Guys I bought this device when it first came out, never did I ever think there would be zero dev interest in the device, or perhaps it would be better to state that the reason there isn't much in the way of dev interest is because Huawei has this device locked down with EMUI and it appears no one can break through. For those who don't need root then this doesn't really matter, but most of my apps do require root. My final solution was to forget the Huawei device and I bought what I believe is the most powerful device on the market today and I've already rooted it and I'm flying along. That device is the Asus Rog Phone 2, you might want to take a look at this and then decide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wwe5OW_jPE
I wish all of you the very best but I had enough of Huawei. To be fair I don't think the problem is all about Huawei, a big part of it is the clown in the White House.
I'm out of here, Krissy
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Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
Take a look here.
rubiicon59 said:
Lol @ White House clown.
Interesting review you linked, I'm going to do some more research into the phone, although I'm far from a gamer.
It would be good if you posted your thoughts after using it for a few weeks.
Good luck, I hope you still have the same enthusiasm after getting used to it.
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I'm not a gamer either, my philosophy however is that gaming devices are more reliable and sturdy because of the punishment they take from actual gamer's. My thought is it if holds up for a gamer then it should be no problem for me. So far this phone has proven me correct. One of the specs that blows me away is that there is a setting to set the device to 240 refresh, that's pretty darn quick. If you have any questions I'm open to answering them, that's how impressed I am with this puppy
Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
"All your apps" require root? Your phone sounds FUN! Seriously, no games? No social media? I agree, a lot of apps need root, all of which are important, if you're rooted. Ad-block is the main reason for rooting, but you can't just have ad-block, you need Magisk manager, obviously. And twrp manager, because you need twrp to flash your root. Root browser, for those times you need to fix things you screwed up by being rooted. Greenify, to act as a placebo, because now you're rooted you can't be sure things work as they should. Busy Box for... erm, well nobody really knows what that's for. So yeah that's at least 6 apps. For one thing.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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Every phone I owned for the last 10 years was rooted. I bought the P30 Pro knowing I couldn't and wouldn't root, and I've never been happier.
Once I realised you can block ads using the private DNS feature in Android 10, all of the above was pointless.
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100% completely agree with you. Have rooted all my android phones in the last 10 years and bought P30 Pro knowing couldn't root it. I use adguard private DNS to block ads and then found out can used YouTube vanced on non rooted phones by simply installing the apk. After thinking could never live without root I'm finding it particularly easy at the moment!
I've rooted every Android phone I've ever had, except my Honor 9, but don't really feel the need for the P30 Pro. Sure there are apps I can't use or install because I'm not rooted but that doesn't detract from an amazing phone. Those [required root ] apps I can probably do without anyway.
Would you run Linux as root permanently? Really?
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
I am also disappointed but these days there is less and less reason for root. Right not, there are only three features I miss without root:
1. No Titanium Backup, so no easy way to do a full backup and make sure everything is backed up and can be restored
2. No way to limit battery charge (so it doesnt go up to 100%)
3. No DNS adblock (VPN work around is the closest I can find but that seems like it would drain battery)
rubiicon59 said:
The choice of rooting or not rooting should be a decision made by the owner of the device, not by the manufacturer. Android is marketed as open source; the practice of not allowing bootloader unlocking defeats that entirely.
Would you buy a car to then be told you're not allowed to modify it in any way? Really?
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Android is NOT "marketed as open source". Show me a commercial website where it is "marketed" as such.
Android IS open source for OEMs to adapt to their devices! You bought a piece of hardware from Huawei, with a compiled Android OS. You can get the source code for Android if you want, but it comes with no hardware and no guarantee.
And your car analogy is terrible. Imagine modifying your car's software... and then your tachometer doesn't work right, or your battery drains, or your car won't start... totally unacceptable. Yet you want to do that to your phone?
I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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I want the option to do whatever I wish. It's really quite a simple concept
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The closest analogy for the car example is remapping the ECU. Manufacturers go to great lengths to encrypt ECUs and prevent mapping - much like locking a bootloader.
A lot of car mappers have to physically solder wires to certain points on the ECU circuitboard to enable them to map and edit the ECU programming. I'm fairly certain that if you went to that extreme to root your phone you could manage it, but nobody wants root *that* much.
And if you own a car that no engine mapper fancies finding a way to map? You're SOL - much like you are with your P30 Pro.
I used to root, now I dont. I find the devices now do 99% of the things I need without root. The 1%? I can live without Titanium Backup.
I'm sure the Asus device is powerful, but a lot of the people here bought the P30 Pro because they wanted a P30 Pro, not a different phone. Thanks for the review, but it's like going on a VW forum and saying 'OMG guys, sell up and go buy this BMW - IT'S AMAZING' - we're here because we wanted the VW...
@Isis111
Now you've had your ROG 2 for a while how are you getting along with it?
Since this thread I've been following the ROG 2 forum but even though root is available there's not much development happening. I was initially very interested after you started this thread but now I'm not sure the ROG 2 is as good as you said.
So I'm interested what your thoughts are now.
Also, what version do you have, and have you been impressed enough to buy any accessories?
Cheers
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I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Its simple. If you want root... and can't do it, then don't upgrade the firmware.
There is a mind set that people have... (me included somewhat)...
... its that we want 'updates' and think that it going to make our device so much better or faster than before. Reality is that despite a couple of fix's that we have had recently, the updates are not essential. or have not improved our experience dramatically. There is no need to update... its not going to give you much.
for me root is essential. I wont be updating to 290 unless I can get my ROM rooted and full working.
I know I'm ranting.... but when in Rome... :victory:
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LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
hykhleif said:
LORDDDDD man I love your replies to my threads, I am starting to enjoy that you watch all my posts.
But seriously is that going to be the trend for getting root from now on that we have to wait for long times. I hope not. As root is very important for me as I use gl2sd app to move my big games to external sd.
why Is rooting a certain device more difficult than others, is because we don't have too many developers that bought our device. I just would like to know.
why for example samsung devices almost instantly get root?
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You want unlocked phone right? Unlock bootloader then, as simple as it gets.
Samsung is different because:
1. A lot of consumer which are hackers too, there
2. Samsung device is battery removable, indicating that it is much easier to access the device hardware wise. It was easy to semi-'unlock' my Xperia Ray due to removable battery.
3. AFAIK with all this, it seems that Samsung's devices is not as secure as Sony's devices. Have heard about rootkit virus in Desktop? Yeah the same problem came into mind with a rootable device which is insecure to hacker attack to alter the system partition.
So the only way out if you MUST have ROOT is to unlock the bootloader (i.e. it is purely your device, no Sony warranty will cover it). Unless some extreme hacker more extreme than our friend DoomLord could find the hole while keeping bootloader locked, we can wave goodbye to root in the mean time. Even if the mentioned miracle happens, Sony will quickly patch the hole for you
hykhleif said:
I don't know from where to start, why is it these days that rooting is such a pain 257 is still non directly routable so I guess the new firmware will take ages to root, when I dumped the iPhone to android it was because I wanted to enjoy freedom from a locked system. Now I see this going on with android and more noticeable with this sony z ultra. I am tired and really regret buying this phone.
I am sure LORD MANHATTAN will love this thread
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Lord Manhattan is not the one you should worry about but rather moderators...
Root is achieved through exploits as they do represent a security breach in the OS. In other words, root is a double edged sword as giving permissions to the wrong app for the wrong thing could lead to bad consequences. Because companies don't exactly feel like being liable for leaving a "vulnerable device" in the shelves, they normally tend to tighten things like this up.
Devs on xda (and the entire Android community for that matter) work very hard to bring you the exploits. Getting impatient and ranting about your discontent will only make you look like self entitled and will do nothing but to give an open entry for people who love the community to flame you to smithereens...
With that being said, I am closing your thread. Please don't post like this anymore.... it is entirely useless and you will do nothing other than piss people off.
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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The only thought to be had about the matter right now is, it might require KNOX, it might not.
It's not even a thing at the moment, so there's just no real information about it out there.
i'm willing to give up root for samsung pay.
samsung pay is so awesome! it said loopPay works with 90% of retailers, so which 10% of retailers dont work?
dcmtnbkr said:
So it's been a while since I've used a samsung device (note 3). Normally, the first thing I do when I get a new phone is root it, but I'm concerned that samsung pay will require knox to be intact. Any thoughts? Was a way to reset knox ever discovered for newer samsung phones? Just thinking out loud.
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Plus their talking the summer before it's live and that's just the U.S., and Korea, that means NOTHING in the real world. Who's summer, early or late summer, is it a update the carries must push or just an app? I wanted to give it a go if it was "working out the box" but again it was another Samsung marketing scheme! Note 5, S7, may have it working out the box.
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I can't imagine that Knox will be required for samsung pay, but having an unrooted phone might..
Time will tell
Confirmed, samsung pay won't work with rooted phones
http://www.gsmarena.com/rooting_your_galaxy_s6_or_s6_edge_will_disable_samsung_pay-news-11984.php
how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
netnerd said:
how is it confirmed ?
loopPay is not out yet, no one has used it.
I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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It might no be 100% confirmed but common sense would say that it wouldn't work with a modified OS. Payment security is a big deal and massive concern for many company's .
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I beginning to question... maybe Samsung say s6 support loopPay just so they can sell more phones !
why can't I use loopPay now ? what is with this summer BS ?
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i dont get it either. apple devices support ApplePay at day one. Facepalm.
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
wase4711 said:
It wont improve your life..
Logic rarely comes into play when a cell phone feature is marketed as "must have";
The reality is, if you plan on using your cell phone as your financial conduit in your daily life, you have to be prepared to deal with the consequences of identity theft, hackers, and the nightmare of a lost or misplaced /hacked/phone /credit card machine..
I mean I have used Google wallet a couple times for proof of concept, but I am much too cautious, and concerned about using ANY electronic device in the manner that Samsung is hawking this process; don't forget, Samsung will make a commission on EVERY TRANSACTION you might do with your cell phone, so, as always, its only motivation is more profit for Samsung, nothing more, and nothing less
If you are all for that, enjoy this procedure, whenever it happens to come out.
But, the vast majority of us will continue to pay as we always have..
Its just as easy to take a credit card out of my pocket, as it is to take my cell phone out of my pocket..
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Good reply. Thanks. Just thought I was missing something .
Cheers
tiboric said:
I'm I the only one whos wondering how this will improve my life? I mean am i missing an obvious feature of sampay? will all my cards suddenly stop working? LoL It'll be cool and all that but how will it change the way I do anything?
Just wondering why so many people won't root for something that a piece of plastic I already have in my wallet does?
I need to be educated more on this topic
Cheers
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It won't drastically improve your life, but it's a practical feature that can be useful for some people. Maybe for people who don't like carrying wallets. You can just stick your ID in between your phone and your phone case, and you're good to go.
Also, if you forget your wallet... Something that might happen these days considering how everyone has their phone with them no matter what.
If we can use Samsung pay with next Gear Watch like Apple did with their Watch... Man, that is huge.
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Try signing my petition to allow rooted users to use Samsung Pay
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-allow-people-with-rooted-phones-to-use-samsung-pay
Signed.
Hello there I'm an avid android user rooting and roms. I wanted to ask everyone about how we can grow a community for verizon wewr 24 smart watch. Given the price $80 I think it's the best bang for the bucks as every other watch is north of 200. Wanted to know how I could make that happen. Coz with custom rom unlocked bootloader this thing could be a beast !!
Well I bought one, and I can second the fact that I would be interested in using a custom rom. However what you need is someone who can actually get into the nuts and bolts, to buy one and feel like if they put time into doing that work, that there would be a big enough audience that it would be worth it. There has to be at least a decent sized audience, then you might get a second wave of buys from this community if people see progress. So I think step one, show that an audience of users that want a custom rom on the Wear24 exists.
I also have some interest. I'd be willing to help, but I'm not really sure where to start. I know that with phones Verizon has locked the bootloader and made it tough to get root. I wonder if that is the case with the watch also.
I'm also super interested, mainly to enable NFC (for Android Pay, which seems to be a problem for rooted phones) and LTE on other networks. I'm still waiting on mine to arrive in the UK, it's currently stuck at ebay's Global Shipping Center for more than 4 days. I don't know the first thing about developing a root or custom rom, but I'll try to learn.
Hey guys,
I am also interested in development for this watch, I've kept it on wear v1.5 for now, since I enjoy using it for the mic from time to time, and have disabled cellular and the sim, and am getting around 3 days of consistent battery life with light use, always on screen, and motion wake. Some issues I am having - besides the annoyingly persistent update available notification, is that phone calls from my contacts come in on the watch, but unknown calls don't notify me. Additionally, using ok google to text works but the watch still displays an error and to do it on the phone.
Adb seems to require a rooted watch to disable the vzn messages+ or the update notification - as it kept giving me errors, but maybe someone else can figure that out. I also tried the command oem unlock with no luck, as I couldn't get the watch to accept adb commands in recovery.
My recovery mode lists the watch as dorado v1.21.
Any suggestions/advice?
I also just purchased one. They are now on sale for 50$. I would be willing to toss an additional 50$ to the first developer that could get a clean running android wear port running. And enable the NFC. I am not a verizon customer, nor do i have any intention of ever activation the LTE on a watch.
I too jumped on the $50 price tag in hopes of root and custom ROM at some point in the near future. Would be cool to make this thing as good as it could be instead of the gutted version Verizon tried to sell us.
Same here , got one for $50 today. hoping to find port a clean 2.0 rom. Willing to help.
Got one for $50 today as well.
Perhaps we find a developer and buy them a watch
Another new guy here as of my order today.
Definitely interested in a clean wear 2.0 ROM, and happy to test - watch was an impulse buy due to price, so willing to risk bricks.
Same here guys. Been on the fence for months about buying a smartwatch. I wanted one like Fossil or Movado (super pricey), but in no way could justify the pricing, especially with missing features like Android Pay and not even having Wear 3.0.
At $50, I don't care about missing features now!
Where can I find the 2.7 update or any custom wear rom?
I had one of these watches when they first launched. I returned it because of the vzw crap they put on it. I don't like Verizon messages app and it really wants you to use it. I would buy one again and also throw in $50 to anyone willing to get root and work a custom ROM for it. I have rooted all of my previous Android phones before the pixel XL and would love to root this watch to get rid of vzw apps and just run what I want with better functionality! If anyone is interested please let us know!
Also picked up the $50 watch and would love to have a clean watch as well. NFC payment would be a plus but mostly want to get all the junk off this watch.
Has anyone had any success with contacting verizon to get them to release the GPL source code ?
I think that would be the best place to start.
Find some contact info. and start bombarding them en mass with requests.
grendude said:
Has anyone had any success with contacting verizon to get them to release the GPL source code ?
I think that would be the best place to start.
Find some contact info. and start bombarding them en mass with requests.
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Isn't this just a white-label device? If so, would we target Verizon for GPL or the actual manufacturer, Quanta Computer?
id increase the bounty, $25 from me to a dev who can get NFC working and extra LTE band support
Found this interesting. In a verizon promo video it has the android pay app on the watch. I won't get mine until next week. Is this app on there but doesn't work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN3W6th6lPI&t=0m30s
Screenshot of the youtube video
https://imgur.com/a/nWj0s
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id increase the bounty, $25 from me to a dev who can get NFC working and extra LTE band support
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I started setting up a gofundme... But lost interest, to much work to set one up. I thing a 15-20$ buy in would raise quite a bit of money for a developer
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id increase the bounty, $25 from me to a dev who can get NFC working and extra LTE band support
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I don't care about LTE, but I'm in for $20 for NFC functional with Android pay.
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I don't care about LTE, but I'm in for $20 for NFC functional with Android pay.
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I'm in 20 for nfc and android pay and an extra 30 if we get root or rom
I've went back and forth rooting my device started with my Galaxy tablet device I own back years ago (I use iphone back then). See my signature.
It was fun experimenting with root, but not necessarily useful. After awhile, I flash back stock rom into it and just use it as it is. Jailbreaking an iphone was the same, was fun at first but along time cydia got my iphone very unstable and prone to crashes.
Then my first venture to Android phones started with Oneplus One, on which after Cyanogen stop their development I went into Oxygen, which was very horrible (I don't know about the later versions though).
Then stumbled into Slimroms and Lineage OS on which for a year or two got them installed with root enabled. The only thing that really helps to get the device pleasant to use is adblocking (ad away). I've also used Magisk, tried different modules in it, but I don't feel any difference. What I like about magisk is that it can hide root to root sensitive apps (like banking apps).
Nevertheless, I've tried different root apps, like firewall, DNS forwarding, VPN, automation, cleaners and boosters. None of them really caught my interest for a long time, as for example, for boosters OPO is already too powerful for 3DMark (Ice Storm). Well other benchmark were not compatible with OPO since as far as I'm concerned it's 32 bit processor under Android 8.1.0.
Trimming down the OS is not too useful as well, since Lineage is already sporting barebone android without any bloat at all. I've even tried MicroG Lineage, but a lot of apps don't work well since they require proper Google services running. I got my OPO startup logo change to my personal logo (changed logo.bin), and it looks neat. But after that nothing else interest me. Backup apps? Titanium backup? I already got TWRP which will backup everything.
For gaming, I did use sixaxis, but then I bought myself a bluetooth gamepad. Probably tincore should be useful for gaming, but I didn't try it yet. I mostly play emulators anyway and they supported the gamepad out of the box, so tincore will be pretty much pointless.
I'm now on Oneplus One, with TWRP, combined with Android go settings (https://www.xda-developers.com/android-oreo-android-go-low-ram-patcher/). It's blazing fast and it's my daily driver currently. I got a spare Mi A1 with Android Pie and Mi 4A with Nougat. Probably will switch to Mi A1 and use my OPO for gaming on the go and experiments later (such as this thread). I still love my Oneplus One, as it's a very capable device even today without too much bells and whistles and unnecessary features.
Well, that's my intro on my experience on rooting. Here're the questions :
1. Is there any point for rooting, specially for casual users/non power users/daily use today? And for this matter custom roms?
2. If yes, what root apps do you use regularly?
3. What magisk modules do you actually use intensively and really change your android experience?
4. What else do I need to know?
Thank you.
Answers to your questions
stubbe said:
I've went back and forth rooting my device started with my Galaxy tablet device I own back years ago (I use iphone back then). See my signature.
It was fun experimenting with root, but not necessarily useful. After awhile, I flash back stock rom into it and just use it as it is. Jailbreaking an iphone was the same, was fun at first but along time cydia got my iphone very unstable and prone to crashes.
Then my first venture to Android phones started with Oneplus One, on which after Cyanogen stop their development I went into Oxygen, which was very horrible (I don't know about the later versions though).
Then stumbled into Slimroms and Lineage OS on which for a year or two got them installed with root enabled. The only thing that really helps to get the device pleasant to use is adblocking (ad away). I've also used Magisk, tried different modules in it, but I don't feel any difference. What I like about magisk is that it can hide root to root sensitive apps (like banking apps).
Nevertheless, I've tried different root apps, like firewall, DNS forwarding, VPN, automation, cleaners and boosters. None of them really caught my interest for a long time, as for example, for boosters OPO is already too powerful for 3DMark (Ice Storm). Well other benchmark were not compatible with OPO since as far as I'm concerned it's 32 bit processor under Android 8.1.0.
Trimming down the OS is not too useful as well, since Lineage is already sporting barebone android without any bloat at all. I've even tried MicroG Lineage, but a lot of apps don't work well since they require proper Google services running. I got my OPO startup logo change to my personal logo (changed logo.bin), and it looks neat. But after that nothing else interest me. Backup apps? Titanium backup? I already got TWRP which will backup everything.
For gaming, I did use sixaxis, but then I bought myself a bluetooth gamepad. Probably tincore should be useful for gaming, but I didn't try it yet. I mostly play emulators anyway and they supported the gamepad out of the box, so tincore will be pretty much pointless.
I'm now on Oneplus One, with TWRP, combined with Android go settings (https://www.xda-developers.com/android-oreo-android-go-low-ram-patcher/). It's blazing fast and it's my daily driver currently. I got a spare Mi A1 with Android Pie and Mi 4A with Nougat. Probably will switch to Mi A1 and use my OPO for gaming on the go and experiments later (such as this thread). I still love my Oneplus One, as it's a very capable device even today without too much bells and whistles and unnecessary features.
Well, that's my intro on my experience on rooting. Here're the questions :
1. Is there any point for rooting, specially for casual users/non power users/daily use today? And for this matter custom roms?
2. If yes, what root apps do you use regularly?
3. What magisk modules do you actually use intensively and really change your android experience?
4. What else do I need to know?
Thank you.
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1:yes for example lineage and twrp
2:twrp,lucky patcher,setcpu,live boot and root explorer
3:none really
4: be careful flashing a custom rom one wrong move will brick your android
jkalter11 said:
1:yes for example lineage and twrp
2:twrp,lucky patcher,setcpu,live boot and root explorer
3:none really
4: be careful flashing a custom rom one wrong move will brick your android
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1. I AM using Lineage. What I'm asking is : is there any point of enabling root in Lineage for daily use?
2. So nothing that actually helps your daily use, the fact that all those tools are actually help you with root, instead of helping you to utilize the root. IIRC lucky**** wasn't allowed to be discussed in this forum BTW. I did use it back then, but merely for ad blocking. It's effective to those ads that adaway couldn't handle.
3. That's my point.
4. Thank you Captain Obvious.
I probably should rephrase the questions :
Is there any real magisk enthusiast can point out the benefits of using the modules for daily use, actually? I'm not bashing Magisk, in fact I'm interested in using it again, but have no idea for what.
Yes I know if it doesn't do me anything, nor do I feel need it, I shouldn't use it. But since I already know my way on rooting (and magisk), I should at least try utilizing it to its full potential, if it would help me in everyday tasks. Probably I'm missing something or such. That's is what this thread is about.
Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
I'm with you in this, impatiently waiting for Calyx/Graphene A12 and P6 support. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much we can do until then. Just restrict as many permissions as you can, don't sign in to too many things and use websites instead of apps when possible
I always stayed away from anything that is Chrome related.
I use Duckduckgo as my browser.
Brave is another...
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Did some reading and there are a few guides but not sure what might be best for this new Pixel6.
Whilst I wait for the ability to use a Google-Free ROM, is there an app or script or list of apps/services to disable etc that would work i can follow?
I'm kinda wanting to have a play with this phone but don't want it updating itself or tracking me...
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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As of now there r no custom roms for pixel 6 so inorder to degoogle u would have to extract the g apps from the factory firmware and then flash it that way but I've never done that myself
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IT would be best to wait for a custom ROM to sideload
Yeah,uhumm..Me too want a Google phone without Google apps.Yes,uhumm also i want a stable OS without bugs and good performance, good battery life too.But not the way Google make the phone, the chip and HIS operating system.no, no,no i want to archive this any other way possible.Then U see this dude coming back with "I don't know what's happening, I have a lot of bugs and a lot of app crashing. My system is unstable. I don't want this phone.Copy his user name and wait..
Here are the apps I froze. I could probably freeze more but it's a good start i'd say. I didn't sign in to any google account. It's not perfect but that's temporary, patiently waiting for custom ROMs too
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Yep I guess we wait for the clean ROMS and such.
Thanks for sharing tomatot - I have done a bit of that already. Will check your list against mine
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Sure, let me know if I missed any other app that seems important to freeze.
I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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I don't know if any of you realize this, but p6/p6p have first class support in aosp. Take 15 minutes to read the instructions and build it from source yourself.
I'm running a self built aosp12r14 on my p6p right now and even typing this message from it.
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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It'd be nice if you'd share your build with the community. Is everything working including fingerprint scanner?
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1) My build wouldn't help you. Like I said, its for p6p, not the basic-p6 in here.
2) 15 minutes of reading is all it takes to figure out how to build it yourself. The security risk of using something built by someone you don't know doesn't justify it.
3) couldn't tell you about fingerprint sensors, biometric security isn't protected by anti-self-incrimination laws, so I would never use and recommend that nobody ever use it. You should only use knowledge-based security.
I guess we are lazy? Or an underestimated minority?
I'm wondering why an AOSP build isn't available already from some kind person, or even a walk through with comments and experiences from someone already on this planet? Nothing on Youtube either.
Or is it so easy people do it quietly and assume it's common knowledge.
You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You know they make phones without Google installed on them, right? They are called iPhones and are pretty popular too.
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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You realize that those are 100% closed source and locked and completely and utterly useless?
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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Yes, which is why I use only Android phones.
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You can enjoy Android without enjoying Google bloat/spyware you know...
I think they are just joking with the iPhone jib so no need to overreact all.
I read up on source.android.com and it all looks well documented yes. But.
400G of free HDD space, 60GB+ of source to download, overnight compiling....
I've not done it before, let alone testing on a brand new phone...plus with 2 kids and a puppy and not much sleep...
If your in your 20s and have a couple of Pixel phones and lots of free time - have a go and let us know your experiences creating a ROM. If it works on your P6, I'll try it on mine
Those many GB is not that much these days. Not like anyone is using 9600 bps dialup any more. And overnight compiles are not that bad, not like you really need to watch it. Set it to go and go to bed.
Or if you have a faster computer, just give it an hour.
But I do hear you on the kids and dog getting in the way. I have 3 kids under 10 and a dog. Oh, I'm an accountant.
It's funny that people use Android and try to De-Google their phone.
What is even more hilarious is buying a phone actually made by Google themselves and trying to De-Goolge that same device