Hi guys,
Quick newbie question:
I have had an XDA for about 8 months and am interested in the new XDA2, particularly now that O2 has dropped the price to £199.
My question is; Does the majority of XDA software work on the XDA2? I ask because I have installed a lot of software on my XDA (ie TomTom2, PocketTV player, Program/Battery Pack, Acrobat Reader, games and many more) and it would all seem a waste if I couldn't install these on the XDA2.
Many thanx
Munkee
xda2 use intel xcale and xda1 use intel arm cpu they are codecompatible
so unless it's software written specialy for special hardware which is not directly cpu related
it should work just like software from ipaq's works on both systems aswell
the issue however is that not all programs written for ppc2002 works on ppc2003
pda's are much like pc's when it comes to the fact that software written for one brand of pda works on all other pdas using the same OS, (though it may have to be recompiled if the other PDA use another cpu like mips or some other which is not code compatible with the cpu of xda1 and 2)
Thanks for the reply, Rudegard.
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On the advice of some people here, I bought a Targus IR keyboard, and was disappointed to see it doesn't work right on WM 2003. I put it on my i-mate, no luck (it actually repeatedly soft-reset my i-mate), then on my old T-Mobile Pocket PC, and it doesn't work (WM 2003, 4.0.5), downgraded my T-mo back to 3.14 and it works fine.
Does anyone else have one of these working on WM 2003?
Yes. See review here:
www.pocketpcpassion.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5baac79508d015f527076ef2322a2efe&threadid=36437
still searching
The review really didn't tell me anything new.. i'm still looking for a way to get this thing working on the XDA or XDA II with Windows Mobile 2003.
Jon.
Targus won't work with my XDA
I have bought a Targus Universal wireless keyboard on the strength of people on this forum saying it works.
I can not get it to work with my XDA I. I tried the latest driver from targus. I even got rid of my custom cooked ROM and put a standard O2 UK ROM on.
When I enable the keyboard my XDA slows down so much it becomes unuseable. If I tap for the start menu it takes about 5 seconds to appear and everything else is just as slow. The XDA does not register anything if I press any keys on the keyboard. Even if I then use the program to disable the keyboard my XDA is to slow to use unitl I do a reset.
Can anyone help as I really don't want to have to try and return the keyboard.
Thanks
Stuart
That slowing down feature is the same as when you try to choose the irda port when using tomtom, I understand its to do with the xda not setting up a virtual port and addressing the port direct, I am no expert and have asked numerous questions about the irda port on xda but never got any answers, on the ipaq the irda shows up as "generic irda" and works great, however on xda it shows as "infrared port" or similar, when a program attempts to acces it the slow down/crash happens.
anyone can advise on less bulky keyboard for XDA I ....
(in ideal world I would additionally say) that works on WM2003
any ideas ??
regards, monika
Targus IR Keyboard with XDA1 + ROM 2002 NOT OK (Different Rom Versions)
Targus IR Keyboard with XDA2 + ROM 2003 NOT OK (Different ROM Versions)
Targus IR Keyboard with XDA1 + ROM 2003 OK. Tested by me with latest Tmobile RUU 4.01.00 and IRKeybd Driver Ver 1.25
thanx for the clarification but can you advise also on .....
something in terms of keyboard that is smaller that is working on WM2003 pls ???
regards
monika
As for the IR keyboard, I only tested Targus, which is somewhat bulky, as you say, but works with XDA 1 and WM2003 (Latest ROM version T-Mobile 4.01.00)
As for standard keyboard (with normal XDA connector, not IR) I have tested the G7B0 which is much slimmer and had no problems at all. It also has a plus: you can charge your XDA while connected to the keyboard with your normal standard charger and the keyboard itself does not need batteries, like the IR ones.
As for the Minus, compared to the Targus one, you will be missing: the emulated mouse, but then..., you are asking for a keyboard, not a mouse
thank you for your input
I might consider give it a try
regards, monika
I upgraded to the latest 4.01.00 ROM and indeed the Targus keyboard now works like a dream.
I had put of upgrading to WM2003 as I tried a while back and could not get GPRS working (O2 UK). This time I have managed to get it working but it does seem slower don't know why.
Thanks for your help
Stuart
you're most welcome :wink:
I have a certain program that works fine on all of my other work related PDA's (PPC 6700, XV 6700, Old as dirt Toshiba E310).
I tried it on the plain jane WM5 rom and even upgraded to a WM6 version yet no dice.
My question is:
Is there a possibility that because of the different processor type (Intel versus the 8525's) it may not work?
Thanks for anything you may be able to share!
Would you happen to know the name of this "certain program"?
I guess your program was written for WinCe / Windows Mobile 2003 devices, that is why it won't work on a WM5 / WM6 device. The API in the newer devices is quite different!
Solution:
try to find a newer, up-to-date, equal application ...
Well, I am pretty certain that the program was written for WM2003, but the program works for WM2002, WM2003, WM5, and WM6 on other devices.
Any thoughts?
**Removed program name**
I work for the company, so its not pirated per say, and its used for work purposes, but not on the intended device (which is WM5 btw)
OK I made a quick search in the forum and didn't find anything which is quite a surprise...
I came along with this...
http://www.linpus.com/xampp/webmaster/Products/Linux9.4Lite.htm
Its inside the hardware limitations of Athena and could be running from the miniSD or the microDRIVE.
3G/EDGE, WIFI, Bluetooth, GPS all supported
For all of us using the Athena as laptop/replacement or just have another cellphone for actual phone calls maybe is the best news out there...
It might also support phone calls I don't know!
Also optimized for 4~7 inches screens... WTF???
I don't have the nerves to tested right now as I'm on a trip
Anyone knows more about this???!!!???
Hm...listen nice.
But i will wait, untill you will finish your trip. Then you can test it.
Thx for the informations.
wow that is cool. i would love to do this. but i would have to go back to using my kaiser ) i might give ti a try.
ummm... guys - a quick check reveals that it needs an Intel CPU and 128MB RAM - two things that the Athena doesn't have...
If you take a look at the wiki it looks like we do have the neccesary hardware.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
It shows us having an Intel processor and 128 mb of ram.
MWillis561 said:
If you take a look at the wiki it looks like we do have the neccesary hardware.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Athena
It shows us having an Intel processor and 128 mb of ram.
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I got all hot and excited by this thread but the above statment was correct you will find that the Athena doesn't have the required cpu
although you are correct it's an Intel Xscale, the Xscale cpu is based on ARM instruction sets not x86
Quote from website:
SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
CPU
Intel x86 compatible
Intel, AMD and VIA at 366MHz and up
this alone bombs the thought of this linux flavor on the athena.
I agree it's possible to a limited degree i've seen other threads about this idea and the such as qtopia, Opie and similar will run their basic functions on the athena, it wouldnt' support the gsm radio or many other chips already in the athena due to a lack of development specs that haven't been worked out.
I'll never profess to be an expert in linux even though i consider my self as an average user. But i don't know how to develop or program applications in full but i know enough from my old tinkering days that the instruction set of the cpu rules alot
good thinking though =)
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It shows us having an Intel processor and 128 mb of ram.
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The athena hardware is documented here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=AthenaResearch
This may sound stupid,but....
Is it possible to boot Athena form any USB pheriperal such as a stick or a cd-rom ?
safak said:
Is it possible to boot Athena form any USB pheriperal such as a stick or a cd-rom ?
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Yes. I'm running qtopia compiled for Universal off the USB stick, and the touchscreen is supported too.
It's also possible to attach the USB keyboard and mouse at the same time,
but then you'd use the external USB hub.
I've bought the USB host adapter exactly for that purpose.
The complete code can be dowloaded from the handhelds.org CVS
(including the ATI SD test driver, which does not work yet)
What about the new Athena that is going to come out?
Would it be able to support this linux platform ? or is the new Athena will be ARM based too?
Thanks
marek101 said:
What about the new Athena that is going to come out?
Would it be able to support this linux platform ? or is the new Athena will be ARM based too?
Thanks
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The new Athena is practically the same aside from its cosmetic changes, software developments and the 16gb drive
Is this even possible? I think that device has a potential. It's the crappy software that is preventing me from purchasing it. It would be nice if someone developed true android ports for those cheap Chinese mobile phones so poor college students like myself who do not wish to be locked to a contract can get a cheap phones. I finally found that the Airphone has a processor with the following specs:
Mtek MT6235 ARM9 core, 208MHz Speed CPU
I read somewhere that Android needs at least 200mhz to run, so this processor should be able to support it, right? I am interested in getting into the mobile hacking scene for Android, but I do not know where to begin. If I purchased this mobile phone (its cheap, I can get it for 89$) which tools would I require to begin hacking it?
Yes, I know this mobile phone does not have 3G, but I have no use for that technology on a phone because I have other means of accessing the internet. I like this mobile because it is very very slim, about the same size as my ipod touch. I know so many other people would purchase this phone if it had android instead of the sucky iPhoney OS.
Many thanks!
So many views yet no replies. Do you think I would have better luck asking this in the Official Google Android developer forum? Or is this type of chinese technology as unknown and elusive as I figured it would be?
if the mtek run winmobile
you can try to start android whit haret
i think that the cpu is the same of htc opal(omap 850)
look here
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/wing-linux/wiki
It doesnt run windows mobile unfortunately. It runs a weird OS called "MTK OS", which apparently is a modified version of Nucleus OS.
Hey thanks for your responses! I will take this to the Official Google Android Forum.
Looking to for something like Airphones
I want to play the video on my pc monitor
and steam the audio of this video on my android phone to listen with headphones
linux port
Hello,
some russian guys made a linux port to MT6235 (Google: Linux'у на MT6235 быть (инструкция прилагается))
Starting an Android kernel would be trivial, but RAM is not enough, so Android on MT6235 is useless.
Hi I am not a developer or anything and I realise this site is more for those types so sorry if this is in appropriate.
Bascally I got the tytn I to play around a bit with roms ad learning an=bout developing. I want to try and get some emulators working on it but they all seem to be made for windows 2003, so obviously they either do not work or are jus very bad. I tried:
Picodrive
pocket genesis
morphgear
pocket snes 1.5
dosbox 073 arm
Will I need to downgrade the rom a lot to get this stuff going or is there another version that is known to work better with these older apps?
Thank you for your patience.
D
tried downgrading from mobile vista 6.5 seadragon
to Pays WWE final Full which is 6.1
Not really much difference in performance of the emulators so I guess I would have to go WAY back to something that would work with these emulators. Is it even possible to get windows 2003 on the hermes?!? Would I even want it will my phone be pretty much useless as far as being compatible with things like Activesync and Outlook?
Thank for your time
Disease8 said:
Hi I am not a developer or anything and I realise this site is more for those types so sorry if this is in appropriate.
Bascally I got the tytn I to play around a bit with roms ad learning an=bout developing. I want to try and get some emulators working on it but they all seem to be made for windows 2003, so obviously they either do not work or are jus very bad. I tried:
Picodrive
pocket genesis
morphgear
pocket snes 1.5
dosbox 073 arm
Will I need to downgrade the rom a lot to get this stuff going or is there another version that is known to work better with these older apps?
Thank you for your patience.
D
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you're wrong! emulators actually getting to work on windows upper windows 2003
I think, you just do not realize the requirements for the emulator to work on your device