.
But it doesn't "fix" the problem it just makes the higher one being more low so the higher one just sound equals as the lower one... Or am I wrong?
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Actually my bottom speaker is louder than the top one.
Funny stuff.
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Actually my bottom speaker is louder than the top one.
Funny stuff.
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Same with mine. Way louder actually
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Found this on reddit. Works perfectly. Both speakers even and same tone after as well... .
I think anyone saying the speakers are even aren't noticing. If you look at the breakdown of the phone on Ifixit, you see the bottom speaker is way to the right not even under the grill. The top is center. Makes sense the speaker that is covered is not as loud.
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Thanks. Must have been deaf all this while. Much better.
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Can't find speaker gain left right also file doesn't allow me to edited anything like most other xmls. Is this because I'm on android 8
Will it have front facing speakers, or on the bottom, or on the back.
At present, we are having the best smart phones with front facing speakers online.
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At present, we are having the best smart phones with front facing speakers online.
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What does that even mean? He's asking about the G5 specifically. I think it will still be on the back.
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What does that even mean? He's asking about the G5 specifically. I think it will still be on the back.
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Always try and remember that English may not be someone's first language.
On Topic: I'm hoping that the speaker is at least on the bottom. Back speakers kinda blow.
Bottom as on the renders I can't see a speaker at the rear. I don't think I know of of a metal phone with speakers on the back? I am sure there is but can't think of any.
It's on the bottom, check the photos on AP
When I watched the livestream, I could have sworn they pointed to the grate on the top of the phone saying that was the speaker.. Maybe I misremembered, so I'll go back and watch again. Okay so yeah the speaker is on the very bottom of the phone. Looks like 3 dashes.
Looks like bottom speakers from the videos, and I hope it is cause I'd much rather have bottom speakers than back speakers.