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Hi guys,
Finally, kernel sources have been released. Here's the link : https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/cancro-kk-oss
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After being fed up for long time, we have some good news to cheer about. And the news is from Hugo Barra again. I was going through YouTube and saw Hugo answering 2 people in the comments section about the kernel sources.
Q.1 by Ryan Berkeley -
"Redundant, because I asked this question on another youtube video of yours. Here's the question. When are the kernals going to be released? According to GPL, that needs to be released and we might get a sub forum on XDA for it? This phone isn't for me, but once the phone crosses the warranty stage, I'd like to see it last longer than a mere 2 years like my #lgoptimus2x"
Reply from Hugo : Mi 3 kernel source coming in the next few weeks, please stand by!""
Q.2 by Anish Pawar -
"When is Xiaomi releasing kernel sources for mi3?"
Reply from Hugo : "n a few weeks, we're really sorry about the delay! Has to do with the fact that Mi 4 is using the same kernel source, so we're just putting the finishing touches on what we plan to release.
Source :
Comment 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTQsoA4XPdE&google_comment_id=z13kxh2htq20hfkjo04chf5bmozhvhwinyk0k
Comment 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTQsoA4XPdE&google_comment_id=z12rebxbblrbcjkyn04cctxjgquje5b4q20
About Hugo Barra's answer on Q2. That's what I've been suspecting long time ago. Well my thought was correct.
I'm a little skeptical to be honest... If mi3 shares the same kernel as mi4 I doubt they would want to release the kernel sources... They may not release the full source... Let's see how this goes!
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All we can do is just hope that this time he keeps up his promise!!!Amen
thing is he gave both answers about a month ago, so "a few weeks" have already passed... anyway, let's hope they will eventually release the sources as they are supposed to.
Would be nice..
The frustrated dream of MI3.
It's been a month since Hugo Barra made those comments (in "a few weeks", he said) and still no source code.
Is now reaching the end of the trial period of the Android development for MI3 on this website.
Developers are already getting tired of it.
And users like me are already planning to resell the mobile we thought, with your design and specifications and knowing it would be released "soon" the source code would be one of the best phones of the moment.
For that, stay Xiami no sales, no customers, no developers and only (yes) MIUI fanatics. Nothing more.
Sad end to what could have been a nice story. Thanks, Xiaomi, frustrate many dreams. The source code will come when people least expect or need: when developers of the best roms third have already thrown in the towel. :crying:
borx28 said:
It's been a month since Hugo Barra made those comments (in "a few weeks", he said) and still no source code.
Is now reaching the end of the trial period of the Android development for MI3 on this website.
Developers are already getting tired of it.
And users like me are already planning to resell the mobile we thought, with your design and specifications and knowing it would be released "soon" the source code would be one of the best phones of the moment.
For that, stay Xiami no sales, no customers, no developers and only (yes) MIUI fanatics. Nothing more.
Sad end to what could have been a nice story. Thanks, Xiaomi, frustrate many dreams. The source code will come when people least expect or need: when developers of the best roms third have already thrown in the towel. :crying:
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This is very dis heartening HUGO can u listen!!
Damn, I just got this phone coming from Optimus G pro. I was hoping for the great development considering the hardware this phone has. Hoping to get the source code soon.
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Very selfish move Hugo
For me cyanogenmod is far better than miui of course miui has an eye candy looks but uses a lotta ram to run.come on men 2015 is coming release the kraken now I mean the source code.please we beg you not every one like MiUi
I think they will only release the kernel sources after the Miui with Android Lollipop base.They know that if they release sooner the Cm will take over Mi3 with Cm12
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Spam Hugo barra?
How about spamming him on google plus? not many comments in there.....
That's because they keep getting deleted.
Well that's good news for Mi3 owners (if it actually comes true). It be would be nice to see the Mi4 kernel source get released considering their the same thing. But it seems like Xiaomi is going to release Mi3 sources but keep Mi4 closed. Yay
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they're stopping mi3 pre-sales in my country..guess they're goin ready for mi4 here...
well..not really in my interest...
guess they will release it afterward
Patience people? Or people on this earth just impatience...
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Patience people? Or people on this earth just impatience...
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Patience ????? Xiaomi has Crossed Patience Limit and Its Reaching Alarming Point....They are just breaking GPL Rules...They exist here once if they enter US selling this device it will be banned within no time without kernel sources under GPL...
If Xiaomi will sell their product in the US, Apple will definitely eat them. Lol! Mi Launcher really looks like the iOS launcher and Apple will definitely sue them for that. I know Xiaomi knows it thats why they keep it in Asia, and that's why they're not a good follower of the GPL, coz if they're in the US they'll definitely need to release the code after the device. Tsk!
Sooo no chances guys?
Hugo bara is ignorant, smiling, talking about youth and positive energy ....etc
But we the users don't give a single f... about it we need the friging sorcery codes and we'll be full of youth and energy guaranteed.
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The first half of the year is pretty much over. There has been absolutely no noise about the update from Huawei. Our beloved Tom hasn't had the chance to work on our phone for about 4 months now. Things are not looking good for our phone.
Shall we try and start a bounty for CM? Whoever decides to take on the challenge wouldn't be starting from scratch anyway. However, I do feel terrible suggesting this as I do not have a PayPal account or a credit card or anything like that. I don't know how I could donate, and gifting apps or Google Play credit isn't a thing.
Or shall we just wait since we've already waited this long? I really want to believe that Huawei is not dense enough to cancel the update again, but I'm not sure what to think anymore.
What shall we do?
ScoobSTi said:
The first half of the year is pretty much over. There has been absolutely no noise about the update from Huawei. Our beloved Tom hasn't had the chance to work on our phone for about 4 months now. Things are not looking good for our phone.
Shall we try and start a bounty for CM? Whoever decides to take on the challenge wouldn't be starting from scratch anyway. However, I do feel terrible suggesting this as I do not have a PayPal account or a credit card or anything like that. I don't know how I could donate, and gifting apps or Google Play credit isn't a thing.
Or shall we just wait since we've already waited this long? I really want to believe that Huawei is not dense enough to cancel the update again, but I'm not sure what to think anymore.
What shall we do?
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I have a paypal and google account and I would pay a hefty sum to have CM on my HAM2. Maybe $150
I suggested this about half a year ago but then Huawei promised Lollipop update so nobody paid enough attention to CM.
Here's the CM thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/101462-huawei-ascend-mate-2-mt2l03-device-request/
There are not that many request. Most rely on Huawei promise.
lucasho2312 said:
I suggested this about half a year ago but then Huawei promised Lollipop update so nobody paid enough attention to CM.
Here's the CM thread: http://forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/101462-huawei-ascend-mate-2-mt2l03-device-request/
There are not that many request. Most rely on Huawei promise.
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I bet the Huawei devs are waiting on the CM devs to do the work for them. Or maybe the other way around. Why reinvent what works or is the easiest (most efficient) way to so something? So we all end up waiting.... LOL!
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Tom actually said that he needed files from Huawei's update to continue with CM, so I wouldn't hold your breath. He got a lot of stuff working but something is too outdated (go figure) to get it to a usable state.
How my dream phone mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
Mi5 was my dream phone, I had created a post at miui forum...
But 10 days and mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
I had fell in love with speed and beauty of the phone, with hybrid case it look so cool. People were jealous of it. But happy time ended soon...
Don't go for looks, they deceive you...
And what do i need to say about build quality, aluminum gets dent on simple force. You have to use super hybrid case.
The mi Protect Scam
I called the Mi Assist for activation of mi protect, but it wasn't activated even after calling 5 times. When I went service center, they don't have any spares parts for the mi5 phone... Why the hell you sell mi protect when you don't even have the provisions. Funny thing was mi assist marketing department, called me to insure my other devices... I always said first activate for what I paid for... Mi protect is a scam, indeed.
Just a hype, no global stable ROM for Mi 5
Mi 5 is your flagship, how come Xiaomi team are so lethargic about global ROM. If you can't be loyal to global users then why you made fake claims and why Xiaomi released the phone for Rest of the world.
The Amount of defective Mi5 phones are too high....
My camera had defect, home button wasn't responsive to soft press, over heating,I waited with hopes for updates but i lost mind when physical defect were discovered in camera. Im freelancer which demands me to use front camera for live assistance. My assignments are international (European) so phone is the only way of getting connected anytime and anywhere. Clients started complaining about white dots on my videos and phone heated too much while live assistance. It made impossible for me to continue and which spoiled my ratings.
I immediately went mi service center, thank god engineer at service center confirmed the defect in phone. The engineer tested for water damage and physical damage. After confirming device problem, he issued fault in device memo. Which helped me to request for replacement. It was luckily 10th day, from the date of purchase... Finally, successfully request was submitted.
Bluedart guy came within an 24 hour and picked up the phone.
The replacement product was also defective!!!! Xiaomi dont have any polices for get a defective replacement!
BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.
I'm without a phone and also I sold my iPhone 5s for Mi5!! You can refer my post where I mentioned about selling iPhone 5s for Mi5. Thought iPhone wasn't great but going for Mi 5 was a mistake.
Spoke to customer care of mi India but they are hopeless and clueless.
They kept me on hold for asking trivial information, which wasn't related to my problem. Just for the sake of passing time. They keep on hold and after coming back from hold they speak as if they are talking for first time. Im fedup of the harrasment. I even said to deduct shipping cost and refund me the balance amount but they are so rigit.
The service which mi india provides is a pure harrasment.
I wish mi.com had refund policy and I move away from this hell. I'm disappointed and without further loss... im sure mi phones are having high chances of being defective as only lower variants are available which are unsold stock of china.
I can't afford this to be repeated.
But let's face it, Mi won't give refund.We all have to learn something from here. And beware of the mi policies and services.
There are too many problems in Mi5. Xiaomi need to fix what it can via software updates, ASAP. Also, this is a honest review for mi 5 which will help many buyers to know the real face of mi5 and mi. Only the engineer at service center was indeed helpful, I accept that. No doubts about other products, but people need to know the honest reviews not just fanboys flaunting just cause of getting forum credits at miui forum. Cause we build expectations from it and get disappointed.
The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits. When its time to help, they turn deaf ears. Very few helpful mods, which are hardworking....
Hope this helps users before making decision for Mi 5and also an eye opener for Xiaomi...
XDA is great, I missed you.
After a long time I'm posting on XDA. I use to own Samsung galaxy grand and s2...
I don't know how you using your phone...
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yiwsg said:
I don't know how you using your phone...
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Mate, can you please elobrate??
This doesn't sound very good. Hopefully your experience isn't encountered by others
unfortunately, this seems to be the real situation with so appreciated Mi 5 at the moment.
I was so eager to read each news and announcement about it, I was waiting for a really great phone with affordable price for so long, and in the end, it seems that all of us got just a big hype around quite troubled phone.
some of the issues with the phone could be theoretically solved in the future:
- shaky video recording could be improved by pairing EIS with existing OIS
- overall photo quality could be improved by using some 3rd party app and/or different camera driver
- not-so-widely adored MIUI could be replaced with some custom ROMs after kernel source is released
- one could try to be more cautious and not brake/bend the phone
- Xiaomi support could start acting as a useful service
- useless MIUI spam forum could be closed and people could get their unlock code without a need to post >500 "great"/"awesome"/"cool" replies on the newest Mi 5 screenshot
but, for some of those points Xiaomi has to change its own policy.
that's something, I'm afraid, we will not see in at least next 3 to 5 years...
had the phone from day no such issues.
not a single one u have pointed out.
berz said:
had the phone from day no such issues.
not a single one u have pointed out.
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Had mine for weeks now and not seen any of those issues either.
berz said:
had the phone from day no such issues.
not a single one u have pointed out.
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skoobee said:
Had mine for weeks now and not seen any of those issues either.
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Good to know
Can you tel from where u guys bought it??
Thanks
tnttrx said:
- useless MIUI spam forum could be closed and people could get their unlock code without a need to post >500 "great"/"awesome"/"cool" replies on the newest Mi 5 screenshot
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I agree, mainly, in that point. What a sh*t* forum!
Same here
I´m very disappointed too.
There are a lot of small things that bother me:
Alarm doesn't work unless you interact with the phone (even hours later)
Delayed synchronization on almost all application, (notifications coming all at once after 10 min, WIFI or 3G)
Camera focus working really bad ( tried with different applications, all of them with bad results )
Contacts or Calls stopping working from the beginning
Spotify doesn't play next song unless you open the app
Even I have problems connecting to Xiaomi Band 1s
I had a Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 4 before and these things are very annoying. I have to use another mobile to wake up in the morning....
I can't wait to install cyanogenmod.
Anyway I'll never buy a Xiaomi again, I hate MIUI and after all this I prefer to pay more and have a good experience with a nexus.
Maybe this thread should be tweeted to Hugo Barra & Xiaomi. See if there is any response.
SlyUK said:
Maybe this thread should be tweeted to Hugo Barra & Xiaomi. See if there is any response.
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you've just got:
+10 Experience
+3 Prestige
reason:
Agreed!
post your Mi charger photo to earn a medal!
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tnttrx said:
you've just got:
+10 Experience
+3 Prestige
reason:
Agreed!
post your Mi charger photo to earn a medal!
:laugh:
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So daaamn true )
SlyUK said:
Maybe this thread should be tweeted to Hugo Barra & Xiaomi. See if there is any response.
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Haha, I already did. He doesn't respond.
DBZo07 said:
So daaamn true )
Haha, I already did. He doesn't respond.
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What a surprise !
I have another big problem with this phone. After I made a factory reset the phone got locked and needs to be activated. The device is associated with an existing Mi ID account that I never registered and is completely unknown to me, as is of course the password.
I've spent hours on their forum to get some answers on how to reassociate my phone to my own ID number. So far with no sucess.
DBZo07 said:
How my dream phone mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
Mi5 was my dream phone, I had created a post at miui forum...
But 10 days and mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
I had fell in love with speed and beauty of the phone, with hybrid case it look so cool. People were jealous of it. But happy time ended soon...
Don't go for looks, they deceive you...
And what do i need to say about build quality, aluminum gets dent on simple force. You have to use super hybrid case.
The mi Protect Scam
I called the Mi Assist for activation of mi protect, but it wasn't activated even after calling 5 times. When I went service center, they don't have any spares parts for the mi5 phone... Why the hell you sell mi protect when you don't even have the provisions. Funny thing was mi assist marketing department, called me to insure my other devices... I always said first activate for what I paid for... Mi protect is a scam, indeed.
Just a hype, no global stable ROM for Mi 5
Mi 5 is your flagship, how come Xiaomi team are so lethargic about global ROM. If you can't be loyal to global users then why you made fake claims and why Xiaomi released the phone for Rest of the world.
The Amount of defective Mi5 phones are too high....
My camera had defect, home button wasn't responsive to soft press, over heating,I waited with hopes for updates but i lost mind when physical defect were discovered in camera. Im freelancer which demands me to use front camera for live assistance. My assignments are international (European) so phone is the only way of getting connected anytime and anywhere. Clients started complaining about white dots on my videos and phone heated too much while live assistance. It made impossible for me to continue and which spoiled my ratings.
I immediately went mi service center, thank god engineer at service center confirmed the defect in phone. The engineer tested for water damage and physical damage. After confirming device problem, he issued fault in device memo. Which helped me to request for replacement. It was luckily 10th day, from the date of purchase... Finally, successfully request was submitted.
Bluedart guy came within an 24 hour and picked up the phone.
BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.
I'm without a phone and also I sold my iPhone 5s for Mi5!! You can refer my post where I mentioned about selling iPhone 5s for Mi5. Thought iPhone wasn't great but going for Mi 5 was a mistake.
Spoke to customer care of mi India but they are hopeless and clueless.
They kept me on hold for asking trivial information, which wasn't related to my problem. Just for the sake of passing time. They keep on hold and after coming back from hold they speak as if they are talking for first time. Im fedup of the harrasment. I even said to deduct shipping cost and refund me the balance amount but they are so rigit.
The service which mi india provides is a pure harrasment.
I wish mi.com had refund policy and I move away from this hell. I'm disappointed and without further loss... im sure mi phones are having high chances of being defective as only lower variants are available which are unsold stock of china.
I can't afford this to be repeated.
But let's face it, Mi won't give refund.We all have to learn something from here. And beware of the mi policies and services.
There are too many problems in Mi5. Xiaomi need to fix what it can via software updates, ASAP. Also, this is a honest review for mi 5 which will help many buyers to know the real face of mi5 and mi. Only the engineer at service center was indeed helpful, I accept that. No doubts about other products, but people need to know the honest reviews not just fanboys flaunting just cause of getting forum credits at miui forum. Cause we build expectations from it and get disappointed.
The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits. When its time to help, they turn deaf ears. Very few helpful mods, which are hardworking....
Hope this helps users before making decision for Mi 5and also an eye opener for Xiaomi...
XDA is great, I missed you.
After a long time I'm posting on XDA. I use to own Samsung galaxy grand and s2...
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It's okay to complain, but please do it reasonable.
Cut out all emotional crap from your topic and try again. But stick to facts and be reasonable.
Just as example, if you wonder what I am talking about.
->"The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits" ... 100% your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
-> "There are too many problems in Mi5." ... 100% your opinion.
How could the same look better.
You could say: I was not able to find any useful information on en.miui.com, as most appeared to me as spam. I was not able to find what I was looking for [ state what you were looking for in here]
And instead of the very general and 100% stupid comment of too many problems.
You could have written a: I encoundered these problems [ list of problems ], a good amount of people have the same [ link to topics, stating similar problems.]
Why is this important:
I think, you made a bad experience and would like to warn people from making the same mistake, that's very kind of you!
But you achieve more if you stay to facts and leave out emotions and 100%-pure opinions.
That way you really help people, because they can make their own judgment based on facts you provided.
... what you wrote looks like a baby crying, to me at least.
@alfay0m3ga i have solution for 1st,2nd,4th, and maybe 3rd and 5th
For 1,2,4 just go in recent app and do the opposite of clearing an app, just drag down one and you will see an orange lock on left top of it
Then you will have alarms, spotify and syncronization
For the others try to unlock bootloader and change rom with xiaomi eu one
TheUltrametricSpace said:
It's okay to complain, but please do it reasonable.
Cut out all emotional crap from your topic and try again. But stick to facts and be reasonable.
Just as example, if you wonder what I am talking about.
->"The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits" ... 100% your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
-> "There are too many problems in Mi5." ... 100% your opinion.
How could the same look better.
You could say: I was not able to find any useful information on en.miui.com, as most appeared to me as spam. I was not able to find what I was looking for [ state what you were looking for in here]
And instead of the very general and 100% stupid comment of too many problems.
You could have written a: I encoundered these problems [ list of problems ], a good amount of people have the same [ link to topics, stating similar problems.]
Why is this important:
I think, you made a bad experience and would like to warn people from making the same mistake, that's very kind of you!
But you achieve more if you stay to facts and leave out emotions and 100%-pure opinions.
That way you really help people, because they can make their own judgment based on facts you provided.
... what you wrote looks like a baby crying, to me at least.
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" OK Google "
Remind me to edit my OP as per suggestions.
Thanks, I'll be more specific.
sys01 said:
@alfay0m3ga i have solution for 1st,2nd,4th, and maybe 3rd and 5th
For 1,2,4 just go in recent app and do the opposite of clearing an app, just drag down one and you will see an orange lock on left top of it
Then you will have alarms, spotify and syncronization
For the others try to unlock bootloader and change rom with xiaomi eu one
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Thank you very much. You were right and it fixed some of my points.
EU rom? is it the global? I have the Global 7.2.4
@alfay0m3ga unfortunately, MIUI over android is totally different in managing app and notification
So you need to know what to do for make them working
Xiaomi.Eu rom is this one: http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
You need Bootloader unlocked, then just follow the instruction over the thread, if anything goes wrong just PM me
https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/07/zte-fined-1-billion/amp/
tl;dr: 1 billion dollars from ZTE and they're able to trade with us again.
Slightly longer version:
1) ZTE told not to trade with Iran
2) ZTE caught trading with Iran. ZTE fined and told to punish certain board members
3) ZTE caught not punishing said members, the US stops trade with ZTE
4) ZTE and the US renegotiate and ZTE has to pay the US another billion.
Axon 9 when???
The real question is............ Android 9, when?
aLexzkter said:
The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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Maaaan, Android 8.1 isn't even fully stable. At least on this device.
TPMJB said:
Maaaan, Android 8.1 isn't even fully stable. At least on this device.
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I've said it many times before, my phone has never moved from my night stand when left there, it's very stable.
aLexzkter said:
I've said it many times before, my phone has never moved from my night stand when left there, it's very stable.
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Confirmed for not living in California.
aLexzkter said:
The real question is............ Android 9, when?
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Official Android 9 for the Axon 7? Never.
Official 8.1 ? Probably, but who can say when. Could be a week, could be months from now.
MFG now that I was planning to upgrade ?
I don't think they would have the axon 9 these running year .
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Axon 9 when???
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XTE Axon 9 pls when sir??!?
My guess is that we don't get an Axon 9. They likely missed their window, have a lot of delays starting back up, and frankly even back in business are probably going to transition away from the US flagship market due to the relative lack of success of the A7.
ScaryBugThing said:
My guess is that we don't get an Axon 9. They likely missed their window, have a lot of delays starting back up, and frankly even back in business are probably going to transition away from the US flagship market due to the relative lack of success of the A7.
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AFAIK ZTE claimed that the Axon 7 was very successful. That's why they announced the Axon 9 to begin with.
im willing to bet that the axon 9 was already 80-90% done when the ban took place. the real question is how possible is it to ramp back up and make them presuming they did not lay off all of the staff necessary to complete it now that they can use the components required. who knows for sure when and/or if Axon 9 sees the light of day in the US market. i really really hope it does, but at this point, anything is possible.
Not So Fast...
There's a move in the Senate to block the proposed agreement to allow ZTE to purchase from US companies again.
Link
Interesting how a similar ArsTechnica article puts this exclusively on Republicans when Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) are also sponsors of the amendment along with Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tom Cotton (R-AK).
In the comments, to the Ars article, the author responds to that criticism by saying they needed a short headline so they say Republican senators instead of bipartisan group of senators.
I guess it's better to have a short headline than an accurate one.
I was waiting for the real Oreo version, but it looks like the NFound or Lineage version is the way it will have to be.
pauldow said:
There's a move in the Senate to block the proposed agreement to allow ZTE to purchase from US companies again.
Link
Interesting how a similar ArsTechnica article puts this exclusively on Republicans when Senators Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) are also sponsors of the amendment along with Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tom Cotton (R-AK).
In the comments, to the Ars article, the author responds to that criticism by saying they needed a short headline so they say Republican senators instead of bipartisan group of senators.
I guess it's better to have a short headline than an accurate one.
I was waiting for the real Oreo version, but it looks like the NFound or Lineage version is the way it will have to be.
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Or you can just use the real Oreo version
Which is where?
There are 3 versions of the A7 and none have an official and public Oreo release. All we heard about were test versions.
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Or you can just use the real Oreo version
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I was under the impression that the NFound version, while produced by ZTE, is still considered to be beta status.
RobboW said:
Which is where?
There are 3 versions of the A7 and none have an official and public Oreo release. All we heard about were test versions.
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I was under the impression that the NFound version, while produced by ZTE, is still considered to be beta status.
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They ARE beta, but does that make them "fake" Oreo updates? They are real, and they are really good.
The worst complaints I heard were bad battery (In my case that hasn't been apparent) and safetynet not passing, to which there's a fix. Besides that they are probably the best Oreo ROMs out there, with fully working HDR+ (which has been ported since, but still has artifacts on ROMs).
Installing any of those means modding the phone. Not a normal update. I'm still going to wait and see what happens.
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im willing to bet that the axon 9 was already 80-90% done when the ban took place. the real question is how possible is it to ramp back up and make them presuming they did not lay off all of the staff necessary to complete it now that they can use the components required. who knows for sure when and/or if Axon 9 sees the light of day in the US market. i really really hope it does, but at this point, anything is possible.
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on a sales/marketing standpoint they'd want to wait, improve and confirm they're still accepted and trusted by consumers before returning to the market with a pricier flagship product
Getting sick of the on off thing with this. Not looking like they will be back. Seems there's people in US politics hell bent on destroying ZTE.
There goes Oreo official, and the Axon 9.
This will push Chinese companies to go with Mediatek more now in the short term and I expect more Chinese SoC development even with companies not focusing on that yet. It will hurt Qualcomm long term IMO. Mediatek may reverse the decision to not do flagship SoCs with a bigger Chinese market that will result from this as they lose confidence in supply.
Expect Samsung to try to push their Exynos to other brands and I wonder if Huawei will sell to others?
The beta sources are a broken mess. The fact that the Devs have been able to do what they have with what they received is nothing short of a miracle.
Honor's recent decision to end bootloader unlocks for their phones upset the entire community, us included, and we've been working feverishly to get them to change the decision. That said, it takes time for complaints to climb the ladder of such a big company, and we've had to settle for baby steps. :fingers-crossed:
We asked Honor for the reason behind this action and this is what they said:
"\The unlock code application service was closed on May 24th for all Huawei/ Honor products as a security measure and to avoid issues caused by ROM flashing. The decision to close the page ensured Huawei/ Honor could continue to provide an excellent user experience for all global fans.
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XDA Developers are actively engaged in software development and they constantly provide valuable suggestions to optimize Honor products. Based on their feedback, that unlocked bootloaders make it easier for them to develop and create, Honor has decided to re-open bootloader unlock on an exclusive number of codes to the XDA Developer community. :highfive:
The unlock codes are available for download exclusively to XDA Developers on a first-come-first-served basis via this online form....Update: thank you to all that applied for an unlock code. We are no longer taking requests. Unlock codes will be sent out in batches, starting the week of 25 September and continuing until the end of the year. Further instructions will go out via XDA PM asap. . XDA users can apply for the codes using the form and all applicants will have the opportunity to share their feedback. It might take several weeks to receive an unlock code after requesting one, but we'll work with Honor to expedite the process as much as possible.
XDA will continue to work with Honor to give users a strong voice when decisions are made that affect their user experience. Finally, they had this to say:
Honor phones and systems have gone through rigorous testing and improvements, which is why Honor is able to offer great products at good prices for global digital natives.
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svetius said:
Honor's recent decision to end bootloader unlocks for their phones upset the entire community, us included, and we've been working feverishly to get them to change the decision. That said, it takes time for complaints to climb the ladder of such a big company, and we've had to settle for baby steps. :fingers-crossed:
We asked Honor for the reason behind this action and this is what they said:
XDA Developers are actively engaged in software development and they constantly provide valuable suggestions to optimize Honor products. Based on their feedback, that unlocked bootloaders make it easier for them to develop and create, Honor has decided to re-open bootloader unlock on an exclusive number of codes to the XDA Developer community. :highfive:
The unlock codes are available for download exclusively to XDA Developers on a first-come-first-served basis via this online form. XDA users can apply for the codes using the form and all applicants will have the opportunity to share their feedback. It might take several weeks to receive an unlock code after requesting one, but we'll work with Honor to expedite the process as much as possible.
XDA will continue to work with Honor to give users a strong voice when decisions are made that affect their user experience. Finally, they had this to say:
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Only for Honor devices?
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Daryl18 said:
Only for Honor devices?
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Yes.
This is great! +1xp to Honor!
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Well I am a Huawei owner and I already have my code. But I would like to still thank XDA for pushing this, and actually doing something.
Really hoping Huawei will come up with a solution.
To be fair, I kinda understand them. As it is right now, the OS on the phone is way too fragile, and you can end in a permanent brick way too easy.
But that is something they should fix on their end and not punish users for wanting to have control over these great devices.
Like, I love my Mate 10 Pro. It's one of the best on the market I believe. And hell, I am ready to purchase a Mate 20 (Pro?) if it comes out. But only, if we get custom OS support. Don't get me wrong, I actually like EMUI, and I totally don't get the complaints about EMUI. Trust me. If you complain about it, go and try Touchwiz. You will know hell. However, at some point, Huawei will stop providing updates or will focus on later models. At that point, I would still like to stay 'fresh' and have a lean OS. I had an S3 LTE, a Note 2, Note 4, LG G4, LG G Pro 2, and Cyanogen/Lineage and the others have given these devices new life.
Ps.: tl;dr: If we get custom roms, I keep buying them, my family will buy them, my friends will buy. If not, well, we all go to other brands.
This isn't just spitting in the face of users right?
Hope they change the decision and permanent opening bootloader again.
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Well I am a Huawei owner and I already have my code. But I would like to still thank XDA for pushing this, and actually doing something.
Really hoping Huawei will come up with a solution.
To be fair, I kinda understand them. As it is right now, the OS on the phone is way too fragile, and you can end in a permanent brick way too easy.
But that is something they should fix on their end and not punish users for wanting to have control over these great devices.
Like, I love my Mate 10 Pro. It's one of the best on the market I believe. And hell, I am ready to purchase a Mate 20 (Pro?) if it comes out. But only, if we get custom OS support. Don't get me wrong, I actually like EMUI, and I totally don't get the complaints about EMUI. Trust me. If you complain about it, go and try Touchwiz. You will know hell. However, at some point, Huawei will stop providing updates or will focus on later models. At that point, I would still like to stay 'fresh' and have a lean OS. I had an S3 LTE, a Note 2, Note 4, LG G4, LG G Pro 2, and Cyanogen/Lineage and the others have given these devices new life.
Ps.: tl;dr: If we get custom roms, I keep buying them, my family will buy them, my friends will buy. If not, well, we all go to other brands.
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Well I for one do NOT understand them. It's absolutely NONE of their business what we (who paid good money for OUR phones!) do with the devices! If we brick them or whatever breaks - it doesn't concern Huawei at all since it's not covered by any kind of warranty after we unlock the bootloader.
I bought the View 10 ONLY because of the Honor Open Source program and of course right after I got the damn thing everything shut down.
I for one will NOT support a company that treats their paying customers like dirt - this is my first and most definitely LAST Huawei/Honor device unless they do an about face, let us unlock our bootloaders and support custom roms. ?
This is great news. I'm glad that the talks with them went somewhere. Good job guys.
While I truly appreciate the effort from everyone involved in this action, this doesn't help anything. If the devices are not open for everyone, they are not open for anyone.
This is the equivalent of not escalating a situation with an angry customer and giving him what he wants, a special treatment, while all the others won't get it.
That's not fair at all.
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While I truly appreciate the effort from everyone involved in this action, this doesn't help anything. If the devices are not open for everyone, they are not open for anyone.
This is the equivalent of not escalating a situation with an angry customer and giving him what he wants, a special treatment, while all the others won't get it.
That's not fair at all.
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This is hopefully the first step to get this decision reversed at a later stage.
And regarding your analogy comparing this to an angry customer - the people who mainly are concerned by this decision are the people who would come to XDA forums anyway. This decision is more like showing special treatment to a target demographic of angry customers than a single angry customer.
what about Kernel Source codes etc for more recent devices like honor play? are they planing on releasing any?
I'm glad to see a little wiggle room on this. But as Huawei arguably has one of the top devices on market (or so I keep hearing about the P20 Pro) it also starts to make sense.
Here's hoping a good balance can be found.
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Well I for one do NOT understand them. It's absolutely NONE of their business what we (who paid good money for OUR phones!) do with the devices! If we brick them or whatever breaks - it doesn't concern Huawei at all since it's not covered by any kind of warranty after we unlock the bootloader.
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Except you don't, in the EU at least, inspite of Honour / Huawei claims software modification, including unlocking bootloader doesn't invalidate your hardware warranty.
Good to see. Well done to XDA for sticking to their guns and getting Honor to soften their stance.
Hopefully if just the start and it can become a permanent policy and the Huawei side of the business to do the same. (which I heavily doubt they will
) My P20 Pro would be a perfect phone if I could get from EMUI to stock
Hello, XDA
I am a developer, can I get this benefit to unlock the bootloader of my device Honor?
They must have seen aggresive concurrent Xiaomi taking some market share
what about lock code on Honor V10? some people write about not working old codes on ROM FW>=163 version. Via this service, Huawei sent new code for new room or include downgrading to old room warning with code?
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Except you don't, in the EU at least, inspite of Honour / Huawei claims software modification, including unlocking bootloader doesn't invalidate your hardware warranty.
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While that IS true you'll have a hard time getting any repairs done once you unlocked it - and besides, my hardware doesn't break due to me f*cking up by unlocking and flashing custom roms etc. If someone flashes a bad kernel and blows their chip due to overclocking or what have you the repair centers can still tell and refuse a warranty repair.
Either way you look at it - letting us unlock our devices does NOT cost them anything, but it will keep us buying their phones.