Does anyone have information on upgrading the RAM to 64 Meg, last time I looked here there was some info on it but it seems to have gone
I would also like to know where to purchase the RAM Chips.
Try www.expansys.co.uk, they advertise two upgrades, 64Mb and 128Mb, although the 128Mb one is not available yet.
Yes I had seen the Expansys upgrade at £94.43 but I would prefer to buy the chip and do the upgrade myself, if possible.
THe problem is where to buy the right chip... and then install
Expansys are getting their upgrades from PPCTECH in the States, it might be worth contacting them for chips.
where to buy XDA memory cards from
You can buy extra memory from store like Dixons, but if you do want a RAM update then you cane go to a O2 Store and they will sell you 32 MB Ram update so that you have 64 MB for £30 or so. this is quite good :lol:
if you need any more information email at [email protected]
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I contacted PPCTECH in the states and got this trply from their Tech Support;
Hi Angus,
The XDA is one of the most difficult units we upgrade. It is surface mount
and not user installable.
I would suggest going through expansys.com.
Best Regards,
Leonard
So it looks like we will have to wait until expansys get their act together
My phone has now been at Expansys for, um, just coming up to 3 weeks. And the parts still haven't arrived. I made the order in January, and waited several weeks before they sent me the details of what to do, and now I've done it I had expected them to have the parts in already.
Just a point to note. The maximum RAM an XDA will accept is 64Mb. If you get the 128Mb upgrade, 64MB will be allocated to RAM, the remaining 64Mb will be used as a virtual storage card - however, it will still be wiped after a hard reset / flat battery.
Best not let the battery go flat then!!!!
I am still tempted to wait for the 128Mb rather that the 64Mb. Unless the price of 512Mb SD cards comes down a bit. :lol:
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You can buy extra memory from store like Dixons, but if you do want a RAM update then you cane go to a O2 Store and they will sell you 32 MB Ram update so that you have 64 MB for £30 or so. this is quite good :lol:
if you need any more information email at [email protected]
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This is not the same as a RAM upgrade.
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Hello! I haven't yet bought an XDA for myself, but I have been researching my purchase for months - thank you very much to the people who run this forum, and to the people that have posted so much useful info...
I have also already downloaded heaps and heaps of software to try - I am a software-nut and already have hundreds of apps and games, over 200Mb so far - but no XDA to try them yet!
I already have a nice Panasonic 256Mb SD-Card for my new XDA, but... I have realized that I can't afford a 2nd-Hand 64Mb XDA this month from eBay, although I can afford a 32Mb from eBay. I don't want to wait another month, the waiting is driving me crazy! (I left my old PDA on a train, and my life is falling apart without one!)
So my question is - Will a 32Mb XDA be enough, combined with my 256Mb SD-Card? I know that some apps won't run properly from the card, and I'm afraid that 32Mb won't be enough... On the other hand, I've read that it's mostly system programs that need to be run from the RAM, and they're mostly quite small... But I don't want to get a 32Mb XDA and then find I need to keep shifting apps from the Card to RAM and back again just to get everything running... What's your experience, and your advice?
Thanks,
Suzie
I have the 32MB with kitchen 4.00.05Rom packed full of the free programs.
And yes you have to watch your mem use all the time and I keep a shortcut to a soft-reset program handy.
All my apps are in the sd card and so are the avantgo files.
The only things taking up storage is the PIM data and about 1.3MB of excel files which I need to sync
leaving about 20MB free.
This works very well for me and I do multitask a lot of programs.
Hope this helps.
Hi;
I have the Tmobile version with 32mb and a 256sd card and with some tweaks.
I did upgrade to wm2003
Most of the 32ram is used by my Pim
All apps and data are stored backed up on my sdcard and pc
so a restore or glitch is quickly resolved
It works like a gem
Good luck
frederik
I have a 32 MB unit (the 64 MB unit broke at some point). It works fine for me, but then I'm not software freak. I bought "Spb GPRS monitor" from SPB Software and "Agenda Fusion" from Developer One, and that's about all I use, apart from the programs installed on my theft-protected 4.00.11 ROM (I ran 4.00.05 until yesterday...).
If you're that much a software geek, why not get a 32 MB one and have it doctored to 128 MB? Gets you 64 MB main RAM, and an extra 64 MB ultra-fast virtual storage card. Links should be somewhere on this forum, and if memory serves me right it wasn't too expensive.
(And have someone lined up to buy it when the XDA II hits the stores ofcourse.)
I have a 32mb qtek, and would like to upgrade it to 64mb. Of course you can have extra storage with SD cards, but some functionalities don't work on SD card, because when the device is off, it sometimes need 2 or 3 seconds after power on for the card to be recognize. So if you place ring tones or pictures of callers (to use with Caller2picture i.e), they won't be displayed since they try to load picture/ringtone immediately at power on in case of incoming call.
Regards.
Most people do well with the 32MB version, unless they're geeks. I'm one of those geeks, and really like my 64MB, but did survive with 32 for a while. Unless you plan to load a lot of stuff internally, you'll do fine with 32.
Has anyone tried the 4gb minisd on the Wizard, yet? I'm thinking about gettin 1 but I'm don't know if the Wizard/tmo mda will support it or see the entire 4gb.
I found this while looking for a 4gb sd to buy, and now i will just stick with the 2gb i have in fear of this same thing happening after i buy one for my 8125
i knowits not a Wizard, but still...
http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=584&forum=8&post_id=4043
It is a scam. Read the feedback. These are hacked 2GB and smaller cards that have been formatted to be 4GB, but that greatly shortens their shelf life, and in most cases they'll die within a few months, if they last that long.
How do you hack something so freakin small?
I'm not positive, but I think it says in the manual (8125) that it will only recognize up to 2GB ... Probably will change with later updates...just as the earlier PCz would only recognize so much RAM and HDD space until their CMOS was updated.
It may be a hardware limit. I'm from the DRAM side of things, so I'm not exactly certain how flash is addressed, but I do know that with DRAM, most computers are limited by the physical number of address drivers that are built into the chipset. Just looking at a Mini-SD, I'd guess that it's a serial device, so maybe it's just a matter of a firmware upgrade to change the bit size of the address data - or maybe it's something completely different and I have no idea what I'm talking about (it wouldn't be the first time!)
-d-
I've never heard of a 4GB miniSD, before this post. (I have seen 4GB SD cards advertised, could there be a confusion with that?)
If there are 4GB miniSD cards available, could someone post a link to them?
Here is a link :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270025489570
much more expensive than 2 2GB cards though ... I'll need to wait a little bit to get a cheaper one for my (future) Wizard (I'm waiting for the one I've just bought on ebay )
beware!!! their are fake sd cards on ebay!!! Usually the cheap ones are the fake ones! :evil:
They are also on Amazon.com for $146. They claim that they have them in stock and others have mentioned that the picture of the card has been edited--the number 4 that is. I am somewhat tempted to try it if Amazon will back me.
here is a story of a ripp-off on ebay : http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/mall/76525-4gb-minisd-card.html
4g miniSD that works
I have purchased a 4G miniSD from http://www.emartbuy.co.uk/index.php.
It works. There is a small problem with access time, i.e. it takes longer to write to and access the card than the 2G did, but apart from that there are no issues.
All I did was use a card reader and copy everything from the 2G card to the 4G card, put it in the device and away it went, like nothing had changed. Except now there is twice the storage. YAY. The card is brandless and is probably a reflashed card, but I don't care because it works for me.
I have an Imate KJAM.
I have puchased on from Moby memory,
http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=miniSD_4096mb_MOBY_002
Seems to work OK in my Xda MiniS, and IQ
Cheers
LB
Other than size and price, is there any big difference in the two? Also, which would you suggest? Thanks for your input
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no as far as I'm concerned they are the exact same, other than hd capacity. As for size...its the exact same too. I am loving my 32 gb one. Its my first tablet but I have played around with other peoples ipads and playbooks to know what I lik. The laser eye remote is amazing for playing tricks on unsuspecting friends at their own homes by turning off they re tvs.
The 16GB is allready filled with around 8GB when you buy it. (And you can't remove it)
So you have 8GB free to store music, pics, movies, game-data,....
And that's just not enough for me. Kinda dissapointed in that.
I got the 32Gb and have since bought an extra 32Gb card for it.
With hindsight, though, I think the 16Gb would be enough, with the extra 32Gb card for around £22 (from 7-day shop on Amazon).
Worth investing in a 50Gb dropbox account for around £6 per month, so you can store music and pictures in the cloud, bringing them down when needed. Lots of options space-wise, really.
Using the 16 here and there's still more space than I need. Came with a 16 gig SD card and that's just sitting around doing nothing. This may interest some: I installed box.net on the tab as well and received a message congratulating me. Apparently my storage was upped to 50gig while I wasn't looking. Not sure what the criteria is but you might want to look into it if you're likely to need the free storage.
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greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
Sent from my Atrix 4G running CM9.
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I cannot say whether or not it is worth it, because I have no experience with any other Android tablets besides the Nook, but I can confirm according to its website that is does have half the ram as well as half the storage. 8 GB storage and 512k ram.
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greetings, i am a noob *sorry newb*! so go ahead and scream at me if you wish (that video had me rotfl), i bet you can't say anything to me that i haven't heard allready from people in Everquest, World of Warcraft, and League of Legends.
A friend introduced me to Xda when I was consitering buying a nook and he explained the concept of rooting.
Anyway, my question revolves around the half the ram on the new nook tablet. Assuming that there is no problems with rooting it, how much will half the ram effect the system?
I thought seeing the $50 price slash was a godsend, 8gig of storage i can live without, besides, its upgradeable if i really need it, but half the ram? whats the point of sticking on a faster processer if your gonna gut the ram?
can anyone give me an opinon as to if this is worth the price slash? or is $50 worth the extra ram?
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You may have noticed in the video that this forum is stricter than others. It's mainly to keep things from getting repeated and to save people time, though, and it works nicely that way. Developing is hard work. BTW, no one's head is gonna explode about this, but questions like this are probably best off in the Q&A section.
So, to answer your question, the RAM is halved, the storage is more readily accessible but also halved... is it worth the $50 dollars you save? Sure! It has the same specs and price of the Kindle fire, but with SD storage as well, and the Fire works just fine with 512 mb of RAM.
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its not half the RAM... its half the Storage. Which unless you are going to do some advanced partitioning you probably won't get much use out of anyway.
You pretty much have to get an external micro-SD card for these anyway as B&N only makes 1GB of the internal storage easily available.
Short answer... yeah its pretty much worth it. You can find 32gb cards online For $35 so you won't be missing much.
Sent from my Atrix 4G running CM9.
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No the RAM is indeed halved. All of the mainstream tech sites are reporting this, it's not a rumor.
As for partitioning, Nook Tabs are veeery picky about partition schemes,nso that's kinda dangerous. But the current alpha of CM7 gets you better access to the storage, and future releases are planned to allow full access.
my appolgies. tis a problem i usualy have figuring out which forum to post in, this seemed like the likely canidate since there were allready so many posts about the nook tablet 8gb. I will try to keep in mind that this is for tech questions only.
Thank-you very much for the feedback.
For $50 twice the ram and more storage (at least when you put CM7 on it). it seems easily worth it.
My opinion - definitely not worth it.
I got CM7 running on it, and I can see just how important it is.
You won't be running BN's ROM forever, and when you switch to CM7 (with CM9 coming soon, it seems), you really gonna wish you had that RAM, trust me.
I bought a NT last week on Ebay from B&N for $199. Not sure if they are still on sale, but you might check.
If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
Personally I'd shell out the extra few bucks for the RAM as well. If it were just the storage being reduced, I'd go with it, but the RAM is too important, imo.
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If it was a 1GB RAM / 8 GB storage deal, I'd have said the Kindle Fire had some real competition.
As it is, I'd definitely go for the 16 GB version. Not because of the extra storage, but those extra 512 MB in RAM are going to make a difference down the road. What was B&N thinking? Their real advantage over the Fire (RAM) is now gone!
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They're thinking that many consumers don't seem to know or care about the RAM (or other advantages of the Nook hardware), they just look at the price tag and $199 for the Fire beats $249. I hope it helps, though they've got a mountain to climb to overcome the Amazon ecosystem and Appstore.
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
If only I'd known this 2 days ago when I bought an 8GB version while being in the USA... Figured the 8GB less flash wasn't a big deal if you're using an SD card anyway, and not knowing about the RAM I "saved" some bucks. Now I'm back in Belgium with an 8GB Nook, with half the RAM too, and at the moment unable to run CM... Great
Anyway, I hope someone can get it to root and/or run CM soon!
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rootability (at least currently) also looks questionable
I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
They have figured out how to boot off an SD card for the 8G, now they are moving that over to the rooting SD versions and the recovery versions.
It will take a little bit of time but I think we will see a lot of progress in this next week.
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I certainly don't know the NT well, but I just helped my father in law get a 8GB tablet configured for its basic functionality. I'd like to be able to set it up to run non-BN sanctioned android apps, and from what I have found there is currently no known way to put go launcher or something similar in place that will allow it to be used for general android apps. This is a huge drawback, IMO. Hopefully in a reasonable time there will be some workarounds, but from the searches I have done, this is not currently doable. If anyone knows otherwise, please let me know.
My father-in-law didn't want to put up the extra 50 bucks and I didn't realize at the time that there was much difference other than the extra storage. I had just assumed that with a 32GB SD card that it would be more than enough memory, but it seems there are other issues since it uses the new 1.4.2 OS too. It looks like B&N is deadset to make sure users can't use it for anything other than their apps. I'm thinking that he should just return the 8GB NT and go for the 16GB version instead.
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Lychii said:
With half the RAM and half the storage, NT loses most of it's advantages over Kindle Fire. The only advantage left is the microsd slot.
If I had to pick between 8GB NT and Kindle Fire, I'd take the fire because it offers more 'out of the box' content.
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I actually agree very much with this. The Kindle Fire's also ahead in terms of custom ROMs since it's not locked up. I chose the Nook Tablet (16 GB version) because I could buy it from my school bookstore and also use it with textbooks from my school.
If you have to choose between 8GB Nook Tab and 16GB Nook Tab, go with the 16 GB one. But if you're choosing between an 8GB Nook Tab and a Kindle Fire, I'd go with the Fire.
RAM use vs storage??
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I totally stand corrected. I only saw the storage was being halved... yeah if the RAM is indeed halved then $50 is not a good enough discount for both of those hits.
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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What is the issue with ram vs storage? Sorry for such a newb question (I am a brand new B), but I don't know what the ram is dedicated for. Is it for OS only?
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Okay, this is a common misconception about computer storage vs. memory. They're not really the same thing, although the words used to describe them are very similar.
RAM/Memory = How much your computer can keep loaded up temporarily. Think of it as how much someone could be thinking about at once - RAM is important for a computer or device to be able to multi-task.
Storage/Disk space = How much information a computer can recall. Think of it as how much someone could remember.
Now, storage allows you to have more files on your device, but RAM allows your device to be more powerful and run more applications at once.
Stuck on the fence between the two options. Storage space isn't as compelling to me as I already have an SD card for expanded storage.
What's everyone's thoughts? Worth the extra cost for 33% more RAM?
Save your $
with the price drops at best buy it was only 30 dollars difference so I opted to return the 128gb model and get the 256.
The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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The biggest issue on an external memory is: to slow, not all things can moved on the SD Card. Internal less memory let lost the fun of the tablet. Thats my experience of the last years. About this one I move to the 256G part
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you need to buy cards marked U3, not U1 that guarantees minimum 30MB/s(240mbps) write speed. That's what I buy for shooting 4k 60ps drone footage which tops 120mbps. They are still not as fast as internal storage, but for movies and other data files they are great.
The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
abso-smurfly worth the cost if you do heavy video or into multitasking and using DEX. if you do lite email and occasional gaming, its not worth it. but im a power user and the extra 100 dollars was pocket change for me to gain that extra ram.
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The card is only the half way. You can used the fastest card of the World, if the interface to the card id slow. The tranferrate to and from the SDCard ist one of the negative point of the galaxy tab S7 in the technical reviews (Could be better for this device)
You can compare this with a SSD on a SATA2 .The SSD could be faster , but the tx/rx rate from the hardware is not faster and brake the performance
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well running benchmark U1 vs U3 I'm getting 90/70MBs(u3) vs 70/40MBs(u1). Which is close to the quoted max rate on the card. Now that's nothing compared to internal storage which I'm guessing is true SSD which tests out at nearly 1GBs, which definitely makes the extra 128gb + 2 GB of RAM a great deal for 30 dollars.
Still the U3 card is a solid performance boost.
Thanks everyone for the input, appreciate it.
Considering the price difference isn't that much, I decided to go big.
One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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One thing I'm a bit bummed about is that the 256GB model only has one color option - I realize it's just cosmetic but I would have liked the mystic silver option. I'm just limited to the black option.
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Hm, what area of the world are you ordering from? Here in the US, the 256 GB model is available in silver. I have one, and it's also showing as available in Samsung's store.
In Germany the 256G version are in black, silver and bronze available
After a week, I'm glad I went with the upgrade. Ended up paying 700 even for the 7+ and got 50$ GC on the side and the speed of the internal storage is amazing. Add to that the extra RAM. I like Black
If you're asking about RAM - don't worry. 6 GB is plenty on the tablet. I was worried at first too but after having 6 tabs open on Chrome, YouTube vanced in picture-in-picture mode, and Microsoft Word open - there were no delays or lag. Ymmv, but I don't have any issues.
That being said, if the difference in price is about 30-50$ I'd consider it. The added RAM makes it more future proof and if you don't need a MicroSD card with the added base storage, then you come out on top since the external storage just isn't as fast.