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I'm quite happy with my Folio now that it's running FolioMod, however, my biggest remaining concern is the screen. The viewing angle is pretty lousy, so I've started looking into possibilities of changing screen.
What do you hardware hackers say? Is there any good replacement screen out there that would fit and that also would work with existing drivers and so on?
interesting question!!
let see what hardware gurus says
But is it possible to buy a screen that it worth it (good and not to expensive) ? I had a quick look on the web, it seems that the only IPS screen that can be easily found is the iPad one.
Hello XDA,
I've searched around for this problem a bit, and it seems this issue hasn't been brought up anywhere. If it has, then I apologize.
The S2 has an awesome display with great colors, blacks included, but I noticed this issue one night when I was watching a film on my S2. When the display is showing black/dark images you can clearly see what appears to be glue smudges all over the screen, especially along the rims. It is only noticeable when there's little to no other light in the surrounding environement. Increasing brightness seem to worsen the problem.
It is hard to describe and very difficult to capture on camera but I made an attempt. I can't post links yet it seems but here's an imageshack url:
img842.imageshack.us/img842/5420/blotches.jpg
The image was taken with a Canon 450D with 20 sec exposure (hard to focus when it's that dark I'll tell you). Edited slightly in photoshop to cut down the size.
Here you can see the general color of the screen (gray-ish) and some of the blotches of (what I'm guessing is) glue in the back. If I had to guess I suspect the blotches might come from the capacitive touch layer of the screen. Is this an issue or is it to be expected on phones like these? It's not a major problem but it's actually quite annoying when you're watching a film/youtube clip/playing a generally dark game or whatever. Should I return my device? I've used it for just about a week and a half.
Thanks in advance for any help.
i have this too, its the AMOLED display. you can turn the screen off and on and you'll see it go off n on. not the sgs, but amoleds generally. my omnia HD had this too (1st gen AMOLED)
the blacks are not 100% black i say
Im having this too, nothing to worry about this as it doesnt disturb the beautiful display of this mobile.
I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
stnel said:
I bought this phone 2 days ago, new, sealed, free from contract, and so far I love everything about it, except for this problem which I have found only today. I guess It was all the first excitement keeping me to notice earlier.
Like the thread's title says, it's like a perfect pattern across the screen, from edge to edge, consisting in perfect parallel 10-degrees-from-horizontal-oblique stripes. They are very very subtle and only visible on light backgrounds and more from looking from the upper part of the screen down.
Do not confuse them with the pixels matrix, whose density, by the way, is great. They are all right, and the effect described above seems to appear on a layer which is on top of those pixels.
To make an almost perfect comparison, this effect looks almost like the striped background from market.android.com (as seen on a computer), but with more subtle greish on white stripes inclined from right to left, and only like 10 degrees oblique from the horizontal. That is what's making me curious, why is that pattern oblique? If it were straight horizontals or verticals I would have confused them with the pixels arrays, and it would have been bearable. But like they are I can't stop but notice this pattern every time and it annoys me a lot! In GMail, Browser etc... all the apps with plain backgrounds...
It wouldn't appear on any close picture I tried to take, and I guess filming for you to see it isn't a good idea either, because you won't notice it. It's only visible with the naked eye, at a distance closer than 30 cm from the screen. It isn't also a problem of my eyes, because my wife is noticing it too.
Thank for any shared thought.
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Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
kirbygonzalo said:
Much better to send you're mobile to the store were you bought it. because as what i have know the problem is the LCD. that is what they called wire stripe or ribbon.... maybe that is the problem. Try it, there is noting to lose.....
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kirbygonzalo, thanks but even googling it I couldn't find anything about wire stripe or ribbon.
sdk16420 said:
I see that too, only on light (white) backgrounds. I thinks it's normal, you may ask your local Sony Ericsson customer service or a phone shop, but I don't think this is a production fault.
On a dark blackground it is purely invisible.
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sdk16420, thanks for sharing this, It is somehow a relief for me to know I'm not alone in this. Yet, I'll wait until next week to see if I can find more explanations, and then maybe I'll return it for a replace. It's especially bad for me, as I waited a lot to receive the silver one (a week or so), and I don't know if I can find another.
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Try it with and without the Bravia engine enabled.
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It doesn't depend on Bravia Engine, unfortunately. It was also the first thing that came into my mind, tried it several times, even with deactivating and rebooting, but the effect is persistent.
Again, it's only visible on light backgrounds, especially white and large ones (browser, gmail, etc). If you read this, please check yours also find some time to post a reply with the result. I would be very grateful.
Thanks!
I have the blue model but i can barely see that pattern with a screen flashlight (on full white) and i don't find it annoying at all in daily use of the phone.
You can check the screen from a new phone in a shop, to see if it looks like yours ... or you have a eagle eye
PS
check softpedia also
I think I can see what you're talking about on my Red Neo but only if I max the screen brightness and look really closesly (like practically inserting the Neo into my eye). 99.99% of the time I don't notice a thing.
I just followed your description and found the same with my neo, so I think it the LCD design. Not an issue to me indeed.
Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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Does anyone have another phone model (e.g. Samsung, HTC) with a LCD touchscreen? Is it also visible on other phones?
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I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
stnel said:
I have a Samsung Galaxy S with SAMOLED, a HTC Desire with S-LCD and an Asus Transformer with IPS LCD, and they all have better screens. The Desire's is the most problem free, whereas the Galaxy S has problems with screen burn-in (or image retention, like some are identifying it, but for me it's still like the old good plasma screen burn-in ), and the Transformer's has light bleeding. But, like I said, when put aside, the Neo's looks the worst.
I don't know if you noticed it already, but it comes with another "feature" that is so annoying: it stays always on auto brightness regardless of the custom level set, maxing that automation on that custom level. It's so annoying, cause it's always too dark for me, and being a "feature" it doesn't have also a switch for that. At least it has for Bravia....
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When I put brightness on 100%, and hold my finger on the light sensor, I don't see the screen getting darker. What does annoy me is that you can't make the brightness less than about 30%. I use widgetsoid for brightness adjustment, and the screen will only become darker than 30% if I hold my finger on top of the sensor. That sucks. I I want to sacve energy, I have to hold my hand there, while using the phone.
I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I don't see why people need the brightness that high anyways, aside from in some games with small hard to see details I'm perfectly fine with my brightness set at just 30% or even just 20%...heck I can still use the phone when the brightness is completely off though that does get a little hard to see everything.
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I use it a lot outside, and its sunlight legibility isn't as good as SAMOLEDs or others, but that I knew from reviews before the buy. If it wasn't for the problem in this thread, I wouldn't be so harsh on it.
LE I se new posters here. Do you noticed the problem described in the first post? Does it bother you?
Hi all,
I'm comparing the screen colors of Sony Tablet S with same images or web pages with (for example) an "old" HTC HD2. Sony Tablet S colors are more pale, washed-out, faded. I also compared with samsung tablet.
I expected something more from sony.
Screen is all in a tablet.
Also brightness is lower (i have also removed the protection screen.
Which is your opinion?
maxiclo said:
Hi all,
I'm comparing the screen colors of Sony Tablet S with same images or web pages with (for example) an "old" HTC HD2. Sony Tablet S colors are more pale, washed-out, faded. I also compared with samsung tablet.
I expected something more from sony.
Screen is all in a tablet.
Also brightness is lower (i have also removed the protection screen.
Which is your opinion?
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The brightness is lower but a better light, because of the blacklight stuff it will
prevent sunlight to make your screen dark, you can use you tablet outside,
with Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 your screen goes almost black you can't see a
thing with the Sony Tablet S you can,
The worst part of the tablet is the sides, trying to pull out an sd it will, but its
hard, the sloppy plastic thing that must protect the usb and sd port for dust,
very dissapointing, easiest way is to cut it off the tablet but thats ugly so you
wont do something like that also the plastic on the back, not quite beautifull,
and yes the screen, it issn't made of gorilla glass so it is easy to break it, there
are a few points where other tablets has there better stuff, but about the
screen light, its allot more usefull outside then other tabs
Standard message xD > Dont mind my english
Mahaco said:
The brightness is lower but a better light, because of the blacklight stuff it will
prevent sunlight to make your screen dark, you can use you tablet outside,
with Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 your screen goes almost black you can't see a
thing with the Sony Tablet S you can,
The worst part of the tablet is the sides, trying to pull out an sd it will, but its
hard, the sloppy plastic thing that must protect the usb and sd port for dust,
very dissapointing, easiest way is to cut it off the tablet but thats ugly so you
wont do something like that also the plastic on the back, not quite beautifull,
and yes the screen, it issn't made of gorilla glass so it is easy to break it, there
are a few points where other tablets has there better stuff, but about the
screen light, its allot more usefull outside then other tabs
Standard message xD > Dont mind my english
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Thanks for feedback. Mostly I'm disappointed with colors gamut...
you might want to check this thread for some improvements
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501144
I've actually been really rather impressed with my Sony's screen in terms of colors, contrast and clarity, so I'm not sure if you perhaps have a dodgy unit. The brightness is certainly lower than the Samsung, but in my opinion the TruBlack display on the Sony is definitely clearer and has better colours than the Galaxy Tab. Just my 2 cents, naturally.
agc93 said:
I've actually been really rather impressed with my Sony's screen in terms of colors, contrast and clarity, so I'm not sure if you perhaps have a dodgy unit. The brightness is certainly lower than the Samsung, but in my opinion the TruBlack display on the Sony is definitely clearer and has better colours than the Galaxy Tab. Just my 2 cents, naturally.
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Yeah thats what i meant xD Trublack, forgotten that specific name
Hello XDA, not much of a poster around here, though a very frequent lurker
After having HTC Desire for more than 2 years, I'm finally looking forward to buying myself a brand new HTC One X+, but something caught my eye recently on the internet as I oggled for any information regarding the device. It appears than the improved "+" version uses a slightly different panel, perhaps from another manufacturer?
So far, I've found two links describing this problem, but am unable to post them as of yet because of a 10 post requirement.
The first one is on a site tweakers .net, you should be able to find the page by searching for the HTC One X+ review - look for page 4/8 of the review. Beware though, the site is in Dutch language. The tests done there clearly show the differences in brightness, dark values and color temperatures.
The other one is a Youtube video, search for "HTC One X+ vs. HTC One X" video on Pocketnowvideo channel. The difference in brightness is pretty visible.
It would be much easier if someone could post direct links to those pages.
Another curious thing that may be linked to this issue: about a week ago I went to a store to once again check out the regular One X (having done that previously quite a few times during this year), and I couldn't shake the impression that the screen on that particular model was also darker than I could remember previously. I dug through the options to see if something was affecting the brightness - it was set at max, and no power saving mode was activated as far as could tell (though not sure if ICS version of SENSE even has that option). Strange, 'cause I was hugely impressed by the screen previously, and thought it was the best I've ever seen on a mobile device. Perhaps it was the model also using a panel from different manufacturer? Not sure.
I'd be very happy to hear thoughts and personal experiences regarding the screen from you guys! I won't be getting this device for at least another month, so I'm not in a huge hurry, though any info would be quite helpful. Also, any information on this thread may be of benefit to many potential buyers of this device.
Thanks in advance!
Tweakers.net's analysis on brightness
Pocketnow's video:
About the Hue, some iPhone 4/4S screens look bluish, some look yellowish, although they have about the same max brightness. I have personally compared iPhone 4/4S screens a few times before. May be a supplier issue.
Thanks for posting direct links, much appreciated!
I hope what you say holds true to One X+ series.. at least I might "win" a unit with quality display by lottery lol.
If all units end up with darker displays however.. I might not buy it after all, time will tell I guess. I'm eager to see what others will have to say about it.
According to recently posted GSMArena review, the situation might not be as dim (obvious pun intended) after all
The screen indeed apears a bit dimmer, though it doesn't seem as a huge letdown, and it looks like it provides a slight better contrast ratio.
I thought I was the only one who has noticed this. The one x plus has a dimmer screen and the blacks are not as dark as the original one x. There is also that bluish tint. When viewed side by side the one x screen looks a lot better than the one x+. Question is why would HTC change something that's not broken. Why not just maintain the original one x screen ?
My logical guess is that HTC didn't change the display because they thought it was bad, but that it has more to do with their relationship with suppliers. Unlike Samsung and LG for instance, they do not possess productional capacity for making their own displays, instead they depend on making deals with other suppliers, and quite often those suppliers end up being their direct competitors in a smartphone market, which puts HTC at a disadvantage. Often, a supplier cannot meet productional demands for all regions, so they end up depending on a multitude of them to fill those gaps. The fact that the One X ended up with such a quality display at all was a major achievement on their part in my opinion, considering their position. Whatever happened with the original suppliers of One X display panels can be anyone's guess.
EDIT: one wild guess could be that maybe they opted for a dimmer display to conserve their not so great battery life, but I'd say it's a stretch.
Probably had deeper blacks, but in return the max white brightness isn't as good.
According to gsmarena, at 100%, whites are not as bright, but blacks are much darker too, resulting in higher contrast.
Thus, I assume display is better and eats less power... but that's only a guess, as I never owned the one x.
Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2
Has anyone directly compared in person? the screen is one of the highlights of the one x and it will be a shame if the brilliant screen was ruined. thanks
Reviewers are still lauding it's display as superb and one of the best. According to GSMArena, blacks appear a bit darker when at 100% brightness.
What remains to be seen is what users will have to say about it.