Travelling overseas regularly, I input appointments based on the destination's local time. (ie with no consideration for changing time zones)When it comes to arriving in the destination, I change clock settings to the new time (si\o that I can continue to use Alarm, etc), which completely screws up the appointment times.
MTEKK responses indicate that I have to accept it, but surely this is a pain in the ass for alot of XDA users. Summer time is going to be an even bigger issue here between Brisbane and Sydney with daylight savings.
Any suggestions ?
what I've had to do is just not change the timezone but just change the actual time, so when I go from Europe to the US etc, instead of changing the timezone I just go from 19.00h to 12.00h on the clock and leave it as that. Probably the only option because every programme I've seen doesn't actually work.
This also annoys the hell out of me, but I once saw a logical explanation of why it is so. It's to stop appointments overlapping in your agenda when (obviously ) they don't overlap in real life.
I think the only solution is to change your XDA to the destination timezone as you create the appointment, then change back again once you've finished. That way the appointment will appear correctly when you travel to the destination and set your timezone accordingly.
Wen Information Solutions Inc. do make an application called PI Correct Time which fixes this annoying quirk but unfortunately it is not freeware, selling for US24.95
Full details available from their web site http://www.webis.net/p_correcttime.php
Ed
I tried the PI Correct Time thing and it didn't work, stuff changed anyway... not about to pay $25 for that either, maybe like $5, for that much $$ I'll keep manually changing the bloody time
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I tried the PI Correct Time thing and it didn't work, stuff changed anyway... not about to pay $25 for that either, maybe like $5, for that much $$ I'll keep manually changing the bloody time
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Well it does work (well at least on my XDA II) but I didn't buy it either as I felt it was too expensive for the amount of travelling I do.
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why am I the only one on #xda-developers for the past week? )
Because IRC-chat is not a feature people want on a site like this, at this point in time, I guess. I introduced it because I thought it could add to the interaction. And because it was a trick I knew how to do.
I'm guessing it will find a use as soon as, for whatever reason, there's 10 or more people on at any one time, and the forum just gets annoying because some people start posting one-liner messages every minute or two.
There is a kind of instant messenger plug-in for this phpBB thing, we might want to give that a try at some point...
But I guess it wouldn't hurt of more people hung out at #xda-developers: I'll open a window... Having said that: being a developer box, my machine boots more often than your average PC...
Gotta finish some other stuff first though. Expect new a XDA-developer toy and a (minor) update of The Manipulator this afternoon.
Organisation is the key...
What about finding a common time of the day when people are on-line.
The you can have some form of chatting session.
I know that I come and check the site most evenings when I get home from work around 7pm GMT.
POLL in order do you not think....
After all we're mostly European (not all I know!) so a common time should be quite easy...
MmF
Well, my router reboots twice a month or so irssi rulz ;-)
but my line is dead now, so I depend on the crappy T39m GPRS connection... man this sux
Another problem is I couldn't figure out what servers I can connect to for IRCnet... Any suggestion?
Is there any software out there that will monitor my phone usage (ie calls, texts, internet etc) and keep a real time figure of how much I've spent? I seem to remember seeing something like this around a while ago but can't find it now.
dont see how a general tool would be possible
phone companies have all sorts of strange things with
call a sellected group cheaper
and call cheap within a aere
and call cheap from time 1 to time 2
and ...............
a calc tool would have to have as many options as
the sum of all phonecompanys options
try 'phone dashboard' @ handango.com. i think it only record voice calls.
shouldn't have thought at least a simple program would be too difficult. You tell it how much you pay for certain calls between certain times, when/if you have free minutes, how much texts are. I know they keep adding various offers and schemes but a program could be created to cover the basics.
yes but many the phone company is really not that intrested in us knowing how much cash we give them
we may limit ourselfs
maybe somebody made a program themselfs
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Sounds like a pyramid scheme to me.
If it was that easy to obtain high value gods for peanuts I think people would be selling the goods on ebay rather than the link to the site.
Well you don't get the phone for peanuts.. If you look, 40 people need to buy the product from the company..
So 45 x £20 = £900
So the company makes £900, and buys you an XDA II from it, and keeps the rest. Seems possible to do. Actually, it's quite a good idea. I was careful however. I used my credit card do to the transaction, so if its anything dodgy - and they try and screw me over, I always have the option of a charge back.
Not sure how long it will take to fill the list, but I'll keep you updated if it works out (or if it doesn't!) ;-)
Well, if they are offering EVERYONE on the list a phone, then I dont see how they can do this...
J
not to mention that I got 2 boosters from ebay for $1!! and with free shipping
but NO they dont work its just a sticker with golden patern printed on it.
This is foolishness. Such a system cannot possibly sustain itself long enough to fulfill the measure of its promise. Mind that you aren't required to wait longer than the charge dispute deadline for your credit card to receive your "gift", eh?
Actually, since your transaction was for a signal booster, if you actually get a signal booster you may not have a valid claim in the eyes of your bank should you dispute on the grounds that you didn't receive the gift.
If it SOUNDS too good to be true…
-nerrdo
I think you didn't understand the nature of the way it works...
It's not EVERYONE on the list that gets the XDA II...
There is one person at the top... Then once the list fills up, they get the XDA II... Then the person who second in the list, moves up in to first place... Once the list fills up again, they get the XDA... etc etc...
It was only £20... So I don't really care if it has the chance of getting me a sim free XDA II in a few months time
This is really a pyramid scheme. If the list fills up, there are 3 possibilities i see happening at that point:
1) Everone except #1 is out of luck. A new list is started for people that have not purchased anything...
2) #1 gets the gift, and everyone moves up a spot. That then leaves 1 spot open for the 'new guy' when he makes a purchase. Once that happens, everyone moves up again. 1 spot opens, and a new guy gets in the list. So, each time they give a phone away, they are only getting 1 new purchase. THIS CANNOT WORK!
3) #1 gets the gift, and everyone else moves up... But you have to create 40 lists now, so that they (the sellers) can get the new people in there (by making a purchase)... If you are 2nd, you get to be first on a new list, and you need to find 39 people to make a purchase-Filling the list. Well, what about #3 on the list. What happens to him? He moves to #2 on SOME list, it cannot be the same list that you are on, can it? If it is, then we are back to option 2 above. So, whenever a phone is given away, there must be 39 new lists created, in some manner, that moves everyone up a spot, but still leaves all the 'open spots' for the people that are putting money into the system.
Without these new purchases, the system fails...
In re-reading your explanation, it sounds like the 'list' is a list of lists, and you are always at the 'top' of your list, even though your list is maybe 2nd or 3rd or so in the 'list of lists'. So, once it is your turn at the #1 spot, your list gets filled, Woo hoo!...
BUT, each time someone gets their list filled, it is creating a new 'list of lists'. So, when do those lists get filled??? After yours, I would hope!
Goodness. There is some math wiz out there that can figure out how long it will take to get your free phone (and how much money the system is generating in that same timeframe.)
This is a pyramid scheme. Good luck. Maybe you will get your phone, I hope so. Let us know!
J
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Well you don't get the phone for peanuts.. If you look, 40 people need to buy the product from the company..
So 45 x £20 = £900
So the company makes £900, and buys you an XDA II from it, and keeps the rest.
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are you stupid?? that £900 there is for him to buy himself a mobile you are one of his 45 people needed for him to get this phone!!!
you will still need to get about 44more people so that you move to the top of the pyramid!
gawd by the time you get that many peeps xda 3 will be out gawd some people always fall for these scams
yes it is possible for you to get it but its also a scam at the same time.
Hello has anyone used the money toolkit app to access your account?. On my iphone I have an official natwest app, which am sure is safe however a bit worried about this one cause it clearly states not affiliated with any bank.
Hi marvi0
I am Dan - founder of Money Toolkit, so obviously my opinion is not impartial
You are absolutely right to question apps like ours, and I wish more people were more diligent in this resect.
The biggest barrier to using any third party financial app is trust. For a small start up like ours, theres a bit of a catch 22 thing. The best way for people to trust our app is to see others using it, which means having enough early trail blazers use it.
I hope you do read some of the pages on our site regarding security - we have gone to very great lengths to keep you in charge of your credentials.
But this is still only our word. Probably the best thing to help increase your confidence is to look on our get satisfaction pages - (we cant delete messages, so it is an open conversation). Also check the comments on the Android market, again we can't even respond as the developer (which can be frustrating).
I hope others do respond on here, though we only have 500+ active users, so I would be a bit surprised.
There will always be some nervousness committing to our app, ultimately you have to go with your instincts - most people who see our app don't go on to enter their details, which is a shame in my opinion (obviously), because those who do find our app really useful.
Any questions, just ask.
Cheers.
Dan.
I have installed it and it looks pretty good
I have my fingers crossed regarding the security
Thanks for your reply so does this app actually allow me to view my natwest account information?
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Thanks for your reply so does this app actually allow me to view my natwest account information?
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it does yeah
you get an overview and then when you click on the account it drills down into the transactions
you cant see direct debits etc
also i wish you could change the theme, the wooden effect is a bit yukky, lol
but it does the job fine
also you have to manually log out or the app will run in the background, and if someone picks up your phone they can see the bank funds etc
winwiz - thanks for that.
You are not alone a few people don't like the wooden theme, so we are thinking of changing that.
The idea was that it continues the web site theme of being a work bench - continuing to follow the tool kit idea! We also didn't want to look like another boring bank, but probably it doesn't work that well on the phones.
Regarding logging out - we keep you logged in on purpose, (it will time out after 5 minutes) it is really annoying when you accidentally go back too far or want to swap to another app and have to log back in. Perhaps we should make that another setting?
some people even choose to keep their password remembered, and rely on the phones own security.
Remember this is a READ ONLY app, there is absolutely no way anyone could transfer funds, or make any changes to your bank.
We've got some nice things planned, like categorising your sending and graphs etc.
So any feedback or ideas really welcome - especially on the get satisfaction pages
Cheers.
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winwiz - thanks for that.
You are not alone a few people don't like the wooden theme, so we are thinking of changing that.
The idea was that it continues the web site theme of being a work bench - continuing to follow the tool kit idea! We also didn't want to look like another boring bank, but probably it doesn't work that well on the phones.
Regarding logging out - we keep you logged in on purpose, (it will time out after 5 minutes) it is really annoying when you accidentally go back too far or want to swap to another app and have to log back in. Perhaps we should make that another setting?
some people even choose to keep their password remembered, and rely on the phones own security.
Remember this is a READ ONLY app, there is absolutely no way anyone could transfer funds, or make any changes to your bank.
We've got some nice things planned, like categorising your sending and graphs etc.
So any feedback or ideas really welcome - especially on the get satisfaction pages
Cheers.
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Hi Dan,
Thanks for the great feedback. I'd like the option to customise the background, or if this is not possible, a solid black background. The timeout option should be configurable so the user can set the timeout period!
I look forward to the updates
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Any questions, just ask.
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Hi Dan,
Was just deliberating about using Money Toolkit and I had a couple questions. I've no knowledge in this area so please bare with me.
On the blog post here: hxxp://moneytoolkit.com/2010/09/secure-mobile-banking/
You said that:
"Yodlee then sells your bank data to the web site that you signed up".
Which I agree doesn't sound ideal - but they have to make money to be a sustainable business. How does money toolkit intend to make money? Which part of users financial details will be utilised to do this?
Secondly - regarding the security - the same blog post says:
"Not only would someone have to get access to your phone they would have to go to the same lengths as they would if they wanted to ‘hack’ into a bank, but they would have to do it three times!"
I presume that each location storing data can't login to the bank account in part. Instead a single server instance would have to login - requiring all 3 parts of the information to do so as banks usually randomise the questions asked. That presumption may be wrong however - but if it's correct does that mean a hacker could just hack that single server instance and intercept the traffic being sent to the bank?
You said that:
"Yodlee then sells your bank data to the web site that you signed up".
"but they have to make money to be a sustainable business. How does money toolkit intend to make money? Which part of users financial details will be utilised to do this?""
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We point out the normal relationship with Yodlee because Yodlee is an independant third party, they are the entity that you end up having the biggest contractual relationship with, in fact you sign over power of attourney to them when you use a web site that uses their aggregation (read the small print).
Regarding Money Toolkit making money, so far we don't! Of course, as you point out, we need to, so we have two options - we will ask for 50p per month (for example), or we will offer good deals with companies we trust (generally not main stream banking companies), where we will make a commission, if we do that we will make the commission obvious and share it with the person taking the offer.
"Secondly - regarding the security...
...does that mean a hacker could just hack that single server instance and intercept the traffic being sent to the bank?"
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Well your main assumptions is correct, but the reasoning not quite right. Firstly it is not just because of the random nature of the security questions that the three way split is valuable, but literally each part is utterly useless without the other parts, they are three parts of an encrypted file, which MUST come together before it is possible to decrypt.
The decrypted file (now only in volatile memory) then returns values to your phone and it is your phone which sends (over SSL) the right request to the bank, so they would have to breach our own SSL traffic (and custom encryption). Our IP's and the bank's are hard coded so a traditional man in the midle attack is ruled out. They would in effect, have to dupe you into downloading a dodgy Money Toolkit apk for this to be possible.
As you may know, the huge majority of security problems come from static data being discoverable (cd's and memory sticks left on trains for example). In our case the three seperate locations, including your phone make this kind of static data recovery, all but impossible.
However... you are right tht if someone managed to compromise the individual server that, at that moment (we have many), did that specific decryption: then if they were very smart, they might have the ability to detect your secure bank details. Though it would be almost imposible for that to happen and us not know about it. To alter our code and not have our systems detect the intrusion would be phenomenal.
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so we have two options - we will ask for 50p per month (for example), or we will offer good deals with companies we trust (generally not main stream banking companies), where we will make a commission, if we do that we will make the commission obvious and share it with the person taking the offer.
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Great, both options sound reasonable
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they are three parts of an encrypted file, which MUST come together before it is possible to decrypt.
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Neat, didn't realise.
MTK-Dan said:
The decrypted file (now only in volatile memory) then returns values to your phone and it is your phone which sends (over SSL) the right request to the bank, so they would have to breach our own SSL traffic (and custom encryption).
They would in effect, have to dupe you into downloading a dodgy Money Toolkit apk for this to be possible.
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That at least does sound secure (without understanding it more) I suppose there may also be security issues beyond a dodgy .apk file if the Android device has been rooted - because I think that allows apps to work outside of their sandbox. Again, I don't know enough about that.
Thanks for the detailed answers, it gives me more confidence in the service.
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Great, both options sound reasonable
Neat, didn't realise.
That at least does sound secure (without understanding it more) I suppose there may also be security issues beyond a dodgy .apk file if the Android device has been rooted - because I think that allows apps to work outside of their sandbox. Again, I don't know enough about that.
Thanks for the detailed answers, it gives me more confidence in the service.
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Is it possible to transfer money to whomever you want with this app?
Whenever my automated system finds an Android App Review online it sends an email to the developer telling the link to the review.
Each day I get between 5 - 10 thank you mails from both large app companies and indie developers, which I guess is a good indicator that it's a great tool in order to be able to take advantage of the review in their marketing. (I know how hard it is to be seen with a good app)
The question is, how do I monetize that service?
You have to pardon me if I sound desperate, but I actually am desperate and starting to worry about my ability to provide for my family.
Do you have an idea on how I could either monetize the service, or give it away to someone who can actually afford running it?
There are three main problems with it:
- Donations doesn't work (noone evidently donates anyway, so that went down the drain)
- Advertising, might have worked but there are far too few visitors.
- Most dev's have an invalid email address specified for their account at google play, which makes them not receive the notice from the service,
They can however subscribe for reviews of a certain package name, but how the heck could they when they don't even know the service exists?
I feel so stupid for having these great ideas and realize them, just to later find out that the only thing I've gained is more time away from my kids. I am honestly starting to loose all energy for the creation process of apps, web sites and services, just due to the fact that I can't even reach out enough to make anything out of it. And I can't afford advertising the services/apps/whatever crap I've made. Which even might be an indicator that I should stop trying, but I can't really do that either since I struggle to even afford the food for the month, yeah it's gotten that bad, and I hate sounding this pathetic.
Anyway, the link is in my sig called something like 'Android App Reviews' if you wish to have a look in order to give feedback on my question.
Maybe it's just a bad day 'cause I'm not usually this whiny, but even on a good day, the question stands.
Ah.. whatever. You have a good idea, let me know.
Later
very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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very nice idea, perhaps most of your emails mistakenly get weeded out as SPAM. I have an APP published on Google Play with our company gmail address there, but in more than one ocasion we had people trying to contact us and those emails got to the SPAM folder automaticly by mistake and we never saw them.
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Thanks, actually I was very glad myself when I got an email from my own service once, so yeah I think it's a great idea also.
So yes, one problem is, as you mention that most emails probably ends up marked as spam.
The other problem is money, it's running in a very low priced environment and actually doesn't require much juice to run but I can't afford maintaining it if it doesn't generate enough income to even support itself.
I would consider running it for nothing and I could even spend some personal money just for the satisfaction and appreciation, but given the gravity of the current financial situation in my family I can't do that.
So let's just see what happens, and thanks for taking the time to read.
Cheers
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it? As i said the idea is pretty awesome and you got it pretty much nailed down. Perhaps with a few tweaks to the search algorithm it could be the next Google for Apps!
have you tried selling it? For about how much would you be willing to sell it?
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- Actually, no I haven't tried selling it yet as I don't have any experience selling these kinds of things, and don't really know where to turn.. So I haven't really thought of for how much I should sell it for,
what do you think something like this could be worth?
Thanks again
Actually i have no idea loool
I would buy it if I had the means.
The value of it probably based on how many views does your site has per day, how many apps does it have categorized, how many it crawls per day... idk.
For example i tried searching it and it seems to have few apps catalogued... my app (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rtt3ch.suecaonline) isn't there.
EDIT: About how much do you spend on it a month? If it's not much and you're willing to give it away because can't afford it I wouldn't mind getting it lol, i think i can keep it alive.
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business. The ideas you have in your first post are too linear, especially for a small website with limited exposure (i'm sure you'll know ). Websites and youtube channels grow in exposure and size exponentially. Your site is still in the growth state of a business life cycle (the slowest, most challenging phase of business), so it's best to get as much exposure as possible, which means expanding.
- Try to create some sort of quasi-partnerships with other sites by sharing content or linking to each other. I've noticed you have some links on the side of your site, but try to get in contact with 'bigger names' out there
- Create a youtube channel and start reviewing apps like that. That way you have another avenue of traffic to your site
- Reviews of products may also be an idea.
Hope this helps It's what I can remember from business studies classes >.<
sup MetalDroid, any news?
I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business. Personally I'd make the homepage look more like a professional a sales page and introduce a subscription fee if you want to use it for more then one app. Or even a one time fee for more then one app. I end up logging onto my developer console several times a day so I'd gladly pay a couple bucks a month to have the reviews sent straight to my inbox.. Just my two cents
Hey!
Sorry for not posting an update, I've been having the mother of all flues on and off for the past several weeks now!
sup MetalDroid, any news?
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Well, actually yes. The associated twitter account is growing, and the number of web page visitors is also increasing. Very slowly but I'm still positive about it. I've also, shockingly, had a few interesting partnership/business proposals drop down in my mailbox, so I'm gonna have a look to see what is offered there..
If you want to generate income from your site, you have to run your site like a business.
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I'd go with what SammiSaysHello said, you need to run it like a business
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You're right, that seems like a logical next step. I might add a low subscription fee if you wish to use for more than one app,
that seems like a very good suggestion, I'll have to wait a couple of days though to see how things turn out from some of the email proposals
I've had.
If you're interested I'll keep you updated on what happens, and I'm very grateful for your input,
Cheers