Greetings all:
I have just rec'd an 8525, unlocked and cutom ROM'd.
I am interested in the following: is there a cab file or change I can make in order to make the touchscreen phone dial numbers bigger. I have rather large fingers and dialing with the screen is somewhat difficult. I had read that the Tmo MDA had a hack for the UI making this poss., but I am clueless how to do this if at all poss. for this phone.
Could anyone lend any assistance with this req. as it is one of the only things I am currently not liking about the device. Changing this would take away some operating stress. My thanks in advance for any directions.
Cheers
do a search for dialer skins, or dial pads, and you are going to find some with large numbers on it..
Ah, my thanks, I did as you suggested and I found exactly what I questioned about.
Cheers
u could always do some finger excerises with the lady friend as your assistant if u wanna turn those sausage fingers into trim fingers... lol sorry i had to
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Forgot to ask., what skin is the biggest dialing screen going? Certainly want to maximize my landscape so I dont have to install 40 of them.... well you get the idea.
Would anyone mind pointing me in the right direction, or link to the largest dialing screen out there.
My thanks in advance.
Alternatively rather than looking for skins why don't you give Smart Dialer 2 a try. You can find a free trial version at www.pocketpc.myluckypda.com.
This program apart from giving you large buttons for dialing also supports smartdialing, sending SMS to any of your contacts directly from the dialer and what I liked most the possibility to add new contacts directly from the dialer.
The downside is that it increases your booting time by 8 seconds and consumes about 1.3 MB of RAM.
Another very good large button dialer is Imaginet Fingerclix. This does not consume any RAM as it does not stay resident all the time and is only called up when you require it. The downside is that it may be a bit sluggish for your taste.
Regards
Got, it I will look at both of these. Much appreciated.
does anyone know of a responsive dialer? I am looking for an original looking(bigger buttons would be nice) dialer that doesnt have a delay between pressing and recognition/drawing/tone. The lag time on all the dialers i have used seems excessive. I wonder why, as response to screen presses are quite snappy otherwise.
sorry I am no help here..............I would like to see a dialer that is more responsive too. I imagine it has something to do with how fast the processor can process the little app's requests...........not too fast it appears.
i dont know about wm6, but i'm using wm5 and turning off smartdialing helps A LOT, well not much help if you do use smartdialing...
mthomas said:
does anyone know of a responsive dialer? I am looking for an original looking(bigger buttons would be nice) dialer that doesnt have a delay between pressing and recognition/drawing/tone. The lag time on all the dialers i have used seems excessive. I wonder why, as response to screen presses are quite snappy otherwise.
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I gained some speed by deactivating the sound of the keys when you press them
I did global search on the forum and found this one, so I'll just add comment on this one rather than creating a new thread
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I gained some speed by deactivating the sound of the keys when you press them
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i only got a tiny bit improvement, my cheap nokia 3210 that came with T-mobile pre-paid card was MUCH MUCH MORE responsive!!!
I'm totally frustrated, it took up to 3 seconds to dial 1 number, consider the following:
- in order to improve the performance I need to turn the key sound off, so I have to keep looking at my screen
- pressing a button can fail altogether or can work with delay
- if i don't see the number you pressed immediately on the screen I have 2 options:
-- press again, but this can work OR create DOUBLE PRESSES
-- wait and see if it's just a delay, sometimes i wait only to see that I NEED TO PRESS AGAIN
this is OK when i don't badly need the phone "feature" and all the other bells and whistles distract me from thinking I'm supposed to have a dependable phone in this stupid device.
let me know if there's any smarter way around this and how do you guys deal with this? is iphone much more responsive when it comes to phone?
I think the real problem is that MS really doesn't care. If iphone (my wife has one) could do decent secure exchange I would dump this turkey of a phone and go that route. It is excellent as aphone except for the lack of voice commander and most of the pda functions are great as well. I n fact ifyou eliminate the ability to add a bunch of beta aps that are trying to imitate the user interface of a competing product, and screw up you r phone after a couple of days, what is the advantage of a wm platform?
I did a search on PPCGeeks, XDA, and Google, and couldn't find any app to make the touch screen on the Titan interactive - similar to the way the Voyager touch screen works (quick vibrate when the screen is touched).
Is there any app like this? If not, can someone make one?
Thanks!
You would think HTC being one (if not THEE one) #1 Smartphone manufacture that would have SOMETHING similiar to the iphone or Voyager. The HTC Cube to me is very "amatuer" looking compared to the iphone and Voyager UI. Even microsoft couldn't make anything similiar...hopefully WM7 will blow us away.
I agree that the Cube looks pretty basic (that's why I won't put it on my phone, but I do have the TouchFLO).
But what I'm looking for is for the phone to do a very quick vibrate whenever the screen is touched.
That technology is called Haptics and it is much more than just the phone vibrating. Haptics allows you to physically feel a vibration exactly on the spot of the screen you are touching. Your phone has to have Haptics vibration built into it to use it and there isn't a single HTC phone out there using the said technology.
http://www.immersion.com/corporate/press_room/what_is_haptics.php
worth a shot
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That technology is called Haptics and it is much more than just the phone vibrating. Haptics allows you to physically feel a vibration exactly on the spot of the screen you are touching. Your phone has to have Haptics vibration built into it to use it and there isn't a single HTC phone out there using the said technology.
http://www.immersion.com/corporate/press_room/what_is_haptics.php
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Indeed.
That said, I'm still interested in any app that does simply what whiteblazer01 asked for. I'm always looking over my fingers when I'm trying to dial a phone number. I'd be willing to give a simple touch-response app a shot.
Anyone?
ryanshepherd said:
Indeed.
That said, I'm still interested in any app that does simply what whiteblazer01 asked for. I'm always looking over my fingers when I'm trying to dial a phone number. I'd be willing to give a simple touch-response app a shot.
Anyone?
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I have been looking into this also. Especialy when i use the media player or just the main screen shortcuts.
In the mean time I was able to find a CAB somewhere in this forum that enables vibration feedback when you dial a number. It replaces the tone with vibration. I hope you guys like it. (Sorry I dont have support for it because I am not the original creator of this CAB)
Make sure that once you install the CAB that you soft reset after.
Hope you like it.
That's exactly what it is - Haptics. Thanks for the link. The program [email protected]$ put a link to (thanks!) works on the keypad, but it really doesn't feel like the Haptics system. O well, its still cool though.
I found a link to another thread on this forum for the same thing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1685449
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That's exactly what it is - Haptics. Thanks for the link. The program [email protected]$ put a link to (thanks!) works on the keypad, but it really doesn't feel like the Haptics system. O well, its still cool though.
I found a link to another thread on this forum for the same thing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1685449
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I was thinkin about how we can make the phone vibrate when we tap the screen in any application instead of only the dial pad.
I came up with a theory that might give us some type of haptics feed back. It might not be exactly like haptics but it could make the phone vibrate.
There is a feature in our phone that can enable the phone to play a sound when we tap the screen for any reason. I was thinking why not replace the sound with just vibration like the CAB that changes the sound to vibration on the dialer?
Im not experienced at programming, but I am willing to take a shot into making this possible. Maybe some one can get a hold of a good programmer or some one good at registry tweaks to make this possible.
Just an idea
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You would think HTC being one (if not THEE one) #1 Smartphone manufacture that would have SOMETHING similiar to the iphone or Voyager. The HTC Cube to me is very "amatuer" looking compared to the iphone and Voyager UI. Even microsoft couldn't make anything similiar...hopefully WM7 will blow us away.
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Voyager is hella gay
[email protected]$ said:
I have been looking into this also. Especialy when i use the media player or just the main screen shortcuts.
In the mean time I was able to find a CAB somewhere in this forum that enables vibration feedback when you dial a number. It replaces the tone with vibration. I hope you guys like it. (Sorry I dont have support for it because I am not the original creator of this CAB)
Make sure that once you install the CAB that you soft reset after.
Hope you like it.
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Great Idea [email protected]$, deffinately move forward with it, Ive been using the phonepadvibrate (essentially the same as what you posted) for well over 2 months now and love it. If you could do the same with the normal touch screen it would be amazing.
Yes its not full haptics, but in my opinion it really doesnt need to be. some sort of physical feedback (ie a slight vibration) would be great when working with the touch screen.
[email protected]$ said:
I was thinkin about how we can make the phone vibrate when we tap the screen in any application instead of only the dial pad.
I came up with a theory that might give us some type of haptics feed back. It might not be exactly like haptics but it could make the phone vibrate.
There is a feature in our phone that can enable the phone to play a sound when we tap the screen for any reason. I was thinking why not replace the sound with just vibration like the CAB that changes the sound to vibration on the dialer?
Im not experienced at programming, but I am willing to take a shot into making this possible. Maybe some one can get a hold of a good programmer or some one good at registry tweaks to make this possible.
Just an idea
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Carlos, I definitely agree, I would love to have that whenever the screen vibrated. Although, I don't know who would be willing to do that. I remember when I had the Apache (XV6700), I thought it would be cool if someone could make the LED lights on top into indicator lights for the shift and caps keys - which never happened (I don't know how, otherwise I would do it myself).
In fact, I wonder if someone can make a cab to have the shift and caps buttons make the indicator lights turn on whenever the buttons are pushed, not just when shift lock or caps lock are enabled.
Paul
whiteblazer01 said:
Carlos, I definitely agree, I would love to have that whenever the screen vibrated. Although, I don't know who would be willing to do that. I remember when I had the Apache (XV6700), I thought it would be cool if someone could make the LED lights on top into indicator lights for the shift and caps keys - which never happened (I don't know how, otherwise I would do it myself).
In fact, I wonder if someone can make a cab to have the shift and caps buttons make the indicator lights turn on whenever the buttons are pushed, not just when shift lock or caps lock are enabled.
Paul
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It is very possible. I found other sources and they have some sort of program / prototype that can make this happen but it doesnt work on every tap of the screen.
What I want to do is make mine work on every tap of the screen but have the ability to turn it off and on to save power. Like turning the notification for the sound to play when you tap the screen on and off.
So far I have planned some steps to do it through the registry but since I am not an expert at programming like others are here it might take a while.
But any help is very welcome to complete this project and make it available for all.
As to changing the LED's on your phone. I think no2chem and some other guys found a way to customize your LED settings, but I'm not sure if it will be custom enough to indicate caps or shift. Maybe in the near future.
whiteblazer01 said:
I did a search on PPCGeeks, XDA, and Google, and couldn't find any app to make the touch screen on the Titan interactive - similar to the way the Voyager touch screen works (quick vibrate when the screen is touched).
Is there any app like this? If not, can someone make one?
Thanks!
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this is a oem out there i havent seen Cab for it
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this is a oem out there i havent seen Cab for it
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I am sure you probably have. I have the copy of the program that enables this feature. I believe it is extracted from a phone that has haptic feed back. But it is an executable.
This program is faulty. It doesn't respond on every tap and has performance issues. Other then that there hasn't been another one developed.
I'm trying to find a way to fix the issues of of the one that I found. Maybe by creating a new way to enable haptic feed back like I posted on previews posts, but it might take time to develop because I'm still learning how to mess with WM Reg. and programming.
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I am sure you probably have. I have the copy of the program that enables this feature. I believe it is extracted from a phone that has haptic feed back. But it is an executable.
This program is faulty. It doesn't respond on every tap and has performance issues. Other then that there hasn't been another one developed.
I'm trying to find a way to fix the issues of of the one that I found. Maybe by creating a new way to enable haptic feed back like I posted on previews posts, but it might take time to develop because I'm still learning how to mess with WM Reg. and programming.
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i still havent tried the program out yet i really dont see the use for it
Let me know what you find out Carlos. I would agree with you that it may be better to have the phone vibrate maybe when any button is pushed instead of anytime the screen is tapped (or maybe have the option to choose?), and also have the option to turn it off. Lol, maybe we can call it "Taptics" instead of Haptics.
As for the LED's, I'll check with some of the other guys about what they can do. I do a lot of modding myself with other electronics (cars, motorcycles, game consoles, etc...), but I don't really get into programming all that much (although the logic makes sense to me).
-Paul
Okay, so I noticed the phone does vibrate, however, when using the keypad while in a call, it makes a different tone, and does not vibrate.
Also, is there any update on ways to make all buttons vibrate (and configurable) when pressed? And of course, an option to turn the feature off?
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Okay, so I noticed the phone does vibrate, however, when using the keypad while in a call, it makes a different tone, and does not vibrate.
Also, is there any update on ways to make all buttons vibrate (and configurable) when pressed? And of course, an option to turn the feature off?
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I am not sure for all buttons but there is a CAB to make the phone vibrate when you press the screen. I tried it out and it works, but it's faulty and kills performance.
I'm still working on this project. I haven't had much time to work with it, but if any break through happens then I will post it up.
My new HTC S740 is excellent except for one thing - the keypad backlight goes out after only 15 seconds. Very irritating in the dark.
I've looked for kb_light_timeout in hklm/software/htc/keypad but this does not exist.
I've found keylight timeout and qkeyledtimeout in hkcu/control panel/backlight which looks like the right place but altering values and rebooting makes no difference.
I've also looked in hklm/drivers/builtin/keylight and keypad.
I feel I'm very close. Can anyone help?
Yes Its most annoying as well as fact that only numbers or keys round circular button light seperately. Look forward to someone cracking it. Otherwise an excellent phone.
I agree, this is very annoying.
So theres no fix for this issue? To bad no ACT for this phone. An awesome phone, just wm standard gets so little love it seems.
I did some research today and he're the results:
1. This is far of to be a new issue. First complaints about the keyboard backlight timeout you can find under Qtek models...
2. Apparently, they were just few (2-3?) HTC models supporting a registry entry included in WM hkcu/control panel/backlight/QKeyLedTimeout - Rose definitely doesn't
3. The issue could be a case of WM 6.1 limitation - Rose has in fact three keyboard backlight arrays with separate light managements (soft keys, numeric, QWERTY - try to use them simultaneusly and you will see - their timing is independent on each other) and I've found some extra HTC registry entries concerning power management confirming a bit non-standard settings. Unluckily, nothing useful there for the kb backlights.
Sorry, based on my experiments, I can advice you only one very strange way how to overcome it for now: Limit the display timeout to the same 10 seconds as the keyboard has. At least, first press of any key will become inactive and just light-up both display and keyboard. Until display works, all keys are still active even the keybord backlight is off.
Nevertheless, any opposite finding will be appreciated...
Thank you for your investigation
I have a new s743 and this is the exact problem I came searching for fix for!
Too bad - it really is a sweet phone.
-John
To me this is a winmo thing. I don't understand why this option isn't included from the factory. It is a plain "NO BRAINER"! It's been this way on all my previous devices whether pro or standard. The diff being the pro os has wonderful tweaks and various cabs one can install to set the time out. What we need is to get some tweaking guru to set up something like ACT for standard. Problem is so little love for the standard os. The screens are to small anyway for my taste. I'll just stick to pro, the tweaks are better.
Well, i set the display timeout on my device to 5 seconds. Backlight of the qwerty and numeric keypads went off after 5 seconds.
The softkeys remained lit till 10 seconds was up.