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Hi guys/girls
Have a XDA which has a very strange problem, I have signal, can send and take texts (Vodafone and Orange networks tested) but can not take or make a call, sometimes the phone will ring and then after about 5 sec's it will cut off and I will have missed call, I have tried to take the call but it say unable to take the call (have not yet got it to call out), now the Orange sim I use has GPRS and I get the little G up for about 2 sec's then it's gone again, so anyone had this problem before and can point me in the right place to get this fixed.
Also I got the phone like this so I know no histroy.
Info on phone
Rom 3.17
Radio 4.21
I'm guessing this is a hardware problem so any link's or pic's of the radio side of the XDA might help me to see if something has come loose or might need resoldering.
Many thanks
I too have a simlar problem
The XDA I have came with the Special Edition Rom v1.2 on it
I put in a vodaphone sim I know works and it allowed me to dial out - only to cut off as soon as it seemed to make a connection. So I tried to diel to it to get a message about a system error.
I tried an O2 new pay as you go sim and had the problem of the G2 symbol appearing and disappearing on me.
Anyone out there got any clues ?
Owlfandbg, this sounds to me like a blocked phone, I have been sold 2 phones in the past that did the same and found out they had been subject to insurance claims and blocked from all networks.
any ideas how I find out if the phone is blocked
and is there anything I can dan do about it?
If your radio stack is before 4.21 you can use xda manipulator to "manipulate" the imei which will then give you network access. I must qualify this by stating that interfering with the imei in the UK renders you liable to 5 years in jail plus a huge fine if you get caught.
I wanted to know if anyone is experiencing similar issues.
I have a Hermes 100 O2 with a recently updated 1.34 Cingular ROM.
I also live in an EDGE area that borders a UMTS area.
What I've noticed is that whenever I transition from one area to the next (like in the car) I have had everything from lost calls, to bluetooth functionality dropping, to having the phone lock up and having to do a soft reset to get function restored.
Once I'm inside the area, the phone acts normal. It's just ANY transistion from UMTS to EDGE or visa versa is when I get this behavior.
I was on the Dopod 1.23 ROM previously and experienced none of this.
Anyone with ideas or similar experiences?
i downgraded to v1.31. on v1.34, when i use file explorer to look at files in storage card, it also freeze/lockup.
i believe v1.31 is more stable. also it' aku 2.6!
Interesting thought.
I know Sleuth255 is running 1.31. Maybe that's why.
I may go that way.
I am daily transitioning from EDGE to UMTS usingn 8525 ROM 1.34 and no problems
Are you in iddle mode or dedicated mode?
Are making a voice call or data ?
For voice it should work both ways unless the network parameters were not optimized in your area
For data it will work only from 3G to 2G with a slight interuption
if you are on EDGE and transitioning into UMTS it will not work. you will stay on EDGE though and no interuption
eeter said:
Are you in iddle mode or dedicated mode?
Are making a voice call or data ?
For voice it should work both ways unless the network parameters were not optimized in your area
For data it will work only from 3G to 2G with a slight interuption
if you are on EDGE and transitioning into UMTS it will not work. you will stay on EDGE though and no interruption
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I was only referring to voice. Once per week I make a trip that starts in an Edge zone, enter a small 3G Zone, exit that zone back to Edge for about 15 miles then enter a 3G zone at the end of the trip.
The main thing I have noticed is that whatever zone I am in when I make the call, the phone usually works until the call is over. Then I have had everything from bluetooth drops to signal failure, once the entire phone locked up.
All of those scenarios result in me having to soft reset the phone.
On one occasion, I received a call while in the small 3G zone and upon leaving the zone, the phone dropped the call. In fact the person called me back 3 times and each call was dropped after about 2 minutes.
I'm not sure what to think at this point.
The fact that 3G Zone 1 is King of Prussia PA (Cingular PA headquarters) and the 2nd 3G zone is Philadelphia PA
has me thinking, they may still be trying out different things as these areas are 3G aware but not updated on the Cingular coverage map yet.
I had much better consistency on the Dopod 1.23 ROM. It never missed a call or dropped transitioning from one zone type to another.
Why don't you just set the phone to stay on the EDGE network and not switch to 3G? This should solve your problems. I do this often, though not for the reasons you discussed but to save battery life! I can't even get a full 12 hours on 3G these days in NYC!
CJNYC said:
Why don't you just set the phone to stay on the EDGE network and not switch to 3G? This should solve your problems. I do this often, though not for the reasons you discussed but to save battery life! I can't even get a full 12 hours on 3G these days in NYC!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one with that problem. I got a full 7 hours this AM. I was using LogMeIn for 4 of them, but I was really surprised at how fast the battery drain was.
1. All 3G software devices including Hermes are still buggy and new releases are still coming. CW is focusing oh the LG CU500 for the launch with Video Share. service
2. The Cingular 3G network is going an optimization campaign which might last until January. Ericsson and Lucent patches to remedy some major issues are scheduled for the end of the year. The GSM/EDGE R99/HS two-way handover is not yet optimum.
CJNYC said:
Why don't you just set the phone to stay on the EDGE network and not switch to 3G? This should solve your problems. I do this often, though not for the reasons you discussed but to save battery life! I can't even get a full 12 hours on 3G these days in NYC!
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Good Idea.
I guess the fact that it seemed to work better on an asian ROM than Cingular's own ticked me off a bit.
The clear thought is to force EDGE for the time being and see what develops with 3G around here in the near future.
I also saw this, especially the call dropping and then each following call also dropping - all this when I often had excellent coverage. I haven't tried Cingular's ROM though.
EDIT: I tried the Cingular ROM and after about 15 mins (plus the amount of time to download the HTC ROM again) I am reloading HTC's 1.18 TyTN ROM. For some reason, my phone wouldn't stay connected to the network longer than about 30 seconds, then it would drop the connection and stay disconnected for minutes - sometimes I had to reboot to get my network back!
I hope HTC releases an update soon, and I hope Cingular gets their **** together and fixes transitioning between GSM and UTMS.
richy240 said:
I also saw this, especially the call dropping and then each following call also dropping - all this when I often had excellent coverage. I haven't tried Cingular's ROM though.
EDIT: I tried the Cingular ROM and after about 15 mins (plus the amount of time to download the HTC ROM again) I am reloading HTC's 1.18 TyTN ROM. For some reason, my phone wouldn't stay connected to the network longer than about 30 seconds, then it would drop the connection and stay disconnected for minutes - sometimes I had to reboot to get my network back!
I hope HTC releases an update soon, and I hope Cingular gets their **** together and fixes transitioning between GSM and UTMS.
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Were you in a 3G area when you tried the Cingular ROM?
l3G3ND said:
Were you in a 3G area when you tried the Cingular ROM?
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Yes, but I tried it in both GSM and UTMS ("Auto") modes.
Cingular ROM downgrade error
Good morning, i have a Vodafone PDA1605 (TyTN etc.) I've updated the ROM with new Cingular version available on this site (1.34.502, bootloader 1.06), now I need to downgrade to older version with same CID (1.30.502, bootloader 1.04) but I receive an ERROR "Wrong Vendor ID" every time i retry to flash the ROM (following the procedure... restarting the update without disconnecting the PDA).
I've also tryed to put other ROM with bootloader 1.06 (new Vodafone FRA... i will upload when tested) but I receive the Error: "Wrong Model.."
Could someone help me?
Emanuele
emsparac said:
Good morning, i have a Vodafone PDA1605 (TyTN etc.) I've updated the ROM with new Cingular version available on this site (1.34.502, bootloader 1.06), now I need to downgrade to older version with same CID (1.30.502, bootloader 1.04) but I receive an ERROR "Wrong Vendor ID" every time i retry to flash the ROM (following the procedure... restarting the update without disconnecting the PDA).
I've also tryed to put other ROM with bootloader 1.06 (new Vodafone FRA... i will upload when tested) but I receive the Error: "Wrong Model.."
Could someone help me?
Emanuele
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To get around this issue, it seems like the consensus is to install the original ROM that came with your phone. Hopefully that will put your bootloader back at 1.04. (Your Vendor CID must match exactly when doing anything with 1.06)
Once you get it back to your original ROM, you should then be able to move up.
all of this is assuming your original ROM was a 1.04 BL
Hope this helps.
Is there an easy way to switch from GPRS to UMTS?
l3G3ND, I have the same problem as you but I don't have the Cingular Rom. I have the original Rom (including original radio Rom) that came on the HTC Tytn and I get same issue as you. Only difference that I don't have to soft reset.. I just have to turn the phone radio off and back on again in Comm Manager.
Just letting you know so you can see that perhaps it's not the Cingular Rom??
Hi, I've had my XDA wallaby for about 4 years now, no problems ever until tonight.
It's got the Rom 1.2 upgrade and I usually run a Tesco's O2 PAYG sim with never a problem.
I've got an Orange card that I wanted to use - this seems to have caused the problem.
I was looking through the forum to try to get the Orange sim to work and have, I think, re-set wrongly the GSM band and the autoconfiguration.
So now whichever of the 3 GSM bands I set my XDA won't recognise either the Tesco 02 Sim or the orange sim HELP??
Also, I've looked in the auto config list and neither appear, again HELP!!
Can anyone suggest the correct settings for tesco o2 since I'm stuck HELP
It's fixed itself! Weird. Read on...
So there I was, staring glumly at my number one piece of kit now w/o a telephone then all of a sudden, up comes the signal bars and the 'G' !!!
About 5 minutes after my last post.
So I guess the message here is:
1. leave well alone
2. write down EVERYTHING before you play, and
3. The XDA knows more about itself that me the user does, since it seems like 'it' fixed itself.
So back to the original issue that I got so badly wrong.
Q: Can I use an orange PAYG sim in this phone w/o killing it again?
And now it's dropped the connection again !!!
I know this must be my meddling but can anyone tell me the correct
autoconfig and band settings for O2 Tescos.
I've used this network as PAYG on my phone for about 2 years with no problems until yesterday ???
Or other than those 2 settings can any other settings influence connection, bearing in mind it used to work perfectly, and did for a few minutes last night???
status update - problem solved
I think I found out the problem.
When in the phone module, select:
Tools > Options > Network
Network selection needed to be Automatic but for some reason, probably my medelling it was set to manual and was taking about 5-10 minutes to find the connection.
Now, as auto it connects in seconds and then all is well.
The post might help others in the future.
rgds
Hi folks, can anyone please help me with this problem?
My brother in law has asked me to look at his S740. He has tried several o2 SIM cards (UK) in this phone but always gets told there is no signal.
Not only that, but there is a symbol where the strength meter should be that isn't documented in the user guide.
He has also tried my o2 (3G) sim and a Vodafone sim, both UK.
Any advice gratefully recieved. We have tried several hard resets also.
Thanks
This means it's looking for signal. My guess: Still SIM-locked?
.-ombre-.
Jerry-S said:
Hi folks, can anyone please help me with this problem?
My brother in law has asked me to look at his S740. He has tried several o2 SIM cards (UK) in this phone but always gets told there is no signal.
Not only that, but there is a symbol where the strength meter should be that isn't documented in the user guide.
He has also tried my o2 (3G) sim and a Vodafone sim, both UK.
Any advice gratefully recieved. We have tried several hard resets also.
Thanks
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Not sure if it's SIM locked as there is a menu to select which carrier to use.
It reads the SIM correctly and sets it all up for o2, but just doesnt get any signal.
Does anyone know where the GSM antenna is on these? Maybe its a bad connection.
UPDATE:
I've had a mail back from HTC that recommends I send it in for repair, lol.
Now do I take it they are robbing buggers or do I take it that the icon is an indicator of a hardware fault??
Hmmmm, dilemma. lol
Are there any more suggestions on what it may be?
Has anyone successfully taken one of these apart?
it may be because of a hardware error...try to connect to a wifi network...if it impossible to find a wifi network then it is due to a harware problem.Most likely because the FR coaxial cable is out of its possision...download the service manual and see how to fix it.
sasiskas said:
it may be because of a hardware error...try to connect to a wifi network...if it impossible to find a wifi network then it is due to a harware problem.Most likely because the FR coaxial cable is out of its possision...download the service manual and see how to fix it.
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Hi sasiskas, it conects fine to my wireless network at home. I take it from your response that the cable serves a double purpose.
I downloaded the service manual so I could take a look, but only got as far as removing the 4 screws at the back. lol, I couldn't figure out how to get it off, lol
I'm still stuck at the assumption that it is indeed SIM locked, and so will try to find a suitable card to try out.
Jerry-S said:
Hi sasiskas, it conects fine to my wireless network at home. I take it from your response that the cable serves a double purpose.
I downloaded the service manual so I could take a look, but only got as far as removing the 4 screws at the back. lol, I couldn't figure out how to get it off, lol
I'm still stuck at the assumption that it is indeed SIM locked, and so will try to find a suitable card to try out.
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Try contacting with your phone's provider (shop,e-bay seller whoever it is) and ask him details about the sim.Good luck.
hey
im getting the same issue on my girlfriends rose
the hardspl is out now and i have tried to flash the rom to see if this helps but nothing as of yet, it could be the radio rom its self as i have a touch pro and when i first got it it was the same till i flashed a cooked rom onto it, its now working fine for me,
if i find out how to fix this i will leave ya a post
stone81 said:
hey
im getting the same issue on my girlfriends rose
the hardspl is out now and i have tried to flash the rom to see if this helps but nothing as of yet, it could be the radio rom its self as i have a touch pro and when i first got it it was the same till i flashed a cooked rom onto it, its now working fine for me,
if i find out how to fix this i will leave ya a post
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Thanks. I have tried the same but just keep getting a vender ID, (lol spelling), error.
I would appreciate any input whether you have success or not, it just may spark an idea off.
I cant get in touch with any sales or provider as it was gifted to my bro in law. He's not that bothered about it but would like to have it working if he can.
Thanks folks.
Hey! I think I know the solution to your problem...I had exactly the same problem when I hardReseted my phone.
Go to "Start-settings-Phone-Band Select"
and then select
1.Network type : Auto
2.Band Type : "Euro" if you live in Europe, "US" if you live in USA , or "Japan" if you live in Japan.
Good luck...Let us know if it worked!
sasiskas said:
Hey! I think I know the solution to your problem...I had exactly the same problem when I hardReseted my phone.
Go to "Start-settings-Phone-Band Select"
and then select
1.Network type : Auto
2.Band Type : "Euro" if you live in Europe, "US" if you live in USA , or "Japan" if you live in Japan.
Good luck...Let us know if it worked!
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Yes that is a good suggestion because the phone will display that icon if it can't find a *usable* network, be it that the SIM doesn't allow it or if the bands don't match the selection on the phone or the bands are not usable by the phone hardware etc.
I would suggest downloading & running HTC Field Test (fieldtest.exe) with & without a SIM installed, with each network & band setting & see if it shows any towers or signal. (Normally you want Auto for both but you may not have that option or you might prefer to set to a KNOWN working band to conserve battery & minimize searching) If should show something even without SIM or with SIM lock because it's supposed to support emergency calls either way. If it shows signals with SIM but you still have same no service icon then it's likely SIM locked (although the phone should alert you to that fact) so odds are the phone hardware, rom or settings do not support whatever signals are available to you. (Btw if field test shows N/A for all the values you need to app unlock your phone)
Hope that helps.
Bill
can you share a link with HTC Field Test?Thnx
Search is your friend.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393781
Hey all I'm having a very similar problem.
Had my HTC for some months now but in the past few days I've found that my network signal is becoming very unpredictable.
I'm also on O2 and I used to have a pretty contstant H (I presume HSDPA) connection.
Howeever im finding now the phone with go from H to 3G to GPRS to E to no signal in the course of 5 mines and round and round again!
Its very annoying as it means I cant make / received calls or texts fluently and even cut me off on a phone call too.
However usually on phone calls it will keep me connected ok till I hang up and then go to no signal.
I've checked the wireless and it is picking up networks..
Any other suggestions? I will try the field test tomorrow...
PS I know its not the network as my work blackberry is O2 and is not having this issue..
Cheers in advance!
Well, just to close my input on this thread.
I tried various ROM's available from this site and none worked.
I did try the band selection settings but still a no go.
I did have limited success but overall, nothing. The phone has now gone back to the person who asked me to look into it and to my knowledge he is going to sell it to one of these phone reclaim companies.
I did check and one place, I think through the post office, is offering £80 ish so not bad I suppose.
Anyway, thank you to all who have made suggestions and wotnot. Personally I'm still happy with an old Nokia 6300 and my Wizard (Mini-S)
Thanks folks.
i notice that my phone have problem of losing connections (phone signal) quite often which causes the phone cant make or receive call. i usually go outstations and everytime when i travel i have this problem. i thought it was the problem from the android 1.6 but after updating to android 2.1 through the SE website the problem is still there. recently i end up with the conclusion that my phone have problem with GSM signal, whenever i go to outstation where there is no 3g/WCDMA in the area but suppose to have the GSM signal i got this problem. please bear in mind that i have change and tried the setting for WCDMA ONLY,GSM ONLY & WCDMA/GSM PREFERED but the problem still persist, and please bear in mind i have tested with my other phone and it works fine at those places. please advise if this is the problem of the phone itself or just the setting of my phone. Tq
Exactly same case here,losing signal without no reason.Only one time I saw all 4 bars.Other phones works just fine.OS updated to 2.1,problem remains same,and that also affects to battery duration.