With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
then don't
or you can read the fourms and follow directions and upgrade to pk3
WHY?? make your device faster more stable less bugs and better programs built in if you dont want to break your device dont install any extra software than what comes on the official disc's but if you do this why bother getting the best device out there? extra software adds extra functionality and so does flashing a new rom it needs to be done just read all relevent forums all the way thru and if anything does go wrong we will be here to help and hopefully get this sorted for you
You don't have too and if you are at all unsure then don't!
SupraSkylineSTI said:
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
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Let's see a show of hands out there... How many people have gone back to their original ROM after trying PK? As long as you are willing to accept the consequences if something goes wrong (unlikely if you can read and follow instructions) it's a no-brainer.
SupraSkylineSTI said:
With all of these horror stories I dont see why the unexperienced people bother upgrading and flashing roms on their athenas. I will be getting the X7501 and was wondering why would I want to flash the rom... I am just wondering if it is absoluetly necessary to do.. What are the advantages ( No pun intended ) Thanks.
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This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
eaglesteve said:
This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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Thanks for that post man...
You really helped me.
I thought that it was mandatory to flash the roms or my device would run like crap but I guess that isn't the case.
eaglesteve said:
This depends on what your present ROM is. If mine is an Ameo from T mobile where the vendor has given only the WM5 ROM, then obviously you have a strong case to use PK ROM.
The original Dopod ROM works very well for me. No bugs with realVGA, very fast, and I get every functionality of pk3 except Finger Touch at 96 and 128 dpi, but I'm not a fan of Finger Touch anyway because of reasons I've stated in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1602622
Initially, I was considering using it because of page pool change. But now I can also have that functionality using the original Dopod WM6 ROM.
All the free CABS in PK3 can be obtained directly yourself if you like them. The advantage of getting these cabs yourself is you could remove them if you don't like them. With PK3, if the CABS are installed into the ROM then you have to put up with them even if you don't want it.
As for the black theme, many black themes are readily available free of charge too.
So for me, there's no compelling reason to make the change.
Don't get me wrong, I do think that PK3 is very good. It's just that my criteria for choosing a third party software is not whether they are free, but whether they are what I like the best.
I do not mind using PK3 because unlike PK1 and PK2, I don't see so many problems now in these threads. However, I also ask myself, will HTC honor my warranty if my device suddenly develop a hardware fault (say may be the USB port could not function anymore) and as a result I could not have a chance to flash back to original ROM before sending back for servicing.
I could try to cook my own ROM, putting in my favourite software keyboard, and other software, using midget's kitchen tool, but that has the same implication on warranty.
If the unlocker's author name could be removed, then I would certainly take the plunge now. There is a low risk that I would brick my expensive device, but I can live with that.
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i think i can happily say all programs in pk 3.0 can be turned off. the extended rom customizations u can soft reset on and they will be gone.the programs like wktask for task mananger u have to turn on and enable it to come on at boot. the rest of the programs do not turn on by thier own u have to select them. ap dual 3.0 will be less bloated with this stuff. vxutil, pocketrar, total commander, wm5torage,wktask, softkey app, and htc apps will only be in there. i could be more specific but i wont be. those apps i think we can say we will use and if not they can be just ignored speciall totalcommander, wm5torage, and vxutil since they in system and out of the way. softkey is hidden so that leaves pocketrar and wktask out there. most apps u can remove the shorcuts and it will look like a stock rom. stock roms have same amount of availbable space as my roms. only differences in available space are via ext rom installs. i believe ap dual 3.0 will be successful and will provide variety.
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I have read and seen a lot about the ROM for the XDA2 but still can't understand everything abopuut it.
I understand that it is the Memory in the device that loads when you give it a hard reset. So what are the differences between the different ROM's around and is there one that stands up better than the rest?
Also how do you go about changing the ROM? And is it a safe procedure. Can I save the ROM I have and put it back with ease if a new one does not work for me?
All these questions I would love to know the answers to but could not find the answers directly here, is there anywhere I can point my navigator to to find out in simple non geekie language?
I wish I was a Geek but my brain will not cope with too much techkie stuff at one time and shuts down
Adam
Butler,
I understand your pain! But you have to begin somewhere...
Changing ROMs is a dangerous process that can lead even the most experienced " geek" through a lot of frustration and wasted time. It is however, in the nature of us, who are never contented with the normal out of the box" oftenly" flawed solutions, to tinker and experiment with the devices and create customized versions containing only the best for what we want to do.
The ROM is the software that makes your XDA work, the OS(operating system) for your device. It contains all the programs and applications needed to run the phone and PDA aspects. It also contains what is called a Radio Stack, which is what runs the Radio/ Phone version of the device.
Sometimes, these carriers will take the OS and make modifications such as installing their own time measuring/ messagin applications.These apps often cause a lot of issues in regards to performance and memory leaks and etc.
Our devices have an Operating System provided by Microsoft :twisted: and based on the Windows CE ( Compact Edition), which itself has many versions. The latest of these versions is what is called Windows Mobile 2003.
There are many ROM and Radio Stack versions ( like OS's) each with features and functionalities which work best for certain phone providers.
The XDA, MDA and XDAII are manufactured by a company called HTC ( called an OEM- Original Equipment Manufacturer) for many of our carriers.)
So playing with your ROM means potentially lobotomizing your unit :roll: , which is a thought that scares some and excites some! It is a great feeling to bring back a unit that was non-functioning or DEAD and have it working the way you want it to work...
My recomendation is that you read the posts in this and other boards before you decide to do an upgrade or tweak your XDA. Good Luck! 8)
Thanks for that Great Information. I had guessed a few of the things you wrote but it's nice to know these things from a real understandable Geek.
I love to mess with these things as well as long as I have an escape plan. Is there a way to save your exixting ROM on a PC and try others out, and if they don't work or I just dont like them put it back. I am sure there is but I have no idea how. How do you extract and load a ROM?? Also if the new ROM fails and the device does not start up can you still connect the XDA2 to a PC to put back your origional of another ROM. That is the bit that sounds scarry to me.
I use the O2 ROM that came with the phone and it really needs a bit of improving. There are several issues with it that could be looked at. Do you know of any great Radio Stacks out there???
Thanks again
Adam
By the way I am a photographer working for AP based in London and use my phone all the time to transmit my pictures back to the office. The phone does not work as well as a nokia in reliable GSM conections and GPRS and is slower have you any ideas about it?
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
Allenzo said:
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
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Nope sorry to say no official Wm6 rom n no best Wm6 rom either every rom on this forum has its gud qualities n bugs also.................
Allenzo said:
I am new with upgrading ROMs and i downloaded all the ROMs and flash it
I found that what u can find in one Rom you wont find it in another one
What is the Best ROM for WM6?
And Another Question
Is there an OFFICIALl WM6 ROM that is distributed by IMATE?
Like HTC Touch Has it own WM6 Rom
Where can i Find This Official Rom?
Thank You
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No official WM6 ROM released for Prophet. The last official ROM is WM5 from Qtek.
As for the best, it depends on your definition. More software packaged? Faster in response? or shorter booting time? How about long term stress test with less memory leak?
It also depends on to what extent you are willing to reconfigure it. No on-size-fits-all.
To me, stability and speed go above all other features. Less software packed mean less possibility to go wrong. Korand's new ROM offers these. I got around 30 software already installed on my SD card, with only one patch of CAB to make up registry and shortcut, all of them runs well.
When something went wrong, it's easier to debug, simply hard reset to original ROM state. (Not if your ROM has already got a lot of software and tweak.)
I like Korand's philosophy to build a clean ROM as platform to others. If anything not so perfect, that would be no Power Point mobile, mms, windows live messenger, and java, make it less official look.
However, Power Point is rather impractical mess in a small screen, the same to mms, WLM, without 3G.
It's really up to personal requirement to decide which one is the best. To me, besides speed and stability, the one puts most fundamental, unchanging stuff inside the ROM, and leaves out constantly upgrading stuff outside, is the best for me, partly because i can do the addon myself.
Here i would also like to take the liberty to implore the authors of cooked ROM, or forum moderators, since many guys ask which ROM is the best for them, why not do a more organized form, list to put on the top of forum.
A clean ROM, the common platform to those variants, can be pick out as a lead, like a pedigree, so people can be easier on tracing problem.
On the other hand, as a user, a beggar can't be a chooser, no author got paid here, so, try and choose one best fit your need...Good luck...
godel.chen said:
No official WM6 ROM released for Prophet. The last official ROM is WM5 from Qtek.
As for the best, it depends on your definition. More software packaged? Faster in response? or shorter booting time? How about long term stress test with less memory leak?
It also depends on to what extent you are willing to reconfigure it. No on-size-fits-all.
To me, stability and speed go above all other features. Less software packed mean less possibility to go wrong. Korand's new ROM offers these. I got around 30 software already installed on my SD card, with only one patch of CAB to make up registry and shortcut, all of them runs well.
When something went wrong, it's easier to debug, simply hard reset to original ROM state. (Not if your ROM has already got a lot of software and tweak.)
I like Korand's philosophy to build a clean ROM as platform to others. If anything not so perfect, that would be no Power Point mobile, mms, windows live messenger, and java, make it less official look.
However, Power Point is rather impractical mess in a small screen, the same to mms, WLM, without 3G.
It's really up to personal requirement to decide which one is the best. To me, besides speed and stability, the one puts most fundamental, unchanging stuff inside the ROM, and leaves out constantly upgrading stuff outside, is the best for me, partly because i can do the addon myself.
Here i would also like to take the liberty to implore the authors of cooked ROM, or forum moderators, since many guys ask which ROM is the best for them, why not do a more organized form, list to put on the top of forum.
A clean ROM, the common platform to those variants, can be pick out as a lead, like a pedigree, so people can be easier on tracing problem.
On the other hand, as a user, a beggar can't be a chooser, no author got paid here, so, try and choose one best fit your need...Good luck...
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Thanks Man
You can find HERE the IRUS tools and HOW TO build your own ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2176131&postcount=3
Very fine tools
I hope my internet will be fixed eventualy, so I can download this tools to try it. It is a time to learn something new.
Tadeusz said:
I hope my internet will be fixed eventualy, so I can download this tools to try it. It is a time to learn something new.
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thats the spirit, if you have any questions just post'em
I'd actually consider downloading this, but I tend to be pretty picky about knowing where all the files came from and what changes were made, so I'll probably stick with my own kitchen I'm futzing around with. I'll take a peek, though, and I might be able to suggest a change or two if I notice things I've figured out that you've not yet implemented yet.
Sogarth said:
I'd actually consider downloading this, but I tend to be pretty picky about knowing where all the files came from and what changes were made, so I'll probably stick with my own kitchen I'm futzing around with. I'll take a peek, though, and I might be able to suggest a change or two if I notice things I've figured out that you've not yet implemented yet.
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Why don't you also post your kitchen and instruction on how to use it too?
eaglesteve said:
Why don't you also post your kitchen and instruction on how to use it too?
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You want the honest truth? A couple of reasons.
In order to have something that I'd feel comfortable with other people using, it would require several more weeks of futzing around with the files. I've already been at this for almost three weeks now, and I'm tired of using my HTC Typhoon. I want my real phone back (since the Athena >>> Typhoon).
The final ROM that I'll be using won't match the ROM that other people will be using, period. It's because I'll be putting some of the software that I've bought into my ROM, and putting in some hard-coded dependencies upon those (since there are some interesting things here and there you can do).
I hate doing support. For which I heartily applaud irus, since he's been single-handedly patiently trying to help everyone who's been using his ROM. Pawel was doing the same for a while, albeit a little less patiently, although I don't know where he's disappeared off to recently.
There are probably other reasons as well, but those are the ones I can think of for now. I mean, if there's truly interest, I can see what I can do, but one of the other things that bit me the last time is that I don't want to debug things alone again - the last time, it sucked well over a month from my life to handle all that.
Anyways, this is the thread for the IRUS ROM Kitchen, not the maybe Sogarth ROM kitchen, so I'll leave it at that.
What about mixing Chinese with new Irus one?
I wonder if there could be a way to mix Irus rom with this Chinese one to get a new WWE version based on the newest built and fastest up to now?
It should not be e big problem to put mui files from Irus kitchen into Chinese rom and change a mui to English. There is a reg key setting language for the rom. Irus knows it better then me, anyway.
Unfortunately I can't download anything from rapidsare nor from megaploads because of me being behind a proxy of my 3G network.
Irus, if you could upload your kitchen on my eurotelefon server, then I could get it here and start learning. Today I have some work to do yet, but maybe later I could start.
Edit:
We have to test new rom of Irus first, and then compare it with the Chinese version. It could be very interesting. Steve has very good experience with this Chinese rom so we eventually could use it in future works. Of course we need to ask for the permission, but I am sure the Chinese producer can be proud of his work and let us use it to build something new on it. This is how the development goes, anyway.
Sogarth said:
You want the honest truth? A couple of reasons.
In order to have something that I'd feel comfortable with other people using, it would require several more weeks of futzing around with the files. I've already been at this for almost three weeks now, and I'm tired of using my HTC Typhoon. I want my real phone back (since the Athena >>> Typhoon).
The final ROM that I'll be using won't match the ROM that other people will be using, period. It's because I'll be putting some of the software that I've bought into my ROM, and putting in some hard-coded dependencies upon those (since there are some interesting things here and there you can do).
I hate doing support. For which I heartily applaud irus, since he's been single-handedly patiently trying to help everyone who's been using his ROM. Pawel was doing the same for a while, albeit a little less patiently, although I don't know where he's disappeared off to recently.
There are probably other reasons as well, but those are the ones I can think of for now. I mean, if there's truly interest, I can see what I can do, but one of the other things that bit me the last time is that I don't want to debug things alone again - the last time, it sucked well over a month from my life to handle all that.
Anyways, this is the thread for the IRUS ROM Kitchen, not the maybe Sogarth ROM kitchen, so I'll leave it at that.
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Ready to change the 3d into something different....
Tadeusz said:
I wonder if there could be a way to mix Irus rom with this Chinese one to get a new WWE version based on the newest built and fastest up to now?
It should not be e big problem to put mui files from Irus kitchen into Chinese rom and change a mui to English. There is a reg key setting language for the rom. Irus knows it better then me, anyway.
Unfortunately I can't download anything from rapidsare nor from megaploads because of me being behind a proxy of my 3G network.
Irus, if you could upload your kitchen on my eurotelefon server, then I could get it here and start learning. Today I have some work to do yet, but maybe later I could start.
Edit:
We have to test new rom of Irus first, and then compare it with the Chinese version. It could be very interesting. Steve has very good experience with this Chinese rom so we eventually could use it in future works. Of course we need to ask for the permission, but I am sure the Chinese producer can be proud of his work and let us use it to build something new on it. This is how the development goes, anyway.
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i took a brief shoot as i have never done a language swap before and it did not work i will consider it but im still fussing around with new bt stack so people can send files back and forth between phones and laptop and phone. that is the last thing i need to do to make my rom complete. i will want a monday release as i said i would release on monday and i don't like being late. but on the other hand the chinese rom works better at transferring files so if this becomes a dead end then i might have no choice but to push back the release date and work with the chinese rom. i will make an official announcement tomorrow night
Sergiopi,
Please see my post on the Chinese ROM thread regarding caution in using this download.
irus,
This looks like a user friendly tool, but I've a question at the stage where we're looking at the dump: How do you go about finding out which pieces are for which ? Is there a website to go to in order to make sure we're removing the right thing? Or is it a trial and error kind of process? If I want to extract out the new cotact application from a newer ROM, for example, how do I know what the pieces are?
eaglesteve said:
irus,
This looks like a user friendly tool, but I've a question at the stage where we're looking at the dump: How do you go about finding out which pieces are for which ? Is there a website to go to in order to make sure we're removing the right thing? Or is it a trial and error kind of process? If I want to extract out the new cotact application from a newer ROM, for example, how do I know what the pieces are?
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to me i think the easiest way, if you upgrading the app, is to look and see what files are in the new app and just replace the old. you could make packages but then you have to make a rom folder and xip subfolder and IMO buildos is sometimes picky about reg entries. so the best way is to just replaces the files in the dump folder and then edit the hv and if needed the inflashfiles.dat
This is also in conjuction with eaglesteves previous question.
So I do all of the 'editing' of the ROM in the dump folder right? Second, what if I want to remove entire program, is there an easy to extract 'everything' and its components from the ROM? For instance, what if I want to remove the calculator and put in a freeware calc. do I just remove the calculator folder or is there more to this process?
In the ROM that I'm editing...really just for experiment....I want to remove alot of things and add some, and see if I can put it back together.
I hope this makes since.
Thanks Irus for a good tutorial.
Kenjari
Need help for Exract Bluetooth stack and wireless manager from Taxist V10 rom
Hi
Anyone please help me to extract Bluetooth Stack and the wireless manager from taxist V10 rom.
Just i need to know that which files are needed for Bluetooth Stack and Which files for wireless manager.
I have seen the files in the os.nb but i do not know which files for the bluetooth and wireless.
Thanks in advance.
I downloaded the instructions but for some reason, it can't be read with any of my programs even Microsoft Word.
If I want to extract a particular file off from a WM6.1 RUU_signed.nbh file, which of the included programs should I use?
I tried Scoter Kitchen, but it does not read .nbh files.
NetCF3.5 OEM?
Hi Irus,
I was trying to get an OEM for NETCF3.5 from your FULL ROM using Sogarth kitchen, but with no joy.
Could you suugest any place I could look for it? The same for FTouch?
I have searched the forum, but I found some people saying I can do that. Some said the FUZE has different hardware and cannot be flashed into HTC official firmware. Which is the correct answer?
If I really can, what else should I beware of? Any thing will not work after the flash?
Thanks.
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
crlowryjr said:
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
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I agree with Rob - Why would you want to? Unless say you are modding it to include the front facing camera and want the rom to be able to take advantage of that. Other wise you will have to jump through hoops just to get it to work.
crlowryjr said:
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
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Because the original HTC rom is thoroughly tested and, HTC did make it since they made the hardware i believe they know the best software for it as well.
No offense to the cooks and all but I have not come across a faster, smoother, bug-free rom than the "Asia Build 20764" released on march 16th.
Even though I like the cool look aof the custom roms thereis no competing with the performance of the original HTC roms.
I agree with Stalix. I personally just prefer the official HTC firmware. Apparently, HTC know their hardware and have working with their software in this field for long, they should have a more stable firmware. And I personally hate to see at&t logos in my phone.(does FUZE have those logos?)
Same idea when I install my PC, I would install Microsoft official version not those modded version. They may have bug or viruses due to their experience of modding.
So on the forum what kid of key word means it's official HTC firmware? I have seen hundreds of firmware here.
cpthk said:
I agree with Stalix. I personally just prefer the official HTC firmware. Apparently, HTC know their hardware and have working with their software in this field for long, they should have a more stable firmware. And I personally hate to see at&t logos in my phone.(does FUZE have those logos?)
Same idea when I install my PC, I would install Microsoft official version not those modded version. They may have bug or viruses due to their experience of modding.
So on the forum what kid of key word means it's official HTC firmware? I have seen hundreds of firmware here.
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They also do not turn on certain features. Take a look at all the power management features you can turn on with Advance Config. They skip out on a lot stuff so then they do not have to support it. If you have more things to support then you need a bigger support staff which is more money out the door for them...A ROM (like mine) based on an official release can be much more faster, stable and more enjoyable than a OEM ROM. Look at the TytN II...it can use the YouTube app fine but why do they not include it...
At0mAng said:
Look at the TytN II...
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Let's recall that approx 10 months ago, the big breakthrough in this community for stable reliable 6.1 TytN II ROMs, was the release in May of 6.1 WWE by HTC. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Nothing wrong with checking out (or using) the stock releases...
How can I revert cooked ROMs back to OEM HTC ROM?
thanks
I have done the flash!
Yeah I have done the flash to my fuze and the UK rom is the best way to go. I love the boot screen saying Touch Pro! You will definitely need the keyboard fix as stated earlier. You will need to find a UK serial so you can grab the rom. There is one in the xda archive. Also, get a calculator cab because the stock one is not always the best. They are also on here. When flashing the HTC rom it will take a couple of more minutes than the others. Mine was stuck on 11% for a 2 minutes. But it will complete beautifully. So also It is very stable. Let me know how you like it.
US 3G Effected?
shokouhi said:
Yeah I have done the flash to my fuze and the UK rom is the best way to go. I love the boot screen saying Touch Pro! You will definitely need the keyboard fix as stated earlier. You will need to find a UK serial so you can grab the rom. There is one in the xda archive. Also, get a calculator cab because the stock one is not always the best. They are also on here. When flashing the HTC rom it will take a couple of more minutes than the others. Mine was stuck on 11% for a 2 minutes. But it will complete beautifully. So also It is very stable. Let me know how you like it.
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When you did the UK Rom on your Fuze, did you loose the US 3G settings?
xboomer55 said:
Let's recall that approx 10 months ago, the big breakthrough in this community for stable reliable 6.1 TytN II ROMs, was the release in May of 6.1 WWE by HTC. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Nothing wrong with checking out (or using) the stock releases...
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Yea but you have to also realize that all "cooked ROMs" are based off an official build in the first place.
Take a look at the ROMs available now for the KAISER; they are much better and much improved as developers are able to port updated applications to older devices, improving their performance, and functionality.
If HTC Software was so great, developers wouldnt be looking at other 3D drivers from devices such as the Omnia or the ATI 3D drivers, to improve their devices.
EDIT: To answer the original thread makers question, yes you can flash an HTC ROM to your Fuze provided you have HARDSPL'd your device first. The only thing you would need to change is the keyboard mapping which can be done by a .CAB
atomixpaintball said:
Yea but you have to also realize that all "cooked ROMs" are based off an official build in the first place.
Take a look at the ROMs available now for the KAISER; they are much better and much improved as developers are able to port updated applications to older devices, improving their performance, and functionality.
If HTC Software was so great, developers wouldnt be looking at other 3D drivers from devices such as the Omnia or the ATI 3D drivers, to improve their devices.
EDIT: To answer the original thread makers question, yes you can flash an HTC ROM to your Fuze provided you have HARDSPL'd your device first. The only thing you would need to change is the keyboard mapping which can be done by a .CAB
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This. HTC might "know thier hardware" but that's exactly why you take their official ROM and modify it. Then I have my Fuze settings without running keyboard customization, better apps and tools that aren't in the official ROM, and tweaks to make it even faster. Best of both worlds.
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
paypalbid said:
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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so where would a 'newb' go to find a nice stock rom that isnt cooked? seems like all the roms here are cooked to some extent or another.
No worries with flashing Touch PRO HTC roms or cooked roms on the ATT Fuze
I am currently using WM6.5 for the Touch PRO on an unlocked Fuze with a Canadian 3G provider with ZERO problems !
bobbydsiu said:
so where would a 'newb' go to find a nice stock rom that isnt cooked? seems like all the roms here are cooked to some extent or another.
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go to the Raphael Wiki page and will link you to the proper page for download
3g settings and link!
First off the rom for official download will be found at the following:
www.htc.com/europe
Then you will need the UK S/N code which is as follows:
HT833K018918
This was in the archive much props to who uploaded it however I will repost it as to the fact it was not easy to find. This will give you the UK rom! I love the video that plays at the beginning! It is great with battery life as well! So then grab your fuze keyboard fix and it is as if it were always a touch pro!!
Cheers and enjoy!
Sandman!
paypalbid said:
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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Well it is a ROM DEVELOPMENT forum. Having choices is kinda the point since which ROM to use is personal preference. Personally, since UC works well, I change between them quite a bit.
I have a 20 key Neon 300 that is itching for a new ROM.
Flasher beware!
There are a few ROM's here that I have found to be pretty good. One thing you may want to keep in mind is that once you flash a custom ROM, there is currently no going back. HTC does not offer an upgrade or ship ROM for the NEON 300 US. The best you can hope for at this time is to flash Bills rebuilt ROM. It is still not the original, and any warranty you might have will be void.
Now that said, here is a llist of the ROM's that I am aware of:
HTC Neon200 Build 21046 WWE and RUS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=518975
It's a pretty decent ROM, as long as you don't mind a little Russian in a few of the apps. I don't speak a word of it, but it hasn't been so bad that I won't use it. It has Manila 2D and the customizer built in. Pretty good ROM in my opinion
SETH´s NEON V3 FINAL & V3 LIGHTER
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419892
Pretty basic but stable ROM, it has a few little extras but nothing that takes up a lot of space. I have not used the "Lighter" version, but I can imagine that is is Lighter than the other edition, lol.
Seth actually has two other ROM's as well. I have not used his V1, but his V2 seems to run pretty well.
If any body has flashed a custom ROM, but decided that they wanted their old ROM back, sadly an original ROM is not available. But, if you click on the link in my signature, that ROM is probably as close as you can get. I personally used it for several months and never had any problems with it.
Well, there you go. There are probably more, but these are the only ones I have used.
My issue is with the touch screen slow downs that seem to be corrected with the s600 touch.dll file. But I have tried to install this from some of the other links on this forum but to no avail. It seems to be designed for other phones besides the neon300 or it just needs to be burned into a rom image for it to work on the 300 in particular.
Big Papa, does your rebuilt rom include this? The stock rom is fine in my opinion only because it isn't bloated out like the ATT stuff but this slow down is so annoying. Thanks.
dario69 said:
My issue is with the touch screen slow downs that seem to be corrected with the s600 touch.dll file. But I have tried to install this from some of the other links on this forum but to no avail. It seems to be designed for other phones besides the neon300 or it just needs to be burned into a rom image for it to work on the 300 in particular.
Big Papa, does your rebuilt rom include this? The stock rom is fine in my opinion only because it isn't bloated out like the ATT stuff but this slow down is so annoying. Thanks.
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The rebuild was intended to be as close to possible as the original ROM. It was built from a stock ROM dump with nothing added or changed. It does not have anything like carrier splash screens or other junk that would be on it if you bought it through a regular phone provider. It is pretty light, and works very well if all you want is a very basic ROM. It's pretty much what you would expect if you purchased it directly from HTC.
I'm pretty much just a layman, I am still just barely learning about programming and modding and the only changes I make are if they are fairly simple to understand, with step by step directions. I usually just read through the threads and listen to what other people say about how well things work, or what kind of problems they have been having. When they go into any detail about coding or Reg editting, I tend to get pretty lost.
Thanks for the response Big Papa Rich. And thank you for building this rom. It could be a nice fall back if I mess things up
dario69 said:
Thanks for the response Big Papa Rich. And thank you for building this rom. It could be a nice fall back if I mess things up
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Oh, I didn't build it. That was bill48105. He did all of the work, I just enjoyed it.
Any word on a 6.5 Rom?
trjons said:
Any word on a 6.5 Rom?
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note: make sure you read all posts in this thread. Anyways, you have a choice between WM 6.5 and M2D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482269
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is there anything new preferably with 6.5 and 20 key working?