Major Update Released for Galaxy S23, Improves Camera - TizenHelp
As promised earlier this month, Samsung is now releasing a major software update for the Galaxy S23 series. The major focus of the software is to improve the camera performance & Gallery of Galaxy S23, S23+ & S23 Ultra. In the past, many users complained about the camera and other features, so...
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1. A function has been added to the gallery so that you can immediately delete photos that are being processed immediately after taking them with the camera.
2. For faster photo taking, the AF concept has been changed so that when the user presses the shooting button, the user can take a photo even when the focus is not completely set.
However, if you want to shoot after completing Focus as before, please change the settings in the latest Camera Assistant.
3. Improved sharpness/flicker and added notice when shooting Ultrawide in low light indoors after setting Camera Video Mode > Super Steady On.
4. Fixed a phenomenon where a green line was displayed on the left side intermittently when shooting in the rear photo mode.
5. Improved image stabilization when shooting with FHD60 after setting Auto FPS Off in the rear video.
6. Improved line-shaped banding noise in the sky in mid-low light when shooting high-pixel in low-mid light.
Overall sharpness was optimized during high-pixel shooting, and intermittent blurring was improved through OIS stabilization.
7. Fixed a malfunction when shooting after Night Off in low light after selecting Shooting Speed > High Resolution > Speed Priority in Camera Assistant.
8. Fixed an issue where face recognition could not be recognized intermittently after ending a 3rd party video call.
9. Stability has been improved for camera movements introduced through other routes.
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Nice and specially the faster photo taking, but I don't see anything about post-processing...
I can see some post-processing things. Point 3 - more sharpening, <sarcasm on> because out of the box Samsung is applying to less <sarcasm off>.
As predicted, no serious change. stock camera picture will continue to suck.
Luckily we have gcam on this device (the reason I went back to Samsung after 10 years)
Fl1nt91 said:
As predicted, no serious change. stock camera picture will continue to suck.
Luckily we have gcam on this device (the reason I went back to Samsung after 10 years)
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Yes, I'm using GCAM as well and I'm quite happy with the picture quality, but it is frustrating that you need to use 3rd party app to make a camera for a such expensive device (which is by the way advertised as a camera-oriented one with exceptional quality) usable. And would be nice to make better use of that high-resolution sensor that we have. I know, that it is not possible to heave real 200Mpix or even 50Mpix pictures, but with good algorithms that would be more than 12Mpix that we have in the GCAM.
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Yes, I'm using GCAM as well and I'm quite happy with the picture quality, but it is frustrating that you need to use 3rd party app to make a camera for a such expensive device (which is by the way advertised as a camera-oriented one with exceptional quality) usable. And would be nice to make better use of that high-resolution sensor that we have. I know, that it is not possible to heave real 200Mpix or even 50Mpix pictures, but with good algorithms that would be more than 12Mpix that we have in the GCAM.
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Agree, is so annoying
I hope this update will fix the photos and especially - the video stabilization bug that is unacceptable in a phone of such class.
In march I once had a pretty important event of which I took a couple of videos. All of them are shaky as hell - there is literally zero video stabilization on them. Pretty annoying given that the stabilization on S23 series is great and WAS great with january security patch, but they destroyed it in February or March patch.
Photos are also an oversharpened disaster. Can't wait for the update.
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I hope this update will fix the photos and especially - the video stabilization bug that is unacceptable in a phone of such class.
In march I once had a pretty important event of which I took a couple of videos. All of them are shaky as hell - there is literally zero video stabilization on them. Pretty annoying given that the stabilization on S23 series is great and WAS great with january security patch, but they destroyed it in February or March patch.
Photos are also an oversharpened disaster. Can't wait for the update.
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If you were shooting fhd 60 fps then yes, that issue has been addressed. As for the rest, nope. Check first post for release notes.
chetszot said:
I hope this update will fix the photos and especially - the video stabilization bug that is unacceptable in a phone of such class.
In march I once had a pretty important event of which I took a couple of videos. All of them are shaky as hell - there is literally zero video stabilization on them. Pretty annoying given that the stabilization on S23 series is great and WAS great with january security patch, but they destroyed it in February or March patch.
Photos are also an oversharpened disaster. Can't wait for the update.
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Enable auto FPS until this update is released. This fixes stabilization issue on [email protected]
Probably in preparation of camera update, received an update of Camera Assistant (CA) app. New feature is reported:
"-Prioritize focus over speed
Wait for the camera to finish focusing before triggering the shutter. This may delay the shutter slightly."
The feature is actually not (yet) visible in the CA-app...
What's a gcam profile for the 23u?
I'm hoping it will stop the over saturation and balance photos better. Sometimes the colors it shows defy reality!
ekerbuddyeker said:
I'm hoping it will stop the over saturation and balance photos better. Sometimes the colors it shows defy reality!
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You have high hopes. There is nothing about that is the changelog.
I'll wait for the update to be released before offering an opinion on how good or bad it is.
Seems like minor update that's tweaking AF on stills and bunch of video mode fixes. Unless they don't list other tweaks
In The Netherlands the update is not there yet.
hill67 said:
In The Netherlands the update is not there yet.
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Don't worry, it's released only in S. Korea so far and nowhere else in this milky way galaxy. All are waiting.
Installing firm from 918N into 918B is an option ?
I mean ... is it just a CSC question or the phones are different in terms of hardware ?
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Installing firm from 918N into 918B is an option ?
I mean ... is it just a CSC question or the phones are different in terms of hardware ?
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Different hardware unfortunately
Fl1nt91 said:
As predicted, no serious change. stock camera picture will continue to suck.
Luckily we have gcam on this device (the reason I went back to Samsung after 10 years)
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Suck? Do you have parkinson's?
The camera while not perfect performs brilliantly .
Return yours
Mine is the best S Series Camera to date.
Must be a batch difference.
I took over 300 pics and vids comparing s22U to S23U and my results coincided with most every experienced YouTube reviewer.....overall: damned good with improvements expected
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After oreo update my camera quality turned from great to sometimes impressive to pure disappointment. Photos come out blurry with no details on objects or faces or hair. Is there a way to fix it? I took a look at the settings everything is set to its max quality setting. Hdr did nothing to improve results, same bad quality with auto, on or off. Google camera app also produces similar quality results. Any suggestions?
I can say, without doubt, it has something to do with your phone specifically.
Have the stock Oreo update here, both front and back cameras work fantastically. Nothing like you describe.
First, I'd try a factory reset, make sure the lenses are clean, and re-check them.
You didn't mention if you were referring to the back or front camera.
Selfies with the LG app are still awful, as they were with Nougat, although in Oreo there is a slider to adjust the level of image processing, But even at the minimal level when you zoom in it looks like a brush drawing.
The above problem can be completely overcome using the ported GCam app, discussed extensively in other threads.
In contrast, the native camera app does an excellent job with the main cameras in most scenarios, especially with the new "bright mode" in very low light situations.
Again, in certain situations the Gcam does a slightly better job. The main issue with GCam is that it uses "bursts" of photos and then HDR processing to make these great sharp photos. This works great in static situations but if the subject is moving (like with children) there will inevitably be blur of the subject. In these situations the LG app does a better job.
Since you are reporting a problem specific to your device there is probably no "fix" other than try resetting it, use Gcam, or there is physical damage to your camera.
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After oreo update my camera quality turned from great to sometimes impressive to pure disappointment. Photos come out blurry with no details on objects or faces or hair. Is there a way to fix it? I took a look at the settings everything is set to its max quality setting. Hdr did nothing to improve results, same bad quality with auto, on or off. Google camera app also produces similar quality results. Any suggestions?
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Again, in certain situations the Gcam does a slightly better job. The main issue with GCam is that it uses "bursts" of photos and then HDR processing to make these great sharp photos. This works great in static situations but if the subject is moving (like with children) there will inevitably be blur of the subject. In these situations the LG app does a better job.
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Haven't run into that problem with the Gcam I'm using. Though I use normal HDR+ and not HDR+ enhanced.
Yeah sorry for not fully describing the issue. I have some pre update photos from the back main sensor as well as the wide angle one that look fantastic , after I updated to oreo , everything turned blurry and washed out. Will try to factory reset the phone and take some sample shots to check if there is any difference . Thank you all for the replies.
Let down by the same issue.post oreo update the photographs from back camera are overexposed and washed out and the colour accuracy and clarity has taken a kick in the gut.
Same here, since the Q Lens option has appeared on the screen.I still have my lgg4 and thats crystal
What about try to replace Oreo camera with Nougat (7.0) one? It would be nice to compare pics from both versions in Oreo (any download Nougat camera only?).
So I finally updated my Mate 10 from China with EMUI 9, I couldn't get OTA updates for the past year or so and I was stuck with software from April, so, old stuff. Now I got EMUI 9 and I have some things to note that possibly not many noticed because I got all these in one update rather than many in between:
Camera quality is better, the auto mode doesn't overexpose anymore and as result the photos are just way better now and I don't have to use exposure compensation every time I take a pic on auto. Of course detail and noise reduction didn't change, its basically the same camera but now the auto exposure just works way better and all the photos look noticeably better to my eye, and no this is not placebo, I've taken thousands of photos with my Mate 10 and I know the difference it made.
Camera app and features.
#1. I love the new camera features, the 960 FPS video with the Samsung motion detection feature is amazing, Sony does slow motion better (1080p 960fps) but this is good for me!
#2. Night mode works, hallelujah! it works! I had my doubts when this update rolled out to the phones as to how similar it truly was to the P20 Pro night mode, was it the same or was it a lesser feature just named similarly to trick us? Turns out, it's the same, it really does take 4 second shots with AI stabilization hand-held mode. And it's glorious, it's really really good both quality wise and usage wise.
#3. AI master. Improved AI scene recognition, more scenes detected, better less aggressive tuning, and you can turn it off! What's not to like? I usually leave this on most of the time because I take a lot of casual photos with friends and when outside, so I like the added pop and they look like ready to post photos, don't have to edit them. But I also like that when I need more control I can disable it.
#4. Portrait mode improved, I didn't see this mentioned anywhere but now my portrait shots are noticeably better and edge detection works better, you get more options for the blur and just feels better overall, probably the improvements from the P20 Pro portrait mode?
very nice post!
I agree with everything you've said, and now that you said, I've tested a little and I can notice that it no longer overexposes the shot!
About night mode, I got it since the 8.1 update, what model do you have?
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Selfie portrait is gone i cant find it
I disagree that the details are the same in emui 9 and 8........I think the details in the photos decreased alot in emui 9 camera...... I notice this but I thought that I am wrong but when I saw my old photos I found that the photos size generally(1.5-2.5MB) deceased about to half comparing to the photos I have taken with emui 8 camera(3.0-4.5MB)... especially in night mode (6.5[EMUI 8]-->1.5MB[EMUI 9]) AND SELFIES ..... Yes I know that there are alot of new and awesome features in new camera app(like fixing the auto settings) but the details in the photos disappointed me??
Any one has the same problem or just my model?
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Asemx2114 said:
I disagree that the details are the same in emui 9 and 8........I think the details in the photos decreased alot in emui 9 camera...... I notice this but I thought that I am wrong but when I saw my old photos I found that the photos size generally(1.5-2.5MB) deceased about to half comparing to the photos I have taken with emui 8 camera(3.0-4.5MB)... especially in night mode (6.5[EMUI 8]-->1.5MB[EMUI 9]) AND SELFIES ..... Yes I know that there are alot of new and awesome features in new camera app(like fixing the auto settings) but the details in the photos disappointed me
Any one has the same problem or just my model?
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Your first clue should have been the photo sizes, it's not that the detail is any less, the jpg compression is higher so the "quality" will be less. You might want to check if you can change the jpg settings, or better yet take your photo in raw format as that uses no compression.
Can you share your camera app?
im on latest camera update emui 9.1.. loss the detail in the result.. how to turn of the beautification mode sir? on level 0, the picture result still like on the beautification.. loss the detail a lot..
shoot in raw, spend some quality time on quality results, quit comparing jpeg mediocre processing on mobile phones
Hello,
I recently got a new Mate 10 Pro. I tested the camera and I think that the photos looks ok, but the video quality is not as good. The videos in 4K look ok, but in 1080p/30fps and 1080p/60fps the videos looks bad, noisy.
I updated the phone to Android 9 and EMUI 9 before I shoot the photos and the videos, so I don't know the quality before the update.
Another problem is that I cannot find the video stabilization ON/OFF setting. At one moment I found it, but I don't know if it was before or after the Android 9 update.
I also saw that sometimes the autofocus is not properly working when shooting videos.
My software version is 9.0.0.161.
1. Are there any problems regarding the update or my phone is broken ?
2. Does anyone also have those problems ?
Hi, I don't think you have a hardware problem. I have this phone since 16th november of 2018, with Oreo 8.0.0.157 C432-L29, i didn't have those problems. In Android Pie i think the app doesn't have the same performance like Oreo's. The AI of this app is INCAPABLE of making things right now, for me. Shooting photos is better, but videos in 1080p looks a bit weird , especially in low light condition. Maybe this is the problem. Let's hope in the next updates, they will fix it and make it better.
Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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Thanks for the reply.
Is there anyone more with the same problem ?
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1st: video has been very bad on Huawei phones for a long time. It has not gotten better, even the mate 20 pro is far behind apple and Samsung.
2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
3rd: the phone has improved it’s photo quality and camera app in general over the past year I have had the phone since Jan 2018. It got updates every 2 months with new features almost every time. They added handheld night mode, face unlock, 960fps slomow, improved aperture depth detection, improved AI (looks a lot less oversaturated now) it also got gpu turbo and much much more. In the span of a year i Must say huawei impressed me.
4th: it took me some time to get to know the camera. Now my shots are much better (I use raw from pro mode) so it’s mostly about the photographer.
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2nd: stabilization only works for up to 1080p30. 1080p60 and 4K do not support stabilization thus you won’t find the setting when shooting it.
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I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
mike_8 said:
I can't find the video stabilization settings in 1080p30. This setting (stabilization on/off) does not appear in the camera menu.
Is the described problem in the first post a software or a hardware problem ? What should I do ?
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization it is software only. I have just checked and I don’t have the option in my phone either but I think it’s on automatically since there is a big crop. This is because they use the outer edges of the image sensor to make up for the movement. You can google how EIS in videos work. You can see much more when using 1080p60 so there is no EIS but when you switch to 1080p30 there is a huge crop.
Edit: I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
Hardware stabilization is optical stabilization but it does not do much (it is always on btw it is a way how the lense is built) except for removing shaking when taking photos it is especially useful in dark conditions where the shutter speed is reduced to take more light in. It will almost do nothing in videos. You can find out if a phone has optical image stabilization if you gently hit you phone close to the camera with one hand while holding it with your other there should be a little noise like there coins inside the phone.. That is because the lenses move around in order to counter camera movement from shaky hands.
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It is software since it is electronic stabilization
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The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
mike_8 said:
The problem described in the first post of this topic (the problem with noisy video quality, please have a look at the first post in this topic) it is a software or it is a hardware problem ?
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Lol sorry. Well it can’t be hardware if all is well when recording 4K or taking photos. So I guess it just doesn’t live up to your standards. In general many YouTube reviews criticize that 1080p looks more like 720p upscaled. Maybe that’s what you mean also.
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I have just tested it. Eis works on 1080p30. I was walking and shaking a lot and with 1080p60 there is a lot of shaking with 30 only very little.
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Hi,Alfred!
May I know the Android version and camera software version on your Mate during that test?
I just received my shiny S21, so far Have adjusted ok from the s10. However, I'm having alot of lag when using the camera, press the button then 5-10 seconds later the thumbnail appears. Slo-motion video stutters and is not smooth on replay! Quite a different experience from the s10 that was flawless!
Any suggestions? I've cleared data/cache for the camera app and no change.
Did you also check for Software Updates? There was a software update (AUA3) waiting for me after setting up the phone, but on my S21 Ultra. I'd imagine you may have one as well as top line in the patch notes offers "The performance of Camera has been improved" which may or may not help with your issue.
Im on AUA4 (Australia) dated 20/1/21, no doubt they will resolve it, bit frustrating but apart from that I'm really liking the experience!
I have the Snapdragon S10. I always shoot video in 4k30 HDR10+ and the results are superb. So when I bought my wife the S21 (Exynos), I immediately set her camera to the same video mode. Unfortunately, it is virtually unusable in this mode. Camera interface drops to 10 frames per second, takes a while to start, and seems to record for a good 5 seconds or so after pressing stop. The latest update specified "Camera performance improvements" but seemed to make no difference. Very disappointed and I hope this is fixed in a future update! Worried this is an Exynos-only problem.
Try clearing cam data.
Clear system cache.
Try a hard reboot (not reset!)
If cam has been update go back to factory load.
I personally don't like that it's not near instant when taking pictures. Expected better.
SiNJiN76 said:
I personally don't like that it's not near instant when taking pictures. Expected better.
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Even the best pro cams have shutter lag.
To get that kind of fast fluidity you pay big bucks; the cost of a couple of these smart phones.
All the phones including the 10+ are slow compared to my pro cam from 11 years ago.
AF lock on times though may have been similar because of the mass of the optics the lens micromotors had to move. The AF was a lot better though as were the controls. That's close to $10G of cam/lense though.
Is the already AF locked on before you hit the release?
Acquiring an AF lock takes the longest amount of time generally. Using target tracking (yellow brackets) can help reduce the time.
Considering the size of these cams they do quit well. You need to work within any cam's limitations regardless and view the world as it does.
My Exynos S20+ 5G also has this problem too. Interface is laggy, and there is almost impossible to record fluid slow motion video. I have the impression that it is even worse after the last update than before.
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Even the best pro cams have shutter lag.
To get that kind of fast fluidity you pay big bucks; the cost of a couple of these smart phones.
All the phones including the 10+ are slow compared to my pro cam from 11 years ago.
AF lock on times though may have been similar because of the mass of the optics the lens micromotors had to move. The AF was a lot better though as were the controls. That's close to $10G of cam/lense though.
Is the already AF locked on before you hit the release?
Acquiring an AF lock takes the longest amount of time generally. Using target tracking (yellow brackets) can help reduce the time.
Considering the size of these cams they do quit well. You need to work within any cam's limitations regardless and view the world as it does.
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Nah. The latest update addressed this issue. Near instant snaps. This isn't my first phone with a camera.
SiNJiN76 said:
Nah. The latest update addressed this issue. Near instant snaps. This isn't my first phone with a camera.
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A pro cam and set of lens will ruin you forever... these phones are more like toys.
cookie666 said:
I just received my shiny S21, so far Have adjusted ok from the s10. However, I'm having alot of lag when using the camera, press the button then 5-10 seconds later the thumbnail appears. Slo-motion video stutters and is not smooth on replay! Quite a different experience from the s10 that was flawless!
Any suggestions? I've cleared data/cache for the camera app and no change.
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Got the same problem latest update maybe its exnyos thing?
All of the recent updates (incl. June update) contain fixes for camera. And it seems to indeed help, however, only for few hours after update. After few hours the lag comes back...
kicikk said:
All of the recent updates (incl. June update) contain fixes for camera. And it seems to indeed help, however, only for few hours after update. After few hours the lag comes back...
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Check memory usage periodically... see if you can spot which apk is doing it.
Clear system cache.
Has anyone noticed since the April update that when zooming in (by pressing the shortcut buttons with eg. from 1X to 3X, or 3X to 10X), there is an obvious "jitter/jolt" just at the end of zooming? I can't remember it being like this prior to the update. Testing this on the S21 Ultra and S22 is all smooth without any of this "jitter/jolt" at the end of zooming. Interestingly, zooming out doesn't have this issue.
Can anyone with the April update confirm this also?
EDIT: I realised my initial description above is pretty poor - so I'll add this in this original post:
"...it's almost as if a "filter" is suddenly added on at the end of the zooming, thus giving this "jitter/jolt" appearance (often you can see this "filter" effect quite obviously when going to the 10x zoom). Again, I've just tested this on the S21 Ultra and S22, and both don't have this behaviour. This especially affects video recording when zooming in, as this "real-time filter effect" isn't pleasant to watch.
-I've seen numerous YouTube videos now (mostly before the April update, and at least one after) which confirm this behaviour, and I think must be present on all S23 (Ultra) devices."
Are you sure it's not the effect of switching which camera it's using?
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Are you sure it's not the effect of switching which camera it's using?
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Yes I think that's indeed the case, but I'm almost certain that it's got a much more obvious "jitter/jolt" at the end of zooming than before the update. Practically, this isn't really an issue for photo taking obviously, but it certainly makes video less smooth when zooming in on things.
EDIT: it's almost as if a "filter" is suddenly added on at the end of the zooming, thus giving this "jitter/jolt" feel. Again, I've just tested this on the S21 Ultra and S22, and both don't have this issue. As previously stated, it will make video recording with zooming in much less smooth in appearance.
Not only smoothness, the 3x telephoto zoom in stills is also not having the same color reproduction as other lenses. It's more on the cooler side, especially indoors in normal/off white lighting conditions
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Not only smoothness, the 3x telephoto zoom in stills is also not having the same color reproduction as other lenses. It's more on the cooler side, especially indoors in normal/off white lighting conditions
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I managed to find an example of what I mean:
It's much more obvious particularly in that specific scenario when he goes from 3X to 10X - you can see that sudden "jitter/jolt" feel right at the end of the zooming in, as if a "filter" is placed over the lens. As stated above, the S21 Ultra and S22 don't have this, and thus video recording while zooming in on things is much smoother.
I can't actually remember if this was present before the April update - to be honest, I've only really just started using the cameras more since the April update haha.
Looks like this "issue" was actually present before the April update:
You can see it quite clearly when he goes from 1X to 3X - that sudden "jolt" right at the end of the zoom.
I suppose I hadn't been using the cameras much until yesterday, so hadn't really observed/processed this in my mind. Again, you can see with older Samsung phones, this "jolt" doesn't happen at all. The fact that it's still present after the April update makes me wonder if it will ever be "fixed".
I've edited my original post for clarity of the issue.
Conclusion so far is that it seems to be a universal behaviour, and perhaps something that Samsung isn't worried about. I've seen some videos that show the iPhone side by side with the S23 Ultra and you can see it's not present on the iPhone. As I said, even the S21 Ultra didn't have this, and I'm quite surprised not more reviewers and posters are commenting on this, as it makes video recording when zooming in less pleasant to watch - somewhat a pity, as the zoom quality of Samsung's "Ultra" devices since the S20/S21 has been quite impressive otherwise.