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Hi, I saw the news (on july) that the bootloader was cracked but then the posts about it's a lie and then the custom kernels appear and I don't know if the bootloader is unlocked or not.
My question is if there will be a way to free unlock the phone (sim unlock) shortly or better go paying an unlock code.
Thank you.
The custom kernels are here because some clever devs figured out how to bypass the bootloader to load unsigned kernels.
Apparently, Zdzihu is working with a mystery dev about unlocking the bootloader, and apparently, they have done it. Nothing has been released to us about it yet however.
Regarding your question, until the bootloader is unlocked, you will need to pay an unlocking service to sim unlock your phone. If the bootloader is unlocked, you might still need to pay an unlocking service.
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Yum, no matter the bootloader is unlocked, the SIM unclocking is different and not relate to bootloader.
silveraero said:
Yum, no matter the bootloader is unlocked, the SIM unclocking is different and not relate to bootloader.
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Actually, If you remember back to the flame war between Max and the_laser, much of the hype was about SIM unlock, as unlocking the bootloader would give us direct access to where SIM lock information is stored. I believe this is one of the reasons that SE will not unlock the bootloader, as they are in agreement with various carriers to keep it locked. The carriers obviously don't want people ditching them whenever they feel like it.
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I might have misunderstood your post. Sorry about that. But the bootloader is directly related to the SIM lock, on this phone at least, hence why I stated "If the bootloader is unlocked, you might still need to pay an unlocking service."
I have the Mini Pro and I just looked in the service menu and found "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No" . Now I haven't unlocked it myself, I have only flashed the global official software. Does this mean my phone will accept custom kernels or will it brick if I try?
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First of all there isnt such thing as a stupid question. Its only easier to answer. You cannot access fastboot without unlocking the bootloader, and you cant install a custom kernel without fastboot. You need to unlock it.
thanks for your reply.
OK so fastboot is needed to flash custom kernel. got that. But even though it says "Bootloader Unlock Enabled:No" I am still able to unlock it and enable fastboot correct?
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Yes, you have to use a 3rd party app. Cant remember the name, do some research. Its somewhere in the Development for our devices.
In this page http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
says: If you see Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No that means bootloaders are already unlocked
What? No dude... When it says NO it means the bootloader is carrier locked...
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pepi74 said:
In this page http://androidflip.com/unlock-xperia-phones-bootloader-without-losing-drm-data-track-id-working/
says: If you see Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No that means bootloaders are already unlocked
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This is what made me ask the question. But after looking on here http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/instructions
it says "2.In your phone, tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked."
which made me suspect that I may not be able to unlock it whatsoever
have you bought your phone through carrier? its on contract? if yes, then sorry you cant unlock its bootloader
YES YOU CAN! But you have to pay... Or i think its for free now. Stop talking without doing some basic research first.
http://support.setool.net/showthread.php?3-UPDATES-AND-NEWS&p=75351#post75351
There. You can unlock your device by paying. THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTISMENT IT IS SIMPLY TO STOP THESE DAMN POSTS REGARDING BOOTLOADER UNLOCKING.
dumraden said:
YES YOU CAN! But you have to pay... Or i think its for free now. Stop talking without doing some basic research first.
http://support.setool.net/showthread.php?3-UPDATES-AND-NEWS&p=75351#post75351
There. You can unlock your device by paying. THIS IS NOT AN ADVERTISMENT IT IS SIMPLY TO STOP THESE DAMN POSTS REGARDING BOOTLOADER UNLOCKING.
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why are you yelling at us? keep respect, i was assuming that he knows about carrier unlocking.
I am not yelling at you. I am just sick and tired of hearing this crap about Unlocked Bootloader: No and how to solve it.
I was looking into unlocking the bootloader of my moto g 2nd edition (xt1064), and I wanted to know if there are any serious risks or warnings I should be aware of.
Risks like:
- damage to the sim card
- disabled messaging or calling
Unlocking the bootloader itself won't do any damage. It's what you do AFTER you unlock the bootloader, like installing custom ROMs that can potentially be dangerous. (Note I said POTENTIALLY)
Jake1702_ said:
Unlocking the bootloader itself won't do any damage. It's what you do AFTER you unlock the bootloader, like installing custom ROMs that can potentially be dangerous. (Note I said POTENTIALLY)
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So I can still make calls and text with an unlocked bootloader, but it's the custom ROMs I install that may do that
PotatoDew said:
So I can still make calls and text with an unlocked bootloader, but it's the custom ROMs I install that may do that
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Anything you can do without it unlocked you can do it with it unlocked. And I'm fairly certain all custom ROMS for your device will have the ability to text and call considering it's a phone. If that's not the case the developer of whatever ROM doesn't have that feature is just a moron.
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Anything you can do without it unlocked you can do it with it unlocked. And I'm fairly certain all custom ROMS for your device will have the ability to text and call considering it's a phone. If that's not the case the developer of whatever ROM doesn't have that feature is just a moron.
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Are you sure? The motorola bootloader unlocking website said that I could lose some key functions, including calling.
The website (I can't post full links):
motorola-global-portal.custhelp com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
PotatoDew said:
Are you sure? The motorola bootloader unlocking website said that I could lose some key functions, including calling.
The website (I can't post full links):
motorola-global-portal.custhelp com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a
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I checked out the website. Honestly, I've never heard of a phone losing these key functions.
According to me, the warning is about what you do after unlocking.
So, I'll say go ahead and unlock your phone.
Augustoandro said:
I checked out the website. Honestly, I've never heard of a phone losing these key functions.
According to me, the warning is about what you do after unlocking.
So, I'll say go ahead and unlock your phone.
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Alright
Thanks both of you!
I've just bought V30 and would like to root it. Preferably with Magisk.
Every guide I found requires to unlock bootloader. This is one step too far for me. Is there a way to root V30 without unlocking it's bootloader?
przemhb said:
I've just bought V30 and would like to root it. Preferably with Magisk.
Every guide I found requires to unlock bootloader. This is one step too far for me. Is there a way to root V30 without unlocking it's bootloader?
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NO.
Which variant did you buy?
With some, it's simply flashing a simple code via fastboot flash commands. On others you first have to convert to a variant which has fastboot flash commands, so you can flash that code. If you tell us which variant you bought, you will know if you have extra steps or not...
For all V30/V30+/V30S (except T-mobile H932) for bootloader unlock and root, you need to:
have fastboot flash commands
be on specific Oreo firmware
use the "fake" bootloader unlock code
install TWRP and flash Magisk (OK technically there is a way to root without installing TWRP, but it's easier with TWRP)
WTF V30/V30+/V30S Bootloader Unlock and Root
Thank you for your reply. I've bought European H930. Unbranded.
Android 8.0.0. Build: OPR1.170623.026. SW: V20d-EUR-XX. Security patch: 1.03.2018.
I don't want to loose my warranty, DRM protected stuff playback capability, etc.
These warnings from LG bootloader unlock website worry me and make me extra cautious. I have to be 100% sure none of the things will happen:
"When unlocking the bootloader, applications which require a trusted execution environment (TEE) to operate will not work properly because after unlocking the bootloader the device will no longer be trusted.
Unlocking the bootloader will also affect the DRM protection of your device, therefore some applications which require DRM protection may not work anymore or block certain functions due to this untrusted state.
Common examples for affected applications are services which offer download/streaming of paid multimedia content like music and movies or services offering mobile payment."
Is there at least reliable app+data migration utility to move my apps with data from an old (Marshmallow) phone to this new one? LG Mobile Switch didn't manage to migrate apps' data.
przemhb said:
Thank you for your reply. I've bought European H930. Unbranded.
Android 8.0.0. Build: OPR1.170623.026. SW: V20d-EUR-XX. Security patch: 1.03.2018.
I don't want to loose my warranty, DRM protected stuff playback capability, etc.
These warnings from LG bootloader unlock website worry me and make me extra cautious. I have to be 100% sure none of the things will happen:
"When unlocking the bootloader, applications which require a trusted execution environment (TEE) to operate will not work properly because after unlocking the bootloader the device will no longer be trusted.
Unlocking the bootloader will also affect the DRM protection of your device, therefore some applications which require DRM protection may not work anymore or block certain functions due to this untrusted state.
Common examples for affected applications are services which offer download/streaming of paid multimedia content like music and movies or services offering mobile payment."
Is there at least reliable app+data migration utility to move my apps with data from an old (Marshmallow) phone to this new one? LG Mobile Switch didn't manage to migrate apps' data.
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LG also throws a scary bootloader unlock warning in your face.
LG's "warning" is to keep you from rooting your phone. If you've rooted phones before, its no different.
Magisk hides root, so all apps work.
Anyone who's rooted their V30 can tell you how it is. The threads here are very active!
But it's your decision.
Is it possible to lock back the bootloader at the end of the process?
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Is it possible to lock back the bootloader at the end of the process?
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At the end of what process? Rooting? You don't seem to understand, you have to unlock the bootloader to install TWRP. You have to install TWRP to flash Magisk. OK, technically there is a way to root without TWRP (by installing a rooted kernel), but you still need bootloader unlock.
You seem hung up on bootloader unlock when it's REALLY root that LG is trying to prevent. They really couldn't care less about bootloader unlock, they are focusing on that to prevent you from rooting your phone. Because once you unlock your bootloader you are one step away from root...
Yeah, you can lock the bootloader back if you no longer want root.
Most phones require bootloader unlock to root -- Motorola, Pixel, LG, ZTE, OnePlus.
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przemhb said:
Thank you for your reply. I've bought European H930. Unbranded.
Android 8.0.0. Build: OPR1.170623.026. SW: V20d-EUR-XX. Security patch: 1.03.2018.
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I'm sorry, what is the DATE of the security patch? May, July, September? If pre-July, you are good to go. You just flash a simple code with fastboot. If July or later, you would need to temporarily downloader to pre-July 2018 firmware.
Thank you for your detailed answers! I really appreciate them.
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At the end of what process? Rooting?
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Yes. I was wondering if it is possible to lock back the bootloader once the phone is rooted, TWRP, Magisk are there. The question behind it is if having unlocked bootloader doesn't unnecessarily increase security risk (of course the main risk is to have rooted phone, and I accept it).
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Yeah, you can lock the bootloader back if you no longer want root.
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Good news. Suppose I would unroot and lock back the bootloader, then send the phone to warranty service. Is it possible for the service to discover the phone was rooted and reject my warranty claim?
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Most phones require bootloader unlock to root -- Motorola, Pixel, LG, ZTE, OnePlus.
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So far I've rooted every phone without unlocking bootloader. It was harder, but in some cases possible (Xperia Z2, Xperia V, Motorola Defy).
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I'm sorry, what is the DATE of the security patch? May, July, September? If pre-July, you are good to go. You just flash a simple code with fastboot. If July or later, you would need to temporarily downloader to pre-July 2018 firmware.
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It's March.
I am not familiar with Magisk. Is it safer from the security point of view than classic roots with SuperSu+BusyBox?
Correct me if I am wrong, but unlocking bootloader means gaining write access to boot partition. TWRP needs to be stored on it. Kernel is also there. And where is Magisk stored?
I have a LG V30 H932 device that is stuck in fastboot mode. I can get into download mode to flash kdz but that is all. I tried countless times to flash kdz to fix like what the internet says but i have no luck. Please help. I recently flashed H93220K Oreo to it. It still is stuck.
Either there is a hardware problem with your phone, or you wiped out a partition that doesn't get flashed by a KDZ but is required to boot your phone.
Hardware problem would obviously have to be handled by LG, but if you can give some more info on what you were doing that caused this to happen, I can probably help you fix it.
-- Brian
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Either there is a hardware problem with your phone, or you wiped out a partition that doesn't get flashed by a KDZ but is required to boot your phone.
Hardware problem would obviously have to be handled by LG, but if you can give some more info on what you were doing that caused this to happen, I can probably help you fix it.
-- Brian
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I unlocked, relocked, unlocked, then relocked it then tried flashing the kdz hoping it would erase the bootloader unlock counter instead i have this problem.
Kyle9312 said:
I unlocked, relocked, unlocked, then relocked it then tried flashing the kdz hoping it would erase the bootloader unlock counter -- instead i have this problem.
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You can't erase the bootloader unlock counter. Otherwise why would be of any use to the OEM/carrier to see if you have unlocked your bootloader?
EDIT: According to @runningnak3d, apparently you can erase it, but it's not easy and you needed to make preparations BEFORE unlocking the bootloader the first time.
Kyle9312 said:
I unlocked, relocked, unlocked, then relocked it then tried flashing the kdz hoping it would erase the bootloader unlock counter instead i have this problem.
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Did you let it boot each time you unlocked / relocked?
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You can't erase the bootloader unlock counter. Otherwise why would be of any use to the OEM/carrier to see if you have unlocked your bootloader?
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Actually you can reset the counter, just not by flashing a KDZ. Unlike Samsung, the unlock counter isn't stored in an eFuse.
-- Brian
runningnak3d said:
Actually you can reset the counter, just not by flashing a KDZ. Unlike Samsung, the unlock counter isn't stored in an eFuse.
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Interesting. I did not know that. In researching, I didn't find that answer. Thank you.
Then what use is it?
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Interesting. I did not know that. In researching, I didn't find that answer.
Then what use is it?
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The only way (that *I* know of) is to make a full backup ... and I mean FULL -- every partition except userdata, when you first get the phone -- heck before it even boots. When you are ready to sell your phone, or if it needs a repair and it isn't so toast that you can't do a restore, then you restore that backup. If your phone is so broke that it won't boot, I have never had LG give me grief.
-- Brian
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The only way (that *I* know of) is to make a full backup ... and I mean FULL -- every partition except userdata, when you first get the phone -- heck before it even boots. When you are ready to sell your phone, or if it needs a repair and it isn't so toast that you can't do a restore, then you restore that backup. If your phone is so broke that it won't boot, I have never had LG give me grief.
-- Brian
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Ah, I re-read your answer! So, user can NOT do by simply re-flashing KDZ. User needs to make preparations well before unlocking the bootloader the first time.
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Did you let it boot each time you unlocked / relocked?
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Yes. I had to set it up and open the dev options to allow OEM unlocking.
Is there any hope for my situation or am I up s**t creek without a paddle with this phone (pardon my language)?
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You can't erase the bootloader unlock counter. Otherwise why would be of any use to the OEM/carrier to see if you have unlocked your bootloader?
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I called LG and explained my problem and I mentioned that the bootloader is unlocked and they told me that because the bootloader is unlocked I have voided the warranty.
Also...a little side note, the LG V30 is the first V flagships I have come accross that explicitly says in the bootloader menu that unlocking it will void warranty (therefore this is where the need for a bootloader unlock counter comes in).
If your carrier sees any numbers in the bootloader menu (any trips) then they won't help you because the warranty is voided.
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I called LG and explained my problem and I mentioned that the bootloader is unlocked and they told me that because the bootloader is unlocked I have voided the warranty.
Also...a little side note, the LG V30 is the first V flagships I have come accross that explicitly says in the bootloader menu that unlocking it will void warranty (therefore this is where the need for a bootloader unlock counter comes in).
If your carrier sees any numbers in the bootloader menu (any trips) then they won't help you because the warranty is voided.
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The others that use the WTF exploit do not have to waive warranty to unlock their bootloader.
It still may be voided --but there's nothing stating that because we are doing it without LG permission.
On one of my US998 V30, I have LG's OFFICIAL bootloader unlock code. Had to jump through hoops proving I was original owner, the IMEI, the DEVICE_ID, etc -- and had to waive the warranty. Then I got the bootloader unlock code -- which only works with that one phone. After bootloader unlock, of course I had full fastboot flash commands.
T-mobile H932 doesn't have those fastboot flash commands. That's why we said the T-mobile H932 only has "fake" bootloader unlock. @runningnak3d worked around that with his laf exploit, but took some real work!
Whereas with WTF (which H932 cannot use), we don't need LG's permission so there's no AGREEMENT or NOTICE your warranty is being waived. I've used that on US998 V30+, which is NOT eligible for LG's official bootloader unlock code.
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The others that use the WTF exploit do not have to waive warranty to unlock their bootloader.
It still may be voided --but there's nothing stating that because we are doing it without LG permission.
On one of my US998 V30, I have LG's OFFICIAL bootloader unlock code. Had to jump through hoops proving I was original owner, the IMEI, the DEVICE_ID, etc -- and had to waive the warranty. Then I got the bootloader unlock code -- which only works with that one phone. After bootloader unlock, of course I had full fastboot flash commands.
T-mobile H932 doesn't have those fastboot flash commands. That's why we said the T-mobile H932 only has "fake" bootloader unlock. @runningnak3d worked around that with his laf exploit, but took some real work!
Whereas with WTF (which H932 cannot use), we don't need LG's permission so there's no AGREEMENT or NOTICE your warranty is being waived. I've used that on US998 V30+, which is NOT eligible for LG's official bootloader unlock code.
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I dont see how lecturing me about the LAF exploit is helping me fix my phone. Please stick to the topic at hand.
Kyle9312 said:
I dont see how lecturing me about the LAF exploit is helping me fix my phone. Please stick to the topic at hand.
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1) I was replying to your comment about voiding the warranty. You brought up the topic, not me.
2) You obviously did not actually read it, because I was not "lecturing"on anything. I was giving information which may help others.
3) I will reply to what I want and how I want.
4) Try a MASTER RESET .
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1) I was replying to your comment about voiding the warranty. You brought up the topic, not me.
2) You obviously did not actually read it, because I was not "lecturing"on anything. I was giving information which may help others.
3) I will reply to what I want and how I want.
4) Try a MASTER RESET .
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I tried master reset also a few times and no success.
Kyle9312 said:
I tried master reset also a few times and no success.
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I'm sorry you are in this predicament.
UPDATE
I got the bootloader unlock cohnter to reset to zero using "fastboot flashing lock" or something and it reset the counter. T-mobile replaced the device under a warrenty replacement.