Want to know the best network for data ? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I picked up my sim free s2 today and it's awesome, but prior to picking it up I spent a load of money buying various payg sim cards to test for data performance. Minimum top up seems to be £10 these days (ouch) and this is what I got.
Please note when testing vodafone I used a contract sim and 3g was unavailable where I was in devon
Please note I did not test T-orange (as I'm already aware they are useless for data)
Please note all tests were done in west london and devon
Please note speed tests were done with www.speedtest.net
Please note all tests were done with full signal strength
Please note I used the "about: useragent" trick to let my phone view the true iplayer website
Tesco
This is actually using o2 behind the scenes.
Data rate 0.5 mbps this was pathetic but much worse than being slow, the data transfer was horribly uneven when downloading, you would get a burst of data and then wait literally a minute or 2 for the next burst, this behaviour meant that when attempting to download a newspaper (free press reader app from samsung) it would never complete.
Some kind of https (secure internet) issue meant it is unable to log into hsbc bank
BBC iplayer video streams were completely blocked by the network.
www.tvcatchup.com also does not work
I then tethered (via wifi) my phone to my laptop and repeated the tests to check if it was a device competency issue, the results were exactly the same.
O2
The results were exactly the same as tesco, unsurprising seeing as it's the same network except logging into hsbc worked perfectly.
I have it on good authority that giff gaff (also on o2) has similar poor data rates.
3
All I can say is WOW what a difference
Data rate steady at around 2.5mbps I can download a newspaper in a couple of minutes, no problems with secure websites the only nuisance was removing the content lock because apparently (according to 3) even torrent like websites are too mature for youngsters and are lumped into the same restricted category as hard porn websites
BBC iplayer works perfectly both on my phone and when tethered to a laptop as does www.tvcatchup.com
In general tethering to my laptop was a positive and speedy experience (for mobile) I actually went on to download a couple of gigabytes of data which was made possible because if you top up with £15 you can get unlimited data for 30 days, and I don't mean a fair use policy of 500 mb or 1gb, I mean TRULY unlimited. Also included with your £15 is 300 any net minutes and 3000 texts.
Lastly vodafone the king of data, peaking at 4mbps everything works well (until you run out of your measly 500 mb of data for the month and stump up more money for more data) also whilst vodafone has better coverage than 3 for voice 3 is winning for 3g coverage. The bottom line is vodafone is the best performer (when you can get it) but you will have to pay for it
In conclusion I'm keeping my 3payg sim all you can eat data for £15 including talk minutes and thousands of texts, seems like a good deal to me.

I use Giffgaff for my Galaxy Tab and I quite often get speeds of up to and around 1.5-2Mbps. Found them to be the best value for money considering what you get for your £10. I'll be switching to them full time once my Orange contract is up. I guess you kinda have to be lucky to live in an area with good O2 3G coverage.
Good testing though, mate. I was quite shocked to see Voda was getting up to 4Mbps. That 500MB limit would be a real killer for me, though.

Vodafone is completely useless in my area, they took down the mast when they destroyed the old Peugeot plant across from my house.
3 is not bad, always get a 3G signal apart from in the town centre.
But Orange is the best for me, and I'm not saying that because I work for them, I always get a good 3G signal and fast speeds.
I currently have my iPhone 4 with Tesco and the signal is so weird, one minute you get full 3G, then nothing (that's without enforcing the death grip).

Can you please post your speedtest.net results here, I am curious about orange, but im really intrested in what DVC 1985 said, as several other users have reported shocking performance on giff gaff, I will post my speed test when I get a chance.
BTW speedtest provide a url to your results that you can just copy and paste here.

One thing you might want to know:
Vodafone are trialling 14mbps mobile data later this year, the kind of speeds that the GS2 was built for, and currently the only phone in the UK capable of using these speeds.
Get a Sim Only contract from them to get 1gb of mobile data.

Mr_Mjolnir said:
One thing you might want to know:
Vodafone are trialling 14mbps mobile data later this year, the kind of speeds that the GS2 was built for, and currently the only phone in the UK capable of using these speeds.
Get a Sim Only contract from them to get 1gb of mobile data.
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That is cool to know, but they already won in my test on performance, maybe they should redirect some of the funds away from increasing performance and more to increasing coverage !
PS I doubt they will allow 14 mbps on their phone sims, I bet it will be restricted to the broadband dongles, I know o2 dongles get better results than I posted earlier.

ice_coffee said:
That is cool to know, but they already won in my test on performance, maybe they should redirect some of the funds away from increasing performance and more to increasing coverage !
PS I doubt they will allow 14 mbps on their phone sims, I bet it will be restricted to the broadband dongles, I know o2 dongles get better results than I posted earlier.
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Pretty sure they will allow it on phone, the number of phones that will actually be able to use that speed will be small so it won't matter too much. The current dongles can already use up to 14mbps, but the realistic max. is 10.8(both stated on the dongle box), and of course the real-world max will be around 7.2, which is what most phones can currently use.
AFAIK there is no limit imposed on the sims, and no plans to add any, but of course the realistic speeds are never the maximum possible.

well with att and my current SGS1 i get 6.5mbps on speedtest.net, and have actually personally seen download speeds of 9300kbps using TubeMate

Network 3 have been awesome since I joined
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I live in Belfast and Vodafone is the best for data here. 3G availability widely and it's pretty fast. Used my mate's o2 Desire yesterday (compared to my girlfriend's VF Desire) and I ran out of patience with it.

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Im jealous of 6.5 mbps, it's also nice to see confirmation about o2, it wasn't just me, I might publish my findings in other parts of the forum as it does not only apply to samsung galaxy s'
Edit as promised more speedtest proof
This is o2 payg with full signal strength in west london I repeated the test several times as I couldn't believe my eyes
Edit more from speedtest this time I have managed to borrow a virgin contract sim (uses T-Mobile) same as the o2 test west London full signal

was with o2. their speed are terrible around my area less then 0.5 mbps. now i am considering three, they have very good 3g coverage and best of all their AYCE data.

I would also like to vouch for Orange. The speed appears to vary depending on the signal rather than the network as a whole. For example in central london I was getting super fast 3g (streaming live sport and even tethering it to the laptop to get live sport) but in Northampton the 3g was quite slow. In Leicester the 3G is moderately quick but in some areas (despite being in the centre of the city) I didin't get 3g at all.
So in conclusion its the network coverage that varies rather than any kind of cap or poor service network wide.

benjatt said:
I would also like to vouch for Orange. The speed appears to vary depending on the signal rather than the network as a whole. For example in central london I was getting super fast 3g (streaming live sport and even tethering it to the laptop to get live sport) but in Northampton the 3g was quite slow. In Leicester the 3G is moderately quick but in some areas (despite being in the centre of the city) I didin't get 3g at all.
So in conclusion its the network coverage that varies rather than any kind of cap or poor service network wide.
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Fair comment, maybe I was to quick to dismiss orange, I already knew t mobile was pants, please post up speed test results.

Yea I just gave my subjective opinion so I'll put up the speed tests in the next week or so (I'm away at the mo)
Oh and I meant to ask - was there a particular thread you were referring to about the poor t-mobile/orange data?

benjatt said:
Yea I just gave my subjective opinion so I'll put up the speed tests in the next week or so (I'm away at the mo)
Oh and I meant to ask - was there a particular thread you were referring to about the poor t-mobile/orange data?
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Yes it's the thread where a group of forum members on here have managed to prove that t-mobile are supplying heavily reduced data performance unless you phone them up and twist there arm into enabling pda data rates on your sim.
I can't remember where the thread is though !

I was on O2 for 3 years until a month ago and I took their data speeds for granted.
In central London I was getting 3-4mbps solid no problems.
Went onto T-Mobile, the mast for which is pretty much next to the O2 one, best I could ever get is about 1.5mbps, averaging about 500-700kbps in exactly the same place. That was after ringing them several times to get the bloody 300kbps speed cap taken off.
I miss O2 and their overpriced contracts.

renegade1488 said:
I was on O2 for 3 years until a month ago and I took their data speeds for granted.
In central London I was getting 3-4mbps solid no problems.
Went onto T-Mobile, the mast for which is pretty much next to the O2 one, best I could ever get is about 1.5mbps, averaging about 500-700kbps in exactly the same place. That was after ringing them several times to get the bloody 300kbps speed cap taken off.
I miss O2 and their overpriced contracts.
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from what your saying, it seems that contract O2 performs much better than PAYG O2, I guess this is poissible as contract phones use the apn mobile.o2.co.uk and PAYG is payandgo.o2.co.uk, this would allow them to split their service ? if any peeps on here are on contract O2 please post your speedtest results.

im having a chat with o2 right now heres part of the conversation as im looking to get the sgs2 with them
You: sorry thats allowance i get allowances i work for talktalk broadband, what im looking for is download speeds
Shelley: Speeds of up to 21Mb per second.
Shelley: That better?
You: that hsdpa+?
Shelley: HSDPA. not +
Shelley: Would you like a link for all of the information you need?
You: yeh thanks, is that available on the mobile phone side? i know the dongles are faster, i know the sgs2 can support higher speeds but as far as i knew most networks actual speeds were upto 10meg, with only voda uk trialing 14meg later in the year, can you tell what speeds id get in my cell location
You: 3 tell me i can get 4meg
Shelley: Let me check for you.
Shelley: What i can make you aware is at the moment O2 is trialing a 4G network up and down the country, with estimated speeds of over 30MB/s. So you can expect massive speeds through this handset.
Shelley: How does that sound for you?
You: yeh wow thats cool
Shelley: Excellent!
theyre erecting a new mast near me yay lol - o2 = 4g = jizz lol

StickyGeko said:
im having a chat with o2 right now heres part of the conversation as im looking to get the sgs2 with them
You: sorry thats allowance i get allowances i work for talktalk broadband, what im looking for is download speeds
Shelley: Speeds of up to 21Mb per second.
Shelley: That better?
You: that hsdpa+?
Shelley: HSDPA. not +
Shelley: Would you like a link for all of the information you need?
You: yeh thanks, is that available on the mobile phone side? i know the dongles are faster, i know the sgs2 can support higher speeds but as far as i knew most networks actual speeds were upto 10meg, with only voda uk trialing 14meg later in the year, can you tell what speeds id get in my cell location
You: 3 tell me i can get 4meg
Shelley: Let me check for you.
Shelley: What i can make you aware is at the moment O2 is trialing a 4G network up and down the country, with estimated speeds of over 30MB/s. So you can expect massive speeds through this handset.
Shelley: How does that sound for you?
You: yeh wow thats cool
Shelley: Excellent!
theyre erecting a new mast near me yay lol - o2 = 4g = jizz lol
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lol gota love o2 chat ...... this is hilarious
Shelley: Are you not thinking of getting this today and getting rid if Orange?
Shelley: They are not very good as a provider, they ripped me off. And i am not just saying that because i work for 02, i do not like them at all!
You: yes ive had enough with orange to be honest, too many dropped calls and incorrect bills, they gave me a gesture of goodwill of £50 a month or 2 back because the kept incorrectly billing me
Shelley: They broke their contract with me and wouldn't help me with a broken handset,
Shelley: Yes, same with me and over charging and i got a lot of bank charges which weren't in my account and so i was getting charges left right and centre for a handset i couldn't even use! So i told them to stick it!
You: not good, lol hahaha

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Cheap GPRS

I've been happily using my XDA for almost a year now, the only complaint being the amount i spend on the GPRS though O2.
What are the other UK networks charging these days? I've heard about others charging as little as £10 for 100MB's, is this true?
I'm about to come to the end of my contract and will be getting an XDA II as soon as it does but i may well get it sim-free and go with another network.
Do i have other options i.e. sticking in a pay-as-you-go sim from another network when i want to use it heavily?
Thanks for your help.
i think the problem may be when you dont say where you are from
the only company's which people can be sure are represented most places are fodaphone, tmobile, o2 and orange and maybe a few others
and those are rearely the cheap ones
oop's sorry. I'm in the UK
t-mobile in usa - $19 a month - unlimited gprs
(not that that would help you 2000+ miles away)
-Mario
mario,
how do you find the gprs speed thru tmobile?
they say its 40k-80k
but i dont think thats true... it takes me too long to download a small 500k file. unless im doin something wrong!
do u have special settings?
to find the actual speed, i have no idea
the only settings i have, is for the gprs setting, it connects to internet2.voicestream.com
speed is up and down usually, right near a atenna (like near a mall or what not) perfect speed.
at work is another question... with 1 bar of signal i can stream 22k mp3s from di.fm (requires ipv6 which tmobile or ie for pocket pc comes with, cause it works)
work is a office full of computers, in a big brick building... signal is allways bad indoors.
-Mario

[Q] whats the best Uk network for S2?

As the Thread title suggests, i would like to know what the best UK network for the S2 is? I have an order on hold with orange at the moment for £35p/m
after screening the forums a little bit it seems that orange isnt the best network provider to go with, because although coverage is great, their network speeds are rubbish...what would you guys recommend in terms of best network provider for this phone?
ps bear in mind i am in the london and braintree areas quite a lot
the million pound question??. Am O2 I think internet speed rubbish I have never seen 3g icon on my screen lol
as far as i have been able to read, vodaphone seem to utilize the s2's networking capabilities best,
reading on the general section, i found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14400787&postcount=30
in the thread "SGS2 now available on orange UK"
which made me wonder - three mobile seem to have good deals for cheapness....£26pm gets you a free phone, 1gb data, unlim texts etc, so i would go for them, however the network speed is something i have recently been coveting....anyone had any speedtests done while on three?
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
Lennyuk said:
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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im jealous i must admit, but what about networking speeds? or do you cope just fine with the speeds as they are? this phone is capable of loading faster than most home broadbands if i believe what iv been told...i cant tell what speeds i have as my hd2 wont connect to the internet - hardware issue :/
Lennyuk said:
Well my contract with orange UK (that you wont be able to match as I am a special customer....very long story...) is
Dolphin 35 + 1gb extra data for £20 a month 18 month contract with a free SGS2
Just waiting for the SGS2 to be ordered as they screwed up!!!!
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Thpefial? (Sorry - couldn't resist...)
Best network is relative to signal strength in the areas of phone use for each network .
Data its always said that 3 are best for data true not a clue .
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Three are the only network that offer truly unlimited data on the one plan with a free phone for £40 I think. I've seen my mate's speedtest with a Desire HD consistently hitting 9+ mb the past month as they've activated the HSPA+ network. Three's signal is crap indoors though, due to the part of the spectrum they use not penetrating buildings well (so I'm told).
I'm on O2 (central London), I'm guaranteed H or H+ signals, consistently above 3 mbps.
Well, if you care about heavy duty data usage, go with 3 (So long as you're in an area with decent signal - it gets a bit ropy up north).
I'm with 3UK, purely for the genuinely unlimited data (although I've been with them for years and always went over the 1gb limit without charge before), in London their speeds are great, usually have a ping under 100, down of 3-5 in perfect conditions, up of 1-1.5 (via the SpeedTest app)
I will say in the area i live (oxfordshie) 3 is exelent,i get hsdpa just about every where. I get 5700 on speed test app at work-on vodafone and orange i get 20
three mobile it is then i will go to the three store and pick it up (because i cannot wait for it to be delivered lol) once i get my new bank card and PIN code through
Yup, I'm on Three also and whilst their results vary (I get anywhere from 0.11 to 5.14Mbps Download speed here in Cumbria!) the main selling point for me is truly unlimited data on the One Plan with tethering allowed! There may be others offering true unlimited data (talkmobile? Giff Gaff?) but I don't think others allow tethering... I should note they acknowledge that they throttle their data at peek times (6pm to midnight) but I'd be surprised if other networks don't do the same, and my data speeds are generally fine.
I'm on 3 and its crap indoors. Do get 3g a lot. I buy the fone instead of contract because u pay for another fone as the contracts are like 2 year plans. Im on a SIM contract for 15 quid and get 600mins 1 gb internet 3000texts which is good but hate the signal
I was with three but dropped them because of awful building penetration, their signal is just rubbish indoors which was no good to me at work when my phone spent all day trying to cling onto a scrap of signal. I could receive texts at my desk but if I moved the phone or tryed a voice call it would drop signal altogether.
Moved to Orange, very happy now. Speeds aren't as fast as Three for data but come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
ADSrox0r said:
come on, what are you doing running torrents off your phone or something?
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Pretty much, yeah. Long commute, if someone tells me about a good film at work.. Piracy is a way of life

Sprint let me go ETF free

After a few different phones, reporting poor service, receiving an Airave (my house being one of the only places I get a decent speed at)...I decided today to call and complain about the service again, average 3g speeds here are 10-125kb and some places calls can't even be made (i live 45 min south of boston).
Apparently, the usage has gone up, so the already weak service here is far worse then it used to be. For the first time a tech support guy actually gave some legit information back to me. Said signal here ranged from fair to roaming.. and sent me to retention.
I moved my wife and I from T-Mobile/AT&T, payed $260 in ETF.. so this BLOWS, I love my EVO 3D, but the service is too poor to justify paying the bill.
Anyways, the point to my post.. if your service is super awful like mine, and you are new.. you may have a way out if you can't deal with awful service for the next 2 years.
Guess I'll be Ebaying the phones and waiting for the SGS2 or something... lames - please don't pm me about buying the phones, we're keeping them until the end of the month, and I probably don't trust you
I don't see how your getting a bad signal with an airave in the house. I got one and I have full bars everywhere in my 4 bedroom home. I start dropping bars about 50 ft from the house. If you have a airave then you have internet obviously, invest in a good wireless N router and your phone will be stupid fast on wifi.
Oh my house is great, but that is about it.
I fixed my first post... the issue isn't at my house.
Oh ok. I know what your sayin now. T-mobile is getting the evo 3d so its a win win for you.
phatmanxxl said:
Oh ok. I know what your sayin now. T-mobile is getting the evo 3d so its a win win for you.
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I thought it was going to Canada or something, when is that supposed to come out? I just left T-Mobile after 7 years or something haha
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_evo_3d_with_tmobile_usa_3g_band_passes_fcc_testing-news-2837.php
Cool, thanks. From the way I took it, I had until 9/7 to port my number. So all together right now I'm kinda in a bad spot, I'm not buying a phone I don't want. I sold my old phone, so I'll prob be crying for a month with a G1 in my hand until something worth buying comes out
G1 was an awsome phone, Im pretty sure its got gingerbread too lol. Well good luck to ya, I know if you sign a two year contract and already have a phone you can save your "upgrade" for the phone you want when it drops.
T mobile isn't getting the EVO,,that was for Canada so they reported
spreading the infection in 3D
Wait, is your evo 3d available for purchase? No need to ebay it, you have a potential buyer right here. I'm in the market for one. Send me a PM and let's discuss!
ktrotter11 said:
T mobile isn't getting the EVO,,that was for Canada so they reported
spreading the infection in 3D
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That is what I thought. I'm not trying to be buying any full priced phone when buying a house at the end of the month haha
ktrotter11 said:
T mobile isn't getting the EVO,,that was for Canada so they reported
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Did you read my link? I don't think the FCC and T-mobile USA have anything to do with Canada.
From a Sprint Tech
the reason why you still have poor data tx/rx rates even with an air rve is because the airraves do not support data, only voice and text. they are designed basically to do your calls/text via VIOP, and it transmits 1x cdma service(which does no web). you cant use the airrave with out good high speed internet, and you can use your wifi on the phone(assuming you have a wireless router) to make up the for the low data speeds. If you dont have a wireless router, you can go buy one for 35-110 bucks and that would resolve your issues.
jboy772 said:
the reason why you still have poor data tx/rx rates even with an air rve is because the airraves do not support data, only voice and text. they are designed basically to do your calls/text via VIOP, and it transmits 1x cdma service(which does no web). you cant use the airrave with out good high speed internet, and you can use your wifi on the phone(assuming you have a wireless router) to make up the for the low data speeds. If you dont have a wireless router, you can go buy one for 35-110 bucks and that would resolve your issues.
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I understand where the op is coming from, he said the airave works, its just his general area sprint is lacking in coverage. Im in somewhat in the same boat as him, but I plan on moving next year to a 4g area so I'm just going to hang in there, I like sprint phones and their unlimited plans.
Im also using an airave and wifi, and most places I go have wifi. So I get by.
jboy772 said:
the reason why you still have poor data tx/rx rates even with an air rve is because the airraves do not support data, only voice and text. they are designed basically to do your calls/text via VIOP, and it transmits 1x cdma service(which does no web). you cant use the airrave with out good high speed internet, and you can use your wifi on the phone(assuming you have a wireless router) to make up the for the low data speeds. If you dont have a wireless router, you can go buy one for 35-110 bucks and that would resolve your issues.
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I think I made it clear in my OP that the service in my area sucks, exceptionally bad.. except for at my house, where I have an airave (airvana actually) and my wireless n router
And maybe one or two other spots have a decent connection, but it'll be a mb of service 1 block, and the next it is 125kb
I'm not at fault for the poor signal which is why Sprint is allowing me to leave without an ETF
phatmanxxl said:
I understand where the op is coming from, he said the airave works, its just his general area sprint is lacking in coverage. Im in somewhat in the same boat as him, but I plan on moving next year to a 4g area so I'm just going to hang in there, I like sprint phones and their unlimited plans.
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I don't blame you if you are moving to a 4g area, I'm actually moving at the end of the month, to the next city over, which has even worse coverage lol. Funny thing is, it isn't like I'm out in some obscure area either...
In general I think Sprint has over looked my area, Providence, RI has ****ty 3g/4g too, very mediocre .. though that is 40 min from me anyways.. sucks, at least I'm not a data hog so not having unlimited won't be an issue most of the time for me.
Im moving north of Atlanta, 4g and 3g are roaring fast there plus its civilization, ill just have to get used to stoplights and traffic again lol.
I was in the far west suburbs of Chicago a few months ago and the sprint and wimax data was painfully slow, almost unusable, So some populated areas are better than others.
phatmanxxl said:
Im moving north of Atlanta, 4g and 3g are roaring fast there plus its civilization, ill just have to get used to stoplights and traffic again lol.
I was in the far west suburbs of Chicago a few months ago and the sprint and wimax was painfully slow, almost unusable, So some populated areas are better than others.
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This area was gigantic for Nextel years ago, we have like 4-6 Sprint stores within a 5-10 min drive of some sorts here.. its kind of amazing that the service here is so lacking. **** they just opened up a new Sprint store (2nd of the city) where I'm moving too.. and the house I'm buying hardly has even a bar outside of it.
T-Mobile I had 1-1.4 mb dl , and good voice just about everywhere and my CR-48 has comparable data speeds at least with the free Verizon coverage. My wife had a 3GS (I finally converted her with the EVO 3D!) which was probably slightly under Tmobile/Verizon.... I just don't think Sprint has enough juice in this area to cover all the people who got on the Evo/Evo 3D in the past year.
New Bedford isn't exactly in the middle of no where.. I'm moving across the bridge..
The sucks man well you have a change to try another carrier now, if verizon got lte where you live you should try then out, I have them too and speeds are amazing, my 3G varies usually I get almost a mb/s and sometimes 300kb/s but is not as often as before
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Bye Photon/Sprint

Well I had the Photon for about 3 weeks, great phone..
Anyways, I just got tired of Sprints trash network, crap signal inside building..
Got terminated etf free and instantsly went to ATT and grabbed sgsii skyrocket.
all I can say is... why didnt I do this months ago. Speeds are never below 3 megs and **** gets done when you click enter.. no buffering issues either.
Dont even mention lte.. wicked fast and extremely stable.
In my extremely dense school where sprint wouldnt even get signal roaming I have 3/4 bars of lte.. just makes me cream myself..
this is just a small review that I suggest everyone that is bothered by these network problems.
inb4 flame
inb4 sprint dickriders
inb4 carecup is empty
Excellent. I'm very glad you're happy.
I'm different.
I'd rather deal with slower 3G speeds and iffy 4G coverage than have to count bytes each month. I don't want to worry about my usage. I know that my data usage is going to rise each month and I don't want that albatross around my neck.
For me, Sprint is better.
My signal is fine here, while AT&T's is terrible, if and when it exists at all.
Different areas get different results and nobody really cares.
Nice Phone. Very Nice phone. I question your comments on why, but you got a nice phone.
1. You already stated your in a dense area.
2. (and I have personally checked) All carriers on their map state, even with excellent strength, "May work inside some buildings"
3. I live in a dense area, my bars are usually packed? Sprint cannot control the mountains?
4. Hows the battery with that LTE?
Again, nice phone and no doubt better than most in the food chain, but.......JMO.
dsims7_2000 said:
Nice Phone. Very Nice phone. I question your comments on why, but you got a nice phone.
1. You already stated your in a dense area.
2. (and I have personally checked) All carriers on their map state, even with excellent strength, "May work inside some buildings"
3. I live in a dense area, my bars are usually packed? Sprint cannot control the mountains?
4. Hows the battery with that LTE?
Again, nice phone and no doubt better than most in the food chain, but.......JMO.
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1. dense I meant the school building. Im in Houston so no mountains.
2. Oh no lol my sprint phone couldnt hold signal worth of poop in a lot of buildings. Even wrapping my giant hands around it, the signal would drop a couple of bars
3. Ah well Sprint is great in my opinion if your not inside a building. (signal) data is only good in the very late night and early mornings or low population areas
4. I wake up at 6 everyday and it lasts till about 7-9 pm depending on the usage.
Draiko said:
Excellent. I'm very glad you're happy.
I'm different.
I'd rather deal with slower 3G speeds and iffy 4G coverage than have to count bytes each month. I don't want to worry about my usage. I know that my data usage is going to rise each month and I don't want that albatross around my neck.
For me, Sprint is better.
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I swallowed an ETF fee from verizon just to "stick-it-to-'em" when they switched to tiered data. I honestly appreciate the unlimited data and cheaper pricing and I'm a big fan of them and all... but sprints 3g is absolutely, pathetically insulting and painstakingly embarrassingly slow.
I dont live in a large market but verizon just fired up LTE in the area and my girls Bionic pulls down 14mbps. 14MBPS!!!! Thats faster than my home internet connection!
I just ran speed test on sprint, its in line with all my previous runs: 115kbps down.
One.
Hundred.
fifteen.
kbps.
I'm counting the days until my contract is up and sprint has better got some serious 4g improvement cause this is ridiculous.
*edit* the speeds I get with sprint dont even qualify as "3G." Wikipedia: To meet the IMT-2000 standards, a system is required to provide peak data rates of at least 200 kbit/s (about 0.2 Mbit/s) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G)
That is why also im doing the etf on sprint and going back to big red. 4gb data right now for 30the and i used maybe 1.5 amonth on sprint. Data speeds are horid here in omaha and im just done with it
You think y'all got it bad?
Just tasted and got 34.9KB/s. Go go US Cellular. Loovvveee the phone and prices, haaatteeee the speed and 5/gb limit.
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Yeah, wow im surprised im not getting flamed..
anyways, yeah I was with sprint since '99 .. well nextel.
It does suck though, having capped data, but ill get used to it
and your right with 200kb speeds, it wouldnt even be possible to go past like 2 gigs of data.
Also, the FCC denied Lightsquared to roll out lte.. so lte for sprint shouldnt be seen until at the least 2013
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Yeah, wow im surprised im not getting flamed..
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Lol....you almost sound disappointed.
It all depends on the area. Where I live Sprint doesn't have any 4g but the 3g speeds aren't too bad. Signal is actually pretty good no matter where I go. Sitting in my office right now I have full bars and hardly ever do I drop a call.
As for AT&T, not sure why anyone signs up with them. Possibly the worst customer service in the entire world not to mention they will steal your money if you are not looking (they have done it in the past and was proven in court). Have dealt with them numerous times over the years and I just can't do it. Sure, Sprint has their issues as well but nothing like AT&T. Just a terrible company.
I would of tried a new photon first
Good luck to u and ur sammy
The US is not rdy for gsm yet
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Im just waiting my time out. Sprint isnt going to get an ETF from me. My contract is up in 4 months and Im gone. Dont know where Im going.. maybe back to TMobile. From a customer service standpoint, they are the best Ive ever had by far.
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3g here in Iowa I have it 2 mbps
Before but no screenshot. I went from 200 to 2000 with 3g supercharged script
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Since the iPhone came out for sprint, and they singed up 700K new customers, the network has gone to CRAP. Not to mention getting rid of the premier program.
I'm an 8 year customer, and would bail in a heartbeat to a Verizon Nexus if it had unlimited internet.
But alias, they do not. I think sprint will fix things over this year, but it sucks in the interim.
Between the ICS development on the Photon, and my tethering... Sprint is hands down the way to go. I will grant you the fact that depending on your location... 3g speed is just plain bad. But between their 4g LTE rollout slated soon and my family plan with '6' lines... I will go with it.
Im counting days till when I can drop Sprint. I used to love the company and Ive been with them since 1998. However, Im tired of the slow data downloads, weak signal (which the tower is a half mile away form where I live) and what got me the most was the $10 extra for a 4g enabled phone without any 4g signals near me. I guess my friends always teasing me with their reliability on verizon doesnt help much either.
Mastajeff said:
Yeah, wow im surprised im not getting flamed..
anyways, yeah I was with sprint since '99 .. well nextel.
It does suck though, having capped data, but ill get used to it
and your right with 200kb speeds, it wouldnt even be possible to go past like 2 gigs of data.
Also, the FCC denied Lightsquared to roll out lte.. so lte for sprint shouldnt be seen until at the least 2013
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Now you are going to get flamed only because your last comment is inaccurate. Sprint is not relying on Lightsquared for LTE. This is not a Clearwire Wimax situation where Sprint relied entirely on Clearwire to provide 4G Wimax coverage.
Sprint is actually building out its own LTE network and Lightsquared was to be used for network hosting and be able to use part of the 1600 Mhz spectrum. All the Lightsquared situation is a lost revenue and spectrum capacity opportunity. In fact in your situation, Sprint is rolling out its LTE in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Kansas City, and Baltimore in June 2012 NOT 2013. Plus many markets will be announced later on this year by Sprint. Not only that but Sprint's new network vision tower infrastructure will improve 3G speeds dramatically with fiber/microwave backhaul.
I hope sprint improves it's 3g data before my contract is up and have some sort of 4g/lte in my area. I just lost my ns4g and looking to pick up a photon until then.
I know this thread is old but I wanted to just throw this out...
I switched to my friends extra Photon 4g he had lying around because my stupid girlfriend lost my phone. Anyways, I noticed that 3g speeds on THIS device is HORRIBLE. Before then I had the Evo3d and I was getting between 1.3-1.8 mbps on 3G. I've since then attributed the horrible 3g speeds to this phone just being bad with 3G and NOT Sprints network. Okay, maybe all those new iphone users may have slowed it down a bit but seriously, this phone makes me want to ****ing hurt someone.
For all those wondering if I tried tweaking my settings, I have. I did the whole ##3282## **** and messed around with the ip address's and the buffers and what have you but I still can't get passed the 800kbps mark. It actually sticks around 300-700 most of the time. This is totally unacceptable.
With that said, I don't blame Sprint and I actually like my $46 a month I pay for each line on my account (5 lines) WITH the extra 4g data charge. I can't really complain as my 4g is still fast. I'm just waiting to hop back on a HTC phone, the HTC Evo 4g LTE phone. I know the city where I'm currently at will not be getting lte anytime soon but I promise 3g speeds were never this horrible when I had my either my Evo 4g or my Evo 3d devices.
FU mopho 4g.
I just ETF with Sprint too (after 10 years with them) - Went and flash my photon with $40/mo using Metro, saved $40 a month and get the equivalent 3G service.
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GPRS on 3 UK

Hi all,
I have just switched to 3 in the UK and have noticed that there appears to be no data when the phone rolls back to 2G (out of 3G/HSPDA coverage) so I get no GPRS.
Is this right?
I am aware that 3 uses Orange for voice and calls when out of there own coverage areas, but should I not be getting GPRS on Orange?
Thanks.
Yep three are 3g or 3g+ only
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Oh dear..
Thanks for your reply.
Is there any solution to get GPRS while on Oranges 2G network?
gavin watson said:
Oh dear..
Thanks for your reply.
Is there any solution to get GPRS while on Oranges 2G network?
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nope!!!!
Oh dear, dear!
This isn't good news for me! Slow connectivity is better than no connectivity!
Hmmm, seems like I am not 'On the network for built for the internet' if I get NO internet!
to be fair, i rarely find myself in an area of no signal, but when I am, 3's internet speeds are outrageously fast.
well worth it
It's ok in 97% if the UK when it's good it's very good but when it's bad it's bloody awful
I went to Scotland a week and found the 3% of the country without coverage it killed me no.internet or phone for that matter
In defense of 3 they are superb value where else could you get 2000 mins 5000 text 5000 3 to 3 minutes and unlimited internet for £36
I.use around 7gb per month via my phone and tethering
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Hi guys,
I'm not denying when there is 3G (and above) coverage it is very good. I was just shocked to learn that there is no GPRS backup, for me I'd rather have very slow data than none at all... It would appear from what I've found out that they don't want the users to have 'a bad customer experience' when on GPRS thinking that it's a slow network... Not sure I agree with that, especially when you desperately need data, even it is it GPRS...
I would really like them giving users the option to fallback onto GPRS by maybe manually entering APN settings, this way at least having a choice (knowing that it is GPRS and not their own 3G network)...
Interesting...
mancuk29 said:
It's ok in 97% if the UK when it's good it's very good but when it's bad it's bloody awful
I went to Scotland a week and found the 3% of the country without coverage it killed me no.internet or phone for that matter
In defense of 3 they are superb value where else could you get 2000 mins 5000 text 5000 3 to 3 minutes and unlimited internet for £36
I.use around 7gb per month via my phone and tethering
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exactly i couldnt put it better myself
mancuk29 said:
It's ok in 97% if the UK when it's good it's very good but when it's bad it's bloody awful
I went to Scotland a week and found the 3% of the country without coverage it killed me no.internet or phone for that matter
In defense of 3 they are superb value where else could you get 2000 mins 5000 text 5000 3 to 3 minutes and unlimited internet for £36
I.use around 7gb per month via my phone and tethering
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I agree with you 100% I went with three's one plan for the data, this month I have used 8.7GB from the 14th yes their signal can be sketchy at times but if I had a 1GB plan I would have clocked up hundreds on my bill so its bearable for me.
When I say their signal is sketchy I get a full signal on my window ledge but on the sofa under the window I get 1 or 2 bars literally less than one foot distance.
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I'm not complaining about the price or the allowance, nor about their network speed. I was just saying it would be nice to have the option to fallback to GPRS data when 3G isn't available. I had no diea this would happen when I signed up 5 days ago, and it is a problem for me to not have that...
So far I am happy enough with the speed and the allowance, etc... Which is why I moved over to 3 in the first place...
If you are in a marginal signal area, you may have a reasonable signal outside your property, but because 2100mhz signal doesn't penetrate walls well, it may not get inside your house. Walk around the outside perimitter of you property, checking the signal strength as you move - if there is a good signal, then there are solutions for getting that signal inside using 2100mhz signal boosters, their use seems to be a legal grey area - but no one has been prosecuted for using them in the uk as I understand to-date. I too have no signal in 80% of the inside of my house yet am very close to a 3uk mast, but I live in a building with 2ft thick walls. I have just installed a signal repeater and, although I am still playing about with the siting of the antenna and booster, it has deffinately made a difference.
If you have only just taken out your contract with 3uk - you may be able to get out of it if you wish - they are obliged to check that there is an available signal at your registered address and should have refused your application if not. Hope this helps
gavin watson said:
I'm not complaining about the price or the allowance, nor about their network speed. I was just saying it would be nice to have the option to fallback to GPRS data when 3G isn't available. I had no diea this would happen when I signed up 5 days ago, and it is a problem for me to not have that...
So far I am happy enough with the speed and the allowance, etc... Which is why I moved over to 3 in the first place...
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Three only use 3g I would when I first signed up to them I did ask about 3g coverage and they said they only use 3g, ask the right questions and you would have known, if it's only been 5 days you should be able to cancel if you want (I think three say 14 days and get another contract, but I personally wouldn't I'm happy with them because of the unlimited data.
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gavin watson said:
Hi guys,
I'm not denying when there is 3G (and above) coverage it is very good. I was just shocked to learn that there is no GPRS backup, for me I'd rather have very slow data than none at all... It would appear from what I've found out that they don't want the users to have 'a bad customer experience' when on GPRS thinking that it's a slow network... Not sure I agree with that, especially when you desperately need data, even it is it GPRS...
I would really like them giving users the option to fallback onto GPRS by maybe manually entering APN settings, this way at least having a choice (knowing that it is GPRS and not their own 3G network)...
Interesting...
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i wouldnt get too attached. 2G will be turned off and reassigned for new spectrum auctions in the very near future. i have been on 3 for 2 years and i have never not had 3G for long.
GPRS cant cope with normal web anyway. it was designed for WAP. its not a big loss trust me. At least you can still make calls.
delsus said:
ask the right questions and you would have known, if it's only been 5 days you should be able to cancel if you want (I think three say 14 days and get another contract, but I personally wouldn't I'm happy with them because of the unlimited data.
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I did ask, they told me that when out of their coervage it reverted to Orange, which I was on before. What they didn't say was that when it reverted to Orange, it wouldn't include data. I'm not saying they lied, they were however, a little economical with the truth!
I have spoken with them, they are allowing me a little more time (over 7 days) to see how it all works out. As I travel quite a bit I will have to see how much this affects me. I think I will end up staying as it makes more sense for me to have unlimited data than pay Orange quite a bit over my monthly plan for the extra data used...
gavin watson said:
I did ask, they told me that when out of their coervage it reverted to Orange, which I was on before. What they didn't say was that when it reverted to Orange, it wouldn't include data. I'm not saying they lied, they were however, a little economical with the truth!
I have spoken with them, they are allowing me a little more time (over 7 days) to see how it all works out. As I travel quite a bit I will have to see how much this affects me. I think I will end up staying as it makes more sense for me to have unlimited data than pay Orange quite a bit over my monthly plan for the extra data used...
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Ahh I would recommend staying, while three have a lot of drawbacks the well priced unlimited data makes it worth it imo up to now on a 1GB plan I would have an extra £700+ on my bill and I still have 13 days on this billing cycle. Anything other than unlimited data is unacceptable now in my eyes.
The only other option for unlimited data is t-mobile but it will cost more (I think £40+ with the phone)
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Three has been 3G only for quote a few years now, when they first launched they used to use Orange or O2 for 2G fallback but they didn't renew these agreements as their own 3G coverage was deemed strong enough.
It would not have taken much research to find out they have no 2G coverage, also if you just asked someone before taking the contract out...did the name Three not give you any indication?
the only thing going for three is the 'cheaper' priced tarrifs, much faster 3G network and no fair usage, apart from that their offers are on parr with other special offers on other networks.
The lack of 2g is a bit of an issue if you are in a no coverage area, however if you do have coverage your fine.
A|ex said:
the only thing going for three is the 'cheaper' priced tarrifs, much faster 3G network and no fair usage, apart from that their offers are on parr with other special offers on other networks.
The lack of 2g is a bit of an issue if you are in a no coverage area, however if you do have coverage your fine.
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And that's what matters these days, data costs a lot more than voice and texts, you can rack up a larger bill in a shorter time with data than with anything else, also in the world of data speed matters a lot. Lets not forget the economy I get 5000 texts, 2000 mins and unlimited data for £34/month nothing beats that with a galaxy S3 and lets not forget the £700+ on my bill for data I have saved with 3, I don't think it's possible to do that with voice and texts.
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I went through hell to get a 3 contract cancelled and a MIFI portable broadband dongle contract scrapped because I couldn't get a 3G signal. They dropped 2G in places they deem to be "good coverage" and are turning more and more of their back up network (Orange) off.
They are the worst provider by far. Now with T-Mobile and I get T-Mo and Orange coverage since the merger. Can switch as I please.
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