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Hey guys, new to all this so go easy on me. Over the past few years I have become a bit of a tech fanatic. I like to get a phone, use for a few months then sell on while it retains value. I'm March I got the S9 Plus coming from a Note 8 and from that coming from an S8 Plus. I love Samsung through heaven and earth but have become slightly bored with their design and UI. I have been strongly considering the Huawei P20 Pro and the OnePlus 6. Can I have your thoughts please? I have read/watch so many reviews on the P20 Pro and it's seems amazing the lag is the main issue as I do now want it. I don't game, I use a phone for emails, text, whatsapp, web browsing, Twitter, Instagram etc. ?
Why not ask in those forums? This is the Galaxy S9+ forums.
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Sorry its only because I have a S9+. I'm new to this go easy haha!
Since this is the S9+ forums.... Keep the S9+?
Note 9.
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Note 9.
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Agreed, definitely this over the OP6 or P20
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If you are bored of s9 plus UI then undoubtedly you would definitely get bored of Huwawei's EMUI(yup, has bit of lags as well) and Note 9 UI will be the same as S9 plus(with slightly added refinement of samsung experience) . So as per your question and requirement, you are left with OP6. OxyGenOS is a well thought - out one with some nifty features. The OTAs bring bug sometimes but overall its a, fast fluid experience without bells and whistles.
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If you are bored of s9 plus UI then undoubtedly you would definitely get bored of Huwawei's EMUI(yup, has bit of lags as well) and Note 9 UI will be the same as S9 plus(with slightly added refinement of samsung experience) . So as per your question and requirement, you are left with OP6. OxyGenOS is a well thought - out one with some nifty features. The OTAs bring bug sometimes but overall its a, fast fluid experience without bells and whistles.
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Except coming from an S9 plus the OP6 is missing some key features.
Sd card slot.
Ip68 rating
Wireless charging
Stereo speakers (although there is a mod for this).
Sure the device is cheaper and some may not care about those features but once you have grown accustomed to them very difficult to give up!
For example, me i dont really care about the IP68 rating but will not purchase any device without the other 3 listed.
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Except coming from an S9 plus the OP6 is missing some key features.
Sd card slot.
Ip68 rating
Wireless charging
Stereo speakers (although there is a mod for this).
Sure the device is cheaper and some may not care about those features but once you have grown accustomed to them very difficult to give up!
For example, me i dont really care about the IP68 rating but will not purchase any device without the other 3 listed.
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True. Had the OP asked for a comparison I could go on and on including your points. But it seems he is bored of Samsung UI, design and trying to choose in bet^n P20 Pro and OnePlus 6. Also based on his additional requirements, I can assure that he would get a pleasant experience with the OP6.
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True. Had the OP asked for a comparison I could go on and on including your points. But it seems he is bored of Samsung UI, design and trying to choose in bet^n P20 Pro and OnePlus 6. Also based on his additional requirements, I can assure that he would get a pleasant experience with the OP6.
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In all honesty if the OP6 red version had 256gb of storage id likely pick one up myself just for the experience lol.
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In all honesty if the OP6 red version had 256gb of storage id likely pick one up myself just for the experience lol.
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Dbrand Red Dragon as rescuer....?
I wish OnePlus borrowed the meaning of red from Samsung(Burgundy).
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Dbrand Red Dragon as rescuer....?
I wish OnePlus borrowed the meaning of red from Samsung(Burgundy).
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I don't like the Samsung colour, OP got it right the device looks amazing
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Why won't you just install another launcher on the S9+? That should give you plenty of options to configure how the phone looks. Not all will change of course, but how many time do you spend in the phone's menu's
I had the Mate 10 Pro and P20, had issues with screen dimming on both phones on most all apps, great phones aside from the screen dimming. The screen would dim a couple of seconds after launching any app.
This bothered me to the point of switching to the S9 Plus, if you want a phone that works like its supposed to the S9 is it. Nothing beats the Samsung screens and design. It just works...
I had Mate10 non pro (now stolen, it was a fine Phone, but cam was not naturally for people.).
After them, my old Oneplus 3 (happy with Miui ROM),
then a Xiaomi MiA1 (boring stock Android), then MiMix2s (really good phone, but missing Netflix HD. For me Netflix HD is Import cuz i have 1:10h Train every day).
Now i got the S9+, this is the best package and also the best compromisse!
I've been also a true Samsung user for a long time and getting kinda tired of limitless samsung features and services that prevent the phone from being super snappy and eat up batterytime. Flashed Resurrection Remix ROM on the G-965F and it gave a complete different feeling i.e. near and dear to my liking but still not found a cam mod that works in portrait mode. Rooting, flashing ROMs and the like don't come without sacrifices.:cyclops:
Owning both G-965F and G-9650 models for months now and Pixel 3 XL/OnePlus 6T are in my wish-bucket list.
I had the P20 Pro and sold it mostly because I could get the S9+ for 400$ new. It has its fair share of quirks....It is noticeable laggier than the S9+ and the camera was not great when just trying to point and shoot. You could take great photos with it, but you had to fiddle with it every time to get the shot right.
The battery life is absolutely phenomenal though. The battery could easily last me 2 days. Huawei also has the same problem as Samsung though, and it is a big one for me, updating in a timely fashion.
I am waiting for the Oneplus 6t and Pixel 3 XL and will most likely be switching to one of those and giving the S9+ to my son when I do.
Hey all!
I have the OnePlus Nord 2 and I'm reviewing it for XDA. I already put up some pics on my Twitter and I've been playing with it the past few days as a daily driver. If you have any questions let me know, and I'll try to also cover them in my review 192.168.0.1 router login 192.168.l.l!
This phone does not have 5G enabled in many countries. In Portugal, for example, 5G does not work on any network operator. This is ridiculous because the phone even has 5G in its name.
There is another annoying bug which is the front camera crashing frequently when using video conferencing apps like Google Duo.
Both situations have been reported on the OnePlus forums since day 1 and so far without any solution or reaction from them.
Other than that it's a pretty good phone.
See:
OnePlus doubles down on the affordable 5G smartphone segment with the new Nord N20 5G
OnePlus is betting big on the affordable 5G smartphone segment with the new OnePlus Nord N20 5G. Read on to learn more about the device.
www.xda-developers.com
It has headphones jack
No way to unlock it yet?
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No way to unlock it yet?
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For T-Mobile version, you need to SIM unlock first even it's not related.
That's all there is no there carrier sells it the Nord 10 I have is good but time to upgrade and won't be the n20 the way it looks
The nord n20 5g is the exact same phone as the nord ce 2 lite but different size screen/body style probably some other minor differences.
Actually don't think I had to sim unlock but ran the script used in previous versions anyways
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i am not sim unlock and was able to unlock bootloader
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Ok, did you also manage to root and put a custom rom? I cannot find any online...
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There is no custom rom
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Random bar talk now, but do you think that ROM community for this phone will grow? I am considering to buy it ...
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I don't drink. But I do geek out at the comic book store.,
Root and custom rom aside. This phone the N20 in my opinion is the best phone in its price range. The only other phone on t mobile I would consider is the moto G 5G 2022. But I'm not a fan of Motorola. I had plenty of motos and they all died a common death. The charge port becomes defected.
I had the n10, n100 And the N200. I'm hooked. I like oneplus..
Currently I've only found one rom that works
The lineage Gsi. This phone can be unlocked and rooted. And virtually brick proof. However this phone is not even listed on the oneplus website.. So no OEM blessings.
This phone is only 7 months old. A twrp is in the oven.
I say yes this phone is worth it. In my opinion the n20" is the pixel 6 - Ai
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Yes, I do know that is the best in its segment, I read the review from XDA about best mobiles in 2022... Unfortunately, I am not a native speaker and I feel that I lost part of your content in the first line, if it was not just humour and the part about 1 working rom for this device.
I am addicted to custom roms phone in the last 10 years and there is where it comes my question if this good device will have one Lineage or Pixel Experience rom at all... My Poco F1 is slowly requesting pension to me. I am looking for a decent (not necessary top) mobile with squared apperance (not too long and narrow like new design) that has custom roms support. IPxx is welcome also. The other device I am watching is NOthing phone that stands a bit above my budget of less than 350 EUR / 400 USD)
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I don't drink. But I do geek out at the comic book store.,
Root and custom rom aside. This phone the N20 in my opinion is the best phone in its price range. The only other phone on t mobile I would consider is the moto G 5G 2022. But I'm not a fan of Motorola. I had plenty of motos and they all died a common death. The charge port becomes defected.
I had the n10, n100 And the N200. I'm hooked. I like oneplus..
Currently I've only found one rom that works
The lineage Gsi. This phone can be unlocked and rooted. And virtually brick proof. However this phone is not even listed on the oneplus website.. So no OEM blessings.
This phone is only 7 months old. A twrp is in the oven.
I say yes this phone is worth it. In my opinion the n20" is the pixel 6 - Ai
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I bought a prepaid Samsung Galaxy A53 ($259, but it's $199 now) after I bought the Nord N20. At first I thought the A53 was laggy and the N20 did circles around it, but after some updates I feel the A53 is a better candidate for budget device of the year (if you get it discounted on a carrier). The screen is punchier, stereo speakers are on par with my iPhone 13 too. No headphone jack though...
Anyway, about the Lineage GSI for the N20 - how does it run, buggy, ok? I don't see much about custom ROMS on here for this phone which is surprising. It is a great phone, just bored with it.
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R u bored? I got something for u to do. Port the Android 12 to gn2200
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Oh I'm only good at following guides and such, I have no idea about how to dev. But I am interested in trying the lineage GSI, which you mentioned was the only ROM that actually works on the N20. I'm just unsure of what build and how exactly to do it, don't see a whole lot of instruction other than a few posts that you made. The terms GSI & DSU, and A/B slots are new to me; I've been out of the loop since Windows phone and Galaxy s9.
Wow! I am surprised to read that the N20 has no dev work so far! It's a very nice phone for the price. I have the opportunity to get one basically for free, but I think I'll go with a N200 instead. Even though it has worse hardware it has much better community support.
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Ya the n20 is not getting much Love from the devs nor from OnePlus itself. I miss the old days when budget devices had a strong dev community. But google snatched up the talent and took away our Devs.
The Dev community of n20 is only us. I made a telegram channel for our device. You please Join in it
R u bored? I got something for u to do. Port the Android 12 to gn2200
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What is said Telegram channel?
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What is said Telegram channel?
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same question here
OnePlus Nord N20 | Official
You can view and join @oneplusnordn20 right away.
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same question here
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OnePlus N20 Root
OnePlus n20 help and Root and more.
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FYI, some info:
OnePlus reveals 10T colors, and why alert slider and camera branding are gone
OnePlus has revealed the reason why the OnePlus 10T will skip the classic alert slider and Hasselblad camera branding.
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I'm going to get this phone and they still have not yet revealed the complete specs, so I'm gonna wait for the best!
Same here. This 10T looks really nice.
I'm on 8 Pro for around 2 years now and was looking for a good successor. I've considered the Pixel 6 Pro, Xiaomi 12 Pro, Realme GT2 Pro and, sure, the OnePlus 10. These just didn't cut it for me though.
I'm really looking forward to the 10T's European release!
Edit: I wasn't aware of the fact that it can't wirelessly charge though... that's a real bummer. I use that on daily babe right now with my 8 Pro.
That and the fact that the alert slider will be absent makes me second guess if the 10T really is the phone for me.
Doubts, doubts, doubts...
Do we know how the new chip performs? Does it fix the overheating from gen 1?
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Do we know how the new chip performs? Does it fix the overheating from gen 1?
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From some reviews and the launch event, yes, and it should be 30% more efficient, but I would wait for some more long term reviews before buying. (Its also not even out so waiting is kind of a given lol) from benchmarks, it doesn't seem to do as well as other 8+ gen 1 phones in terms of score, however that may be due to not having the phone in performance mode. Until I get my hands on the phone itself tho, that's all the info I can really give.
I'm looking to buy a new phone. I'm looking at OnePlus, as I want something close to Android stock.
I'm not a power user, I just want a good daily driver that will last me a few years and has a good camera.
I initially thought about the Nord 8/128 for €300. Then, I noticed the 12/256 version is at 350, and thought it might be a better option due to extra RAM and space. appvalley tutuapp tweakbox
Then, I noticed that the Oneplus 8T is at 400 for the 8/128 version, and thought about going for that even thought it's slightly out of my initial budget... but all reviews point out that it has a crappy camera.
On the other hand, all reviews I've seen say that the Nord 2 has a good camera (or, at least, it's the better out of these 3). The 8/128 version is at 400, while the 12/256 is at 440.
So, in a pure Black Friday fashion, I went from planning to buy the Nord for 300 to aiming for the Nord 2 for 440. Am I aiming correctly, or is this a mistake I'm going to regret?
Nord 2 is much better than Nord. Period. You can do own research.
Compared to 8T the camera is better. Even get better score than OP 9
You can check:
OnePlus Nord 2 5G - DXOMARK
Everything you need to know about the Smartphone OnePlus Nord 2 5G 📱. From specifications to Pros & Cons and Scores, discover the Review by DXOMARK
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I cannot find better balanced phone than Nord 2. Reviewed OPPO, Motorola, Pixel, others OnePlus, Xiaomi, even Realme...
Few problems with being a OnePlus product and Mediatek SoC - so no easy to customize and custom ROM development. The update to Android 12 seems to bring Color OS to the phone. And seems a bit buggy, as per reports.
After almost 1 year of use rooted , very happy and stuck with latest OOS 11.3.
Edit: DN2103 12/256 bought for ~430€ on Amazon offer.
Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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I need a second phone so I looked few models. 2T was one of them. I didn't like the Android 12 + Color OS, which came out of the box. Reviewed the sub-forum for the model here.
I am concerned about Android security updates. Unfortunately with every update OP brings new, unpolished features, imho.
I like Oxygen OS. Not sure if Color OS introduced in Android 12 update and remove fastboot mode are better decisions, regarding end users ...
About the updates when feel outdated will switch to custom ROM. We will have mature ones in few months. There is some right now, too.
Cheers.
Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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Why not a Samsung , realme , OPPO , Vivo phone ? Oneplus isn't now what it was once time ago ... Support is ZERO since they passed resposability to indians more then that MTK is a pain for rooting or else . Look to Android 13 , it is developped and beta relesead , we don't have a stable Android 12 , yet and there aren't any signs to receive it soon . Every new update release is a real mess and one after other they missed important characteristic being all so minimal .
In my opinion , don't buy !!!
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OPPO and Realme are the same like OnePlus. Considering OPPO X3 Pro which is about 800€ now or less. Or X3 Neo ( a bit dated soc and screen ) but I am afraid that what happens with OnePlus will happens with two other brands. Realme GT2 an GT2 Pro are interesting, but as part of BBK we can expect the same. Buggy software and zero support as you stated.
About Samsung there are some not user friendly problems as I read, with the latest models, so discarded. Vivo 80 plus look great but it's price is 3x of my Nord 2.
What you really suggest to buy for 400-800€? Pixel 6? There are few review about it. Motorola Edge 30+ is now 600€. Maybe will go for it. And again, what are your suggestions? Thanks.
@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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@ roldev : You're right , it's hard to pick one on global market phones today . We have a imense mid-range market , High-end are very expensive . What I noticed is all manufacturers have serious problems with software platforms like all specialist developpers are gone on other planets . Oppo , OnePlus , Xiaomi even Samsung released huge buggy updates beyond any understanding reasons . A few years ago there were updates tested and tested and tested and afterthat they released them by OTA or else . Today all seems to be a bunch of amateurs . It can't be right this way . Maybe all brands rushed to reveal a lot of new (but old) phones only for earn quick money to cover some market needs .
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You are right. They focused on quantity and not on quality, to be more " competitive ". Investing in production and not in support.
My goal is to get a mid range phone with stable lineage os support. Hope this one will get such, despite of the Mediatek SoC.
Cheers.
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Why not the Nord 2T? The base model is only 20€ more expensive than the Nord 2 base model. I gifted it to a family member (not a power user) recently and they're very happy with it.
Also if software updates are important to you, you will get 1 more Android update on the Nord 2T vs the Nord 2.
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Nord 2T get 2 update for Android 13 & 14
Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Balanced device in a good price. Unfortunately, the OxygenOS updates are always very delayed. On the other hand, I have not experienced any important bug yet. For me, the ColorOS transition was successful. You can choose Nord 2T, it's slightly better.
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Thank you.
ColorOS better than Oxygen OS? I hope you are right. 2T vs 2. Can you provide data? Not the marketing ones. Any benchmark or unbiased review? Newer not always means better, trust me.
1300 is rebranded 1200 with less performance.
The new firmware become more 'closed' to avoid need of support...
Two examples.
Sold my Nord 2 after two months. Far to many errors with it....
Assistant wont work from the lockscreen
Whatsapp voice message recording stops after 2 secs
Often charging only to 80% with optimized charging disabled
Bluetooth volume in car all over the place and not staying where I set it.
And also this "still on Android 11" update farce.....
Got a Xiaomi 11 T pro now which is much better value for money....
@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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@terry_mccann maybe you got refurbished and 'tweaked' unit.
11 months with the Nord 2, here and did not face such problems, neither others.
Rock solid, stable, good performance and usability staying on oos 11 a_20.
Always update few months later to be sure that the bugs are fixed.
Despite de Mediatek SoC, there are few custom roms on active development for future. Lineage, Leos, Pixel experience, phh among others.
Even more, today bought the second Nord 2 on offer 350€ for 12/256 so I will clone 1:1 my 2 phones.
I choosed this model over OnePlus 9 pro for 660€ (12/256), Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€....
The Nord 2 works well in my office with demanding workflow, in the fitness and the swimming pool, supporting some humidity even no oficial IP rating.
No bugs here. Rooted with magisk for 11 months. Hope this helps.
Cheers.
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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" Motorola Edge 30 pro (12/256) for 540€ or Motorola Edge 30 (8/128) for 360€...." , oh man , those two phone have GG3 on front and GG5 on back . In my opinion I couldn't see any stupid thing like that in history of manufacturers , it's so retarded ideea ... Despite their capabilities such of error with Corning Gorilla Glass is a real mess .
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Yeah, their reason is that GC3 has better scratch resistance than GC5. So it's ok if you never drop your phone
Few bad decisions about this phone avoid it to be really good.
Really hope to have good 100% working custom ROM with easy update for the Nord 2. It's very popular and there's a lot projects...