Hello,
Just recently I noticed I can't send long sms anymore from my O2 XDA. Before it used to work. The only thing I've done is to add general sw to it, in addition to that patch showing senders name rather than only mobile number when receiving new sms-messages.
Does anyone have a clue what this is? I have checked all SMS settings and they are definitely fine.
The error message I get is this one:
'Your SMS message cannot be sent. Contact your customer service center for more information.'
Hmmmm... please help..
Fred
guest
What version Rom?
What software have you added?
ROM version: 3.14.17 ENG
Radio version: 4.17 (just upgraded, but had problem also before that)
Protocol version 32S54
Programs added recently:
SMS-Name Patch (Paragon Software SMS Name)
HTC PROGRAMME B (the radio-upgrade..??)
ACDSee Mobile for WinCE
Macromedia Flash Player
Tillanosoft SmallMenu
DK ipCalc
Spb GPRS Monitor
Pocket Media PocketDivx
.. and some more..
I don't know when it happened, because I usually do not write
so many long sms messages..
Fred
(it's me again, got a username now..)
I hereby conclude that my problems sending long sms's must be something weird with my local Telenor Mobil provider in Norway. I was in Monaco last week, and I had no problems at all to send long sms's, even to same recipients that did not work before... And even by using the same Norwegian sms centre... hmmm, really strange thing.. So I reported this to my provider, of course getting all general nonsense replies with settings on mobile etc, but they also admitted that the QTEK1010 phone could only send messages less than the length of 2 sms's at a time????
I don't understand this at all... is my phone pushing the sms's out too quickly for the sms centre? does it think I am flooding it??
Any ideas here, any other free sms message centres I could try this with?
FS
Has anyone found a software tool that will show Cell Broadcast Info, as what the average nokia phone will do. Have played around with tracelog, but would ideally like a today plugin that displayed the info.
AFAIK, under Settings -> Phone -> More tab, you can setup the cell broadcast channel you are interested it.
However the annoying thing is, as cell broadcast messages are basically SMSes, pocketpc basically regards them as normal SMS messages, and store them into your Inbox.
And yes, a pluging for Today sounds like a very good idea. :wink:
P.S. I can never get anything out of the TraceLogger... what have you set to make it do/show something?
Pigeon
The thing to which you are refering is an "enhancement" that the networks can make to provide value added features such as news & weather reports. It's use is dependant on whether its been implemented by the network. That cell will just send any info its programmed with to any unit that has the facility switched on/enabled.
I think that Lampard is after Cell ID type stuff. Rest assured that if you follow the instructions in This Thread you can obtain a readout in real-time of your current cell id + some other bits. Its a case of running the tracelogger & then start-up the tracelog viewer after, otherwise it doesn't work, only reporting historical.
I'm afraid I do not know of any other available programs to make use of or display this info.
Background: I've flashed with DCD's 3.0.4 rom, Verizon XV6800. ArcSoft MMS 5.0.31.11 running.
Question: How can you tell on this if an SMS text you send is read by the recipient? Honestly, I couldn't even figure that out when the phone was stock. I know on this version of ArcSoft MMS there's actually a checkbox for delivery and read reports in the MMS Options...but I only get a delivery report when sending an MMS (not a SMS message) and even THEN I can't tell when it has been read.
Is it just not possible? Older phones show a little D or a checkmark by the message when it's read...how about our flashier PPC's? Anyone know?
Older phones show a little D or a checkmark by the message when it's read...how about our flashier PPC's? Anyone know?
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The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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Any way to get that? or to check somewhere and see if the message has been delivered?
Any way to get that? or to check somewhere and see if the message has been delivered?
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Yes there is a way, but there are cons. It either clutters your inbox, or you are forced to delete a message everytime you send one.
Navigate to HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings and change DisableSMSDeliveryReceipt to 0 and change SMSDeliveryNotify to 1 and soft reset.
Give it a try, if it annoys you, to go back to normal, just flip flop them.
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Yes there is a way, but there are cons. It either clutters your inbox, or you are forced to delete a message everytime you send one.
Navigate to HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings and change DisableSMSDeliveryReceipt to 0 and change SMSDeliveryNotify to 1 and soft reset.
Give it a try, if it annoys you, to go back to normal, just flip flop them.
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if youve got threaded sms, woulndt it store it all on one thread?
I dont actually know how or what it does, but just a thought...
thanks, will give it a try though.
gcincotta said:
The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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I was going by a friend who has Verizon and a Motorola phone and he claims that when his texts are read by recipients that it places a checkmark on his phone. Your point makes sense though.
Back to the original question however...what about on our XV6800's? Is there any way to tell when an SMS is read?
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The D or checkmark does not indicate if the message has been read, rather it indicates if the message was received by the recipient's handset. For example, if the recipient had their phone off, the checkmark would not appear until they turned it on and the message was delivered to their phone.
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Actually most phones have a delivered and a read notification. like on my girlfriends u740 it'll have the delivered time and then the read time below it. I used to have a blackberry and it would put a check if it was delivered and a check+D if it was read. I'd love to have this feature but i don't think anyone has found a workaround yet
Actually most phones have a delivered and a read notification. like on my girlfriends u740 it'll have the delivered time and then the read time below it. I used to have a blackberry and it would put a check if it was delivered and a check+D if it was read. I'd love to have this feature but i don't think anyone has found a workaround yet
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Again, these times are NOT when the person actually reads the message. They lead you to believe that that's the case when it is not. In the case of your friend's phone, the delivered time is actually the time that the message was relayed from the network to the recipient, and the read time is the time when the handset actually receives the message. The message could sit in the recipient's Inbox for 3 weeks unread and you would never know the difference. Nevertheless, this feature does not exist on windows mobile devices and the only workaround is getting a message from System Administrator telling you the message was sent successful every time you send one. Messages from System Administrator are NOT threaded.
Example: I turn notify on and send a message but I don't have service. The message looks like it goes through on my end, but until I receive the System Administrator notification, it technically hasn't been received yet. Like I said, this clutters the Inbox with all those messages as they are not threaded, or you can delete the notification after every time you send a message. This is the only way to achieve something like this.
but even if it is succesfully sent, does that indicate receipt of the message? do you get notification when u have succesfully sent the message, even if the recipient has their phone off?
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Again, these times are NOT when the person actually reads the message. They lead you to believe that that's the case when it is not. In the case of your friend's phone, the delivered time is actually the time that the message was relayed from the network to the recipient, and the read time is the time when the handset actually receives the message. The message could sit in the recipient's Inbox for 3 weeks unread and you would never know the difference.
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So I tested this and on her u740 she sent me a message and i received it like 10 secs later and it showed delivered at that time. I waited about an hour and opened the message(even though I could read it when it came through) and closed out of my texts which got rid of the notification and it added delivered 10 mins later.
I'm pretty sure this is only a verizon thing and almost every verizon non windows phone is capable of this feature. Also verizon only charges for text messages that are read from the handset if you don't have unlimited texts which is prob why they have this feature.
Maybe it's not a feature available on our phones but It is possible to have.
So I tested this and on her u740 she sent me a message and i received it like 10 secs later and it showed delivered at that time. I waited about an hour and opened the message(even though I could read it when it came through) and closed out of my texts which got rid of the notification and it added delivered 10 mins later.
I'm pretty sure this is only a verizon thing and almost every verizon non windows phone is capable of this feature. Also verizon only charges for text messages that are read from the handset if you don't have unlimited texts which is prob why they have this feature.
Maybe it's not a feature available on our phones but It is possible to have.
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Ok well I thought we were talking about straight SMS with no EMS application extension (which is the feature you're referring to).
I'll explain a little about the SMS system.
You get the D notification when it is a subscriber within your network (i.e. Verizon to Verizon as you've been testing), it has to do with a specific signature flag that is triggered from within that network and does not cross networks.
The check mark means the cell tower has received and cached the message on the tower server for queuing to be transmitted. Once the SMS message has left queuing and goes to transit, which means it has left the tower's local server and has been sent to the carrier message manager (or out to a different network), then the D appears saying the message has been delivered. This really means "message has been delivered to the network" not necessarily to the recipient's device. Most of the time it happens so fast it usually hits the person's handset roughly within 3-5 seconds which coincidentally is the same time the queue server will send you the D flag to notify you it's been delivered. It's a pretty accurate indicator, but is completely unrelated. This D does not indicate when the message was read. In some instances, the person's handset can be off and you'll still get the D.
The times and updated times you're seeing on the u740 is part of the Enhanced Messaging Service, or EMS, application extension to SMS. The u740 is an EMS capable device, which is why you're seeing these updates. Windows Mobile devices are NOT EMS capable, which is why you'll never see this feature, nor will you see any workaround or fix. The only way you'll be able to get this feature is if you ditch your Titan for an EMS capable non smart phone, or if in the future they decide to make WM EMS capable.
Hopefully this clears up the confusion a little.
GC
gcincotta said:
Ok well I thought we were talking about straight SMS with no EMS application extension (which is the feature you're referring to).
I'll explain a little about the SMS system.
You get the D notification when it is a subscriber within your network (i.e. Verizon to Verizon as you've been testing), it has to do with a specific signature flag that is triggered from within that network and does not cross networks.
The check mark means the cell tower has received and cached the message on the tower server for queuing to be transmitted. Once the SMS message has left queuing and goes to transit, which means it has left the tower's local server and has been sent to the carrier message manager (or out to a different network), then the D appears saying the message has been delivered. This really means "message has been delivered to the network" not necessarily to the recipient's device. Most of the time it happens so fast it usually hits the person's handset roughly within 3-5 seconds which coincidentally is the same time the queue server will send you the D flag to notify you it's been delivered. It's a pretty accurate indicator, but is completely unrelated. This D does not indicate when the message was read. In some instances, the person's handset can be off and you'll still get the D.
The times and updated times you're seeing on the u740 is part of the Enhanced Messaging Service, or EMS, application extension to SMS. The u740 is an EMS capable device, which is why you're seeing these updates. Windows Mobile devices are NOT EMS capable, which is why you'll never see this feature, nor will you see any workaround or fix. The only way you'll be able to get this feature is if you ditch your Titan for an EMS capable non smart phone, or if in the future they decide to make WM EMS capable.
Hopefully this clears up the confusion a little.
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Ok, so in essence you are saying that the ability to know when an SMS message is read does not exist, even with EMS capabilities. Why, on Windows Mobile phones, does the ArcSoft MMS Composer give a checkbox to Allow Read Reports for MMS Messages as if that is a feature that works, yet I haven't even seen that work for MMS messages either? Is that just because Verizon's network doesn't support read reports/receipts? I would think that there would be a way of knowing when a message is read (much like read receipts in Outlook, although the recipient has the option to not send the read receipt, but that's neither here nor there).
EMS phones have read reports, but apparently we don't have an EMS phone
EMS phones have read reports, but apparently we don't have an EMS phone
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You are correct.
I was doing a little research on the capabilities of EMS and MMS, and came across something interesting in the wikipedia listing for EMS:
EMS is an intermediate technology, between SMS and MMS, providing some of the features of MMS. EMS is a technology that is designed to work with existing networks, but may ultimately be made obsolete by MMS.
What's perplexing there is that we know EMS is an extension to SMS, and it is saying that EMS is intermediate to MMS...so why doesn't MMS include all SMS and EMS capabilities?
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What's perplexing there is that we know EMS is an extension to SMS, and it is saying that EMS is intermediate to MMS...so why doesn't MMS include all SMS and EMS capabilities?
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it does, but the carrier must choose to configure the mms client and mms server to support those capabilities.
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... Windows Mobile devices are NOT EMS capable, which is why you'll never see this feature, nor will you see any workaround or fix. The only way you'll be able to get this feature is if you ditch your Titan for an EMS capable non smart phone, or if in the future they decide to make WM EMS capable.
Hopefully this clears up the confusion a little.
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apparently at some point MS and VZ planned on ems in wm- the press releases from the 6700 mention ems:
http://news.vzw.com/news/2006/01/pr2006-01-04b.html
but a bit more current:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa919404.aspx
seems wm 6 has a regedit to allow ems.
anyone made progress getting ems to work with wm6 (or 6.1) on vz?
I have used a variety of wifi texting services like Heywire, Textfree, etc. The problem is that I am assigned a new number. I don't have data, so even though I might explain to people to text me on my mobile carrier's number (I get free incoming) so that I can receive it wherever I am, they always end up getting confused and texting my wifi texting number and then wonder why I don't receive it right away (because I might not be connected to wifi when they send it).
I need an app that can text over wifi (so I can avoid charges) but uses MY phone number. Even if it doesn't actually use my phone number, I don't care. But as long as it forces the person getting the message to reply back to my mobile carrier number.
I tried mysms, as well as ChompSms, etc; but they all charge to send over wifi to users that don't have the app. And What'sApp and others like it forces the end user to also have the app.
The fact that there are apps like mysms and ChompSms that send sms messages over wifi with your own phone number to anyone that can receive sms shows that it's possible.
Does anyone know of a COMPLETELY FREE one?
Oh, and about mysms. It syncs everything together and just fine, for free. I am talking about purely wifi texting (NOT through my carrier... my carrier charges me 10 cents per outgoing text; incoming is free). Here is what I did to try and set it up.
Settings > Websms connectors
Chose: Mysms out
brought to Google Play Store, downloaded Mysms out connector.
Opened Mysms again
Went back to Settings > Websms connectors
Chose: Mysms out
Checked off "Enable mysms out"
Then I went to create a new message to someone, and tried to choose the "Mysms out" option, but it's always greyed out.
Do I need to add credits? Is that why it's grayed out? If I click on "current text rates" in the mysms out settings, it says "The current global text rate is $0.12 (international only).
I took that to mean that the US and Canada is free and that if I was to send texts internationally it would cost 12 cents.
I just want something that is free for basic texting in the US and Canada.
I tried using Beetalk too, but a) I don't understand how to send an sms in the app AT ALL, and b) I downloaded the Beetalk connector for for mysms's websms to send an sms through it (supposedly it will use my mobile number but through wifi only?) but I can't figure out how to sign in. Nothing will work.
For example, when I "sign up" in the Beetalk app, I enter my phone number and my name (which then is my username?) and it sends a confirmation number via text to my phone. I enter the confirmation number and then it logs me in. But in Mysms, I check it off to enable it, and then attempt to enter my username (at least what I think is my username?) and then I've tried the confirmation number as the password, my "BeeTalk ID" as my password... I have no idea. How do I know my username and password? BeeTalk doesn't even require a password. I tried logging out and then clicking "Log on", but then it gets me to do the process over again; phone number, name, confirmation number; then logs me in.
I am SO confused! Any ideas? I tried contacting the developers, but no response to my problems yet.
Can't do it
Found my answer for mysms. No texting to Canadian and American numbers: mysms.com/en/mysmsout
Any ideas on what else I can do?
Hello
I will be travelling to another country, however I wish to keep my (home country) current mobile connection (number) active since a lot of local (banking etc ) services and sms alert notifications are received on my home country mobile number.
I plan to keep my mobile switched on and hooked to the charger to let it run :
Hence I am looking for an Android App to :
1. Monitor the incoming calls and selectively based on rules either decide to offer a IVR recording to leave the message (recorded on the SD card in wav or amr format) OR forward the call to another predefined number (presumably my cell number in the visited country). The caller wont have to pay the charges for international calling, since the outgoing call from the cell is originated and the caller and receiver are connected as if being on a conference call.
2. Similarly monitor the incoming SMS and based on rules either store locally or forward to predefined international number.
3. For point number 1, an option to upload the recorded voice messages to an online service like google drive or dropbox, with the filename containing the caller number/name and date/time of the call, and delete from the phone after a successful upload. This way I can retrieve the voice messages via internet instead of using the mobile operator voice recording service.
Back in the days on my Nokia N95 there used to be an excellent symbian application which was able to do most as described above and more, I am looking for a similar type pf application on android.
I have seen that an app exist https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fahrbot.apps.blacklist&hl=en but it is more focused on the security and blocking aspect .
I am looking for an app which let you run a mini PABX on the mobile to offer similar functionality.
Does anything like this exists...Need your guidance and suggestion to find the correct app.
P.S :
The company making the symbian app, is maybe out of business but you can read about this excellent app (Interactive Voice Call Master) over here http://my-symbian.com/s60v3/software/applications.php?faq=1&fldAuto=156
Thanks.