Hi all,
I've noticed that a lot of times I get a "face doesn't match" message even in very good lighting conditions where I'd usually have no issues.
I tried turning the screen off and then on again to scan my face in the same position, and it can display "face doesn't match" 2-3 times in a row before being successful.
I noticed that I need to use my fingerprint much more than on my previous device, before my face wasn't registered only in very dark situations, and now even during the day it displays this message a lot.
Did anyone else experience this?
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i initially blamed the whitestone dome glass protection, then energy ring app; but no, I guess the front camera is the culprit, poorer quality or poorer settings
I jave exactly same problem my old xiaomi 10 pro have better face unlock and faster than 23 ultra i hope i fix comming soon
Yes here also same problem. Face Recolonization is not at par with Apple iPhone.
Keos214 said:
I jave exactly same problem my old xiaomi 10 pro have better face unlock and faster than 23 ultra i hope i fix comming soon
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Can confirm, the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro is really fast and good with face unlock, Samsung has sucked with this for years, that's pretty much the only gripe I have with Samsung, their unreliable Face Unlock.
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Can confirm, the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro is really fast and good with face unlock, Samsung has sucked with this for years, that's pretty much the only gripe I have with Samsung, their unreliable Face Unlock.
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Yes and with xiaomi 10 pro we dont need to puth the face front of camera you can easy unlock even if you are far from camera i dont understand why samsung not work well
Working fast and without any issues for me even at arms length. Try redoing face recognition in clear day light or with lights on, moving your face very slightly for different angles up down left right and then add the alternative one too.
I have try multiple time no succes even with friend face, same problem the device cant reconize
I use pin code no choice
Keos214 said:
I have try multiple time no succes even with friend face, same problem the device cant reconize
I use pin code no choice
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Is your front camera covered by screen protector, glass, film, dirt, fingerprints, or scratched? Are you able to take clear perfect selfies and videos?
Why pin instead of fingerprint?
Yes the device is brand new 12 days and my protection is cuted around the camera front
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Yes the device is brand new 12 days and my protection is cuted around the camera front
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Do you have a face?
Strange. It works perfectly and instantly for me.
Have you tried setting it up different distances from your face too? Bright light? Day light?
I have tried all of the above suggestions, even before posting this thread. I also have alternative look added in the daylight. Since I used s21u before this one, I can definitelly say that there's something off about the face recognition on this device. I guess it's a software bug. With all the same settings it was working amazing on my s21u, even from an angle, in darker environments.
I'd suggest that we report this on samsung members app.
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I have tried all of the above suggestions, even before posting this thread. I also have alternative look added in the daylight. Since I used s21u before this one, I can definitelly say that there's something off about the face recognition on this device. I guess it's a software bug. With all the same settings it was working amazing on my s21u, even from an angle, in darker environments.
I'd suggest that we report this on samsung members app.
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Yep report please. It may be a software bug or glitch which they should know about so they can fix it.
I can't fault mine so there is definitely a difference in experience.
Same here, seems like the issue for Samsung to fix in the following updates.
gmadjara said:
Same here, seems like the issue for Samsung to fix in the following updates.
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Hi,
I am currently looking to buy Honor 10, however, after reading some reviews and comments on the internet regarding the slowness and unresponsiveness of the fp scanner, I am really hesitant to.
May I know opinions on anyone already using the Honor 10 regarding the fp speed/reliability compared to iphone 7, oneplus 5 etc.?
it's bad compared to regular FP in other Huawei models, when it works it's fine, but it doesn't work always, though face unlock in good lightning conditions it's superfast, not very usable in dark (obviously)
though compared to other brands even this is still decent FP
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it's bad compared to regular FP in other Huawei models, when it works it's fine, but it doesn't work always, though face unlock in good lightning conditions it's superfast, not very usable in dark (obviously)
though compared to other brands even this is still decent FP
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Can you have a comparison with other brands as well, for example iphone 6s, samsung s7, oneplus 3 etc.
No problem after the first update.
And it's important how the fingerprint is registered.
One finger is recognized everytime on first try. An other finger ist working in 90% of the time.
I came from a Honor 8, and this brand new Honor 10 is a BIG Disappointment. Doesn't work fast, sometimes only recognize the fingerprint at the 3rd or 4th try...
Actually it's horrible... It takes severel times to detect the finger print (can compare to my Mate 8 and the Honor 6x).
But the face unlock is surprisingly good, even in low light and if you not hold your phone perpendicular to your face
The fingerprint reader is embarrassingly bad and I really hope they can improve it with a firmware update.
Thankfully, as mentioned, face unlock works really well.
it's really a shame then would have been perfect if they just used the normal fingerprint technology. I'm still holding out of buying it until I can try it in shop but they don't have stock for demo yet.
Same experience here - FP reader is slow and inconsistent, however face unlock works so well that I just use this and am very happy with it.
It's a different type of fingerprint scanner on the Honor 10. Its under the bezzel of the display and works with pressure. A slightly unfair comparison to other flagships here. In my opinion the fingerprint scanner placement isn't useful. Face unlock is faster.
I agree what other said. The fingerprint sensor just isn't as responsive as other conventional fingerprint sensors. I guess that is the trade off on some usability for style (under-glass sensor). There is no lowered platform in this phone. And no fingerprint sensor at the back ties in nicely with the cool phantom colors of the back cover.
Face unlock is faster but less secure as it is not true 3d face unlock technology like Iphone X or the Mi 8. I personally still go with fingerprint instead of face unlock.
I find the fingerprint sensor to be pretty fast although you do have to have to put pressure on it. What is more disappointing is when you want to use it for off screen navigation swiping it from left to right or right to left is supposed to bring up recent tasks but it only works about 50% of the time. I have put the on screen navigation back but it's a shame because it uses up screen space.
Fp is lame!! Use face unlock lmao
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I find the fingerprint sensor to be pretty fast although you do have to have to put pressure on it. What is more disappointing is when you want to use it for off screen navigation swiping it from left to right or right to left is supposed to bring up recent tasks but it only works about 50% of the time. I have put the on screen navigation back but it's a shame because it uses up screen space.
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I agree. The unresponsive fingerprint for navigation even after the update is what makes me want to return the Honor 10 and get the P20. I want to use the off-screen navigation but same experience, it's unresponsive and works only half the time. P20 doesn't have this problem whatsoever.
They wanted full underscreen scanner.
Drawbacks. As everyone have noticed, ridiculous sensitivity issue.
Kinda hoped they just use back normal scanner, although it would feel different than glass, it functions better.
Mine works pretty well, i have no problems with unlocking or navigation. The only problem is the recent apps gesture, because of the screen protector it dosent work all the time from the first try.
Bought this phone last week...yeah it's a little bit slower than other flagship phones but i never had a problem with my fp recognition, it always works pretty good and doesn't need that much pressure. Though i have to admit i prefer the face unlock, it's faster, more convenient and i can use it while driving.
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Mine works pretty well, i have no problems with unlocking or navigation. The only problem is the recent apps gesture, because of the screen protector it dosent work all the time from the first try.
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True, unlocking and navigation works fine. Same with me that recent apps gesture works only 50% of the time and that's a bit frustrating to me :/
I dont want to remove the screen protector, i bet it will work flawless after. We have to swipe full FP and the protector kinda prevents us to do that.
As almost evryone said it's not the fastest on earth but it kinda works and do the job, even if sometimes I have to try 3 times before unlocking.
I first tried the face unlock but sometimes I just want to take a look at the notifications without unlocking my phone so I de-activated it and the more i am using the FP the better it seems to work (or maybe I'm just getting used to it). Also I use the FP to navigate in the UI and love it for the moment even if the recent apps is sometimes hard to get.
Hey, have this phone from yesterday, europe dual sim version. How is for you the 3d face unlock?
I feel it's often inaccurate and in these cases it it does not unlock the phone.
Also, when i am in a dark room wit a good light behind me it's often inaccurate and, again, in these cases it it does not unlock the phone always.
In fact, if you try to register your face in this last condition you will see the face very very dark and this is a problem obviously for the face unlock.
I remember this last same "dark" problem also with the P20 Pro sensor.
What you think? Any solutions? Maybe in next updates?
Edit 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/Huawei/comments/9rnmpa/mate_20_pro_face_unlock_issues/
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I'm having similar issues here.. It will work perfectly sometimes and then just doesn't
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I'm having similar issues here.. It will work perfectly sometimes and then just doesn't
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just dont register your face in bad lighting conditions where it cannot be registered properly. I dont understand your problem tbh. Face unlock is a combination of the infrared thing and the camera.... if you use your phone while sitting in front of a bright light you cannot expect it to work. its like having wet or dirty fingers and comlpaining fingerprint isnt working.
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just dont register your face in bad lighting conditions where it cannot be registered properly. I dont understand your problem tbh. Face unlock is a combination of the infrared thing and the camera.... if you use your phone while sitting in front of a bright light you cannot expect it to work. its like having wet or dirty fingers and comlpaining fingerprint isnt working.
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Conditions are good.
if you use your phone while sitting in front of a bright light
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.... behind of a bright light, as written in first post, in fact if i try to register face in this last condition face is almost dark, but in this case the infrared camera should not help anyway?
With my iphone x in the SAME condition the face unlock works ALWAYS instantly, so i can see the difference.
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Conditions are good.
.... behind of a bright light, as written in first post, in fact if i try to register face in this last condition face is almost dark, but in this case the infrared camera should not help anyway?
With my iphone x in the SAME condition the face unlock works ALWAYS instantly, so i can see the difference.
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Well if you register your face in good lighting and the unlock does not work in good lighting then there is probably something wrong. You should contact huawei about that.
If you are trying to create a bad lighting condition on purpose and then it doesnt work I am not sure why you do this. There is no point. If you are in everyday live, like in a bar or pub and the lighting is bad you have to expect that face unlock is not going to be the most reliable. Its that simple. Sitting at home and trying to push it to its limits does not benefit you at all.
It is not as secure nor the same technology as face ID so there is no point in comparing them. If FaceID is better you have to accept it. No update can change the hardware.... maybe it will be optimized but it is not going to improve by 100%.
Surely ambient light has nothing to do with the face unlock method used here, as the camera is searching for an IR dot pattern. If anything, I'd expect it to work better in the dark.
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Well if you register your face in good lighting and the unlock does not work in good lighting then there is probably something wrong. You should contact huawei about that.
If you are trying to create a bad lighting condition on purpose and then it doesnt work I am not sure why you do this. There is no point. If you are in everyday live, like in a bar or pub and the lighting is bad you have to expect that face unlock is not going to be the most reliable. Its that simple. Sitting at home and trying to push it to its limits does not benefit you at all.
It is not as secure nor the same technology as face ID so there is no point in comparing them. If FaceID is better you have to accept it. No update can change the hardware.... maybe it will be optimized but it is not going to improve by 100%.
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It works in good light but it's not accurate like FaceID or also other 2D unlock tried until now. It's not accurate, for example, when I'm sitting in an armchair often it wants certain angles to unlock, etc..
I can understand your point about create "bad light condition". Until few days ago i had a One Plus 6 with 2D face unlock, but not only it, and in the same Mate 20 conditions i had no one single problem with angles or light behind me! Maybe it's a bit hard to explain..
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Surely ambient light has nothing to do with the face unlock method used here, as the camera is searching for an IR dot pattern. If anything, I'd expect it to work better in the dark.
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In fact it is the same thing that I thought! "Better in the dark", but in the evening when there is an artificial light behind me, sitting in an armchair, the unlock starts to have a bit of difficulty. And instead it should be the opposite, it should work better.
In this situation if i try to register my face in fact i see my face really dark cause the light behind me goes exactly on the sensor. Same thing with P20 Pro sensor. Only with Huawei i have seen this "problem". Nor with Samsung, nor with One Plus nor with Pocophone, etc..
It's really strange.
Check the software/EMUI problem thread, see if anyone else is reporting it. Otherwise, it's news to me.
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Check the software/EMUI problem thread, see if anyone else is reporting it. Otherwise, it's news to me.
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I think no one until now. Like no one with P20 Pro. Surely it's not fast like Apple Face ID. In same conditions. Sure about this because i have both with me so...
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In fact it is the same thing that I thought! "Better in the dark", but in the evening when there is an artificial light behind me, sitting in an armchair, the unlock starts to have a bit of difficulty. And instead it should be the opposite, it should work better.
In this situation if i try to register my face in fact i see my face really dark cause the light behind me goes exactly on the sensor. Same thing with P20 Pro sensor. Only with Huawei i have seen this "problem". Nor with Samsung, nor with One Plus nor with Pocophone, etc..
It's really strange.
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for comparison. I just tested bad lighting with my mate 10 pro... worked just fine... immediate unlock
i am not sure about the IR thing. it should definately work with no light but i am not sure if it is able to "work against" light. if your light sends out inrared wavelengths it will definately interfere with the IR projector. I am pretty sure though it sends out infrared wavelengths since it gets hot.... heat=infrared light (that how heat cameras work).
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I think no one until now. Like no one with P20 Pro. Surely it's not fast like Apple Face ID. In same conditions. Sure about this because i have both with me so...
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Apple were the first to introduce dot-mapping (or whatever they call the technology) to scan all areas, from left to right, of the face. The android versions on phones is more watered down...but it seems Huawei are using their own software of facial mapping which I imagine is designed to work the same as Face ID on Apple...but as there's some bugs with the pre-releases, I'd potentially wait and update the phone in 3-4 weeks to see if it resolve the issue.
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for comparison. I just tested bad lighting with my mate 10 pro... worked just fine... immediate unlock
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It was perfect in my "condition" with mate 10 pro with light behind me and against the cam. Because it used only the frontal cam! When i tried to register my face with Mate 10 in "my condition" my face was no dark and clearly visible!
This IS a big difference and here there is an "error" starting from P20 Pro to Mate 20 Pro.
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i am not sure about the IR thing. it should definately work with no light but i am not sure if it is able to "work against" light. if your light sends out inrared wavelengths it will definately interfere with the IR projector. I am pretty sure though it sends out infrared wavelengths since it gets hot.... heat=infrared light (that how heat cameras work).
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Perfect point of view. Problem is: with iPhone X the IR "thing" works PERFECT against light, etc..
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Apple were the first to introduce dot-mapping (or whatever they call the technology) to scan all areas, from left to right, of the face. The android versions on phones is more watered down...but it seems Huawei are using their own software of facial mapping which I imagine is designed to work the same as Face ID on Apple...but as there's some bugs with the pre-releases, I'd potentially wait and update the phone in 3-4 weeks to see if it resolve the issue.
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Yes, completely agree with you.
But i have a little doubt, this last comes from P20 PRO, also this with light behind me and against the sensor shows me my face all "dark" and obviously no update "fixed" this. I remember with this phone in my situation was IMPOSSIBLE use the 2D face unlock.
Idk honestly if an update here can improve this kind of sensor. I hope!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77998095&postcount=83
Facial recognition evidently hates sunlight. If your face is side on to the sun it won't work, you have to either be in shadow or directly in the sun. The fingerprint scanner I'm also finding to be very hit and miss. I have just been out using it to take some photos, lost count of the number of times both methods of unlocking didn't work.
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It seems to me like a directional or sensor spread issue,
If i hold the phone level with my eyes and head straight (straight neck) it works perfectly, if i'm at my desk with it in my hand looking down at it then it doesn't. If i raise my head and phone vertical as its giving me the 'recognising face' message then it unlocks just as i hit vertical/straight neck.
Problem is i look a t**t raising my phone every time i want to unlock it (looks like i'm checking myself out in a vanity mirror!!)
Had the iPhone XS before this and it worked flawlessly head down or not.
Can someone else who is having issues test this theory?
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I have noticed that face unlock doesnot work properly when you register the face without glasses and then try to unlock it with glasses on ad vice-versa.
Anyone else having the issue please confirm.
Any help would be really appreciated!! ??
Haven't faced this issue
Even I registered my face without glasses and even with my glasses on the face unlock works just as fast.
No such issue mate. Had mine on when i registered. its still accurate(10 out of 10) without them. Have you tried deleting the preexisting one and capturing a new one?
Works fine with or without glasses. Works also with my sun glasses on, flawlessly.
My face unlock still work fast when without or with glasses.
Maybe your front camera lens is dirty, because some cheap screen guard covered the lens but dust can entered the lens part.
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No such issue mate. Had mine on when i registered. its still accurate(10 out of 10) without them. Have you tried deleting the preexisting one and capturing a new one?
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Tried several times mate but no positive results
manuks said:
My face unlock still work fast when without or with glasses.
Maybe your front camera lens is dirty, because some cheap screen guard covered the lens but dust can entered the lens part.
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But my screen guard leaves the notch area. So no chance of dust. Maybe it's just my device misbehaving
I'm also having the similar issue! My phone is also not unlocks when with the glasses!! Looks need to register face without specs!
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I have noticed that face unlock doesnot work properly when you register the face without glasses and then try to unlock it with glasses on ad vice-versa.
Anyone else having the issue please confirm.
Any help would be really appreciated!!
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1. Sunglasses it is no problem and very fast
2. With prescription eye glasses it is slightly delayed if face is registered without eye glasses.
In all probability it is due to eye detection mode of the face unlock. If Ur eyes are closed it won't unlock.
Btw u should try the pie based beta 8.10.30, face unlock ia insanely fast.
So in case Mi9 users didn't see this, Samsung is having similar issues with their S10. When I saw the news about Samsung, I tried and tested this on my Mi9 and low and behold it unlocks with any of my fingers if I put the included silicone cover on top of the screen. Of course it doesn't work when the cover is not over the screen.
Any Mi9 users care to do the test? I bet all the Mi9 phones come with that thin silicone cover included in the box.
P.S. Also worth mentioning I have a screen protector on as well. I heard some screen protectors can cause this issue as well (seems it isn't the case with mine).
Hi, bro
I don't have this problem.
I use a glass Screen protector.
Miui 11.1 by xiaomi.eu 9.10.17
I think you misunderstood what I meant to say. I'm not talking about the screen protector.
Put a thin silicone case over the phone's screen and put any finger that is not registered over the sensor area. The phone will unlock.
Read here if I wasn't clear enough. Same issue applies to Mi9.
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is...t_vulnerability_on_s10__note10-news-39708.php
I get it.
I tried that and it didn't unlock
Doesn't work with the Spigen Ultra Hybrid flipped to the front.
MI 9 / xiaomi.eu 9.10.17
Does not work at all. Perhaps this is only a Samsung problem?
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I think you misunderstood what I meant to say. I'm not talking about the screen protector.
Put a thin silicone case over the phone's screen and put any finger that is not registered over the sensor area. The phone will unlock.
Read here if I wasn't clear enough. Same issue applies to Mi9.
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_is...t_vulnerability_on_s10__note10-news-39708.php
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Doesn't work on mine device too , with either registrated fingerprint or not , it's doesn't unlock at all with any finger when my stock cover that comes with the device.
Samsung ultrasonic?
Xiaomi optical?
Got notification from my bank app that fingerprint login for s10/note 10 is disabled, for mi 9 no restrictions.
You got me curious so I put the case on the phone the other way around so it covers the screen but the fp sensor doesn't work at all for me, correct fingers or not. Tried quite a few times like this and also with the back of the case on the screen, it always fails or in the case of putting the back of the case on the screen, it says the finger was moved too fas even though there's no movement at all. Quite odd if it unlocks like that for you, thought only ultrasonic sensors have that issue, I also don't think the screen protector causes it but I don't have any so can't say for sure.
My screen was replaced in like day two after buying the phone because it turned all green. Mi store here in Romania refused to give me a new phone. Could this be the cause of why this happens for me?
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Do you have face unlock enabled?
Because when your Phone is unlocked via face unlock you can put any fingers on the fingerprint sensor and your phone will change to the Homescreen
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Do you have face unlock enabled?
Because when your Phone is unlocked via face unlock you can put any fingers on the fingerprint sensor and your phone will change to the Homescreen
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In my case this is not true!
I have face unlock enabled and fingerprint sensor is working as it should!
I can unlock only with dedicated and memorized fingerprints regardless activated face unlock function!
Also, as I can see, title of this thread is little unfair to Mi9 because author in latest posts say that his phone screen is replaced!
After such big replacement I believe that factor reset procedure should be done because every peripheral have is unique ID and if this ID is not correctly recognized and maybe ID value from old sensor is used then all this "blind" recognition doesn't surprises me.
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So in case Mi9 users didn't see this, Samsung is having similar issues with their S10. When I saw the news about Samsung, I tried and tested this on my Mi9 and low and behold it unlocks with any of my fingers if I put the included silicone cover on top of the screen. Of course it doesn't work when the cover is not over the screen.
Any Mi9 users care to do the test? I bet all the Mi9 phones come with that thin silicone cover included in the box.
P.S. Also worth mentioning I have a screen protector on as well. I heard some screen protectors can cause this issue as well (seems it isn't the case with mine).
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Hello! I have the same problem, I discovered it a few days ago. It is unlocked with any finger.
Doesn't affect my phone. With the silicone case from the back over the front, only the correct finger(s) will unlock the phone.
It works fine on my mi9. In addition, Samsung has a different type of reader, as its predecessors have already mentioned.
The samsung problem is simple, it has the tolerance set too high, this is because SS want to have a better "usability" of the reader.
Buuuuuut, it backfired.
They have to think a little and know that people will uncover this trick to have a "better reader".
This can happen in any sort of reader, it's only a matter of parameters in software.
Hello guys, I'm so pissed off my gf in front of me unlocked my mi9 with any finger ! I'm not surprised that she did it, but everyone can do it, even thief ... It's crazy but I did fingerprints registered reset and now it looks like it works ... But ... I think I have lost my faith in mi9
I tried with 3 different silicon cover on a Mi9.
It does not work.
mi 9 is optical, not ultrasonic
Hey
Did not realize the P6's didn't have Face unlock
Yes, this is a HUGE disappointment but I'm hopeful for it's return, along side the fingerprint sensor, in the next year or 2.
Yr sucks although most android face unlock phones are pretty bad and only work in good light then its hit and miss wish they would take a leaf out of apples face unlock at least it works flawlessly 99% of the time even in the dark only android phones with 3d facial unlocked that came near apples was from Huawei think p40 pro etc maybe 30 pro if remember correctly , I would of much preferred a side mounted fingerprint than a in display one there just as bad with screen protectors etc
Had many inexpensive Chinese 'phones where face unlock is flawless, in near darkness too. My Smartisan is superb in any light, my TCL 10 Pro not so good, even in good light. It has been suggested that face unlock is not very secure (particularly the Chinese models) but I've never managed to fool it with anyone else's face, in a mirror, photographs or random objects . I really like face unlock though one of the problems with more recent versions of Android is that you are often required to use a password after a number of hours have expired. This also applies to fingerprints too. I realise it is for security, but it truly is a pain. My Windows PC has face unlock and it not only recognises me at some distance, but so far I've not needed a password in nine months or so since buying it.
I work with my hands and my fingerprints must become worn, cut or just plain dirty and I find optical fingerprint readers fail to recognise my fingers or thumbs from day to day, hour to hour. Ultrasonic or at least physical fingerprint readers work far better for me. So if Google can add face unlock, I would be grateful. Even if it is a greater security risk.
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Had many inexpensive Chinese 'phones where face unlock is flawless, in near darkness too. My Smartisan is superb in any light, my TCL 10 Pro not so good, even in good light. It has been suggested that face unlock is not very secure (particularly the Chinese models) but I've never managed to fool it with anyone else's face, in a mirror, photographs or random objects . I really like face unlock though one of the problems with more recent versions of Android is that you are often required to use a password after a number of hours have expired. This also applies to fingerprints too. I realise it is for security, but it truly is a pain. My Windows PC has face unlock and it not only recognises me at some distance, but so far I've not needed a password in nine months or so since buying it.
I work with my hands and my fingerprints must become worn, cut or just plain dirty and I find optical fingerprint readers fail to recognise my fingers or thumbs from day to day, hour to hour. Ultrasonic or at least physical fingerprint readers work far better for me. So if Google can add face unlock, I would be grateful. Even if it is a greater security risk.
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I'm in the same boat, I'm old, my fingertips are worn and getting fp unlock to work is a challenge at best.
On my OP7 (current device) I've been using face unlock for almost 2 years without a single issue. When I initially set it up I was only messing around so I set it up in bed while watching TV, with very dim lighting. But thanks to that it works every time, it's never failed under any lighting and 7 times out of 10 even works at the grocery when I'm wearing my mask.
I'll be using Swipe or None on my Pixel 6 lockscreen now because Google removed face unlock "for security" ... not sure how Swipe/None are more secure though, it's simply ridiculous and makes no sense at all.
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I'm in the same boat, I'm old, my fingertips are worn and getting fp unlock to work is a challenge at best.
On my OP7 (current device) I've been using face unlock for almost 2 years without a single issue. When I initially set it up I was only messing around so I set it up in bed while watching TV, with very dim lighting. But thanks to that it works every time, it's never failed under any lighting and 7 times out of 10 even works at the grocery when I'm wearing my mask.
I'll be using Swipe or None on my Pixel 6 lockscreen now because Google removed face unlock "for security" ... not sure how Swipe/None are more secure though, it's simply ridiculous and makes no sense at all.
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I do wish they had both and was kind of counting on it due to earlier reports. I am also, I'll call it elderly since "old" seems to be a state of mind. I have trouble sometimes with FP especially in certain environments such as dry weather or wrinkly skin after swimming. I've taken to one hand mode so I can enter the keys rather quickly although I do curse at it most of the time. My experience with face unlock on the P4 was rather good in all kinds of lighting until face masks became ubiquitous. Then it didn't work at all. Apple figured it out but you needed an iWatch (is that what they call it?) in order to make it flawless and that is not acceptable to most users of Android. But hopefully they will enable both in the future perhaps with a software update or dare I say it, the P7?
mkstevo said:
Had many inexpensive Chinese 'phones where face unlock is flawless, in near darkness too.
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Your face is now the property of the PRC.
I suspect Face Unlock will show up on the Pixel 6 in due time. Unfortunate that is not there in release.
I wouldn't be surprised for this to show up as a software update in the future officially, given the difficulties being experienced with the in-screen fingerprint sensor combined with screen protectors.
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Almost certainly! Especially as a few have been direct imports of brands not sold (widely, if at all) out of the Chinese markets.