I have read and seen a lot about the ROM for the XDA2 but still can't understand everything abopuut it.
I understand that it is the Memory in the device that loads when you give it a hard reset. So what are the differences between the different ROM's around and is there one that stands up better than the rest?
Also how do you go about changing the ROM? And is it a safe procedure. Can I save the ROM I have and put it back with ease if a new one does not work for me?
All these questions I would love to know the answers to but could not find the answers directly here, is there anywhere I can point my navigator to to find out in simple non geekie language?
I wish I was a Geek but my brain will not cope with too much techkie stuff at one time and shuts down
Adam
Butler,
I understand your pain! But you have to begin somewhere...
Changing ROMs is a dangerous process that can lead even the most experienced " geek" through a lot of frustration and wasted time. It is however, in the nature of us, who are never contented with the normal out of the box" oftenly" flawed solutions, to tinker and experiment with the devices and create customized versions containing only the best for what we want to do.
The ROM is the software that makes your XDA work, the OS(operating system) for your device. It contains all the programs and applications needed to run the phone and PDA aspects. It also contains what is called a Radio Stack, which is what runs the Radio/ Phone version of the device.
Sometimes, these carriers will take the OS and make modifications such as installing their own time measuring/ messagin applications.These apps often cause a lot of issues in regards to performance and memory leaks and etc.
Our devices have an Operating System provided by Microsoft :twisted: and based on the Windows CE ( Compact Edition), which itself has many versions. The latest of these versions is what is called Windows Mobile 2003.
There are many ROM and Radio Stack versions ( like OS's) each with features and functionalities which work best for certain phone providers.
The XDA, MDA and XDAII are manufactured by a company called HTC ( called an OEM- Original Equipment Manufacturer) for many of our carriers.)
So playing with your ROM means potentially lobotomizing your unit :roll: , which is a thought that scares some and excites some! It is a great feeling to bring back a unit that was non-functioning or DEAD and have it working the way you want it to work...
My recomendation is that you read the posts in this and other boards before you decide to do an upgrade or tweak your XDA. Good Luck! 8)
Thanks for that Great Information. I had guessed a few of the things you wrote but it's nice to know these things from a real understandable Geek.
I love to mess with these things as well as long as I have an escape plan. Is there a way to save your exixting ROM on a PC and try others out, and if they don't work or I just dont like them put it back. I am sure there is but I have no idea how. How do you extract and load a ROM?? Also if the new ROM fails and the device does not start up can you still connect the XDA2 to a PC to put back your origional of another ROM. That is the bit that sounds scarry to me.
I use the O2 ROM that came with the phone and it really needs a bit of improving. There are several issues with it that could be looked at. Do you know of any great Radio Stacks out there???
Thanks again
Adam
By the way I am a photographer working for AP based in London and use my phone all the time to transmit my pictures back to the office. The phone does not work as well as a nokia in reliable GSM conections and GPRS and is slower have you any ideas about it?
Related
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
then don't
or you can read the fourms and follow directions and upgrade to pk3
WHY?? make your device faster more stable less bugs and better programs built in if you dont want to break your device dont install any extra software than what comes on the official disc's but if you do this why bother getting the best device out there? extra software adds extra functionality and so does flashing a new rom it needs to be done just read all relevent forums all the way thru and if anything does go wrong we will be here to help and hopefully get this sorted for you
You don't have too and if you are at all unsure then don't!
SupraSkylineSTI said:
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
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Let's see a show of hands out there... How many people have gone back to their original ROM after trying PK? As long as you are willing to accept the consequences if something goes wrong (unlikely if you can read and follow instructions) it's a no-brainer.
SupraSkylineSTI said:
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
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This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
eaglesteve said:
This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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Thanks for that post man...
You really helped me.
I thought that it was mandatory to flash the roms or my device would run like crap but I guess that isn't the case.
eaglesteve said:
This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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i think i can happily say all programs in pk 3.0 can be turned off. the extended rom customizations u can soft reset on and they will be gone.the programs like wktask for task mananger u have to turn on and enable it to come on at boot. the rest of the programs do not turn on by thier own u have to select them. ap dual 3.0 will be less bloated with this stuff. vxutil, pocketrar, total commander, wm5torage,wktask, softkey app, and htc apps will only be in there. i could be more specific but i wont be. those apps i think we can say we will use and if not they can be just ignored speciall totalcommander, wm5torage, and vxutil since they in system and out of the way. softkey is hidden so that leaves pocketrar and wktask out there. most apps u can remove the shorcuts and it will look like a stock rom. stock roms have same amount of availbable space as my roms. only differences in available space are via ext rom installs. i believe ap dual 3.0 will be successful and will provide variety.
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
Allenzo said:
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
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Nope sorry to say no official Wm6 rom n no best Wm6 rom either every rom on this forum has its gud qualities n bugs also.................
Allenzo said:
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
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No official WM6 ROM released for Prophet. The last official ROM is WM5 from Qtek.
As for the best, it depends on your definition. More software packaged? Faster in response? or shorter booting time? How about long term stress test with less memory leak?
It also depends on to what extent you are willing to reconfigure it. No on-size-fits-all.
To me, stability and speed go above all other features. Less software packed mean less possibility to go wrong. Korand's new ROM offers these. I got around 30 software already installed on my SD card, with only one patch of CAB to make up registry and shortcut, all of them runs well.
When something went wrong, it's easier to debug, simply hard reset to original ROM state. (Not if your ROM has already got a lot of software and tweak.)
I like Korand's philosophy to build a clean ROM as platform to others. If anything not so perfect, that would be no Power Point mobile, mms, windows live messenger, and java, make it less official look.
However, Power Point is rather impractical mess in a small screen, the same to mms, WLM, without 3G.
It's really up to personal requirement to decide which one is the best. To me, besides speed and stability, the one puts most fundamental, unchanging stuff inside the ROM, and leaves out constantly upgrading stuff outside, is the best for me, partly because i can do the addon myself.
Here i would also like to take the liberty to implore the authors of cooked ROM, or forum moderators, since many guys ask which ROM is the best for them, why not do a more organized form, list to put on the top of forum.
A clean ROM, the common platform to those variants, can be pick out as a lead, like a pedigree, so people can be easier on tracing problem.
On the other hand, as a user, a beggar can't be a chooser, no author got paid here, so, try and choose one best fit your need...Good luck...
godel.chen said:
No official WM6 ROM released for Prophet. The last official ROM is WM5 from Qtek.
As for the best, it depends on your definition. More software packaged? Faster in response? or shorter booting time? How about long term stress test with less memory leak?
It also depends on to what extent you are willing to reconfigure it. No on-size-fits-all.
To me, stability and speed go above all other features. Less software packed mean less possibility to go wrong. Korand's new ROM offers these. I got around 30 software already installed on my SD card, with only one patch of CAB to make up registry and shortcut, all of them runs well.
When something went wrong, it's easier to debug, simply hard reset to original ROM state. (Not if your ROM has already got a lot of software and tweak.)
I like Korand's philosophy to build a clean ROM as platform to others. If anything not so perfect, that would be no Power Point mobile, mms, windows live messenger, and java, make it less official look.
However, Power Point is rather impractical mess in a small screen, the same to mms, WLM, without 3G.
It's really up to personal requirement to decide which one is the best. To me, besides speed and stability, the one puts most fundamental, unchanging stuff inside the ROM, and leaves out constantly upgrading stuff outside, is the best for me, partly because i can do the addon myself.
Here i would also like to take the liberty to implore the authors of cooked ROM, or forum moderators, since many guys ask which ROM is the best for them, why not do a more organized form, list to put on the top of forum.
A clean ROM, the common platform to those variants, can be pick out as a lead, like a pedigree, so people can be easier on tracing problem.
On the other hand, as a user, a beggar can't be a chooser, no author got paid here, so, try and choose one best fit your need...Good luck...
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Thanks Man
Hey,
I've been looking other this forum and other sites and cant find anythin of use.
Basically I'm wanting to know if there is a way to test a ROM without having to install it onto a phone/PDA.
As I've been looking at buying a new HTC QTEK 8500 (StrTrk) for my girlfriend as she's sick of her phone and wants a new one. The phone comes with WM 5.0 on but I have found a few ROMs for WM 6.1 and before I buy the phone I want to checkout the ROM to see what it'll basically be like to use the phone.
What software do I need to be able to emulate a phone to test run a ROM?
This would be useful for others as well if its a generic way as then everyone can test out a ROM and then decide if they want to flash it to their device.
Thanks alot for the help,
M_Taylor40
i don't know how useful emulating the rom would be since the experience would differ based on hardware. Most developers post what apps their rom contain so users know what their getting into before.
Yeah you are right, just my girlfriend is a bit picky about her stuff and I don't want to spend £70 on a new phone for her not to like it lol.
Just thought it would be useful tho, I'm pretty sure you would be able to do it with the Windows Mobile 6.1 SDK kit and Visual Studio just don't have a clue how lol.
M_Taylor40
I also think that with the SDK and visual studio you might get an idea although based on my very little experience with programming, the only way to know the output is testing it on the real thing. I would say that if she likes the phone originally with WM5 then you can test a WM6 or 6.1 ROM and if you don't like it then flash back to WM5. Many people (including myself) flash all the time to find the best ROM for them.
Lol, thats the thing, I aint bought the phone yet so she can only go off my Kaiser to see what WM6.1 is on there (She aint gettin as good a phone as me lol!)
She likes the look of the phone but I think she wants drivin lessons instead lol, see wot it goes for on ebay lol, was £15 I saw last night!
Thanks anyway!
M_Taylor40
Any solution?
I've been reading through a couple of threads on this board concerning upgrading my XV6800 to WM6.5 and I have what may possibly be some stupid questions.
First - I'm the happy owner of two XV6800's so I was planning on using the not-currently-activated one as my guinea pig in case I brick the phone. I've downloaded what appear to be the most current upgrade files from theUnlockr.com and some instructions from that site. What I need to know is is theUnlockr a reliable site? Are these the most current files available? I'm currently upgraded to the 3.57.605.2 ROM and the 3.37.78 radio and I am looking to upgrade the HardSPL (which is what, exactly?), the radio (to 3.42.50 - which, if I am not mistaken, someone mentioned was eating battery life?) and the ROM using the version Unlockr has up as their latest favorite (RMverizonTitanWM65V2[1].1Heavy). I am pretty sure I can follow the directions that were given, but I'm hoping someone here can advise me if I should.
With all these updates running around everyone's 'kitchens' - it's hard for a relative noob like me to know which is the best update for her. I don't really need GPS - though I may load Garmin XT on my phone at some point - but I would like to have an efficient, elegant ROM on my phone that will not hog all my memory and will still give me at least all my current functionality (though hopefully more). Should I even be looking to update to WM6.5? Which update version do you folks think is the best for the Titan/Mogul/XV6800?
Thank you in advance for your patience and for the AMAZINGLY generous soul who has spent the time to generate these files! I went to the Verizon site and they don't seem to even remember what the 6800 looks like! And HTC doesn't have much either. I was amazed to find these sites. You guys are a godsend!
Ariel
Follow below just use whatever rom you want. http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=33857
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
arielphf said:
Thank you for the thread link. I've upgraded roms before, but it never hurts to have detailed directions like that. Good deal. However, what I was looking for was advice on whether or not the 6800 performs better under the available roms or if, in the experienced opinion of the developers on this site, it was better left as Microsoft intended? Does the fact that it only comes with 64 MB of RAM hurt it when loading WM6.5? Most of the new devices coming out with 6.5 have more than that and I wondered if I could get some advice before I jumped in. That's all.
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The Titan is a very durable device. In my experience you can flash it at least a hundred times..
So my advice is to try as many ROMs as you like. 6.1, 6.5, Light, Heavy, Naked, Stock. Whatever it doesnt matter. Just keep going until you find what floats your boat.
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
arielphf said:
LOL! Well, I doubt I'll be doing it a hundred times, but I figured I'd try and save myself some mistakes by asking the experts who have.
BTW, I think you were the one who came up with the ROM I've loaded (2.1 heavy) - very nice so far! I'm still getting a feel for it and I haven't tried to load any of my own software on it yet, but so far it's very slick. Thanks!
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No problem sir. Glad I could be of assistance. My main computer is broke at the moment and I awaiting a new power supply now, currently using my spare computer (I dont have a spare 1000watt power supply to run my main pc for the banterers lol). Or else I would have my ROMs updated. More for you to mess around with. But the ones I have uploaded now should work out fine. I noticed in the nuetools folder though the leds shortcut is a folder. I fixed that though just have to re-cook and re-upload. Among other changes.
If I were to upgrade to the fix you describe, I'd only have to do the ROM again, right? The hardSPL and radio would be fine? See? I told you, stupid questions...
you are correct only the rom
Hello to all the XDA community. Before starting, I want to clarify that I am French, so I apologize for the possibly questionable translation by Google Translate.
As indicated in the title, my request concerns a very old smartphone model: the Samsung Omnia i900, or Player Addict in France. I come to you with a very specific request and, even if I have few illusions, I hope that someone can help me...
As the title of this file indicates, this is a Samsung Omnia i900 (Player Addict). At the time of the next Samsung S22, and despite its age, I am still using a copy that is almost 13 years old this year (I am 16) and which, as surprising as it may seem, still works wonderfully. I mention in passing that he took a little dip in the bathtub 10 years ago, but it's only a distant memory since he recovered on his own. I mainly use it as an MP3 player, the Web is closing itself more and more to it, but I'm so attached to it that I've embarked on a real restoration campaign, just to "update" it, if 'you can update an obsolete operating system… I then discovered XDA Developers, and, thanks to you, the little smartphone has almost come back to life. Thanks to some old forum files, I unlocked it, installed Net Compact Framework 3.5, experimented with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, changed some registry values (changed logo on startup), etc… In addition, I also modernized thanks to the Wayback Machine where I was able to download the latest version of Google Maps and Opera Mobile 10. Finally, I replaced the touch screen myself and I am currently waiting for a new "body", making it an almost new laptop. But now, I want to go to the next step, and that's the subject of this file: the ROM.
After this slight update, I came up with the idea of flashing my current ROM for a more recent ROM. The smartphone was indeed purchased from SFR, and therefore runs on the operator ROM. I therefore want to replace it with the latest French ROM without an operator, in order to fully exploit it. Moreover, it has never been updated, therefore never flashed, which implies the presence of bugs which could have been modified afterwards. Thanks to your forum, I pretty much know how to do it, and am fully aware that wrong flashing leads to bricking, and flashing also leads to loss of all data. It's a risk I'm willing to take. I only miss one thing: the precious ROM. However, for 10 years, the various links and sites have disappeared, and even a small turn on the Wayback Machine does not give blazing results at first sight. And when it comes to finding a French version…
It is for this reason that I am appealing to you today. I have been able to know, by exploring your old files, that there have been a lot of custom ROMs on this forum, and, given all the advice you have given, I think you are the most able to help me. to help. So, I'm looking for a ROM for Samsung Omnia i900 (aka Player Addict), in French, and official. Official, for the version under WM 6.1 anyway. On the other hand, I would also be tempted by a custom ROM for WM 6.5. I know the OS was never "officially" released on the Omnia i900, but I know many of you have made your own ROMs to accommodate it. I particularly like the Titanium Today, and the more finger-friendly use. Does anyone among you have in their old hard drives, in their archives, an official French ROM under WM 6.1, or a custom ROM for WM 6.5? I specify that if it is WM 6.5, I would need the widgets and the Samsung Today. I may be difficult, but I would like to put a newer system (especially not Android, I have my Galaxy S5 for that), while keeping the features originally present. Regarding flashing, having a computer running Windows 11, would a possible flashing be possible? I thought I heard flashing could go wrong if it wasn't Windows XP...
I apologize again for disturbing, I suspect that this request is very particular, given the age of the device, but I keep the hope that someone will still have at home the precious Grail that will allow me to modernize once and for all my venerable device.
For information, my Omnia runs under the XHIB3/AEIB2 ROM (I think I read the right line…), and this is the 16 Go version.
I look forward to hearing from you!
Nicolas
PS: This is my first time writing on a forum, so I apologize if I missed any steps when posting this file… I'm only a high school student, not a developer, so I don't know not if I'm really allowed to post on your forum...