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I've just got a T-mobile Ameo, unlocked it, upgraded radio to 1.50 and added the AP Dual ROM.
Not sure if I need to change any settings anywhere but I can't for the life of me get anything other than a "G" showing up and very slow connection speeds to match.
I've definitly got it in my area so my next step was to try a different radio. Does anyone have any recommendations which one works on O2/UK or things to try before changing radio?
Many thanks
DannyBoy said:
I've just got a T-mobile Ameo, unlocked it, upgraded radio to 1.50 and added the AP Dual ROM.
Not sure if I need to change any settings anywhere but I can't for the life of me get anything other than a "G" showing up and very slow connection speeds to match.
I've definitly got it in my area so my next step was to try a different radio. Does anyone have any recommendations which one works on O2/UK or things to try before changing radio?
Many thanks
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do a download speed test as i found on t-mobile the icon does not change to "H" with the t-mobile official roms it just shows 3G
Tried all the speed tests. Can't remember the exact results but at the time I was comparing it to the same sim card in my Orbit which is GPRS only and the speeds were about the same.
I'm not even seeing a 3G though, just the G
Ever thought that maybe that area doesn't have HSDPA coverage yet?
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I've definitly got it in my area so my next step was to try a different radio.
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As I said
DannyBoy said:
Tried all the speed tests. Can't remember the exact results but at the time I was comparing it to the same sim card in my Orbit which is GPRS only and the speeds were about the same.
I'm not even seeing a 3G though, just the G
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Stupid question I'm sure, but ur SIM is 3G enabled isn't it? When I upgraded an old vodafone account to support 3G, they had to send me a new SIM that was enabled for the service.
And my bosses British Telecom SIM card in my Ameo only showed GPRS until they enabled 3G on the account/sim, at which point it then started showing 3G.
Digital.Diablo said:
Stupid question I'm sure, but ur SIM is 3G enabled isn't it? When I upgraded an old vodafone account to support 3G, they had to send me a new SIM that was enabled for the service.
And my bosses British Telecom SIM card in my Ameo only showed GPRS until they enabled 3G on the account/sim, at which point it then started showing 3G.
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my o2 sim's are not 3g sims
Think you could well have it there mate.
I've just tried 1.45 and 1.47 radio's with the same results (just the G showing)
Will geton to O2 tommorrow
O2 are useless when it comes to data, last I checked they did not yet have HSDPA, and had a different pricing structure for data over GPRS and 3G, over GPRS you could buy a data bundle, but over 3G the best you could do was add a £5 add on that gave 4MB, after that it was a £3 per MB charge! imagine paying £2400 to download a Divx movie, you could go and buy the movie in Hi-def plus a Hi-def player plus a Hi-def TV to watch it on for that sort of money!
anyway bringing my post on topic
1) It is true you need a 3G sim (uSim) aswell as a 3G phone
2) It is possible that your area has 3G coverage but not HSDPA
3) Check the cost of "3G data" on your package before you go wild
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O2 are useless when it comes to data, last I checked they did not yet have HSDPA, and had a different pricing structure for data over GPRS and 3G, over GPRS you could buy a data bundle, but over 3G the best you could do was add a £5 add on that gave 4MB, after that it was a £3 per MB charge! imagine paying £2400 to download a Divx movie, you could go and buy the movie in Hi-def plus a Hi-def player plus a Hi-def TV to watch it on for that sort of money!
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Not my experience. I have HSDPA on O2 without a problem on my 7500 and laptop (using the O2 USB modem), so long as there is a 3g signal it usually gets an HSDPA download. The 3g symbol will change to an H.
I am using the standard HTC WM6 ROM with Radio 1.5
I have the O2 Web Max tarrif, so I have unlimited data.
I used to disable 3g on my Exec by going into the Phone Settings and setting the Band settings to GSM only instead of Auto (WM6 on the Exec was very poor at swtiching between the 2) - have you looked at that ?
Clearly if you don't have a 3g SIM that will be a problem too.
cottinghamm said:
Not my experience. I have HSDPA on O2 without a problem on my 7500 and laptop (using the O2 USB modem), so long as there is a 3g signal it usually gets an HSDPA download. The 3g symbol will change to an H.
I am using the standard HTC WM6 ROM with Radio 1.5
I have the O2 Web Max tarrif, so I have unlimited data.
I used to disable 3g on my Exec by going into the Phone Settings and setting the Band settings to GSM only instead of Auto (WM6 on the Exec was very poor at swtiching between the 2) - have you looked at that ?
Clearly if you don't have a 3g SIM that will be a problem too.
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as a business customer maybe, but try adding web max to a voice tariff so you can have 1 sim does all (like T-mobile do) I think you will find that O2 don't support it !
I pay £37.50 PM for 900 Xnet Anytime mins and unlimited HSDPA data ! what are you getting ?
Well, the first person I spoke to at O2 they told me it has nothing to do with the sim card, he said it was because the HTC advantage is not surpported on the O2 network.
I politely asked to speak to someone who has an ounce of common sense. To which he said he was a manger and he knew more than most :lol:
I re-called and the next person I spoke to agreed its probably the sim and I'll need to go into a store and get a new sim card.
Off I popped to the nearest store, but the poor bloke serving had never even heard of HSDPA, let alone what it was.
I asked him if I could possibly try one of their sims in my phone to see if I can get HSDPA and he agreed to let me try his. Before he opened his phone I noticed an H on his screen so I told him what the H stood for.
Anyway sure enough it worked but when he tried registering a new sim to my number their computer system said no
He gave a me number to call to get a new sim sent to me but as expected it took me another two attepts until I found someone who had the slightest idea what I was talking about.
Finally £14.99 and 5 hours later the new sim should be in the post.
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Well, the first person I spoke to at O2 they told me it has nothing to do with the sim card, he said it was because the HTC advantage is not surpported on the O2 network.
I politely asked to speak to someone who has an ounce of common sense. To which he said he was a manger and he knew more than most :lol:
I re-called and the next person I spoke to agreed its probably the sim and I'll need to go into a store and get a new sim card.
Off I popped to the nearest store, but the poor bloke serving had never even heard of HSDPA, let alone what it was.
I asked him if I could possibly try one of their sims in my phone to see if I can get HSDPA and he agreed to let me try his. Before he opened his phone I noticed an H on his screen so I told him what the H stood for.
Anyway sure enough it worked but when he tried registering a new sim to my number their computer system said no
He gave a me number to call to get a new sim sent to me but as expected it took me another two attepts until I found someone who had the slightest idea what I was talking about.
Finally £14.99 and 5 hours later the new sim should be in the post.
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you should have said 3.5G it's laymans term for hsdpa and oiks in phone shops understand it.
New sim arrived today and I'm up and running on 3G/HSDPA
The only odd thing is it seems to be constantly be switching between 3G and H.
90% of the time it says 3G then if you hit a link when browsing it'll switch to H. As the new page is loading though it'll swich from 3G to H two or 3 times.
Does this sound normal to you?
Glad it turned out to be something fairly simple (once you actually found someone with an ounce of sense). Mine flicks between 3G and HSDPA fairly regularly - it tends to say HSDPA until a data connection is established, at which point it drops back to 3G
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Glad it turned out to be something fairly simple (once you actually found someone with an ounce of sense). Mine flicks between 3G and HSDPA fairly regularly - it tends to say HSDPA until a data connection is established, at which point it drops back to 3G
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It shouldn't say 'H' until you're connecting or downloading. As soon as you start receiving data it will switch to 'H', although sometimes my 3G would mysteriously switch off entirely in my office (on my Hermes AND Ameo) and I'd be stuck with GPRS until I restarted or waited for about 15 minutes. Strange.
Im in need of a mobile broadband solution and my TG01 seems the most convenient option. I've been using a USB tether for a week on the giffgaff mobile network and its awesome, great speeds browsing the web, etc only now i've had a warning from the giffgaff network that im using too much data. I didnt realise but they have a 100mb data limit per day so i must have been using a gig a day atleast !
I need an alternative solution and quick so im looking at these mobile broadband sims you can buy that go in dongles. Only im wondering do i even need the dongle, am i right in thinking a dongle is just a modem so my tg01 should be able to do the same provided with the right settings ? Has anyone tried a mobile broadband sim in a tg01 ?
This is the sim im looking at getting http://threestore.three.co.uk/dealsummary.aspx?offercode=1MB5GD015
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Im in need of a mobile broadband solution and my TG01 seems the most convenient option. I've been using a USB tether for a week on the giffgaff mobile network and its awesome, great speeds browsing the web, etc only now i've had a warning from the giffgaff network that im using too much data. I didnt realise but they have a 100mb data limit per day so i must have been using a gig a day atleast !
I need an alternative solution and quick so im looking at these mobile broadband sims you can buy that go in dongles. Only im wondering do i even need the dongle, am i right in thinking a dongle is just a modem so my tg01 should be able to do the same provided with the right settings ? Has anyone tried a meobile broadband sim in a tg01 ?
This is the sim im looking at getting http://threestore.three.co.uk/dealsummary.aspx?offercode=1MB5GD015
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omg , I'm on giffgaff too and i though i was a heavvy data user.. its meant to be unnlimited i thought. dont bother with the dongle. get a sim card then thether with a wifi router to your pc. thats what i do for my tab and ipod touch from my tg01. use a mirom,it has the feature included.
Giffgaff is an awesome network, its like having a pay as you go contract and its so cheap ! I thought the unlimited data was a bit too good to be true and turns out it was, i'm also finding that they dont allow tethering on giffgaff now. If it werent for the data limitations it'd be the best network ever ... Anyway, i've bought one of the 3 Uk pay as you go dongles + data sim which will be arriving tomorrow so hopefully the sim will work in my tg01 too. The sims seem to be pretty cheap on ebay so when my initial data runs out ill probably just get a couple sims off ebay . I guess ill have to cut down on the rom downloads now though, and all the other unecessary downloading so i dont run out of data.
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Giffgaff is an awesome network, its like having a pay as you go contract and its so cheap ! I thought the unlimited data was a bit too good to be true and turns out it was, i'm also finding that they dont allow tethering on giffgaff now. If it werent for the data limitations it'd be the best network ever ... Anyway, i've bought one of the 3 Uk pay as you go dongles + data sim which will be arriving tomorrow so hopefully the sim will work in my tg01 too. The sims seem to be pretty cheap on ebay so when my initial data runs out ill probably just get a couple sims off ebay . I guess ill have to cut down on the rom downloads now though, and all the other unecessary downloading so i dont run out of data.
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Nice Oh, i'm assuming you dont have a Wifi connection. Because i use my giffgaff network a lot for heavy browsing when I'm away from home, but when I'm home, thats where i do my heavy data usage with WiFi. Hope the 3 UK sims all work out for you!
i agree to giffgaff is awesome ! shame the unlimited internet runs out in the 28th feb :/
Cheers
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Im in need of a mobile broadband solution and my TG01 seems the most convenient option. I've been using a USB tether for a week on the giffgaff mobile network and its awesome, great speeds browsing the web, etc only now i've had a warning from the giffgaff network that im using too much data. I didnt realise but they have a 100mb data limit per day so i must have been using a gig a day atleast !
I need an alternative solution and quick so im looking at these mobile broadband sims you can buy that go in dongles. Only im wondering do i even need the dongle, am i right in thinking a dongle is just a modem so my tg01 should be able to do the same provided with the right settings ? Has anyone tried a mobile broadband sim in a tg01 ?
This is the sim im looking at getting http://threestore.three.co.uk/dealsummary.aspx?offercode=1MB5GD015
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I too am with Giffgaff. It is against the terms and conditions to tether your network conditions so I would not advise doing this, however...
If you did not use "excessive amounts" of data tethering and you managed to slip under the radar as it were then you should not have a problem, say for surfing the net in emergencies rather than downloading huge files.
Also if you use a giffgaff goodybag then the fair use policy (limit) you mention does not apply. it is truely unlimited.
as olyloh6696 said previously, sharing your connection in this way (ie wirelessly) is a really good idea. Although you will be effectively breaking the terms and conditions of giffgaff, if you use a giffgaff sim card. (I AM NOT ADVISING YOU DO THIS IN ANYWAY!!) however I am unsure of exactly how anyone would be able to tell that you were doing this as it is the app your phone which is accessing the data rather than another computer.
I may be wrong!!!
Giffgaff is a wonderfull network for smartphone users as is XDA a wonderful forum
Thanks for the advice with giffgaff hazy, i might give that a try if my data with 3 runs out too soon. i wasn't aware the goody bag gave unlimited data so that's awesome thanks. I'd only do it if im desperate though since getting kicked off giffgaff would be a disaster.
Anyway, now to post back the results with my 3 data sim in the tg01. It works but has its issues, basically i've inserted in the sim into the tg01 added a new data connection with the apn 3internet and everything else blank. This works fine but occasionally i find the connection disconnects itself and results in a limited connection (no internet). This is easily resolved by turning the data connection off and on again so its not too much off a bother. Besides im guessing this is the same on all networks since it did exactly the same when i was tethering with giffgaff.
Now the other thing i think worth mentioning is the dongle i bought with the 3 sim, basically its useless and if your looking into using any sort of mobile broadband id recommend just cutting out the dongle completely since you dont need it. Just buy a sim and put it in your tg01, in my experience these dongles are too much trouble. I've spent a total of 28 hours (over 3 days) trying to get the dongle to work but it just wont connect. Dongle reports a full signal where i am but simply wont connect, tried at a friends and it worked first time. Rang three today, spent over an hour on the phone and they've finally determined its faulty, even though it works elsewhere ? There sending a replacement which i can almost guarantee wont work ...
So apart from the dongle these things are great lol
I picked up my sim free s2 today and it's awesome, but prior to picking it up I spent a load of money buying various payg sim cards to test for data performance. Minimum top up seems to be £10 these days (ouch) and this is what I got.
Please note when testing vodafone I used a contract sim and 3g was unavailable where I was in devon
Please note I did not test T-orange (as I'm already aware they are useless for data)
Please note all tests were done in west london and devon
Please note speed tests were done with www.speedtest.net
Please note all tests were done with full signal strength
Please note I used the "about: useragent" trick to let my phone view the true iplayer website
Tesco
This is actually using o2 behind the scenes.
Data rate 0.5 mbps this was pathetic but much worse than being slow, the data transfer was horribly uneven when downloading, you would get a burst of data and then wait literally a minute or 2 for the next burst, this behaviour meant that when attempting to download a newspaper (free press reader app from samsung) it would never complete.
Some kind of https (secure internet) issue meant it is unable to log into hsbc bank
BBC iplayer video streams were completely blocked by the network.
www.tvcatchup.com also does not work
I then tethered (via wifi) my phone to my laptop and repeated the tests to check if it was a device competency issue, the results were exactly the same.
O2
The results were exactly the same as tesco, unsurprising seeing as it's the same network except logging into hsbc worked perfectly.
I have it on good authority that giff gaff (also on o2) has similar poor data rates.
3
All I can say is WOW what a difference
Data rate steady at around 2.5mbps I can download a newspaper in a couple of minutes, no problems with secure websites the only nuisance was removing the content lock because apparently (according to 3) even torrent like websites are too mature for youngsters and are lumped into the same restricted category as hard porn websites
BBC iplayer works perfectly both on my phone and when tethered to a laptop as does www.tvcatchup.com
In general tethering to my laptop was a positive and speedy experience (for mobile) I actually went on to download a couple of gigabytes of data which was made possible because if you top up with £15 you can get unlimited data for 30 days, and I don't mean a fair use policy of 500 mb or 1gb, I mean TRULY unlimited. Also included with your £15 is 300 any net minutes and 3000 texts.
Lastly vodafone the king of data, peaking at 4mbps everything works well (until you run out of your measly 500 mb of data for the month and stump up more money for more data) also whilst vodafone has better coverage than 3 for voice 3 is winning for 3g coverage. The bottom line is vodafone is the best performer (when you can get it) but you will have to pay for it
In conclusion I'm keeping my 3payg sim all you can eat data for £15 including talk minutes and thousands of texts, seems like a good deal to me.
I use Giffgaff for my Galaxy Tab and I quite often get speeds of up to and around 1.5-2Mbps. Found them to be the best value for money considering what you get for your £10. I'll be switching to them full time once my Orange contract is up. I guess you kinda have to be lucky to live in an area with good O2 3G coverage.
Good testing though, mate. I was quite shocked to see Voda was getting up to 4Mbps. That 500MB limit would be a real killer for me, though.
Vodafone is completely useless in my area, they took down the mast when they destroyed the old Peugeot plant across from my house.
3 is not bad, always get a 3G signal apart from in the town centre.
But Orange is the best for me, and I'm not saying that because I work for them, I always get a good 3G signal and fast speeds.
I currently have my iPhone 4 with Tesco and the signal is so weird, one minute you get full 3G, then nothing (that's without enforcing the death grip).
Can you please post your speedtest.net results here, I am curious about orange, but im really intrested in what DVC 1985 said, as several other users have reported shocking performance on giff gaff, I will post my speed test when I get a chance.
BTW speedtest provide a url to your results that you can just copy and paste here.
One thing you might want to know:
Vodafone are trialling 14mbps mobile data later this year, the kind of speeds that the GS2 was built for, and currently the only phone in the UK capable of using these speeds.
Get a Sim Only contract from them to get 1gb of mobile data.
Mr_Mjolnir said:
One thing you might want to know:
Vodafone are trialling 14mbps mobile data later this year, the kind of speeds that the GS2 was built for, and currently the only phone in the UK capable of using these speeds.
Get a Sim Only contract from them to get 1gb of mobile data.
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That is cool to know, but they already won in my test on performance, maybe they should redirect some of the funds away from increasing performance and more to increasing coverage !
PS I doubt they will allow 14 mbps on their phone sims, I bet it will be restricted to the broadband dongles, I know o2 dongles get better results than I posted earlier.
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That is cool to know, but they already won in my test on performance, maybe they should redirect some of the funds away from increasing performance and more to increasing coverage !
PS I doubt they will allow 14 mbps on their phone sims, I bet it will be restricted to the broadband dongles, I know o2 dongles get better results than I posted earlier.
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Pretty sure they will allow it on phone, the number of phones that will actually be able to use that speed will be small so it won't matter too much. The current dongles can already use up to 14mbps, but the realistic max. is 10.8(both stated on the dongle box), and of course the real-world max will be around 7.2, which is what most phones can currently use.
AFAIK there is no limit imposed on the sims, and no plans to add any, but of course the realistic speeds are never the maximum possible.
well with att and my current SGS1 i get 6.5mbps on speedtest.net, and have actually personally seen download speeds of 9300kbps using TubeMate
Network 3 have been awesome since I joined
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I live in Belfast and Vodafone is the best for data here. 3G availability widely and it's pretty fast. Used my mate's o2 Desire yesterday (compared to my girlfriend's VF Desire) and I ran out of patience with it.
As promised here is an example speedtest with 3, it surprised me too
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Im jealous of 6.5 mbps, it's also nice to see confirmation about o2, it wasn't just me, I might publish my findings in other parts of the forum as it does not only apply to samsung galaxy s'
Edit as promised more speedtest proof
This is o2 payg with full signal strength in west london I repeated the test several times as I couldn't believe my eyes
Edit more from speedtest this time I have managed to borrow a virgin contract sim (uses T-Mobile) same as the o2 test west London full signal
was with o2. their speed are terrible around my area less then 0.5 mbps. now i am considering three, they have very good 3g coverage and best of all their AYCE data.
I would also like to vouch for Orange. The speed appears to vary depending on the signal rather than the network as a whole. For example in central london I was getting super fast 3g (streaming live sport and even tethering it to the laptop to get live sport) but in Northampton the 3g was quite slow. In Leicester the 3G is moderately quick but in some areas (despite being in the centre of the city) I didin't get 3g at all.
So in conclusion its the network coverage that varies rather than any kind of cap or poor service network wide.
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I would also like to vouch for Orange. The speed appears to vary depending on the signal rather than the network as a whole. For example in central london I was getting super fast 3g (streaming live sport and even tethering it to the laptop to get live sport) but in Northampton the 3g was quite slow. In Leicester the 3G is moderately quick but in some areas (despite being in the centre of the city) I didin't get 3g at all.
So in conclusion its the network coverage that varies rather than any kind of cap or poor service network wide.
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Fair comment, maybe I was to quick to dismiss orange, I already knew t mobile was pants, please post up speed test results.
Yea I just gave my subjective opinion so I'll put up the speed tests in the next week or so (I'm away at the mo)
Oh and I meant to ask - was there a particular thread you were referring to about the poor t-mobile/orange data?
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Yea I just gave my subjective opinion so I'll put up the speed tests in the next week or so (I'm away at the mo)
Oh and I meant to ask - was there a particular thread you were referring to about the poor t-mobile/orange data?
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Yes it's the thread where a group of forum members on here have managed to prove that t-mobile are supplying heavily reduced data performance unless you phone them up and twist there arm into enabling pda data rates on your sim.
I can't remember where the thread is though !
I was on O2 for 3 years until a month ago and I took their data speeds for granted.
In central London I was getting 3-4mbps solid no problems.
Went onto T-Mobile, the mast for which is pretty much next to the O2 one, best I could ever get is about 1.5mbps, averaging about 500-700kbps in exactly the same place. That was after ringing them several times to get the bloody 300kbps speed cap taken off.
I miss O2 and their overpriced contracts.
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I was on O2 for 3 years until a month ago and I took their data speeds for granted.
In central London I was getting 3-4mbps solid no problems.
Went onto T-Mobile, the mast for which is pretty much next to the O2 one, best I could ever get is about 1.5mbps, averaging about 500-700kbps in exactly the same place. That was after ringing them several times to get the bloody 300kbps speed cap taken off.
I miss O2 and their overpriced contracts.
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from what your saying, it seems that contract O2 performs much better than PAYG O2, I guess this is poissible as contract phones use the apn mobile.o2.co.uk and PAYG is payandgo.o2.co.uk, this would allow them to split their service ? if any peeps on here are on contract O2 please post your speedtest results.
im having a chat with o2 right now heres part of the conversation as im looking to get the sgs2 with them
You: sorry thats allowance i get allowances i work for talktalk broadband, what im looking for is download speeds
Shelley: Speeds of up to 21Mb per second.
Shelley: That better?
You: that hsdpa+?
Shelley: HSDPA. not +
Shelley: Would you like a link for all of the information you need?
You: yeh thanks, is that available on the mobile phone side? i know the dongles are faster, i know the sgs2 can support higher speeds but as far as i knew most networks actual speeds were upto 10meg, with only voda uk trialing 14meg later in the year, can you tell what speeds id get in my cell location
You: 3 tell me i can get 4meg
Shelley: Let me check for you.
Shelley: What i can make you aware is at the moment O2 is trialing a 4G network up and down the country, with estimated speeds of over 30MB/s. So you can expect massive speeds through this handset.
Shelley: How does that sound for you?
You: yeh wow thats cool
Shelley: Excellent!
theyre erecting a new mast near me yay lol - o2 = 4g = jizz lol
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im having a chat with o2 right now heres part of the conversation as im looking to get the sgs2 with them
You: sorry thats allowance i get allowances i work for talktalk broadband, what im looking for is download speeds
Shelley: Speeds of up to 21Mb per second.
Shelley: That better?
You: that hsdpa+?
Shelley: HSDPA. not +
Shelley: Would you like a link for all of the information you need?
You: yeh thanks, is that available on the mobile phone side? i know the dongles are faster, i know the sgs2 can support higher speeds but as far as i knew most networks actual speeds were upto 10meg, with only voda uk trialing 14meg later in the year, can you tell what speeds id get in my cell location
You: 3 tell me i can get 4meg
Shelley: Let me check for you.
Shelley: What i can make you aware is at the moment O2 is trialing a 4G network up and down the country, with estimated speeds of over 30MB/s. So you can expect massive speeds through this handset.
Shelley: How does that sound for you?
You: yeh wow thats cool
Shelley: Excellent!
theyre erecting a new mast near me yay lol - o2 = 4g = jizz lol
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lol gota love o2 chat ...... this is hilarious
Shelley: Are you not thinking of getting this today and getting rid if Orange?
Shelley: They are not very good as a provider, they ripped me off. And i am not just saying that because i work for 02, i do not like them at all!
You: yes ive had enough with orange to be honest, too many dropped calls and incorrect bills, they gave me a gesture of goodwill of £50 a month or 2 back because the kept incorrectly billing me
Shelley: They broke their contract with me and wouldn't help me with a broken handset,
Shelley: Yes, same with me and over charging and i got a lot of bank charges which weren't in my account and so i was getting charges left right and centre for a handset i couldn't even use! So i told them to stick it!
You: not good, lol hahaha
As the Thread title suggests, i would like to know what the best UK network for the S2 is? I have an order on hold with orange at the moment for £35p/m
after screening the forums a little bit it seems that orange isnt the best network provider to go with, because although coverage is great, their network speeds are rubbish...what would you guys recommend in terms of best network provider for this phone?
ps bear in mind i am in the london and braintree areas quite a lot
the million pound question??. Am O2 I think internet speed rubbish I have never seen 3g icon on my screen lol
as far as i have been able to read, vodaphone seem to utilize the s2's networking capabilities best,
reading on the general section, i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14400787&postcount=30
in the thread "SGS2 now available on orange UK"
which made me wonder - three mobile seem to have good deals for cheapness....£26pm gets you a free phone, 1gb data, unlim texts etc, so i would go for them, however the network speed is something i have recently been coveting....anyone had any speedtests done while on three?
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
Lennyuk said:
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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im jealous i must admit, but what about networking speeds? or do you cope just fine with the speeds as they are? this phone is capable of loading faster than most home broadbands if i believe what iv been told...i cant tell what speeds i have as my hd2 wont connect to the internet - hardware issue :/
Lennyuk said:
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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Thpefial? (Sorry - couldn't resist...)
Best network is relative to signal strength in the areas of phone use for each network .
Data its always said that 3 are best for data true not a clue .
http://selfhelp.carphonewarehouse.com/SelfHelp/request.do?view%28%29=c{179c7460-e8a9-11de-da00-000000000000}
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Three are the only network that offer truly unlimited data on the one plan with a free phone for £40 I think. I've seen my mate's speedtest with a Desire HD consistently hitting 9+ mb the past month as they've activated the HSPA+ network. Three's signal is crap indoors though, due to the part of the spectrum they use not penetrating buildings well (so I'm told).
I'm on O2 (central London), I'm guaranteed H or H+ signals, consistently above 3 mbps.
Well, if you care about heavy duty data usage, go with 3 (So long as you're in an area with decent signal - it gets a bit ropy up north).
I'm with 3UK, purely for the genuinely unlimited data (although I've been with them for years and always went over the 1gb limit without charge before), in London their speeds are great, usually have a ping under 100, down of 3-5 in perfect conditions, up of 1-1.5 (via the SpeedTest app)
I will say in the area i live (oxfordshie) 3 is exelent,i get hsdpa just about every where. I get 5700 on speed test app at work-on vodafone and orange i get 20
three mobile it is then i will go to the three store and pick it up (because i cannot wait for it to be delivered lol) once i get my new bank card and PIN code through
Yup, I'm on Three also and whilst their results vary (I get anywhere from 0.11 to 5.14Mbps Download speed here in Cumbria!) the main selling point for me is truly unlimited data on the One Plan with tethering allowed! There may be others offering true unlimited data (talkmobile? Giff Gaff?) but I don't think others allow tethering... I should note they acknowledge that they throttle their data at peek times (6pm to midnight) but I'd be surprised if other networks don't do the same, and my data speeds are generally fine.
I'm on 3 and its crap indoors. Do get 3g a lot. I buy the fone instead of contract because u pay for another fone as the contracts are like 2 year plans. Im on a SIM contract for 15 quid and get 600mins 1 gb internet 3000texts which is good but hate the signal
I was with three but dropped them because of awful building penetration, their signal is just rubbish indoors which was no good to me at work when my phone spent all day trying to cling onto a scrap of signal. I could receive texts at my desk but if I moved the phone or tryed a voice call it would drop signal altogether.
Moved to Orange, very happy now. Speeds aren't as fast as Three for data but come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
ADSrox0r said:
come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
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Pretty much, yeah. Long commute, if someone tells me about a good film at work.. Piracy is a way of life
Hi all,
I have just switched to 3 in the UK and have noticed that there appears to be no data when the phone rolls back to 2G (out of 3G/HSPDA coverage) so I get no GPRS.
Is this right?
I am aware that 3 uses Orange for voice and calls when out of there own coverage areas, but should I not be getting GPRS on Orange?
Thanks.
Yep three are 3g or 3g+ only
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Oh dear..
Thanks for your reply.
Is there any solution to get GPRS while on Oranges 2G network?
gavin watson said:
Oh dear..
Thanks for your reply.
Is there any solution to get GPRS while on Oranges 2G network?
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nope!!!!
Oh dear, dear!
This isn't good news for me! Slow connectivity is better than no connectivity!
Hmmm, seems like I am not 'On the network for built for the internet' if I get NO internet!
to be fair, i rarely find myself in an area of no signal, but when I am, 3's internet speeds are outrageously fast.
well worth it
It's ok in 97% if the UK when it's good it's very good but when it's bad it's bloody awful
I went to Scotland a week and found the 3% of the country without coverage it killed me no.internet or phone for that matter
In defense of 3 they are superb value where else could you get 2000 mins 5000 text 5000 3 to 3 minutes and unlimited internet for £36
I.use around 7gb per month via my phone and tethering
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Hi guys,
I'm not denying when there is 3G (and above) coverage it is very good. I was just shocked to learn that there is no GPRS backup, for me I'd rather have very slow data than none at all... It would appear from what I've found out that they don't want the users to have 'a bad customer experience' when on GPRS thinking that it's a slow network... Not sure I agree with that, especially when you desperately need data, even it is it GPRS...
I would really like them giving users the option to fallback onto GPRS by maybe manually entering APN settings, this way at least having a choice (knowing that it is GPRS and not their own 3G network)...
Interesting...
mancuk29 said:
It's ok in 97% if the UK when it's good it's very good but when it's bad it's bloody awful
I went to Scotland a week and found the 3% of the country without coverage it killed me no.internet or phone for that matter
In defense of 3 they are superb value where else could you get 2000 mins 5000 text 5000 3 to 3 minutes and unlimited internet for £36
I.use around 7gb per month via my phone and tethering
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exactly i couldnt put it better myself
mancuk29 said:
It's ok in 97% if the UK when it's good it's very good but when it's bad it's bloody awful
I went to Scotland a week and found the 3% of the country without coverage it killed me no.internet or phone for that matter
In defense of 3 they are superb value where else could you get 2000 mins 5000 text 5000 3 to 3 minutes and unlimited internet for £36
I.use around 7gb per month via my phone and tethering
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I agree with you 100% I went with three's one plan for the data, this month I have used 8.7GB from the 14th yes their signal can be sketchy at times but if I had a 1GB plan I would have clocked up hundreds on my bill so its bearable for me.
When I say their signal is sketchy I get a full signal on my window ledge but on the sofa under the window I get 1 or 2 bars literally less than one foot distance.
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I'm not complaining about the price or the allowance, nor about their network speed. I was just saying it would be nice to have the option to fallback to GPRS data when 3G isn't available. I had no diea this would happen when I signed up 5 days ago, and it is a problem for me to not have that...
So far I am happy enough with the speed and the allowance, etc... Which is why I moved over to 3 in the first place...
If you are in a marginal signal area, you may have a reasonable signal outside your property, but because 2100mhz signal doesn't penetrate walls well, it may not get inside your house. Walk around the outside perimitter of you property, checking the signal strength as you move - if there is a good signal, then there are solutions for getting that signal inside using 2100mhz signal boosters, their use seems to be a legal grey area - but no one has been prosecuted for using them in the uk as I understand to-date. I too have no signal in 80% of the inside of my house yet am very close to a 3uk mast, but I live in a building with 2ft thick walls. I have just installed a signal repeater and, although I am still playing about with the siting of the antenna and booster, it has deffinately made a difference.
If you have only just taken out your contract with 3uk - you may be able to get out of it if you wish - they are obliged to check that there is an available signal at your registered address and should have refused your application if not. Hope this helps
gavin watson said:
I'm not complaining about the price or the allowance, nor about their network speed. I was just saying it would be nice to have the option to fallback to GPRS data when 3G isn't available. I had no diea this would happen when I signed up 5 days ago, and it is a problem for me to not have that...
So far I am happy enough with the speed and the allowance, etc... Which is why I moved over to 3 in the first place...
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Three only use 3g I would when I first signed up to them I did ask about 3g coverage and they said they only use 3g, ask the right questions and you would have known, if it's only been 5 days you should be able to cancel if you want (I think three say 14 days and get another contract, but I personally wouldn't I'm happy with them because of the unlimited data.
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gavin watson said:
Hi guys,
I'm not denying when there is 3G (and above) coverage it is very good. I was just shocked to learn that there is no GPRS backup, for me I'd rather have very slow data than none at all... It would appear from what I've found out that they don't want the users to have 'a bad customer experience' when on GPRS thinking that it's a slow network... Not sure I agree with that, especially when you desperately need data, even it is it GPRS...
I would really like them giving users the option to fallback onto GPRS by maybe manually entering APN settings, this way at least having a choice (knowing that it is GPRS and not their own 3G network)...
Interesting...
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i wouldnt get too attached. 2G will be turned off and reassigned for new spectrum auctions in the very near future. i have been on 3 for 2 years and i have never not had 3G for long.
GPRS cant cope with normal web anyway. it was designed for WAP. its not a big loss trust me. At least you can still make calls.
delsus said:
ask the right questions and you would have known, if it's only been 5 days you should be able to cancel if you want (I think three say 14 days and get another contract, but I personally wouldn't I'm happy with them because of the unlimited data.
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I did ask, they told me that when out of their coervage it reverted to Orange, which I was on before. What they didn't say was that when it reverted to Orange, it wouldn't include data. I'm not saying they lied, they were however, a little economical with the truth!
I have spoken with them, they are allowing me a little more time (over 7 days) to see how it all works out. As I travel quite a bit I will have to see how much this affects me. I think I will end up staying as it makes more sense for me to have unlimited data than pay Orange quite a bit over my monthly plan for the extra data used...
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I did ask, they told me that when out of their coervage it reverted to Orange, which I was on before. What they didn't say was that when it reverted to Orange, it wouldn't include data. I'm not saying they lied, they were however, a little economical with the truth!
I have spoken with them, they are allowing me a little more time (over 7 days) to see how it all works out. As I travel quite a bit I will have to see how much this affects me. I think I will end up staying as it makes more sense for me to have unlimited data than pay Orange quite a bit over my monthly plan for the extra data used...
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Ahh I would recommend staying, while three have a lot of drawbacks the well priced unlimited data makes it worth it imo up to now on a 1GB plan I would have an extra £700+ on my bill and I still have 13 days on this billing cycle. Anything other than unlimited data is unacceptable now in my eyes.
The only other option for unlimited data is t-mobile but it will cost more (I think £40+ with the phone)
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Three has been 3G only for quote a few years now, when they first launched they used to use Orange or O2 for 2G fallback but they didn't renew these agreements as their own 3G coverage was deemed strong enough.
It would not have taken much research to find out they have no 2G coverage, also if you just asked someone before taking the contract out...did the name Three not give you any indication?
the only thing going for three is the 'cheaper' priced tarrifs, much faster 3G network and no fair usage, apart from that their offers are on parr with other special offers on other networks.
The lack of 2g is a bit of an issue if you are in a no coverage area, however if you do have coverage your fine.
A|ex said:
the only thing going for three is the 'cheaper' priced tarrifs, much faster 3G network and no fair usage, apart from that their offers are on parr with other special offers on other networks.
The lack of 2g is a bit of an issue if you are in a no coverage area, however if you do have coverage your fine.
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And that's what matters these days, data costs a lot more than voice and texts, you can rack up a larger bill in a shorter time with data than with anything else, also in the world of data speed matters a lot. Lets not forget the economy I get 5000 texts, 2000 mins and unlimited data for £34/month nothing beats that with a galaxy S3 and lets not forget the £700+ on my bill for data I have saved with 3, I don't think it's possible to do that with voice and texts.
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I went through hell to get a 3 contract cancelled and a MIFI portable broadband dongle contract scrapped because I couldn't get a 3G signal. They dropped 2G in places they deem to be "good coverage" and are turning more and more of their back up network (Orange) off.
They are the worst provider by far. Now with T-Mobile and I get T-Mo and Orange coverage since the merger. Can switch as I please.
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