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Does it support Sandisk Ultra II, or SDHC and is that faster than class 6?
edit: is this okay?
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...com-8GB-SDHC-Class-6-Memory-Card/Product.html
SDHC refers to an extension to the basic SD specification, allowing higher capacities. Hero supports SDHC upto at least 32GB, going on what I've read. I have an 8GB class 6 card.
Ultra xxx this & that is marketing bull with no standardised meaning in respect of performance. From what I can find via google, the Sandisk Ultra II is either class 2 or 4 (or possibly either depending on exactly which card you have).
The class system is a standardised classification of read/write speeds. Always check a card's class.
Is that card (Sandisk) ok? Depends what you want it for. If you intend to install apps to your card via, say, A2SD, I'd say no. Always get a class 6 for this, but it's a matter of personal choice. The standard doesn't imply this but collective empirical evidence also suggests higher class cards tend to be more reliable.
As to the linked card on play.com, it looks ok. Even the reviews seem reasonable, as long as you aren't inflicted with a broken lock tab a few earlier customers report.
TBH as long as you stick with 8GB class 6, as of the current date, you're at the sweet point for capacity-&-performance : price ratio. I bought one recently - think it was Transcend & about the same price.
OK, I think I'll buy that then. The only reason I want it is because at the moment videos always lag on my 2GB class 2 that came with it.
Thanks.
Micro SDHC
HTC Hero supports Micro SD HC and not the standard SD card. So check that before you buy. Im using Transcend 8GB Micro SDHC Class 6 Ultra. Works like breeze.. Also check 16 GB ones coz the price must hv come down.
Oh, so sorry - I didn't notice the card he linked to was not a Micro SD
Hell, that's the second time I've done that - I actually ordered the wrong size on one occasion. I hope this doesn't cost the OP. Even if ordered, they should take a return within 7 days, by law (in the UK, at any rate).
[Edit:] This is an ok deal.
As long as the micro as is class 4 or better then you should be ok with what ever you buy but give eBay a miss a lot of faked memory card and memory stick sizes comming from places like China and the like
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Oh, so sorry - I didn't notice the card he linked to was not a Micro SD
Hell, that's the second time I've done that - I actually ordered the wrong size on one occasion. I hope this doesn't cost the OP. Even if ordered, they should take a return within 7 days, by law (in the UK, at any rate).
[Edit:] This is an ok deal.
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Hahahaha. Thats too funny. Lets just hope he doesn't tear it open as soon as its delivered, no chance of a return then.
Anyway,... I found two good prices,...
Samsung 8GB Micro SD Memory Card - £13.49
Its only a class 4, but speeds in the comments are ok:
Speed (read) 15MB/sec
Speed (write) 6 ~ 7MB/sec
And doesn't this sound interesting,... "Features:- Waterproof - Innovative epoxy moulding compound tech helps over 24 hours in sea water- Shock proof - Survives high pressure, including the crush of a 1.6ton automobile- Magnet-proof - Resists over 13 times the magnetic force of home theater speakers- Elegant Package- Content Protection- Faster Performance"
The 2nd one is what CAULI had found, only slightly cheaper,...
Transcend 8 GB Class 6 microSDHC Flash Memory Card with adapter - £13.99
One customer states "I was getting write speeds of over 6MB I think the fastest was something like 6.70MB per second!"
BUT
Another says "Write speed with this card is the slowest of the lot, barely creeping above 5.3MB/sec"
Hmmmmm,....
Any more advice anyone?
I recently purchased the Samsung 8GB Micro SD class 6 Memory Card from play.com for use in my Hero and it works great with Apps2SD
Thanks for the tips everyone
There's always ebay... I got my 8gb on there for £6 inc. p+p, you can never beat an ebay deal...
I am going to buy the 32 gb Prime (with keyboard) and have been researching memory card options. I am leaning towards the following:
1. Lexar High Speed microsd 32gb Class 10 (for the device)
2. Sandisk Extreme SDHC 32gb class 10 (for the docking station)
I will use this to watch movies, play music, surf the web, take notes, use apps, and play emulators.
My only concern is I've heard the class 10's have trouble with speeds on smaller files/apps/programs. Will that be an issue? Or will these two cards be a good setup?
Pretty much everything will be "slow" on working with smaller files / programs due to file system overhead.
Doesn't matter if it's a class 2/4/10/1,000.
John Kotches said:
Pretty much everything will be "slow" on working with smaller files / programs due to file system overhead.
Doesn't matter if it's a class 2/4/10/1,000.
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I've read similar things as well. You will truly be fine if you just get a Class 4 and save the money.
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I've read similar things as well. You will truly be fine if you just get a Class 4 and save the money.
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with smaller files (a few data blocks in size) you have as many writes to the file system management space as you do data block writes.
with large files there are much fewer writes proportionately which is why large files have higher throughput.
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I went with a 32gb class 10 pny micro sd from newegg. It was 47.99 and I finally tested it last week. Wrote video/music files at 11.5-12mb/sec. Some of the other class 10s had reviews claiming they only wrote at class 4 speeds. I can't stand how slow my class 4 16gb in my phone us...
Hey cyi1 is there a chance you would mind testing the write speed using your phones sd card too just to get a view of the speed difference from class 10-4?
Thanks in advance if you can. I'm sitting here trying to decide whether I get the 32gb class 4 or the 16gb class 10 as they are about the same respective price here.
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Hey cyi1 is there a chance you would mind testing the write speed using your phones sd card too just to get a view of the speed difference from class 10-4?
Thanks in advance if you can. I'm sitting here trying to decide whether I get the 32gb class 4 or the 16gb class 10 as they are about the same respective price here.
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I second that, would like to know this aswell. please let us know.
You might want to give this a read.
I'd also suggest getting SD cards from a source with a good exchange policy. The speeds can fluctuate wildly within a class and even from idenetical cards from the same manufacturer.
So, what ever cards you get, test them and if not-acceptable, exchange them.
I stated this in the "Ultimate Accessory" thread. But I'm going to say it here to.
Don't buy the Patriot MicroSD 32GB Class 10. It's awful and I'm not the only one stating this. It used to be $100+ (I bought it when it first came out), but now it's like $40 because people realized how crappy they are. Speed throughput was never the problem, but they randomly corrupt and when it DOES happen, it's bad. Mine corrupted on me 3 times in only a few months. Each time I was lucky to have had a backup (Ti Media Sync) and managed to save just about everything. The first time I lost a lot of pictures that hadn't backed up yet.
Anyway, the corruption doesn't come from using USB or anything. Everytime mine randomly corrupted, I was using it away from a computer or charger. First time I was watching a video off the card (admittedly porn) and the second time I was taking a picture. Third time I don't know because the phone was in my pocket in standby and when I pulled my phone out to show someone a pic from the phone it wasn't there, along with the rest of the stuff that was on the SD. Oh, and the first time this happened was on my Nexus One, not my Sensation.
Anyway, I replaced it with the Samsung 32GB Class 10 (bought it for just over $80) and it's been rock solid so far (2 months in). Speeds are pretty much identical to the Patriots. I use "Boot Manager" and dual boot a couple different ROMs off it, and they all fly.
Just wanted to give you guys a heads up.
I went "cheap" on a class 4 Transcend 32GB for both my photon and my upcoming Transformer Prime.
In actual copies, I was seeing in the 6-7 MB range so I won't complain.
I purchased the ADATA 32GB Class 10 from NewEgg and it works wonderfully. I haven't done any testing beyond copying 4GB of video files to it, which copied at a rock solid 17MB/s! I'm impressed needless to say.
Model AUSDH32GCL10-RA1
Could you run a crystalmark benchmark on your card(s).
If the transcend random 4k R/W speeds are decent, that may be the ticket for me.
Thanks
curreyr:
i can, but I won't get to this until Sunday when i get home.
6mb/second was not on random writes, it was on bulk copies of mp3 files for the phone
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no problem, and no real hurry (since like others in the holding pattern to actually get a prime).
My wife's xmas gift of a new camera is getting a SanDisk 32gb class 10 "extreme" (SDSDRX3-032G-A21) that I plan on running crystalmark tests on next week.
I might even hold off getting a micro sd until 64gb cards drop closer to $100 ... (e.g SDSDQY-064G-A11A might be killer at ~$100)
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Could you run a crystalmark benchmark on your card(s).
If the transcend random 4k R/W speeds are decent, that may be the ticket for me.
Thanks
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Attached are the results... It's just under 5 in sequential mode...
I was also wondering this. Will there be any difference in watching a video file (1080p) between class 4 or 10?
Large video files will be skewed towards the sequential mode -- which tested @ 20MB per second. That's 160Mbits / second.
In theory, this class 4 card could playback a maximum bit-rate blu-ray iso without a problem. Blu-ray maximum bit rate is 48 Mbits (or 6 MBytes) / second.
Regards,
Class 4 vs 10
Unless you are recording HD video to the SD card, class 10 is a BIG waste of money. The class only refers to the write speed, NOT the read speed. If you are just loading videos or music onto the SD card, then even class 2 will be fine. It may take you longer to load the original files to the card, but it is NOT going to be slower in reading the data compared to class 10.
These class ratings are really needed for HD video camcorders and high FPS (frame per second) cameras that demand high bit rate & speeds. I use a 6 for 720p video on my nikon dslr and for 4-6 fps 14 megapixel shots, but class 2/4 for my phone/tablets where it is just used to store movies, songs, pictures, etc...
I just picked up 2 Samsung class 10 32gb Sd cards from fry for $35 a piece. I think it was a wise decision and will help me out in the future. I know it's overkill but I think for that price it was worth it. So now my Prime will have 96gb of storage when I hook up my dock. That is truly overkill as well, but who knows when I might need all of it lol.
After a huge thread I read here about classes, I changed my mind and went with a class 4 for the Prime (was thinking I mist get a class 10). I picked a Transcend 32gb class 4 off of Amazon for $33 delivered.
So I'm looking to upgrade from my 4 gig Kingston microSD card to something bigger in preparation for CM7 and other things that should give the NT more capabilities in the future. I tend to use memory rather heavily: listening to high bit rate music, downloading lots of apps, and lots of games (especially RPG ROMs). So here's a couple questions I have:
At what memory range should I be looking? Is 32gb overkill?
Is there any brand that I should stay away from, or any that I should prefer?
Are the rates between a Class 4 and, say, a Class 6 SD noticeable?
What places are known to offer some good deals on SD cards?
Should I not even worry about more memory because of the NT's internal memory capacity?
Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1150369
Personally I got a sandisk 32, mainly because I am about to travel so wanted the space for movies photos etc
id get the bigger one. its better to have alotta space available, then be saying in a month "darn, not enough space for this app". better to have alot of free space then have, just a smidge too little
plus if you have alot of apps it will make your back ups larger.
a bigger card would mean your could keep a couple back ups on deck.
Get a 32Gb Sandisk class 4. I didn't get a 64Gb because its way too expensive.
More room for stuff is always better.
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Just to add, nt only supports up to 32 gb sd.
And, you would want a card with a higher class (i.e. class 10) for viewing movies, listening to high quality music, or running an os from your sd card.
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I would go with the 32GB if price is not an issue.. you can never have too much room.
Make sure you buy from a reputable place.. fake cards are common on ebay and can be problematic in both performance and capacity. I usually stick with Sandisk or Kingston for brand but i'm sure there are other good ones... these are just the ones i have had success using.
I have both class 4 and class 6 cards and haven't really noticed any difference.
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Make sure you buy from a reputable place.. fake cards are common on ebay and can be problematic in both performance and capacity. I usually stick with Sandisk or Kingston for brand but i'm sure there are other good ones... these are just the ones i have had success using.
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Transcend has also proved to be a very reputable brand. Amazon brand cards are also good.
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emfetz said:
Just to add, nt only supports up to 32 gb sd.
And, you would want a card with a higher class (i.e. class 10) for viewing movies, listening to high quality music, or running an os from your sd card.
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The class system only sets the write speed, if you look at the link I provided you will see a higher class cards is not always better for everyday use. Especially if you plan on running your os off it.
i have a 32gb sandisk class 4 in my NT. not sure what i had been loading in but now i am left with 10gb only. haha.
AmazonBasics
I went with the 16GB AmazonBasics Class 10. Great performance for the price (exceeds the rating). Rock solid so far.
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...H4U0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1329310724&sr=8-6
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I went with the 16GB AmazonBasics Class 10. Great performance for the price (exceeds the rating). Rock solid so far.
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-...H4U0/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1329310724&sr=8-6
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For how long you have it? Im looking forward get one of those but I wanted to know better about its quality and functionality in the Nook tablet.
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I purchased it about a week after I got my NT. So I've had it since the beginning of January. Not that long to really determine the longevity of it. Pretty good reviews overall on Amazon.
Do you know of any good apps to test out the card? I could run them and get you the results.
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For how long you have it? Im looking forward get one of those but I wanted to know better about its quality and functionality in the Nook tablet.
~ Veronica
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I bought a 32GB class 4 Team MicroSD. No complaints thus far. Speeds as reported by SD tools;
Write: 4.7MB/s
Read: 18.1MB/s
The nook write cache is really crippled. It's set to 128KB.
Here's my performance with the AmazonBasics 16GB class 10 at various cache settings:
128KB
Read: 18MB
Write: 5.6MB
1024KB
Read: 18MB
Write: 14.3MB
2048KB
Read: 18.4MB
Write: 14.6MB
3072KB
Read: 18.8MB
Write: 14.6MB
4096KB
Read: 18.1MB
Write: 13.9MB
I'll probably stick to 1024KB to speed up smaller writes.
I use Transcend 16 GB Class 10 microSDHC TS16GUSDHC10 cards in all of my devices (2 android phones, Nook Tablet). Works great.
Movies can be transferred to the memory card very quickly, using the external cardreader (writing speed is about 19 MB/sec).
price is about $25 on amazon.com
I would always go with the highest amount of space 32 gb class 10. I always shop for my electronics at Newegg.
ag94 said:
I use Transcend 16 GB Class 10 microSDHC TS16GUSDHC10 cards in all of my devices (2 android phones, Nook Tablet). Works great.
Movies can be transferred to the memory card very quickly, using the external cardreader (writing speed is about 19 MB/sec).
price is about $25 on amazon.com
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mmm interesting and no problems at all? For how long you've use it in your Nook tablet?
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no problems at all? For how long you've use it in your Nook tablet?
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I use NT with Transcend 16GB for last 2 weeks. No problem.
Some high speeed (class 10) cards don't work with old Motorola smartphones, e.g. Milestone XT720.
A friend I work with has a brand new PNY 32g class 10 high speed MicroSDHC card (simiilar to http://www.amazon.com/PNY-microSDHC...91917&sr=1-5&keywords=32+gb+micro+sd+card+pny) he is willing to give me for $20. I can also get a SanDisk Ultra 32 GB MicroSDHC C10 for about $23 on amazon(http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-micro...369628598&sr=8-4&keywords=32+gb+micro+sd+card). Which do you think is the better card far a speed and durability? and the random read/write scenario? thanks a lot.
EDIT: curious as to which one would be better at HD video recording and playback as well.
Honestly, I have used both PNY and Sandisk and have not seen a real difference in performance or durability in either one. That being said, I seem to remember reading an article recently (that of course I can't find now) that seem to show the Sandisk products handle sustained high data rate reads/writes better, but I have never seen this in any application. To be honest, in the phone you will likely be limited on the read-write speeds by the phone more than the card itself, in the Rezound the difference between a Class 4 and Class 10 is negligible.
So back to your original question... $20 to a friend or $23 to Amazon, just give your buddy the $20 and you have the card today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1005633 from the nook color forum. Sandisk is faster for small block random write, which I would suspect is only an issue if your running the system off of SD like CM on the Nook devices. Probably not a issue being used for media storage on a phone.
Hi all,
I have the 10.1 2014 tab pro and I want to get a new SD card. I know from my brief reading through these forums that not all SD cards will work and I dont know enough to really understand what is what (like what does "SDHC Tf Class 10" mean?). If anyone knows what it is that I need to look for before buying one so that it will work fine with my tablet please post here.
ps I am using these primarily to store books and documents, not videos or games or anything that really takes a massive workload or speed requirement.
pps Im not sure if this matters, but I am running stock unrooted
TIA
Most any newly purchased MicroSD card should do. What did you read won't work? Below Class 10 cards might not work for some high speed functions (like video), but I believe all should work for casual use like you describe.
SDHC versus SDXC mainly refers to the capacity of the card, which you are probably going to be looking at separately (in GB) anyway, so it really doesn't matter. Basically, the original SD standard (also called SDSC) was limited to 2 (4?) GB. SDHC increased the capacity up to 32 GB, and anything higher than that is SDXC by definition. There are some other minor differences, but probably nothing you really need to worry much about.
Class (8, 10, etc.) refers to the read/write speed; but you may also see a UHS speed classification (U1, U3) also. Even though you are not talking about high speed demand tasks, I'd still tend toward Class 10 or U1 cards. Just in case you change your mind about what you want to save to the card; and many cards meet Class 10 or U1, anyway. For the few cards that you can find with lower speed class, you might save $10, so its probably not even worth it to consider lower speed class cards.
The following Wiki articles goes into a lot more detail about the specs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital
Out of all this, I'd be more worried about brand, or getting a counterfeit product. Some cheap or off-brand cards seem to fail more frequently than the big names. Folks all have their favorites, and may argue that you are just paying more for the brand. But I've bought several Sandisk cards, and never had any issues (and heard similar from other users on XDA).
I'd also stick to a reputable seller (Newegg, Amazon, etc.) as places like eBay are awash with counterfeit SD cards. Its so easy to relabel a card as a higher capacity (i. e. take a 32 GB card and label it as 128 GB, etc.) and even spoof the device to read it as the "fake" capacity, than charge much more $$$.
I am using one of these on my TabPRO:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-MicroSDHC-Memory-without-adapter/dp/B00AYC6V2U
Works fine on all my Android devices.
And to really leverage it outside of Google Apps and pre-installed items you need to root and enable write to the SD card, unfortunately. (Unless I'm missing something.)
Thanks, I really appreciate that info on what all those terms mean. However, right now I am using a 32gb Sandisk ultra, and my data keeps getting corrupted, apps cant find it, showing up empty on every file explorer I try.... Therefore I thought since Sandisk is legit (I bought it at costco so its real Sandisk) I figured there must be some issue with the type of card.
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Thanks, I really appreciate that info on what all those terms mean. However, right now I am using a 32gb Sandisk ultra, and my data keeps getting corrupted, apps cant find it, showing up empty on every file explorer I try.... Therefore I thought since Sandisk is legit (I bought it at costco so its real Sandisk) I figured there must be some issue with the type of card.
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I had similar issues with a genuine SanDisk card in my S3 (couldn't access it in recovery either), just showed a bunch random characters instead of file names etc), swapped it to a different brand (I got a genuine Sammy one because it was a bargain at the time) and that solved the problem....