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Hey guys,
I have the option to either get the Redmi Note 2 new or the Oneplus One used for the same price. Now I don't know what to pick and asking you for advice.
I'm a little bit afraid about the battery life of the RN2, I've read different opinions about that.
The performance should nearly be the same as also the camera, am I right?
Also future updates (I use my phone for 2 years regulary) shouldn't be a problem on both devices or?
Which phone would you pick and why?
Thanks for your advice.
I have the redmi note 2 prime, my husband has the 1&1. We use them nearly the same time.
Camera: 1&1 does a bit better in dim conditions, prime takes crisper photos in decent light. Prime is faster from focus to photo.
Battery: same for both. I guess the redmi will be easier to equip with a replacement battery, but at the moment they are both strong. Prime charges faster.
Screen: the prime has a bigger spectrum. It gets darker and brighter than the 1&1. No other advantages.
Size: absolutely the same. The prime is more slippery. I like the grip on the 1&1 better.
I am on latest Dev Version (.24) which has a few minor bugs. I don't know on which version my husband has his 1&1 (I have no access to his mobile at the moment) They are both equally stable, no real advantage in either direction.
Reception is better on the prime. We live in a very rural area with spotty coverage. I nearly never loose connection like my husband does with the 1&1.
Having seen both mobiles I would buy the prime again. My husband will also go xiaomi next time he needs a new mobile. No real hard fact, but overall the prime seems a bit faster.
I hope this helps although it is a comparison prime vs 1&1.
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I have the redmi note 2 prime, my husband has the 1&1. We use them nearly the same time.
Camera: 1&1 does a bit better in dim conditions, prime takes crisper photos in decent light. Prime is faster from focus to photo.
Battery: same for both. I guess the redmi will be easier to equip with a replacement battery, but at the moment they are both strong. Prime charges faster.
Screen: the prime has a bigger spectrum. It gets darker and brighter than the 1&1. No other advantages.
Size: absolutely the same. The prime is more slippery. I like the grip on the 1&1 better.
I am on latest Dev Version (.24) which has a few minor bugs. I don't know on which version my husband has his 1&1 (I have no access to his mobile at the moment) They are both equally stable, no real advantage in either direction.
Reception is better on the prime. We live in a very rural area with spotty coverage. I nearly never loose connection like my husband does with the 1&1.
Having seen both mobiles I would buy the prime again. My husband will also go xiaomi next time he needs a new mobile. No real hard fact, but overall the prime seems a bit faster.
I hope this helps although it is a comparison prime vs 1&1.
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Thank you for this comparision, this really helps me a lot.
I've bought both phones will now do a little bit of testing and comparing on my own.
What I can already tell now is, that i love the design and the feeling of the OPO more, but this is of course a subjective point.
Redmi probably has faster CPU, but OPO has a better GPU, so it's better for 3D games, but it doesn't have a microSD slot.
However, I'd probably go for OPO because of better build quality and custom ROMs.
Edit: Oh, you already got both.
Hello you two, It is good to read people speaking about the redmi note 2 without complaining about the battery life. I am going to receive my prime in between the two coming weeks. Could you share to me what you think about this battery life?
Laurent
If you want AOSP and custom roms you should go with the OPO.
goldenelephant said:
Hello you two, It is good to read people speaking about the redmi note 2 without complaining about the battery life. I am going to receive my prime in between the two coming weeks. Could you share to me what you think about this battery life?
Laurent
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Normal use (about 3 hours of screen on in a day) = 2 days
No 3g no wifi and no screen = hours and hours (today without 3g wifi and screen on I did 3 hours without losing 1%)
I use it quite a bit: listening to podcasts ~ 4 hours a day, playing games ~ 1 hour checking Facebook/Mail/etc often (at least once per hour) brings me through the day. I recharge every night, so it is good enough for me if it lasts one day. I unplugged at 7:30 today and am now (12:00) at 86%.
I'm coming back to tell you which decision i made:
I'll keep the Oneplus One.
Here are the reasons, why:
First of all, the advantages of the redmi note 2 above the OPO:
- The GPS is much better, it fixes really fast (only a few seconds even indoor) and is also very accurate (3-5 meters with 10-20 satellites)
- Of course the price: it costs new the same amount of money than the OPO used.
- The replaceable battery
- The MicroSD Slot
What is in my opinion equal:
- The camera. Both are not the best cameras out there but deliver decent pictures for snapshots, but for me it is enough (for nice pictures i take my DSLR)
And what I like at the OPO:
- Cyanogenmod. I just prefer the really clean look and I don't like the playful IOS look of MIUI. Also I live in Austria and the german translation of MIUI is really week and many parts are in english (I know that it is an early build and has just been published, I was an version 5.9.24)
- The build quality: The OPO just feels like a premium device, the RN2 feels a little bit cheap with this plastic allover.
- The battery: The RN2 lost in my case plenty of power in Standby (nearly 20 percent over night) and also with Screen on (I've made a test watching a 1080P Youtube playlist via WIFI with one SIM card in standby and at 50% brightness: the RN2 died after 5:30, the OPO lasted one hour longer)
- The display: Even on cold settings my RN2 had an yellow tint compared to the OPO
Off course this is only my personal opinion and I think both are really great devices. But I just prefer the OPO.
You can't go wrong with either of them. The Redmi is quite new, so I hope there will be a alternative rom soon.
I read about the yellow tint in some forum, it seems to be some display problem which my device hasn't got (lucky me)
I am not so fond of the miui-look myself, the lack of german translation on the other hand doesn't bother me because my devices are always set up english.
Have fun with your new device und LG aus dem Waldviertel
Austrian thread? lol
greetings from a Tyrolean in Swiss Exile..
It seems so
Lg aus dem Weinviertel
The z5c came out almost 1 year ago, do you guys think the z5c is still worth buying?
What do you guys think? If no, what would you consider buying, considering the z5c as first option?
***edit: it's my 1000th post on xda yay! ***
i think yes, small phone, great performance, great camera, didn't have any problems in 5 months except camera lens, but devilcase lens protector fixed that, i would buy again
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I bought it 2 months ago. Totally happy with it. No problems up to now.
I wanted a small phone with good performance, and this one was the only one that fitted these criteria.
My 2nd option was iPhone SE... since I came from an iPhone 4S, I was a bit tired of iOS. Personally I think Android Marshmallow is in a really good shape when compared to iOS, in my opinion it is even better.
Buy.
bought one yesterday. Its the best small phone i could find for the $380 i spent. iPhone SE is about the only other 1 i would have considered.
If you dont require a sd slot there are better options.
I picked one up for USD370 (including shipping) for my wife. She had a Z3C before and loved it, but the screen stopped responding. For that price it is an amazing phone.
The latest firmware almost fixed all stuffs, the phone is pretty usable and finally safe to buy and recommended now. The only thing disapointed me is the photo/video quality still not as good as my older Z1c at high ISO(the sensor indeed got 25MP not only 23MP which is over crowed on a small 1/2.3" size) but no doubt Z5c focus speed and camera speed way faster and screen much much clear.
I think yes if you want to buy a small flagship phone. It's just great in everything, almost. I bought it on February and I love this phone.
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The camera is awesome (front and rear). but sadly it's can't run the camera over 25 min in 4k. The autofocus actually fast this will be great when you record a video. You can make a bokeh, hdr, or a long exposure pictures. And it's camera is also good in low light.
I like the keyboard, you can swipe like swift keyboard and the auto correct is very usefull
The battery life good also, I got 6-8 hours in normal use (social media, music and browsing) and 4-5 hours when I play fifa 16
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The phone getting hot very fast when you use the camera, and play online game like fifa 16.
For me it recently sure was. As a former iPhone 5 user I wanted to switch to Android on a small (< 5" screen) high-end device. Early 2015 I choose a Z3C based on these criteria. Very nice in almost any way, though camera -especially rooted- was kind of crappy.
I recently upgraded to the Z5C based on the same search criteria. It seems that most manufacturers tend to put more low-end hardware in smaller devices, here Sony has done a nice job. I considered the Samsung Galaxy A3, though the Z5C came out best for me.
I look forward to the day that a more complete and stable version of Cyanogenmod will be released for the Z3C This is likely to make my Z35 experience optimal.
I had a z3c, love the small size and massive capabilities. I replaced it with the z5c about 8 months ago. There is no other device on the market I would rather have. Even tried a galaxy S6 for a bit... Hated every moment of having that one.
My only beef with its I cannot have any special software that comes from having a vendor branded device. (No VOIP on AT&T)
Bought one month before. Best decision according to me. But not the best for those who doesnt want small size or fm radio.
How do you guys have "great performance" from your Z5 Compact? Mine runs worse than my older HTC One M8 in games. The Z5 Compact gets hot after 2 minutes of high graphics gaming, however, if you know how to root, install a new kernel etc. you might get good performance. I'd say underclock the CPU and let it get a bit hotter before automatically downclocking. That's at least what I'm trying now. The camera is good, however not the best. Batterylife is better than most phones, speakers are meh, and overall the phone is stable. Used it for 3 months or so and since I got it 100 dollars cheaper than the iPhone SE I think it's good enough. Just hope I can push the performance to at least as good as my One M8 :/
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How do you guys have "great performance" from your Z5 Compact? Mine runs worse than my older HTC One M8 in games. The Z5 Compact gets hot after 2 minutes of high graphics gaming, however, if you know how to root, install a new kernel etc. you might get good performance. I'd say underclock the CPU and let it get a bit hotter before automatically downclocking. That's at least what I'm trying now. The camera is good, however not the best. Batterylife is better than most phones, speakers are meh, and overall the phone is stable. Used it for 3 months or so and since I got it 100 dollars cheaper than the iPhone SE I think it's good enough. Just hope I can push the performance to at least as good as my One M8 :/
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Most of the guys that claim good stories are unrooted so you know they don't actually use their phones. I've had great results in power consumption and heat with androplus v34, but it comes at the price of performance.
My 2 are rooted (one with dry restrored) and running xposed,and xpower rom. Both seem to be faster and smoother than my sons' - much bulkier - m8 and iPhone 6. Can't find anything close to the quality of this phone at this convenient size.
I actually wouldn't recommend it at all since Sony stopped updating the software already. I am still on 1 April security patches. I find that unforgivable. And I'm going to switch to S7 once T-Mobile gets its sheet together –*they raised the price by 100 euro a week before I could extend my contract.
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I like the screen very much
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no software updates
camera is not what I expected
I would actually recommend Z3C over Z5C. It's same size, cheaper, works faster (!), doesn't get hot and the Concept software is awesome.
Going to research rooting now, maybe it will manage memory a bit better.
S6 looks like on the same boat stuck with 1 April security patches. 720P required less memory intensive. Z3c is very easy to get touch screen problem after one year and the camera quality even worse than Z1c. I don't satisfied with Z5c but the price is dropping so I think still worth for new owner.
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I actually wouldn't recommend it at all since Sony stopped updating the software already. I am still on 1 April security patches. I find that unforgivable. And I'm going to switch to S7 once T-Mobile gets its sheet together –*they raised the price by 100 euro a week before I could extend my contract.
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no software updates
camera is not what I expected
I would actually recommend Z3C over Z5C. It's same size, cheaper, works faster (!), doesn't get hot and the Concept software is awesome.
Going to research rooting now, maybe it will manage memory a bit better.
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Are you on the latest software? Because i owned the z3c and now the z5c and besides the battery life i love this phone way more. Camera is far better and the software runs pretty smooth also even with a sheet load of apps in the ram is still fast.
Actually, the other important thing bugged me is the slow AC wifi speed but since the compact model got only single wifi antenna(Z5 got dual wifi antenna), it is impossible to top out wifi if you got a damn fast Internet connection and router like me.
When you build a NAS or share files via router, the Z5c can't playback ultra quality videos(like the video shoot from a DSLR at 100M+ 4K) though the connection detected at 433Mbps but in reality, I got only 70~120Mbps around. The speed is faster than 802.11b/g/n and good for general Internet purpose but only reached the very entry quality of AC speed.
Plus the rom I'm running Xpower 3.0(.224) bugged to browser vidoes shared out via win10 smb. I can view any photo but can't playback all videos, tested to roll back 5.1.1 and no problem. Not sure if .253 fixed the issue, been waiting for Xpower 4.0(.253) to release.
Yeah I am on the latest software. I had great hopes for it. But for instance today the phone heated up, stayed hot, lost 70% battery in three hours and then finally shut down with the red light blinking. Ummmmmmmm.
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Yeah I am on the latest software. I had great hopes for it. But for instance today the phone heated up, stayed hot, lost 70% battery in three hours and then finally shut down with the red light blinking. Ummmmmmmm.
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Real hard to solve without root. If you root it, you can flash the Increase thermal-performance mod plus lower down the max cpu clock for the price of slower speed. In my experiences, they are quite a helping hand but sure can't fix all, might be 50% better experiences though.
If the X Compact with sd820 is real coming up, probably it can fix the heat issue(even so, sd820 is also hot). But I doubt I will switch to Xc bcoz Z5c already spend me much money, or only until the price dropping a lot next year.
Currently I have an iPhone 6S and want to make the switch back to Android. Part of the reason for this is the quality of the battery life in the iPhone 6S. I've had mine for a little over 2 years and the battery health is at 75% and I have to recharge during the day with moderate using, which is listening to music via Spotify over 4G and browsing the internet.
I am thinking seriously about buying the Samsung S9+ or S9, but thought that I would come here to get some opinions on it.
How does the battery life compare on both of these models? My typical usage consists of browsing the internet (I don't watch a lot of videos online on my phone), steaming music, emailing, texting and phoning.
The apps I mainly use are Amazon, Amazon Music, Bank of Ireland Mobile, Boots, BT Mobile, BT Wi-Fi, Ebay, Imgur, Instagram, PayPal.
So, forgetting about the price difference, what would be the recommended option? Battery life is important to me.
My other, non-Samsung option is a Huawei P20 Pro.
I recently upgraded to a S9+ I wish I had got the p20 pro or the S9
Well both are good with the S9 plus will be a bit better due to the extra 2gb ram but to be fair if you don't open to many apps at the same time won't be different. Had my S9 plus since lunch. Last year got the S8 lunch date and sold it after 2 week was good but there was something missing, with the S9 plus its like they fixed the little things I love it.
My brother has the 20 pro and ye camera is good baterry to but overall like the S9 software experience more.
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I recently upgraded to a S9+ I wish I had got the p20 pro or the S9
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Why do you say this? What makes you regret getting the S9+?
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Well both are good with the S9 plus will be a bit better due to the extra 2gb ram but to be fair if you don't open to many apps at the same time won't be different. Had my S9 plus since lunch. Last year got the S8 lunch date and sold it after 2 week was good but there was something missing, with the S9 plus its like they fixed the little things I love it.
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How do you find the battery on the S9+? Do you own an S9? Just wondering how the batteries compare on them.
My battery is OK nothing especial last me the day with good use video gaming social phone and text. Have 2 brothers one has the 20 pro and little one went to the S9 and he said is fine is battery he listens to music a lot and social and so far so good.
Wait for New iPhone
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My battery is OK nothing especial last me the day with good use video gaming social phone and text. Have 2 brothers one has the 20 pro and little one went to the S9 and he said is fine is battery he listens to music a lot and social and so far so good.
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Do you like your S9+ or would you rather have got the 20 Pro?
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Wait for New iPhone
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So we can buy more overpriced hardware with buggy software holding it back?
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Why do you say this? What makes you regret getting the S9+?
How do you find the battery on the S9+? Do you own an S9? Just wondering how the batteries compare on them.
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Battery life on the S9+ is alrite nothing to brag about. I took my phone back into the Samsung shop as the coating has come off my phone after a month. I was playing with the S9 in the shop whilst waiting and it fits perfectly in my my hand Vs the plus.
I only got it as I wanted the extra ram and spec but in reality they are both equally as good
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So we can buy more overpriced hardware with buggy software holding it back?
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Considering that Android phones are also now 1000$,iPhone's price seems justified for more powerful chip & better optimisation leading to utter smoothness. Believe me when I say my 6s+ is still more smooth & without stutters than my S9+.Also op was using iPhone from past 2 years that's why I suggested him iPhone
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Currently I have an iPhone 6S and want to make the switch back to Android. Part of the reason for this is the quality of the battery life in the iPhone 6S. I've had mine for a little over 2 years and the battery health is at 75% and I have to recharge during the day with moderate using, which is listening to music via Spotify over 4G and browsing the internet.
I am thinking seriously about buying the Samsung S9+ or S9, but thought that I would come here to get some opinions on it.
How does the battery life compare on both of these models? My typical usage consists of browsing the internet (I don't watch a lot of videos online on my phone), steaming music, emailing, texting and phoning.
The apps I mainly use are Amazon, Amazon Music, Bank of Ireland Mobile, Boots, BT Mobile, BT Wi-Fi, Ebay, Imgur, Instagram, PayPal.
So, forgetting about the price difference, what would be the recommended option? Battery life is important to me.
My other, non-Samsung option is a Huawei P20 Pro.
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I'm not sure if your aware but you can get the battery replaced in the 6s for about 29 or so dollars if your located in the United States . Honestly I'd do that instead of getting a new phone now and seeing something better come out and end up immediately regret my purchase.
Even an S9+ (or any phone honestly) will have a degraded battery after 2 years. Honestly that's not a valid reason to want to switch back to Android.
Now if you just didn't like iOS, then I could see wanting to to switch, but don't do it for battery life of your current device alone
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I had the Oneplus 6, P20 Pro and now on S9+
the Op6 is a beast but camera isnt that great so I switched to p20pro, the thing w that is I cant unlock the bootloader anymore so I went w the S9+, first I had a snapdragon one from HK then swapped to an exynos one. overall the s9+ is the one that got my heart although I had to wait a week for rmm jail time to flash stuff. snapdragon s9/s9+ has better batter for me though.
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Considering that Android phones are also now 1000$,iPhone's price seems justified for more powerful chip & better optimisation leading to utter smoothness. Believe me when I say my 6s+ is still more smooth & without stutters than my S9+.Also op was using iPhone from past 2 years that's why I suggested him iPhone
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Oh I agree they have better specs, iOS 11 is a pile of steaming crap that holds their potential performance back. Hopefully they fix their issues with iOS 12. I just couldn't justify buying one until they straighten their OS out.
Wait for the pixel 3
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Do you like your S9+ or would you rather have got the 20 Pro?
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S9 plus all the way. The pro is nice the camera and battery but the rest didn't like. The finger print on the back is natural to me the way I use my hand and the pro at the front was a draw back. Notch no so good
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Considering that Android phones are also now 1000$,iPhone's price seems justified for more powerful chip & better optimisation leading to utter smoothness. Believe me when I say my 6s+ is still more smooth & without stutters than my S9+.Also op was using iPhone from past 2 years that's why I suggested him iPhone
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For sure it's not justified. I bought my partner iPhone x, she added 200 USD and got myslef and a her new s9+ 128gb and 64gb version (for me) instead of that one 256 iPhone x.
We both used to have iPhone before.
Utter smoothenes?? It's not 2009. My S9+ flies well. My Gf is just off her 6s plus it is not comparable to s9p don't be funny.
Better chip? Like I mind to be second faster or slower. I don't play scores. Reality is that you don't notice the difference whatsoever.
However, because phones nowadays getting so close my next move will be to One Plus. More bang for the money... Let's be honest.
It's not cos we don't have money. We both are well off bringing in more than most folks will ever have... But having said that I really like to Get good things for my hard earned money and iPhone and next samsung ain't that.
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Go and get the S9+ the battery is good enough. I'm getting between 6 and 9 hours SOT. DEPENDABLE WHAT I DO Of COURSE. Easy to get 6+ hours in heavy use.
Initially the s9p had issues with battery, but I didn't get much of that since i bought my phone in August and indeed before I updated the phone, my battery was ridiculous. However, when Ive hit the android update button, stopping the ignorance of the software update. The phone worked wonderfully and the battery was beyond excellent.
Anyway the other reason to get S9p is the camera. It's amazing. I know ppl say for camera the huawei is also really good but for 80 USD extra i still love the Samsung more. Huawei is sure good phone but I don't think they are at the level to get the phones this priced. Not that I think it's necessary at all to spend so much money for any phone anyway.
This is turning into an iOS versus Android thread. Please, just stick to the main topic.
Both S9 models are good, but if you're into photography, get the S9+
i was using a Pixel 2 XL for 5 months i loved everything about it except the screen and weird bugs so i eventually move to the S9+ and HOLY JESUS the camera is GARBAGE maybe its a hardware issue with mine. i tried super slowmo and my video was Really dark as if i was in a room with no light on but i was recording in a fully lit room with lights on, the camera also isnt living up to the hype and the mode i cared about the most was Portait mode/Live focus and my god was that terrible im thinking maybe i need to adjust a few things or my phone might have a hardware issue but im gonna return it and go back to an S8. i bought the pixel cause everyone and everywhere i heard about how amazing the camera was and it definitely lived up to the hype
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Currently I have an iPhone 6S and want to make the switch back to Android. Part of the reason for this is the quality of the battery life in the iPhone 6S. I've had mine for a little over 2 years and the battery health is at 75% and I have to recharge during the day with moderate using, which is listening to music via Spotify over 4G and browsing the internet.
I am thinking seriously about buying the Samsung S9+ or S9, but thought that I would come here to get some opinions on it.
How does the battery life compare on both of these models? My typical usage consists of browsing the internet (I don't watch a lot of videos online on my phone), steaming music, emailing, texting and phoning.
The apps I mainly use are Amazon, Amazon Music, Bank of Ireland Mobile, Boots, BT Mobile, BT Wi-Fi, Ebay, Imgur, Instagram, PayPal.
So, forgetting about the price difference, what would be the recommended option? Battery life is important to me.
My other, non-Samsung option is a Huawei P20 Pro.
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My two cents on your question
1. Go to the Apple store and replace your battery
2. If you don't want to do (1) - if you are concerned primarily about battery life get the s9+ (or note 9 if you can afford it, extra 500mah battery would be ideal)
3. If you can do (1) - wait for the next generation of phones, they will have the 7nm processors that look to be roughly 20% more efficient than the current generation so expect more longevity
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So perhaps this review might be slightly contradictory to my other thread (Samsung Giving up or....). Only way to find out is to dive right in......
So I'm not here to praise or affiliate myself with a particular brand, what I mean is that some very much love Samsung and don't like any criticism, or others may disagree and that's fine (my words are just from my perspective). Everyone has there own likes, things they find useful, basically we are all different and that is just fine. Opinions from others that may follow are to be respected as we all won't share the same experience or views.
The Galaxy Note 10 got released in two variants oh wait no make that three, and yes I think this is a good idea (although price points i am not agreeable on).
However as the title suggests this little review is based on the model I have SM-N976b that's the Exynos 9825 5G variant.
Display: What we have is a 6.8" Dynamic Amoled Display and there is very little disputing it's best in class. From the vibrant colours to the deep blacks it really is a stunning screen. The punch-hole is symmetrical and really doesn't get in the way or my enjoyment (however some might not like, and find it distracting). I tend to appreciate larger displays (having recently purchased the Mate 20 X 5G 7.2") I was particularly pleased that Samsung decided to make the Display larger on the + variant. With it being a note , that is aimed at productivity and media 6.8" was/is a delight for me personally.
Performance: The performance of the 9825 is marginal if anything above the 9820 (used on the S10, S10+). However I get tired of the complaints, yes perhaps the 855 is marginally better in certain areas, it's not a huge gulf between the two that is going to dramatically affect the user experience. I have found it to be very fast and fluid and hasn't hindered my experience. Basically it performs as a flagship processor should. Very little complaints from me.
Functionality: We have the good old S-Pen and without a doubt it's still industry leading (Perhaps because not many oem's have decided to compete) however as a productivity tool it's fantastic (wether you use it not). I am not sold on the Harry potter waving the pen around, it's just a feature that I think Samsung could have left out & focused that time and resources in another area. However I get that they wanted to add something else to the pen, but I don't think many will be using it.
You have here with the Note 10+ a device that offers up great features as in improving DeX to be used as a virtual environment on a laptop (Some may benefit from this) link to Windows to provide that ecosystem and connection with your PC/Laptop. We also have Gamelink (Conning Soon) along with all the other things like app edge, dual window. So it really does offer up that fantastic functionality.
Battery: Well I have the Mate 20 X and with the 7.2" Display (all be it 1080p) it without a doubt lasts longer than the Note 10+, wouldn't say by a huge margin, I usually and can easily get 7hrs on the note, but with the X it can be 8+, but EMUI is more restrictive in app management. I think the Note could be better optimised and I'm sure with updates it will.
Camera: The cameras on the Note all be it just little improvements over the S-Line, they perform well in most areas, fall short in others. Yes you can say the P30 Pro or pixel are better, some areas yes they most certainly are, but even they fall short in let's say the video department, so as a balanced camera then yeah it's great and that is what I look for, if you want the best if everything Also buy the P30 Pro & Pixel and carry around 3 devices
Design: I think this is where Samsung spent a chunk of time, with the Display & rearrangement, all be it most certainly Q's from Huawei but that's not a negative thing and I absolutely love what Samsung have done here. It's a stunning device.
My Honest opinion: I was complaining slightly that Samsung perhaps could of should of done more and I still stand with that in certain areas. These are in the camera software, perhaps that 90hz (yes I don't think this was possible, due to the S-Pen), but would have been a nice option, but when you look at it, its an iterative improvement, but the areas of focus have been done well, and here we have a stunning productivity device that will make many users happy, but leave some disappointed as expectation, left us without some of the little things we are seeing from others not here on the note.
After using it now for 5 days I fully appreciate a nice and solid device that covers most areas well, but like any device falls short in others. I'm very happy with my purchase and I hope you all are to
Please feel free to add to this, or add in constructive criticism, it's all appreciated, just be respectful, and don't disregard others opinions (unless they are just rediculous).
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So perhaps this review might be slightly contradictory to my other thread (Samsung Giving up or....). Only way to find out is to dive right in......
So I'm not here to praise or affiliate myself with a particular brand, what I mean is that some very much love Samsung and don't like any criticism, or others may disagree and that's fine (my words are just from my perspective). Everyone has there own likes, things they find useful, basically we are all different and that is just fine. Opinions from others that may follow are to be respected as we all won't share the same experience or views.
The Galaxy Note 10 got released in two variants oh wait no make that three, and yes I think this is a good idea (although price points i am not agreeable on).
However as the title suggests this little review is based on the model I have SM-N976b that's the Exynos 9825 5G variant.
Display: What we have is a 6.8" Dynamic Amoled Display and there is very little disputing it's best in class. From the vibrant colours to the deep blacks it really is a stunning screen. The punch-hole is symmetrical and really doesn't get in the way or my enjoyment (however some might not like, and find it distracting). I tend to appreciate larger displays (having recently purchased the Mate 20 X 5G 7.2") I was particularly pleased that Samsung decided to make the Display larger on the + variant. With it being a note , that is aimed at productivity and media 6.8" was/is a delight for me personally.
Performance: The performance of the 9825 is marginal if anything above the 9820 (used on the S10, S10+). However I get tired of the complaints, yes perhaps the 855 is marginally better in certain areas, it's not a huge gulf between the two that is going to dramatically affect the user experience. I have found it to be very fast and fluid and hasn't hindered my experience. Basically it performs as a flagship processor should. Very little complaints from me.
Functionality: We have the good old S-Pen and without a doubt it's still industry leading (Perhaps because not many oem's have decided to compete) however as a productivity tool it's fantastic (wether you use it not). I am not sold on the Harry potter waving the pen around, it's just a feature that I think Samsung could have left out & focused that time and resources in another area. However I get that they wanted to add something else to the pen, but I don't think many will be using it.
You have here with the Note 10+ a device that offers up great features as in improving DeX to be used as a virtual environment on a laptop (Some may benefit from this) link to Windows to provide that ecosystem and connection with your PC/Laptop. We also have Gamelink (Conning Soon) along with all the other things like app edge, dual window. So it really does offer up that fantastic functionality.
Battery: Well I have the Mate 20 X and with the 7.2" Display (all be it 1080p) it without a doubt lasts longer than the Note 10+, wouldn't say by a huge margin, I usually and can easily get 7hrs on the note, but with the X it can be 8+, but EMUI is more restrictive in app management. I think the Note could be better optimised and I'm sure with updates it will.
Camera: The cameras on the Note all be it just little improvements over the S-Line, they perform well in most areas, fall short in others. Yes you can say the P30 Pro or pixel are better, some areas yes they most certainly are, but even they fall short in let's say the video department, so as a balanced camera then yeah it's great and that is what I look for, if you want the best if everything Also buy the P30 Pro & Pixel and carry around 3 devices
Design: I think this is where Samsung spent a chunk of time, with the Display & rearrangement, all be it most certainly Q's from Huawei but that's not a negative thing and I absolutely love what Samsung have done here. It's a stunning device.
My Honest opinion: I was complaining slightly that Samsung perhaps could of should of done more and I still stand with that in certain areas. These are in the camera software, perhaps that 90hz (yes I don't think this was possible, due to the S-Pen), but would have been a nice option, but when you look at it, its an iterative improvement, but the areas of focus have been done well, and here we have a stunning productivity device that will make many users happy, but leave some disappointed as expectation, left us without some of the little things we are seeing from others not here on the note.
After using it now for 5 days I fully appreciate a nice and solid device that covers most areas well, but like any device falls short in others. I'm very happy with my purchase and I hope you all are to
Please feel free to add to this, or add in constructive criticism, it's all appreciated, just be respectful, and don't disregard others opinions (unless they are just rediculous).
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Not too much to add here.
Really great package!
Terrible speakers
Worst cellular connection to date
Bloatware
tethering feature is broken/lags
Pretty much fantastic in every aspect, minus four:
- terrible battery life (the worst I've ever had to my opinion, compared to Mate 9, Note 4 and Xperia Z1...)
- no high refresh rate display (and still annoying OLED motion blur)
- slow/unsecure unlocking (UDFS/front camera)
- Samsung's "OneUI" software is good overall, but has still strong geographic differences (in term of app availability, see goodlock software for exemple), and doesn't allow you to tweak your terminal to the extent to it should be possible (Galaxy Theme store (yerk!) should basically be Substratum (lite) + Synergy))
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Terrible speakers
Worst cellular connection to date
Bloatware
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It is really amusing to see how some complain about mainly, battery, speakers, camera and signal, to the grade of "terrible", "worst" etc, I have no complain at all, I come from a note 8, which indeed was an excellent device, and this note10+ is way better, in all aaspects, I did not have the 9, but I have heard always that it was just a little increment over the 8, any way, I am really, really pleased with my note10+, the best device I have had
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It is really amusing to see how some complain about mainly, battery, speakers, camera and signal, to the grade of "terrible", "worst" etc, I have no complain at all, I come from a note 8, which indeed was an excellent device, and this note10+ is way better, in all aaspects, I did not have the 9, but I have heard always that it was just a little increment over the 8, any way, I am really, really pleased with my note10+, the best device I have had
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Ditto x10!
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And would you guys say note 10+ over note 10?
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And would you guys say note 10+ over note 10?
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As far as i'm concerned yes...
- battery life
- microSD
- TOF, even though still beta-like software for 3D scan, but works very well for blurring background photos (you can see it when comparing front cam and rear cam)
- larger screen, cause i love this (better for watching videos or multitasking)
I would always feel like i have a sub phone if i went note10 route but that's juste me
Downside is the weight of note10+, i find it kinda heavy in the hand.
Yeah, I absolutely love my note10+
I absolutely love my Note 10+. I wish I had pre-ordered, but I wasn't ready for an upgrade from my Note 8 yet.
I got the Aurora Glow (Snapdragon, Verizon US), mainly because it was the one that was readily available and I wouldn't have to wait. I thought I'd just slap a case on it and never have to look at it, but it turns out I love that crazy rainbow bastard and got a nice clear case. I'm averaging 7hrs of SOT (at highest resolution, no power savings, wifi/data, etc), I haven't had to "top up" during the day once since I got it. Sleep drain is almost non-existent...maybe 4-5% overnight (6-7hrs) with WiFi and bluetooth on. I do a lot of artwork on the fly, and this is even more of a workhorse than my Note 8 was. I do multi-layered (usually 12-20 layers) drawings in Medibang Paint at at least 600dpi and this glorious phone doesn't even stutter. AND (and I know a lot of you don't like it) I was psyched to see a screen protector pre-installed. I know it's a crappy one, but it was great to have while waiting for my "real" one to show up. Really small, but well-appreciated, inclusion. I don't even mind the loss of a headphone jack as much as I thought I would. My portable battery has the wireless charging built in (not that I've needed to use it yet), and I think the sound in the USB C headphones included is better than the ones I got with my Note 8.
My ONLY complaint is the camera. Photos look overly soft, and faces seem flattened out. My Note 8 took much better photos out of the box. At least, in my case, it definitely seems to be a software issue...because using GCam improves the photos dramatically. And it seems that Sammy has already released an update to address photo quality...I just have to wait for Verizon to push out the damn thing. I don't take pro photos or anything, 90% of my picture taking is my kids...but my Note 8 gave me much clearer photos of them running around than I've gotten from my 10+. That being said, I know there's a fix on the way so I'm not going to piss and moan too much about it. I look forward to really using the hell out of the camera once it's updated, especially night mode...I didn't have that on my Note 8.
All in all, nothing but love for this phone.
I perceive the photos to be better than those of my note8, yesterday an update mainly for the fingerprint and camera, became available for my note10+, I am yet to see what improvements it may yield
I was looking at a new Chinese flagship (Realme X2 Pro) but then got to play with Dex on a 10 - bought the Note 10+ dualSIM right there, coming from an S8+. Dex is just fantastic, on my Windows or Mac computers, with an additional 95W wall charger and a 100w USB C hub. Now the phone is fully integrated in my desktop workflow and part of the hub with other devices I own, and I love the ability to cut&paste from/to the phone from my main Windows machine. All other elements one comes to expect from a Samsung flagship are there of course, and video quality is excellent. Writing with the S-Pen on the Nebo App is enough for note taking - I can leave the iPad Pro at home for meetings. And Amazon Germany gave a unexpected $120 rebate, plus tax return from Amazon upon leaving the EU, got a great deal altogether. My S8+ lasted three years and thanks to this community is updated well, will now go to my wife.
3 Stars. The magic is lost. Nothing is special about the series anymore.
Call me jaded as someone who's owned every iteration since the Note 2, but this is not the best from the best that previous Note series enjoyed. Same cameras from S10. Would have liked a better tech that includes a seamless uninterruption of the screen. I can do without a social media whore cam or have a motorized selfie cam for those selfie whores. Also, could have used a speedier screen refresh rate found on the the cheaper One+. Otherwise, speed, battery life, features, all the best android has to offer. Nothing earth shattering and futuristic like the first time we saw the Note Edge or Note 5 or BT pen from note 9. Still has a hole in the screen. Still has a "just a refreshed design until next iteration" look. Screen size increased by a hair. Even diluted the brand by making a smaller Note. I usually go for the best but since I had the blue Note 9, I wanted something different and the Aura Blue is gorgeous but disappointed it only comes in 256gb, another ding against Samsung. Overall, 3 stars because the Note series is known for cutting edge and when you have a camera stolen from an older phone and when you decide to toss in a gimmicky AR camera that everyone used for the first minute and forget about but failed to work on the thing that everyone uses 90% of the time, the screen, like incorporate a 120 refresh rate or do away with the hole or notch, then you aren't living to the high standard that the Note series are known for and that its fanbase expects. You used to be able to say, look what my phone has that you don't. Reverse charging? woopty do. My S10 had that before you. 3 cameras? "Stereo" speakers? Well, my phone has a built in BT stylus. So, my cheaper Note 10 does too! *facepalm* We no longer have something special. Used to be we had it first and then it trickled to other devices. Now, it's the other way around.
The one and only phone, not a tablet, that has this unique feature, the spen, there is the "magic"
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The one and only phone, not a tablet, that has this unique feature, the spen, there is the "magic"
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Pay attention. You're wrong. We're reviewing the Note 10+. So this isn't the only phone with the s pen. If you pay attention, the diluted note 10 also has one as well as the upcoming note 10 lite. So it still stands, the magic is lost.
As this thread is about the 10+, I am referring to the note10+, so, you pay attention
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The one and only phone, not a tablet, that has this unique feature, the spen, there is the "magic"
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As this thread is about the 10+, I am referring to the note10+, so, you pay attention
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Please check your private messages. Remeber folks this is a fun hobby for us all. There's never a need to get fired up and taking jabs and low blows. If you're starting to get heated just log off and go do something else or keep scrolling.
Let me preface this by saying I am picky about my phones and this is one of the worst I have seen in years! If you have an old phone I can understand some of the upgrade but here are my thoughts coming well staying with a Note 10+. Never bought and returned a phone this quick. Returning before it is even released on Friday!!
Let's start with the good, well somewhat......
Screen: Once again Samsung delivers a world class screen. Best in brightness, color accuracy, etc etc everything like normal that they always produce in their flagships. Now for the downsize, the infamous 120hz screen refresh rate. Not worth it here. Smoother scrolling, sure but barely. I honestly don't even mind the 1080p and 120 hz just the need for the 120hz on a phone is overkill. Was gaming smoother sure, do I game much on my phone, no not really. The 240 touch response I can tell more of a difference and a worthy difference then the 120 hz refresh
Processing power: Phone is fast, minus animations. Photo processing, night mode shots are a big difference. Much faster in that aspect. Wish we saw little more ram and more storage though at this price
Battery: 5000 mah in this device makes it a little thicker but in my short one day of use it stood up pretty well to transferring apps and everything over and hard use for a few hours last night. Couldn't kill it
and now the bad
Camera: throw all the numbers at it and it will be great.... well not so fast. Main shooter in 12 or 108 mp mode cannot focus on anything. Piece of paper on desk in front of you, good luck. Zoom a few feet away from you, also good luck. 5x/10x/30x zoom is better then Note 10+ of course but how often are you going to use this? Everyday? Once a week? Once a month? Still not great quality (usable) at 10x or 30x really so no point in my book. 5x is crisp but falls off too much after that for me to use. Wide angle is same as note so no real improvement here. Camera also seems to make everything more saturated then I like as well almost to the point of unrealistic. The one and only thing the iPhone can do well and the note seems to be closer to that realistic representation then the Ultra.
Design: not that the design is bad but feels a tad on the chunkier side. Rounder edges do help but does not feel as sleek as nice to hold as note or even s10. Thicker as well to house that battery and camera module. Also worried about how scratched the module bump will become after months of abuse.
UI: Let me first say I hate Android 10/Samsung UI 2.0, I am still using 9 and the Ultra reminded me why. App animations are slow (yes can fix in dev options but still), quick replying to text or message in status bar is not instant like prior android generations. Don't know if this is an android 10 or Samsung UI 2.0 problem but seems like it should be an upgrade not a downgrade
Price: $1400 is a lot even for 2020. That is also only for 128 gb and 12 gb ram model. So no upgrade to ram compared to Note and a loss of half the storage compared to entry level note. Plan was to trade in note 10+ and pay $800 and it isn't worth that tp be honest. Not even close. Only foreseeable upgrades are little brighter screen and zoom lens. The rest is a downgrade to me or the same.
I will continue to use note 10+ until Note 20 maybe? Needs to have something better for the money it is going to cost though
For me, the only slight disappointment is the lack of 120Hz at the highest resolution. I heard conflicting rumors on that, and I was hoping things would end up the other way. But not a huge deal, really.
Everything else was what I'd hoped! Got the + version of the snapdragon, price was reasonable for what it is, pre-order deals are sweet enough to entice me, new s-pen features look exciting, it got the new Gorilla Glass I hoped for, it's for every hardware spec I could want (maybe 5000 mAh battery would be cooler, but whatever, battery life is plenty with the past devices for me), beautiful finishes (the matte bronze... Awesome... But why does the Ultra not get that sweet green variety??), amazingly low response time on s-pen, integration with Windows/Microsoft/Xbox, phenomenal camera specs (I don't need 100 times meaningless digital zoom), got the laser autofocus thing to help speed up focusing... This thing is perfect, basically.
If I could build the perfect phone, it'd be this one with an IR blaster, fingerprint scanner on the back (or improved in-screen), camera under screen instead of punchout, slightly larger battery, and 256GB base storage. Maybe 16GB of RAM just to be ridiculous. MAYBE a slightly higher optical zoom. But now I'm just being picky. This is as close to perfect as I've seen a phone be in my lifetime.
Same here. [email protected] Hope they enable it (if it's capable) with an update. Seeing the S20 has not gotten it, I'm not holding my breath. Odd that that specific item took away all the excitement I had for this device.
You honestly can't notice a difference when you change resolutions. I looks good and feels really snappy either way. I've been using it for 3 weeks now and its been just fine for me.
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Same here. [email protected] Hope they enable it (if it's capable) with an update. Seeing the S20 has not gotten it, I'm not holding my breath. Odd that that specific item took away all the excitement I had for this device.
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I really thought they'd add it just to differentiate it from the S20 Ultra some more. Not too big a deal though. I just peeked for fun, and I was running my Note10+ on 1080p without realizing it. Haha.
I'm still pumped for that smooth scrolling, 5G, 9ms latency on s-pen, and the overall beauty of that phone.
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You honestly can't notice a difference when you change resolutions. I looks good and feels really snappy either way. I've been using it for 3 weeks now and its been just fine for me.
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I really thought they'd add it just to differentiate it from the S20 Ultra some more. Not too big a deal though. I just peeked for fun, and I was running my Note10+ on 1080p without realizing it. Haha.
I'm still pumped for that smooth scrolling, 5G, 9ms latency on s-pen, and the overall beauty of that phone.
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That's good to hear. I'm coming in from a Note 8 so, I'm sure almost everything about this phone will be an upgrade for me either way. :good:
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That's good to hear. I'm coming in from a Note 8 so, I'm sure almost everything about this phone will be an upgrade for me either way. :good:
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Oh dang... Yeah man, I had a Note8, Note9, Note10+, and now will have Note20 Ultra... EVERY one of those phones felt a lot nicer than the last... So yes, you're gonna have your socks knocked off!
> Sticking to the same ice-age tiny and not-so-reliable FP scanner and not implementing the newer 3D Sonic Max Sensor(which is not even very new to have an excuse)!
> Reduction of 500 mAh from the S20 Ultra to feed the same display size in the Note 20 Ultra!
(Instead of reducing the thickness of the N20U coming from the S20U, Sammy most probably could have retained the same thickness or even made it little thicker to have the same 5000 mAh b).
> Not having an option to use 120 Hz RR at QHD+!
- are my disappointments.
As for battery, on the plus side the better screen type, better CPU, and the dynamic refresh rate should balance the scales. I bet battery life will exceed the S20 Ultra, actually!
The FP scanner is tolerable but I would have LOVED to hear about improvements. So there's a better one out there?? Man... What a missed opportunity.
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As for battery, on the plus side the better screen type, better CPU, and the dynamic refresh rate should balance the scales. I bet battery life will exceed the S20 Ultra, actually!
The FP scanner is tolerable but I would have LOVED to hear about improvements. So there's a better one out there?? Man... What a missed opportunity.
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It being LTPO, adaptive RR is the whole and lone advantage I think for batterylife. And "plus" version of the SD SoC drains more battery than the vanilla one is what I know of, as the cores are clocked higher. This adaptive/dynamic RR would be a big plus and SD version will have good batt. life considering all factors even though batt. is now small.
Batt. endurance isn't/wasn't looking good in the Exynos counterparts in the S20 series. Will it be better this time around with a "small" battery and not so batt.-friendly SoC? ... don't know. It's still Exynos 990 and not 992 or something to have an architectural advantage created using in different febricated process. Rumors suggest CPU/GPU improvements in some ways, and I'm confused here if battery effeciency would be a part of it due to less heat/throttle.. Or to rule them all, adaptive RR is more than enough here too, to have more battery life than before?
The FP recognition is improved and responsive apparently.
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The FP recognition is improved and responsive apparently.
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Oh really? Was that true on the S-series this year or it that Note-specific? I've not read anything about that anywhere!
As for the rest of your comment... I guess we'll just wait and see! I'm not worried about battery at all, but I am in the US so the Snapdragon is why I'm not worried. Over my Note10+, this battery is LARGER and this generation of CPU may be more efficient so I'm guessing my battery life will be on par with this after adding in the 120Hz.
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Oh really? Was that true on the S-series this year or it that Note-specific? I've not read anything about that anywhere!
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Note-specific,the one in the Note 20 Ultra:
Fast forward to 07:09 here and 06:51 here.
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As for the rest of your comment... I guess we'll just wait and see! I'm not worried about battery at all, but I am in the US so the Snapdragon is why I'm not worried. Over my Note10+, this battery is LARGER and this generation of CPU may be more efficient so I'm guessing my battery life will be on par with this after adding in the 120Hz.
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Yes, you're good there. I get to use Exynos and gives battery anxiety by late afternoon when used in mobile data(S20+) on moderate use @120 Hz, have doubt on the Shannon modem as well..
Will wait and see for the rest!
From my mate pro 10 :
1/ mobile dock, a great feature
2/ battery duration very low ! 1 day !
3/ fingerprint not really accurate
4/ overheat easy
Carrier specific Video calling?
So I see in another thread that someone with Verizon has a similar problem and I have T-mobile but can anyone confirm or deny the carrier specific video calling function? Look like (even in settings I checked) that the function is just not there for this device and you can only use DUO. I even downloaded The official T-mobile firmware and flashed my device twice this morning (1x with regular CSC file and another with the HOME CSC file and it made no difference). I bought mine carrier unlocked but the theory was flashing the firmware for T-mobile would've enabled those features but not even getting the T-mobile logo.
Can anyone confirm the same? I have the Note 20 and not the Ultra but it shouldn't make a difference.
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So I see in another thread that someone with Verizon has a similar problem and I have T-mobile but can anyone confirm or deny the carrier specific video calling function? Look like (even in settings I checked) that the function is just not there for this device and you can only use DUO. I even downloaded The official T-mobile firmware and flashed my device twice this morning (1x with regular CSC file and another with the HOME CSC file and it made no difference). I bought mine carrier unlocked but the theory was flashing the firmware for T-mobile would've enabled those features but not even getting the T-mobile logo.
Can anyone confirm the same? I have the Note 20 and not the Ultra but it shouldn't make a difference.
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Confirmed. I'm in the US, on T-MOBILE. I can use both carrier specific video calling and Duo.