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I've been happily using my XDA for almost a year now, the only complaint being the amount i spend on the GPRS though O2.
What are the other UK networks charging these days? I've heard about others charging as little as £10 for 100MB's, is this true?
I'm about to come to the end of my contract and will be getting an XDA II as soon as it does but i may well get it sim-free and go with another network.
Do i have other options i.e. sticking in a pay-as-you-go sim from another network when i want to use it heavily?
Thanks for your help.
i think the problem may be when you dont say where you are from
the only company's which people can be sure are represented most places are fodaphone, tmobile, o2 and orange and maybe a few others
and those are rearely the cheap ones
oop's sorry. I'm in the UK
t-mobile in usa - $19 a month - unlimited gprs
(not that that would help you 2000+ miles away)
-Mario
mario,
how do you find the gprs speed thru tmobile?
they say its 40k-80k
but i dont think thats true... it takes me too long to download a small 500k file. unless im doin something wrong!
do u have special settings?
to find the actual speed, i have no idea
the only settings i have, is for the gprs setting, it connects to internet2.voicestream.com
speed is up and down usually, right near a atenna (like near a mall or what not) perfect speed.
at work is another question... with 1 bar of signal i can stream 22k mp3s from di.fm (requires ipv6 which tmobile or ie for pocket pc comes with, cause it works)
work is a office full of computers, in a big brick building... signal is allways bad indoors.
-Mario
Anyone use tethering to download too much data and had repercussions from T-Mobile? I'm just wondering if/how much I should limit my bandwidth use. Use tethering frequently on the train and such.
After 5gb of data you will likely get throttled to EDGE-only speed. You will receive a message from TMO if this happens. If you are just checking email, chat, facebook, etc it is highly unlikely you will kill your 5gb.
I just recieved the text message yesterday and I have to say the speed that they throttle you down to renederd my laptop practically useless. Even just trying to log into Yahoo my browser timed out. Just FYI.
How much bandwidth did you use? I was up to 2.3 gigabyte last month.
KerryG said:
After 5gb of data you will likely get throttled to EDGE-only speed. You will receive a message from TMO if this happens. If you are just checking email, chat, facebook, etc it is highly unlikely you will kill your 5gb.
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its not even EDGE speeds. more like a little bit better than GPRS speeds around 50-59kbps. my edge speeds is almost triple this and my 3g speeds peak at 5.3mbps at night and 3-4mbps during day
to OP- Tmobile used to allows 10GB of bandwidth but now its cut to half to 5GB which can be easily used up by tethering,but then again tethering using USB in settings, MobileAP, or an app like EasyTether and PDAnet is not covered in the contract and actually goes against the terms of use
Of course, most probably already know tethering is expressly forbidden by the terms and conditions for most (if not all) contracts with TMO. While they've cast a blind eye to in the past, this is changing.
Beginning Nov 3, TMO will offer a $15 Tethering option which is less expensive than other carriers. Each activated IMEI (phone serial) will get no more than one IP address. All tethered data will count toward your 5GB monthly limit. Like other carriers, your monthly data cap doesn't increase just because you pay more. Unlike other carriers though, you will NOT be charged overage fees unless perhaps you somehow manage to tether without a proper plan in place.
The DHCP pool which currently assigns / allows acquiring of the additional addresses for any tethered devices that you may be using will be limited to just "one" address. In order to tether after this change, you'll require a minimum of 2 IP addresses. This limitation will only be officially lifted upon adding a monthly paid tethering plan to your account. Being rooted or on an unoffical rom likely won't change this as it'll all be controlled by the TMO's network hardware which is out of our reach.
Update to reply to the post by 2000nits below...
That assumes that TMO won't modify the normal operation it's APN gateway to prevent Private DHCP then tethering as we know it might not be possible. Then, you'd be forced to get your addresses from their DHCP server alone.
Yeap . this is a sad sad day for tmob...
I am going to look for a better carrier ./ option
I can get Virgin mobile wifi unlimited , and someone else cheaper for the phone
You think they will send a notice to all users with a 'Change of Terms' letter enclosed???
Also, does anyone know how to monitor my usage?? How do I know how much data I've transfered thus far in my billing cycle??
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You think they will send a notice to all users with a 'Change of Terms' letter enclosed???
Also, does anyone know how to monitor my usage?? How do I know how much data I've transfered thus far in my billing cycle??
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You can monitor usage with netcounter in market. Free and I have been using it since g1.
epakrat75 said:
Of course, most probably already know tethering is expressly forbidden by the terms and conditions for most (if not all) contracts with TMO. While they've cast a blind eye to in the past, this is changing.
Beginning Nov 3, TMO will offer a $15 Tethering option which is less expensive than other carriers. Each activated IMEI (phone serial) will get no more than one IP address. All tethered data will count toward your 5GB monthly limit. Like other carriers, your monthly data cap doesn't increase just because you pay more. Unlike other carriers though, you will NOT be charged overage fees unless perhaps you somehow manage to tether without a proper plan in place.
The DHCP pool which currently assigns / allows acquiring of the additional addresses for any tethered devices that you may be using will be limited to just "one" address. In order to tether after this change, you'll require a minimum of 2 IP addresses. This limitation will only be officially lifted upon adding a monthly paid tethering plan to your account. Being rooted or on an unoffical rom likely won't change this as it'll all be controlled by the TMO's network hardware which is out of our reach.
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As long as tethering still works like it did with usb tethering on cyanogen roms we do not get 2 ips from the carrier. Your phone gets 1 ip address from carrier and then acts as a router giving you private ip addresses that your carrier does not see. Same as you home ISP does not give out multiple ip addresses if you have multiple PCs at home conneted to a router.
Conclusion: Pay tmo $15/mo extra or root and do it for free (at your own risk). I have done it since the g1 days but very rarely, never had a prob.
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2000nits said:
As long as tethering still works like it did with usb tethering on cyanogen roms we do not get 2 ips from the carrier. Your phone gets 1 ip address from carrier and then acts as a router giving you private ip addresses that your carrier does not see. Same as you home ISP does not give out multiple ip addresses if you have multiple PCs at home conneted to a router.
Conclusion: Pay tmo $15/mo extra or root and do it for free (at your own risk). I have done it since the g1 days but very rarely, never had a prob.
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^ This. I don't see how t mobile could track that you are tethering. Your phone requests the data, than transfers the data to the device you are tethering just like a router. The "outside world" only ever sees your router, or phone in this case. Unless I am misunderstanding the way tethering works.
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AFAIK, an APN is required for tethering to work. The carrier controls this. Without APN access and one that plays nice with tethering apps, tethering may become impossible with existing tethering / wifi router apps?
Tethering Via Kies or Tethering Via Dial-Up Connection
Currently you can easily tether via Samsung Kies or by creating a dial-up connection. How will these two options change?
How would T-Mo know you are tethering via keys or dial-up connection?
I do have Kies and I've set up dial-up tethering, it works, however I have internet everywhere I go, so I never have really tethered other than just testing to see if it works. I think it is a shame though, people who abused tethering kinda ruined it for everyone. Now if you need to tether in an emergency, which in my case would be maybe like once a year or something, now the option is closed to everyone? Maybe they can create an emergency tethering plan. You pay for the 1 time you need to tether. I dunno.
*dial-up isn't really dial-up in the sense you may be thinking like in the old modem dial up days.
Hi, I have a few questions about using the One on T-Mobile as its been a few years since I left T-Mobile. Thanks in advance!
As far the WiFi calling feature or UMA service goes it will only work on T-Mobile's official version is that correct? I was told the dev edition will work on T-mobile but it won't be able to use wifi calling or Hspa+
What plans have this WiFi calling feature? Is it limited to postpaid plans only or can I use that $30 5GB data plan and still have the WiFi calling feature?
If I understand correctly, the WiFi calling will allow me to use my T-Mobile number abroad to make and receive calls as if in still in the United States as long I am connected to a wifi network right? That would be great since I plan to travel abroad for a few months and it would be very convenient if I didn't have give all my contacts a new phone number every couple weeks or so.
The final question is if I go with the new uncarrier plan and buy the HTC One for $99 will they unlock the phone for me so I can use it abroad before the phone is paid off? I am not sure with their uncarrier strategy if they will force you to pay your phone off completely before they unlock it for you. I am unsure but I think before they were unlocking phones after the remorse period and you are locked into contract.
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Hi, I have a few questions about using the One on T-Mobile as its been a few years since I left T-Mobile. Thanks in advance!
As far the WiFi calling feature or UMA service goes it will only work on T-Mobile's official version is that correct? I was told the dev edition will work on T-mobile but it won't be able to use wifi calling or Hspa+
What plans have this WiFi calling feature? Is it limited to postpaid plans only or can I use that $30 5GB data plan and still have the WiFi calling feature?
If I understand correctly, the WiFi calling will allow me to use my T-Mobile number abroad to make and receive calls as if in still in the United States as long I am connected to a wifi network right? That would be great since I plan to travel abroad for a few months and it would be very convenient if I didn't have give all my contacts a new phone number every couple weeks or so.
The final question is if I go with the new uncarrier plan and buy the HTC One for $99 will they unlock the phone for me so I can use it abroad before the phone is paid off? I am not sure with their uncarrier strategy if they will force you to pay your phone off completely before they unlock it for you. I am unsure but I think before they were unlocking phones after the remorse period and you are locked into contract.
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1. Yes.
2. I think it is included on all plans, but I'm not sure.
3. Not sure, but be aware that many hotels overseas charge for WiFi (still cheaper than calling).
4. You have to pay off the phone before they will unlock it.
To expand on the wifi calling question...If youre connected to wifi anywhere in the world, you can call anywhere in the US (assuming your 911 address is in the US) for free. Calling outside the US will result in standard TMo long distance charges. So if youre in Brazil connected to wifi, calling a Brazil number would carry the same charges as if you were calling from the US.
I have used wifi calling in 3 different countries and know this to be true. One other thing to mention, depending on where youre going, the wifi in many hotels I was in was sketchy at best. Not the best for wifi calling.
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To expand on the wifi calling question...If youre connected to wifi anywhere in the world, you can call anywhere in the US (assuming your 911 address is in the US) for free. Calling outside the US will result in standard TMo long distance charges. So if youre in Brazil connected to wifi, calling a Brazil number would carry the same charges as if you were calling from the US.
I have used wifi calling in 3 different countries and know this to be true. One other thing to mention, depending on where youre going, the wifi in many hotels I was in was sketchy at best. Not the best for wifi calling.
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Great info!
blackangst said:
To expand on the wifi calling question...If youre connected to wifi anywhere in the world, you can call anywhere in the US (assuming your 911 address is in the US) for free. Calling outside the US will result in standard TMo long distance charges. So if youre in Brazil connected to wifi, calling a Brazil number would carry the same charges as if you were calling from the US.
I have used wifi calling in 3 different countries and know this to be true. One other thing to mention, depending on where youre going, the wifi in many hotels I was in was sketchy at best. Not the best for wifi calling.
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Thanks! Yes, my main need is to stay connected with the US as I'll be using Skype unlimited world to make calls in the current area I'm in. As long as I can use my phone as if it is still in the States I'm a happy camper. Also I really want to know if the $30 5GB prepaid plan support this feature as I feel that the $50 uncarrier plan is a bit excessive since I will not be using my phone in the states.
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I work for a tmo store.
Yes the prepaid will for WiFi calling BUT unlike a postpaid plan, it will still use your minutes.
On a postpaid plan WiFi calling does not subtract from your minutes
Prepaid the WiFi calling still works but it will subtract from your minutes still
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I work for a tmo store.
Yes the prepaid will for WiFi calling BUT unlike a postpaid plan, it will still use your minutes.
On a postpaid plan WiFi calling does not subtract from your minutes
Prepaid the WiFi calling still works but it will subtract from your minutes still
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Thank you! that is the information I needed.:highfive:
one of the roms in the international forum has included wifi calling for tmobile users. i think either trickdroid or renovate
We just spent 2 weeks in China and received all texts and phone calls while using the hotels free wifi, it is one of the greatest features that Tmobile has. Calls were mostly clear with occasional drops, we were using a stock note 2.
Hi all,
I'm vacationing with my family to Disney Paris and T-Mobile has a nifty feature of unlimited data and texting in foreign countries included in my plan.
Awesome!
Unfortunately the data is only 2G. Makes it impossible to use GPS. Surf the web or send pictures attached to a text.
Is there a mod that can bump that back up to 4G?
Thanks,
NJ
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njdevils28 said:
Hi all,
I'm vacationing with my family to Disney Paris and T-Mobile has a nifty feature of unlimited data and texting in foreign countries included in my plan.
Awesome!
Unfortunately the data is only 2G. Makes it impossible to use GPS. Surf the web or send pictures attached to a text.
Is there a mod that can bump that back up to 4G?
Thanks,
NJ
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That's the reason why it's free
GPS should work fine though. You can pay to get 4G data, but it's so expensive for so little data, I wouldn't bother. Try looking for free wifi hotspots.
njdevils28 said:
Hi all,
I'm vacationing with my family to Disney Paris and T-Mobile has a nifty feature of unlimited data and texting in foreign countries included in my plan.
Awesome!
Unfortunately the data is only 2G. Makes it impossible to use GPS. Surf the web or send pictures attached to a text.
Is there a mod that can bump that back up to 4G?
Thanks,
NJ
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Go to your T-mobile account and buy a one week 200 MB data for $25 (or 2 weeks 500 MB for $50). This is fast data, the free one is 2G only.
The best data prices when traveling abroad usually entail getting a local SIM card. Prepaid or sometimes a regular (cancel anytime) plan. For example, the last time that I looked SFR France had a 1 GB data plan (3G+) for 8 Euro.
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The best data prices when traveling abroad usually entail getting a local SIM card. Prepaid or sometimes a regular (cancel anytime) plan. For example, the last time that I looked SFR France had a 1 GB data plan (3G+) for 8 Euro.
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Totally forgot about this. OP, do this. Europe is so much cheaper than here for cell service, you can get something that will cover you for an entire month for about $10. You do have to make sure that your phone is unlocked though. If it isn't and you've had the phone for more than 40 days on the same tmobile account, you can ask mobile to give you the unlock code. If you haven't had it for more than 40 days, then you can just pay for one online.
njdevils28 said:
Hi all,
I'm vacationing with my family to Disney Paris and T-Mobile has a nifty feature of unlimited data and texting in foreign countries included in my plan.
Awesome!
Unfortunately the data is only 2G. Makes it impossible to use GPS. Surf the web or send pictures attached to a text.
Is there a mod that can bump that back up to 4G?
Thanks,
NJ
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That is exactly what is supposed to happen. Your connection may range from 2G through LTE when roaming internationally, however on the "free" plan you will be capped at 128kbps. Which isn't great, but it is fine for email, light web-lookups, most apps even skype calls!
You are lucky that the S5 worked out of the box. I was in London last week on an LG G3 and it took hours of fiddling with the APNs to get the damn phone to roam over there. So much of a hassle to have to find the perfect combination of mobile network/APN, that I just gave up and traded for an S5. I'm hoping that like my old iPhone 5s the data will just plain work without any fiddling.
T-mobile's free data plan may sound slow, but compared to roaming plans that existed before, this is the best thing since sliced bread! Imagine landing in a foreign country and immediately having working data...without having to hunt for a local SIM? Priceless. For folks who travel to many foreign destinations for short times, this is perfect.
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That is exactly what is supposed to happen. Your connection may range from 2G through LTE when roaming internationally, however on the "free" plan you will be capped at 128kbps. Which isn't great, but it is fine for email, light web-lookups, most apps even skype calls!
You are lucky that the S5 worked out of the box. I was in London last week on an LG G3 and it took hours of fiddling with the APNs to get the damn phone to roam over there. So much of a hassle to have to find the perfect combination of mobile network/APN, that I just gave up and traded for an S5. I'm hoping that like my old iPhone 5s the data will just plain work without any fiddling.
T-mobile's free data plan may sound slow, but compared to roaming plans that existed before, this is the best thing since sliced bread! Imagine landing in a foreign country and immediately having working data...without having to hunt for a local SIM? Priceless. For folks who travel to many foreign destinations for short times, this is perfect.
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I agree with your statement that the Tmo roaming works right out of the box, no fiddling. Where I go in the Caribbean, you step off the plane and everything just works (slowly).
Hi all
Visiting the states next week
LV and LA area for about ten days
need advice on 2 gsm/3g sim cards prepaid
after mainly data prob lots of it and going to make about 4 calls all up
have nexus 5 phones
what you guys use
Thanks in Advance
Anyone?
Ps i live on the other side if the world so have no idea who the providers are
Depends on what you mean by "lots of data".
With pre-paid and a GSM phone, you'll be using an MVNO or subsidiary of either AT&T or T-Mobile. AT&T will give you better overall coverage, but T-Mobile has a strong network in both LA and LV. MetroPCS uses T-Mo's network and you can get a plan with unlimited high-speed (LTE) data for $60. A bit pricey for only 10 days, but you don't have to worry about data caps, throttling, or refilling your "bucket" or card. Plus you can bypass their tethering provisioning and use your data on a laptop without having to worry about finding a hotspot or paying for the hotel's crappy wifi.
Planterz said:
Depends on what you mean by "lots of data".
With pre-paid and a GSM phone, you'll be using an MVNO or subsidiary of either AT&T or T-Mobile. AT&T will give you better overall coverage, but T-Mobile has a strong network in both LA and LV. MetroPCS uses T-Mo's network and you can get a plan with unlimited high-speed (LTE) data for $60. A bit pricey for only 10 days, but you don't have to worry about data caps, throttling, or refilling your "bucket" or card. Plus you can bypass their tethering provisioning and use your data on a laptop without having to worry about finding a hotspot or paying for the hotel's crappy wifi.
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hey thanks
can i walk into say a 7 eleven and buy a sim. Airport Hotel?
just looking at there site now
over here you have to give id ten activate yada yada
cheers
hi_reach said:
hey thanks
can i walk into say a 7 eleven and buy a sim. Airport Hotel?
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A convenience store or airport, probably not. At the airport though, I'd be very surprised if there wasn't at least a kiosk or even an actual store within the airport, or at least very close by.
just looking at there site now
over here you have to give id ten activate yada yada
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I honestly don't know how activation would work. I imagine it differs from company to company. From what I gather, activation with MetroPCS when buying a device or signing up for service is free. But if you do it at an "authorized retailer", they might charge a fee. I don't know if they charge for a SIM card or not. Cricket, for example, charges $10 for a SIM, activation in-store is $25, but free if you do it online.
I've traveled and a lot of the major ports offer Sim card kiosks/machines or you can find them in a store at the international terminals
Usually its from carrier mvno mostly that specialize in this type of thing.
http://www.readysim.com/
http://www.prepaidphonenews.com/2011/03/us-prepaid-gsm-voice-text-and-data.html?m=1
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Thanks all
went with readysim delivered to my hotel