Constantly connected GPRS will eat a lot of battery power? - MDA, XDA, 1010 General

Hi,
I have T-Mobile USA with radio ver. 6.24 and OS 6.00.14. I noticed that GPRS in this version is constantly ON (I have not found a way to selectively turn it off), even when I resume from stand by it'll still show ON. I don't have problem with that since T-Mobile has a flat fee for GPRS the only corncern is that since it's always on it'll consume energy from my batteries when I'm actually not using my phone or I misunderstanding something....
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Re: Constantly connected GPRS will eat a lot of battery powe
artisticcheese said:
... I noticed that GPRS in this version is constantly ON (I have not found a way to selectively turn it off)...
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I hold my red hardware "end" button down for about 3 seconds and GPRS disconnects.
artisticcheese said:
... only corncern is that since it's always on it'll consume energy from my batteries when I'm actually not using my phone or I misunderstanding something
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This has not been my experience. I am connected to GPRS virtually 24/7 for weeks now and have not seen any appreciable difference in battery life. Like GSM itself, I suspect the transmissions required to maintain a connection are quite lenient.
-Max

But holding End button also disconnects phone which I don't want to do

artisticcheese said:
But holding End button also disconnects phone which I don't want to do
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I'm assuming you mean that it turns the phone radio off, as opposed to it hangs up the call you are on.
On my phone, if I'm connected to GPRS, a 2-3 second hold of the end button drops the GPRS connection, but the phone stays on. A subsequent second press of 4-5 seconds then shuts the phone off; But the first press does not. Is yours different?
I am running "hybrid", that is I have a formerly ATTWS phone that I'm now running on T-mobile-- ROM 4.00.11 ENG from the kitchen, "stock" RSU A.20.10 from ATTWS.

I too have noticed very little difference in battery life with GPRS left on. Actually I'd say no difference, though I'm sure it's got to make at least a tiny difference. I wouldn't worry about it.

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Phone 'wakes up' a bit later than I do!

Another problem...
When I go to sleep at night, I turn my mobile phone off. During the night, people send me SMSes, but since the phone is off, it doesn't alert me... naturally! In the morning, when I wake up and turn my phone on, I don't get the messages. A while later (sometimes up to 2 hours later), the SMSes all come in one after the other.
Does anyone know how I can solve this problem? It may be related to the other post I entered regarding the phone being off although the signal shows good reception.
Thanks!
huh
my xda's have always turn'd itself on to tell me when i get sms and such
because you cant turn a pda off
not unless you take out the batt and in the process clear the mem
it's just in standby
not sure why your device dont alart you when you get sms's at night
I think it's the same problem....
You're phone isn't reachable in the moment, so the SMS didn't get delivered.
What ROM version are you using, and wihich Radio VErsion.
Got the same problem here in Germany with too old version after an update all works fine...
HTH
Stefan
I think its better to leave the phone switched while charging at night but in silent mode.
What I don't understand is... why does it take so long after I turn the phone on (like I said, I switch the phone part off at night), for the phone to communicate with the network and start downloading the SMSes received overnight?
To make things weirder, I can make calls right after I turn the phone on, but the SMSes still don't come through till later.
Hmmmm......
DragonBaz said:
What I don't understand is... why does it take so long after I turn the phone on (like I said, I switch the phone part off at night), for the phone to communicate with the network and start downloading the SMSes received overnight?
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Normally the SMS will be send by the network in time intervalls. They will be not delievered as soon as the device will turn on, but after a while. This have performance issues.
So it's normal that you recieve the SMSs later....
Stefan
Stefan, that may be true, but on other phones (like my wife's Nokia), her SMSes come through as soon as she turns the phone on. Mine come on much later... sometimes up to 2 hours later!! That's why I thought it may be something to do with my XDA.
DragonBaz
but the difference between the nokia and the xda if you by when your wife turn her phone on mean that it have been turned off as in nobody being able to call it
and your xda is that you cant turn it off
you only turn of the screen and put the system in sleepMode when you press the top button
but if she turn it off and then on then she reconnect to the whole gsm network but you dont because you never disconnected because when you press the turn off button on your device you dont turn off the gsm device it's still running
and if you got a mail in the middle of the nigh it should do what ever it is that you have set up your device to do when you recieve a sms
play a sound or vibrate or blink or what ever
sometimes i wake up because i get an sms
Rudegar said:
but you dont because you never disconnected because when you press the turn off button on your device you dont turn off the gsm device it's still running
Rudegar, you CAN turn off the phone... you click on the signal icon at the top of the screen and you get another button that says "Turn Phone Off". you click on that, and the phone is off. How else can you get up in a plane if the phone is always on?
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yeah sure you can
use the fligth mode to turn off the gsm
just believed you ment just turning off the
pda
my bad then if you go flight mode at nigh
what if you dont ?
does it work then?
If I go flight mode at night, it stays on, and I get my SMSes as and when they are sent. But I was hoping to find a way around that... it's no use to me to have the phone on at night, if I'm not going to use it... only kills battery. Know what I mean?
well if it's in the cradle in another room it would not eat batts
and you would not be woken by it
but why it would not recieve sms when you turn it on could be a radiostack issue
Rudegar, what does radiostack issue mean?
Also, can upgrading solve this problem you think? and how do I upgrade?
the radiostack is the embedded software for the gsm phone in the xda
you can upgrade it from running the upgrade which is an exe while the xda is in the cradle
but some people have issues with running the upgrade's
and one have to make sure that one run the upgrade ment for ones gsm system as in us == 900/1900 and eu == 900/1800
not sure what it is in asia

psShutXP doesn't shutdown WM5

Did you guys know that? It only switches off the display.
Is there any other alternative in case you want to shutdown the hermes thru software?
Are you sure? I used to use it when I was on WM5 and never had any problems. To be precise, I installed it just to turn the screen off while streaming radio (to conserve battery) but I recall shutting down the device many times.
mfabre said:
Are you sure? I used to use it when I was on WM5 and never had any problems. To be precise, I installed it just to turn the screen off while streaming radio (to conserve battery) but I recall shutting down the device many times.
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yeah, I noticed it when I tapped the shut down button, it just turned off the display, coz I still got a call a lil bit later, lol. I tried it a few times and then noticed that it didnt turn off the phone, just the display.

Battery Problems

I think my phone might be using batter power even when i turn it off! I dont use my phone much im using a stock rom. Ok ive realized lately that if i dont use my phone for like a day and its off I was at 60% battery power when i turned it off then when i went back the next day to turn it on the power button wouldnt turn it on i had to take the battery out and put it back in then press the power button and it came out with only 10% battery power im wondering in anyone else has had this problem? O and its usually in my backpack.
It probably got turned back on in your backpack
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
hope this helps.
rmancl said:
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
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Doesn't flight mode only turn off the radio? No, just as before the phone remains on, but at best in a low power state such as standby.
We can turn our phones off. If I hold the power button down I then get a window:
"Power will be turned off, and you may lose data if you have not saved them. Do you want to continue?"
After powered off, then next time I power it on the phone reboots.
I've got a HTC TyTN (hermes) and i get the same problem: my battery wears off in maximum 3 hours after i fully charge it. all the connections are turned off,except for the phone function. also, while it's charging, no matter if it's charging through the usb or the AC charger, the battery gets very hot. PLEASE can anyone help
(i have the black satin normal rom, with the 1.43.00.00 radio version installed)
axion68 said:
It probably got turned back on in your backpack
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No cause i have it in its case in my back pack and shouldnt it be on then when i take it out?
rmancl said:
unless you put it in flight mode, the phone doesn't actually ever turn off, only the screen. Also in low signal situations the battery will run down much faster.
hope this helps.
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This is a ppc6800 mogul not a 6700 moguls can actually turn off it still does it even if i take the battery out and put it back in.
Sounds like you weakened your battery. Question, do you constantly have your phone plugged into the charger? Same thing happened to me, I used to have my phone plugged in 90% of the day and I noticed that the times that I didn't have it plugged in, the battery life was drastically reduced. Overcharging can weaken a rechargeable battery.
I use to charge it every night then take it off every morning and sometimes since my sis stole my charger id use a motorala on my dad has its output is 5.0v and input is 100-240v is this the right voltage for my mogul?Now i almost never charge it cause its usually off. And im not sure if this has to do anything but my water damage stickers ARE NOT TRIPPED

Very fast battery discharge issue

I charged my S3 last night up to when it said 'unplug the charger' (100%) then I locked it and went to sleep (~2:12 AM)
When I woke up (~7:50 AM) it had like 47%, and its weird because the whole time it was 'locked', Mobile Data was turned off, Wi-Fi on, GPS off...
But I think wi-fi should not be an issue because my iPod Touch which was also 100% charged dropped barely below 95%
So, I think it maybe has to do something with Cellular Signal (signal in my house is very weak) so trying to connect to a tower uses a LOT of energy... so, is there any way to turn off the Cellular component temporarily without turning off the cellphone?
It sounds like a very random thing to do, but it bugs me that in some 6 hours half of the battery got discharged, even if the device was asleep.
zubieta said:
I charged my S3 last night up to when it said 'unplug the charger' (100%) then I locked it and went to sleep (~2:12 AM)
When I woke up (~7:50 AM) it had like 47%, and its weird because the whole time it was 'locked', Mobile Data was turned off, Wi-Fi on, GPS off...
But I think wi-fi should not be an issue because my iPod Touch which was also 100% charged dropped barely below 95%
So, I think it maybe has to do something with Cellular Signal (signal in my house is very weak) so trying to connect to a tower uses a LOT of energy... so, is there any way to turn off the Cellular component temporarily without turning off the cellphone?
It sounds like a very random thing to do, but it bugs me that in some 6 hours half of the battery got discharged, even if the device was asleep.
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Yes, you can turn off the cellular component : just press the power button, a pop up menu apears then select offline mode (the one with the airplane logo) and there you go .... to go online dice the same then choose online mode
Enviado desde mi flamante Samsung Galaxy S3
jezaster said:
Yes, you can turn off the cellular component : just press the power button, a pop up menu apears then select offline mode (the one with the airplane logo) and there you go .... to go online dice the same then choose online mode
Enviado desde mi flamante Samsung Galaxy S3
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Ah clever. Didn't think about Airplane Mode, hope it works
Its not like I need cellphone calls in my house at night, and its a ****ing bunker, signal is very weak there
Thanks awarded!
If signal bars are full then there is a problem in either hardware or software. First update your software or modem to another version if that didnt solved your issue then take ur phn and demand a through inspection
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

WiFi calling issue

I purchased two US998 US Cellular branded phones and am having an issue with WiFi calling on one of them. What happens is that at least once/day the WiFi calling icon in the upper left corner will turn red, which I'm assuming is an error. This also causes the phone to drain its battery very quickly. It puts so much of a drain to the battery that when plugged into the stock charger the phone will lose power. It happened last night after I went to bed. When I put it on the charger it had 75% battery left when I woke up it only had 18% battery power left. This happens when I'm at work or at home so it doesn't sound like a router or AP issue plus it only happens on my phone and not my wife's phone.
Restarting the phone will fix the issue but this is only a temp fix as it will happen again. I am thinking about clearing the system cache but I cannot get into recovery mode. I do the vol down + power button, then release pwr and press again but it only brings up a screen to reset the entire device.
Disabling WiFi calling would be an obvious work around but I want to keep WiFi calling because where I work we have RF free zones where we cannot have our cellular data turned on and can only have WiFi calling enabled.

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