I used the Pro 5 for a few months and I was pretty happy with it, the camera was the only downside but only at night photos, anyway, I found this on the internet and it pissed me off very hard and I sold it.
"Meizu caught spying: Flyme OS stuffed with malware?
Yup, you read it right. The title’s no bad joke, neither a typo.
Meizu is under serious suspicion of sneaking into it’s users’ personal information via infusing it’s Android-based operating system – Flyme OS – with spyware.
The whole scandal has been stated by a long-time Meizufans Forum member: Naphtha. According to the user’s lookups, the system APK’s – especially ones in the latest beta – feature different malicious viruses. These reports are underlined by the results of VirusTotal, causing even AVG to enthuse about the case:
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At the very moment it is unclear, whether or not the reports are correct. However, if everything was how it should be, these kind of reports would not even exist. Furthermore Meizu should prepare themselves, if AVG (which has been contacted later today) confirms the claim to be right.
According to Naphtha’s claim there are even more “infected” systems apps – “MzAccount” as an example. The long-time forum member claims even more security issues exist and approximately around 4-5 apps could be infected, causing unwanted data traffic from Flyme powered devices.
Besides spying on it’s humble customers, and also resulting in unwanted battery drain and traffic usage to the end user (with absolutely no permission, of course), there’s another question to marvel at.. Is this the main reason for the Chinese manufacturer to keep away from releasing any source code? What else could they be hiding, as we don’t seem to know much – or actually anything – of what’s behind the scenes of the daily-driver apps we’ve already gotten familiar with?
We’ll keep you updated about the case, as we can’t resist to find out either..
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I used the Pro 5 for a few months and I was pretty happy with it, the camera was the only downside but only at night photos, anyway, I found this on the internet and it pissed me off very hard and I sold it.
"Meizu caught spying: Flyme OS stuffed with malware?
Yup, you read it right. The title’s no bad joke, neither a typo.
Meizu is under serious suspicion of sneaking into it’s users’ personal information via infusing it’s Android-based operating system – Flyme OS – with spyware.
The whole scandal has been stated by a long-time Meizufans Forum member: Naphtha. According to the user’s lookups, the system APK’s – especially ones in the latest beta – feature different malicious viruses. These reports are underlined by the results of VirusTotal, causing even AVG to enthuse about the case:
At the very moment it is unclear, whether or not the reports are correct. However, if everything was how it should be, these kind of reports would not even exist. Furthermore Meizu should prepare themselves, if AVG (which has been contacted later today) confirms the claim to be right.
According to Naphtha’s claim there are even more “infected” systems apps – “MzAccount” as an example. The long-time forum member claims even more security issues exist and approximately around 4-5 apps could be infected, causing unwanted data traffic from Flyme powered devices.
Besides spying on it’s humble customers, and also resulting in unwanted battery drain and traffic usage to the end user (with absolutely no permission, of course), there’s another question to marvel at.. Is this the main reason for the Chinese manufacturer to keep away from releasing any source code? What else could they be hiding, as we don’t seem to know much – or actually anything – of what’s behind the scenes of the daily-driver apps we’ve already gotten familiar with?
We’ll keep you updated about the case, as we can’t resist to find out either..
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Do you think this will affect the new Pro 6 also ?
SlyUK said:
Do you think this will affect the new Pro 6 also ?
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I have no idea but if they did this with the Pro 5 I don't see why not with the 6...
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Is this the main reason for the Chinese manufacturer to keep away from releasing any source code?
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NO ! They have just released the sources on 01/03/16 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-pro-5/how-to/meizu-uploaded-pro-5-sources-to-github-t3307325
Are you sure at 100% that Meizu spies on PRO 5 ?
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NO ! They have just released the sources on 01/03/16 :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/meizu-pro-5/how-to/meizu-uploaded-pro-5-sources-to-github-t3307325
Are you sure at 100% that Meizu spies on PRO 5 ?
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Well, see the article I posted earlier, I think yes. The phone was rooted and when I disabled those apk's I had a lot of issues because they are core apps.
I don't know what to say anymore, the reason for me to ditch the Pro 5 and Meizu brand was that article.
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Well, see the article I posted earlier, I think yes. The phone was rooted and when I disabled those apk's I had a lot of issues because they are core apps.
I don't know what to say anymore, the reason for me to ditch the Pro 5 and Meizu brand was that article.
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It's normal that by disabling system apps, system has issues...
It's common to every devices (I own also a Galaxy S4 with CM13).
I just want to say that I don't know if I must believe you because you seam to be a noob...
Understand me...
So if I believe you, I will try CM12.1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/mei...m-cyanogenmod12-1-temasek-unofficial-t3358744
and see if it works smooth like on my S4 !!!
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It's normal that by disabling system apps, system has issues...
It's common to every devices (I own also a Galaxy S4 with CM13).
I just want to say that I don't know if I must believe you because you seam to be a noob...
Understand me...
So if I believe you, I will try CM12.1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/mei...m-cyanogenmod12-1-temasek-unofficial-t3358744
and see if it works smooth like on my S4 !!!
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ok I am noob. Great ...
Pro 5 ten anlayan bir türk yok mu?
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Pro 5 ten anlayan bir türk yok mu?
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Ne bilmek istiyorsun?
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Ne bilmek istiyorsun?
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Нибельмек ващьпе бешкельмэ?
Use English pls!!
I have disassembled some of critical FlymeOS system components (apks, frameworks..) and almost all of them contains code which pushes misc info about ur device and usage statistics to meizu servers.
Block these URLs using /etc/hosts loopback shim:
uxip.meizu.com 127.0.0.1
umid.orion.meizu.com 127.0.0.1
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Нибельмек ващьпе бешкельмэ?
Use English pls!!
I have disassembled some of critical FlymeOS system components (apks, frameworks..) and almost all of them contains code which pushes misc info about ur device and usage statistics to meizu servers.
Block these URLs using /etc/hosts loopback shim:
uxip.meizu.com 127.0.0.1
umid.orion.meizu.com 127.0.0.1
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Thank you, you are a builder, I like it :good:
Related
http://pulse.me/s/dVRNm
Looks like greatness is coming soon...
New Nexus with 4.2, Open Nexus Program Possible and Android 5.0
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Change we can depend on!! Lol jokes aside looks interesting, Idk about changing the home screens but who knows it may be better
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Change we can depend on!! Lol jokes aside looks interesting, Idk about changing the home screens but who knows it may be better
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I like the part about better power management and the overall new Nexus Program.
Sounds good to me. There are definite GUI improvements that could be made. Not sure about "tabs" but anything is worth looking at.
Lastly, there is a chance that we see some sort of a “customization center” that allows you to choose from a stock Android experience or a custom skin from the manufacturer of the phone (Sense from HTC, Blur from Motorola, TouchWiz from Samsung, etc.).
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Awesome. I REALLY like that part. Sounds like a move to address the fragmentation issue??
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Awesome. I REALLY like that part. Sounds like a move to address the fragmentation issue??
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Yes that idea sounds amazing but I wonder how they'll implement that.
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Yes that idea sounds amazing but I wonder how they'll implement that.
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Well, If they could make it cloud based where you can just download the skin you want and it will remove the existing it could work. Plus each manufacturer would be responsible for driver implementation on that hardware. It could work nicely I think.
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Well, If they could make it cloud based where you can just download the skin you want and it will remove the existing it could work. Plus each manufacturer would be responsible for driver implementation on that hardware. It could work nicely I think.
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Either that or they could use part of that 64gb required on all new Nexus phones.
It says 64mb not 64gb :-\
They must include a stock Android experience and 64MB of secure memory for media streaming.
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I saw this yesterday and almost crapped my pants because it was so awesome. No longer will we be stuck with one phone as a nexus phone that has sub-par hardware or have to chose a device with a skin we hate because it has better hardware. I didn't see this but I'm assuming for it to be qualified as a Nexus device it has to have an unlocked bootloader.
Good things are coming soon guys
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Either that or they could use part of that 64gb required on all new Nexus phones.
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That's 64MB, not GB, and it's part of RAM. It's to be used for caching protected content like movies so you can't rip/save streaming content. And it's a bad thing, a lockdown mechanism, a concession to the phone and media companies and protection for Google Play's bottom line.
In fact, I see most of the aspects of this "Nexus Certification" concept as negative and have a very bad feeling about how this will turn out. True Nexus devices have all their hardware drivers and software written by Google, barring some binary pieces. Unfortunately they likely don't have the resources to handle such a differing hardware strata. This may put control back into the manufacturers' hands, meaning:
Poorly written software (and after seeing HTC's custom source, I'll never buy a device with HTC-written software again)
Slow updates or no updates
Delayed stock android. I wouldn't be surprised it it ends up as a "promised" or optional update to be delivered later, and phones end up shipping with proprietary frameworks.
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That's 64MB, not GB, and it's part of RAM. It's to be used for caching protected content like movies so you can't rip/save streaming content. And it's a bad thing, a lockdown mechanism, a concession to the phone and media companies and protection for Google Play's bottom line.
In fact, I see most of the aspects of this "Nexus Certification" concept as negative and have a very bad feeling about how this will turn out. True Nexus devices have all their hardware drivers and software written by Google, barring some binary pieces. Unfortunately they likely don't have the resources to handle such a differing hardware strata. This may put control back into the manufacturers' hands, meaning:
Poorly written software (and after seeing HTC's custom source, I'll never buy a device with HTC-written software again)
Slow updates or no updates
Delayed stock android. I wouldn't be surprised it it ends up as a "promised" or optional update to be delivered later, and phones end up shipping with proprietary frameworks.
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Oh wow I totally misread that ram part. Sounds awful.
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Poorly written software (and after seeing HTC's custom source, I'll never buy a device with HTC-written software again)
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You know, I take this back. By coincidence I just happened on an old newsgroup post: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/55060 where Linus blames everyone for just such a problem.
It's disheartening how these companies just slap together enough to get things working and leave it at that. I can't see any of them doing any more than the bare minimum to get their devices certified, and they'll lack the foresight and effort the Google programmers put towards a single device for certain.
If ownership does become each manufacturer's responsibility, I wonder if we'd lose more things that would be too much of an inconvenience for them, like the Nexus program's timely source code releases.
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You know, I take this back. By coincidence I just happened on an old newsgroup post: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.omap/55060 where Linus blames everyone for just such a problem.
It's disheartening how these companies just slap together enough to get things working and leave it at that. I can't see any of them doing any more than the bare minimum to get their devices certified, and they'll lack the foresight and effort the Google programmers put towards a single device for certain.
If ownership does become each manufacturer's responsibility, I wonder if we'd lose more things that would be too much of an inconvenience for them, like the Nexus program's timely source code releases.
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But really isn't that kind of how business works? Get people to pay as much as possible for something that you can produce as cheap and efficient as possible? Not making excuses for them, but I get the drive to feed the bottom line $$$
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But really isn't that kind of how business works? Get people to pay as much as possible for something that you can produce as cheap and efficient as possible?
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Of course. But up until this point we at least had a true Nexus device that we were sure at least had decent software on it (by virtue only of my opinion ). That was always a last bastion of properly written code. You could buy a device which ran it, or could look to it in order to see how things were intended to be done. It was written both for operation and for reference, and that made it higher quality than something written solely for profit.
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Of course. But up until this point we at least had a true Nexus device that we were sure at least had decent software on it (by virtue only of my opinion ). That was always a last bastion of properly written code. You could buy a device which ran it, or could look to it in order to see how things were intended to be done. It was written both for operation and for reference, and that made it higher quality than something written solely for profit.
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Ah, got it. So if they did this with the next Nexus device, then the only way that it would be good is if it went through an approval process by Google to verify quality control? Sounds good to me!
I just saw this today. Anybody else surprised. Google tricked us with the key lime pie lol. So it should be here in october along with the nexus 5. Anybody expecting or wanting to see some major changes? Well discusd it here
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Holy crap totally fooled I wonder if the ui layout is going to be similar to jellybean have they shown any previews of the is yet
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Did anyone else start craving a Kit Kat after reading about this? Thats good free advertisement on both sides.
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I just saw this today. Anybody else surprised. Google tricked us with the key lime pie lol. So it should be here in october along with the nexus 5. Anybody expecting or wanting to see some major changes? Well discusd it here
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I wouldn't say they tricked us, they said in an interview they were going to go with Key Lime Pie but the deal with Kit Kat kind of happened at the last minute and they thought it would be a good idea. Just don't want anyone thinking they intentionally pushed us one way or another. Either way as someone else said I have now been craving kitkats on a daily basis.
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Holy crap totally fooled I wonder if the ui layout is going to be similar to jellybean have they shown any previews of the is yet
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Well the ui is probably very similair.. The look drastically changes with a new Android version (e.g. 2.x 3.x 4.x) but 4.0-4.3 look similair.. So I don't expect drastic changes.. Since they gave it a new name and not just jelly bean it will have some drastic changes I think..
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Well if you look over here at the Banneer Google put up on the official Android website
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^ keywords:available for everybody
Im guessing a "play services" like approach is in the works...maybe... if not, what else do you think they meant by this
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Well if you look over here at the Banneer Google put up on the official Android website
^ keywords:available for everybody
Im guessing a "play services" like approach is in the works...maybe... if not, what else do you think they meant by this
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Maybe they meant old phones get the update as well (verry unlikely) or just it will be available all over the world. Anyways a hope a preview comes out soon or a couple of pics. Thatd be cool. And i have also cravd kitkat lol but all i got is twix...
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Well if you look over here at the Banneer Google put up on the official Android website
^ keywords:available for everybody
Im guessing a "play services" like approach is in the works...maybe... if not, what else do you think they meant by this
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If I'm not wrong Google said that the new Android version would be light enough to run on devices with 512MB RAM, which people guessed would be the case of 4.3, but in the end it wasn't, so I believe 4.4 is going to be a lighter android version, which means way faster user experience on high end devices .
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If I'm not wrong Google said that the new Android version would be light enough to run on devices with 512MB RAM, which people guessed would be the case of 4.3, but in the end it wasn't, so I believe 4.4 is going to be a lighter android version, which means way faster user experience on high end devices .
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this were very good IMHO. Hopefully Google Fix the Mali /Memory Leak Problem on the Nexus 10 Device...
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this were very good IMHO. Hopefully Google Fix the Mali /Memory Leak Problem on the Nexus 10 Device...
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They actually fixed the Mali leak already. Any other reboots are unrelated to this issue.
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They actually fixed the Mali leak already. Any other reboots are unrelated to this issue.
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Yes, the reboots have drastically reduced! I have had only 2 reboots after the 4.3 upgrade (more than 30 days ago). That's completely acceptable to me.
Just wondering if the non N5 Nexus devices would be the first ones to get 4.4 (if at all they plan to roll it out that is)?
Well like always they should have a list of all model android devices that will get the update pretty soon
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Oh gimme a break...
Someone had to say it
I normally don't upgrade (you can thank windows vista for the trauma lol) but I'm actually looking forward to this.
This and the ubuntu phone
Hope it takes care of some issues that 4.3 has
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They actually fixed the Mali leak already. Any other reboots are unrelated to this issue.
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ok then the Device have any other Softwareproblem that must be fixed.
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ok then the Device have any other Softwareproblem that must be fixed.
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I used to have a terrible memory leak (5MB of RAM free after only a couple of hours! no exaggeration!) on 4.3 until I tracked down the programme responsible; Chrome!
I hated Chrome for Android already (screws up formatting on a lot of sites, reloads sites on tab switching EVERY TIME, no way to force desktop mode by default, no way to stop overview zoom), but discovering it was responsible for chewing up 80 to 90% of RAM with a memory leak multiple times a day really sealed it!
Switched to AOSP Browser and not had to reboot my N10 since! Currently at 92 hours uptime and 460MB free/cached RAM
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I used to have a terrible memory leak (5MB of RAM free after only a couple of hours! no exaggeration!) on 4.3 until I tracked down the programme responsible; Chrome!
I hated Chrome for Android already (screws up formatting on a lot of sites, reloads sites on tab switching EVERY TIME, no way to force desktop mode by default, no way to stop overview zoom), but discovering it was responsible for chewing up 80 to 90% of RAM with a memory leak multiple times a day really sealed it!
Switched to AOSP Browser and not had to reboot my N10 since! Currently at 92 hours uptime and 460MB free/cached RAM
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Since Android 4.2 Chrome is the Stock Browser or not?
Where i can find AOSP Browser?
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Since Android 4.2 Chrome is the Stock Browser or not?
Where i can find AOSP Browser?
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Chrome is indeed the default browser (which is shocking on Google's part given how rubbish it is!)
You can find the AOSP browser in the Themes and Apps section of the Nexus 10 forum. here are two versions available, this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2330738 which is the easiest to install but you cannot force-enable desktop mode permanently (show stopper for me).
or this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2154938 but the "Find in page" option in the overflow menu doesn't exist in 4.3 so there will be a weird text string (just ignore it)
In both cases you must have Root in order to install
This is all over the news in China apparently. Sounds like huawei substituted worse components into P10s which is really sad and makes me angry as I was just about to order one.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2017/04/...p10-storage-benchmark-results-shows-they-did/
Just saw that, and WOW.
BTW the link listed in that article as "Huawei forum" is not the official forum.
The official forum is trying really hard deleting threads, and in some forums "UFS" and "emmc" are now sensitive words.
Yes, they did.
Please check the different performance in YouTube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbRKZGdBv7o
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Please check the different performance in YouTube.
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I would be interesting to see some "real world" tests now that Huawei went official
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I would be interesting to see some "real world" tests now that Huawei went official
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Do you mean one of those side by side comparisons, where they open and closes apps?
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Wow that's pretty significant
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Do you mean one of those side by side comparisons, where they open and closes apps?
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Not only open close apps but actual load times and such...things that make a difference in real life. I'm pretty sure there will be a big difference between eMMC5.1 and UFS2.1 in real life.
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Not only open close apps but actual load times and such...things that make a difference in real life. I'm pretty sure there will be a big difference between eMMC5.1 and UFS2.1 in real life.
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I got a P10+ 6+64G Greenery in China and it was eMMC. I used it for 1 day and returned it because it's not as smooth as my Honor V8 and it lags occasionally when opening apps and scrolling the screen.
All complaining posts in Huawei's official forum were removed. They only show the good reviews there. It's 21st century but a Chinese giant is still doing such things
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I got a P10+ 6+64G Greenery in China and it was eMMC. I used it for 1 day and returned it because it's not as smooth as my Honor V8 and it lags occasionally when opening apps and scrolling the screen.
All complaining posts in Huawei's official forum were removed. They only show the good reviews there. It's 21st century but a Chinese giant is still doing such things
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In Denmark where i live. It is posted on one of the biggest mobile dedicated news sites. Not the subject about the deleted posts though.
Good thing you could return it
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In Denmark where i live. It is posted on one of the biggest mobile dedicated news sites. Not the subject about the deleted posts though.
Good thing you could return it
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I returned it successfully because I didn't mention anything about the different internal flash problem Some returns were rejected if they mentioned this problem in the reasons of return.
It's good that the problem exposes to the public as the consumer should know it before they decide whether they should buy it.
Lucky you, I have on of the P10 with DDR3 and how knows if it has also eMMC5.1 instead of UFS2.1, and the problem is that I bought it more than a month ago here in Spain. I guess I will have to argue with the shop in order to have it replaced by a new P10 that MAYBE it has the same problem.
Man, I switched from Xiaomi in order to avoid several things (besides ROMs) like the quality of the manufacturing process (sudden death and things I've suffered in the last couple of years with several Xiaomi models) and now Huawei is even worse. I am very disappointed with Huawei, this is my first and maybe last Huawei phone.
At the end all manufacturers have their problems, Samsung with the Note model is an example. Maybe paying more than 800€ for an iPhone is worthless at the end...
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Lucky you, I have on of the P10 with DDR3 and how knows if it has also eMMC5.1 instead of UFS2.1, and the problem is that I bought it more than a month ago here in Spain. I guess I will have to argue with the shop in order to have it replaced by a new P10 that MAYBE it has the same problem.
Man, I switched from Xiaomi in order to avoid several things (besides ROMs) like the quality of the manufacturing process (sudden death and things I've suffered in the last couple of years with several Xiaomi models) and now Huawei is even worse. I am very disappointed with Huawei, this is my first and maybe last Huawei phone.
At the end all manufacturers have their problems, Samsung with the Note model is an example. Maybe paying more than 800€ for an iPhone is worthless at the end...
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Good luck! This is the first time that I know that eMMC is found in Europe. Maybe the source of your P10 is also from China? As you said, you bought it more than a month but it was only released just 1 month ago in China.
I understand that manufacturers always get the same component with different brands. The main point is that they have the same specification. But Huawei uses components with different specifications in the same model. That's really unacceptable. I am also very disappointed with Huawei as I used 2 Huawei phones (Honor 3C and Honor V8), which were good phones.
Well, according to some benchmarks I did, the memory controller seems to be UFS2.1 finally so there is no problem with mine!!
So I am relieve! But I would like to be able to check out the hardware components of my phone to be sure, who knows...
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Hi guys
Bought both mine 3 weeks ago from retailer here in Denmark and both are with "old" emmc.
So gonna return them first thing tomorrow.
Anyone else from Europe who got the "old" one
The Great Dane said:
Hi guys
Bought both mine 3 weeks ago from retailer here in Denmark and both are with "old" emmc.
So gonna return them first thing tomorrow.
Anyone else from Europe who got the "old" one
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Got the old one and I guess I'm still in Europe lol
The Great Dane said:
Hi guys
Bought both mine 3 weeks ago from retailer here in Denmark and both are with "old" emmc.
So gonna return them first thing tomorrow.
Anyone else from Europe who got the "old" one
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Did you return them? And what reason did you tell them?
exocetdj said:
Got the old one and I guess I'm still in Europe lol
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this is mine ... should I return it ?
vtr-l29 ,64 gb ...
RaZoR1301 said:
this is mine ... should I return it ?
vtr-l29 ,64 gb ...
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Looks like ufs 2.0
Not ufs 2.1 but its better than emmc 5
I have the same results and am more than happy with my p10
Should do a poll about how many user have eMMC, what region + model. I've been Huawei fans for long time but now I kind of feeling been cheated (placed order of the p10+ and not knowing what will I get). Now I am leaning towards cancelling the order before it shipped out.
So question is does international varient i.e L09 and L29 been effected by this scandal?
There are 3 things chinese fans was flaming about are:
1) no Olephobic coating
2) UFS, eMMC
3) LPDDR3, LPDDR4
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Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
rubiicon59 said:
Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
astralbee said:
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
rubiicon59 said:
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
rubiicon59 said:
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
I'm with you in this, impatiently waiting for Calyx/Graphene A12 and P6 support. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do until then. Just restrict as many permissions as you can, don't sign in to too many things and use websites instead of apps when possible
I always stayed away from anything that is Chrome related.
I use Duckduckgo as my browser.
Brave is another...
axelmasok said:
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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Aulgreg38 said:
As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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IT would be best to wait for a custom ROM to sideload
Yeah,uhumm..Me too want a Google phone without Google apps.Yes,uhumm also i want a stable OS without bugs and good performance, good battery life too.But not the way Google make the phone, the chip and HIS operating system.no, no,no i want to archive this any other way possible.Then U see this dude coming back with "I don't know what's happening, I have a lot of bugs and a lot of app crashing. My system is unstable. I don't want this phone.Copy his user name and wait..
Here are the apps I froze. I could probably freeze more but it's a good start i'd say. I didn't sign in to any google account. It's not perfect but that's temporary, patiently waiting for custom ROMs too
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
axelmasok said:
Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Sure, let me know if I missed any other app that seems important to freeze.
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
96carboard said:
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
Tomatot- said:
It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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1) My build wouldn't help you. Like I said, its for p6p, not the basic-p6 in here.
2) 15 minutes of reading is all it takes to figure out how to build it yourself. The security risk of using something built by someone you don't know doesn't justify it.
3) couldn't tell you about fingerprint sensors, biometric security isn't protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, so I would never use and recommend that nobody ever use it. You should only use knowledge-based security.
I guess we are lazy? Or an underestimated minority?
I'm wondering why an AOSP build isn't available already from some kind person, or even a walk through with comments and experiences from someone already on this planet? Nothing on Youtube either.
Or is it so easy people do it quietly and assume it's common knowledge.
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
sic0048 said:
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
96carboard said:
You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
sic0048 said:
Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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You can enjoy Android without enjoying Google bloat/spyware you know...
I think they are just joking with the iPhone jib so no need to overreact all.
I read up on source.android.com and it all looks well documented yes. But.
400G of free HDD space, 60GB+ of source to download, overnight compiling....
I've not done it before, let alone testing on a brand new phone...plus with 2 kids and a puppy and not much sleep...
If your in your 20s and have a couple of Pixel phones and lots of free time - have a go and let us know your experiences creating a ROM. If it works on your P6, I'll try it on mine
Those many GB is not that much these days. Not like anyone is using 9600 bps dialup any more. And overnight compiles are not that bad, not like you really need to watch it. Set it to go and go to bed.
Or if you have a faster computer, just give it an hour.
But I do hear you on the kids and dog getting in the way. I have 3 kids under 10 and a dog. Oh, I'm an accountant.
It's funny that people use Android and try to De-Google their phone.
What is even more hilarious is buying a phone actually made by Google themselves and trying to De-Goolge that same device