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All,
i've tried several Roms in the last few months, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Each one has some nice applications and functions, which others do not have.
It's all fun to play with....but, with a risk: problems.
Unfortunately, my Prophet is also the one i must use on a daily basis for business use, so really must minimize the risk, i.e. freezes, lock ups, hard resets, etc.
Now the question might be a bit unfair, because we all have fun playing with the various ROMs, but, which WM6 is the safest ROM?
I mean, which does not have the following problems
Regular Freezes (occassionally is ok, but not regularly)
Hard resets (deadly)
Bluetooth not working
WLAN not working
Charging not working from USB or car or etc.
etc.
Again, don't misunderstand me: i have as much fun playing with the various ROMs as anyone, but the problem's mentioned above are starting to really bother me.
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
tjohnso1 said:
All,
i've tried several Roms in the last few months, and they all have their advantages and disadvantages. Each one has some nice applications and functions, which others do not have.
It's all fun to play with....but, with a risk: problems.
Unfortunately, my Prophet is also the one i must use on a daily basis for business use, so really must minimize the risk, i.e. freezes, lock ups, hard resets, etc.
Now the question might be a bit unfair, because we all have fun playing with the various ROMs, but, which WM6 is the safest ROM?
I mean, which does not have the following problems
Regular Freezes (occassionally is ok, but not regularly)
Hard resets (deadly)
Bluetooth not working
WLAN not working
Charging not working from USB or car or etc.
etc.
Again, don't misunderstand me: i have as much fun playing with the various ROMs as anyone, but the problem's mentioned above are starting to really bother me.
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
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Your prophet is a QTEKS200?
It is a Neo (O2)
I think the best thing for you is to use WM5 since there are too many known issues with WM6 on the prophet. the most stable ROM I've personally ever used was the shipped ROM from the manufacturer. Otherwise, you should have a good idea of what wm6 rom works for you since you've already tried them all.
I agree with Yellow. If you have to depend on your device for bussiness purposes, don't fool around. If your budget can carry it, find yourself an other for fun!
well, to be fair he only said he'd tried several, not all of them...
I agree with you, though, people should stick with WM5 for now if you/your work depends upon reliable features and rock-solid stability...Having said that, IMO the later WM6's are getting pretty good, general consensus seems to be pdaviet atm although i found fantastic mobiz to be pretty stable too.
I'm also hearing good things about Gullum's efforts...
to be honest I doubt there will ever be a fully bug-free+stable WM6, but then what do I know?*
*answer=not much but I'm learning (thanks to this forum! Cheers everyone! )
i also got the o2 neo, and there are no problems with the newest WM6 RomZ witz freezing or WLAN or whatever. I suggest u try the newest touch releases 4.0.0.6 . if it dosnt fit your needs just flash back to original o2 release u can find on the o2 homepage. greetz vince^^
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just flash back to original o2 release u can find on the o2 homepage. ^^
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Just wondering if O2 has release an official english version of WM6 somewhere?
I am using my s200 for business to. But as the autor said is funny to play with our gadget. I am using now CrystalV4(personal).I will not say is the best rom here but is the best for my needs. Fast,not many programs inside(The programs are good) but i dont need them. I just want office-some util for maintance-Gps softare & some games.Cube also is great but after sometime it get boring.
So +1 CrystalV4
tjohnso1 said:
All,
So, in the absence of someone telling me i must go back to WM5 (not!), which is the most robust WM6 rom?
thanks.
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I use my XDA Neo for work related purposes, too. I use Crystal V4 for about 3 or 4 days now and I have had no problems at all. And it is a very fast and responsive release, too. So this might be worth a try.
My take
I have tried several and found gullm's Touch VIII to be the best allround. It hasn't locked up and battery doesn't drain away. Everything I use seems to work fine.
Touch IX is absolutedly problem free here.
Some beauty-glitches, but works, and is pretty darn stable. Just avoid soft-resetting too much (bootscreenlockup, i believe every wm6 has that now and then). I have a full spritebackup on my SD, so when things do go wrong, hard reset, sprite, and in 5 minutes full running again. Now, I don't reset anymore. And, in 3 weeks, I did not HAVE to reset either ... It happens about 1 resets out of 10.
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Touch IX is absolutedly problem free here.
Some beauty-glitches, but works, and is pretty darn stable. Just avoid soft-resetting too much (bootscreenlockup, i believe every wm6 has that now and then). I have a full spritebackup on my SD, so when things do go wrong, hard reset, sprite, and in 5 minutes full running again. Now, I don't reset anymore. And, in 3 weeks, I did not HAVE to reset either ... It happens about 1 resets out of 10.
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Install a safe boot mode and you'll be able to bypass bootscreenlockup and avoid hardreset
Personally, i prefer Mysterious, its been so nice on my o2 neo. no hangup, no freezing, moreover its fast and stable.
but its totaly depends on your way of using prophet.
WM 5 is the safest but I have WM6 touch VIII and its been a few months with very rare soft resets. I do notice that you may also think it has to do with the rom but it really is the radio rom that is causing the freezes. My main rare issue is I cannot hang up the phone when it is linked to my car's bluetooth. This happens once a month.
Mysterious on O2 Neo- GREAT!
I use Mysterious on an O2 Neo with only ONE annoying problem - battery drain! The advantages far outweigh the disadvantages. Soon the Polaris (P3650) is coming to O2 Germany (called Orbit II) - and I will switch! Until then, my trusted Neo will bet there!
Cheers -
i was using touch 8 for a while then contemplated on whether to upgrade to touch 9, but after following the thread, opted for crystal v4.
v4 is running quite fast & stable at the moment. no hangups or anything.
haven;t tried mysterious or pdaviet at all, so can't really comment on them.
Most stable ROM
Personally i found that Prophet Touch IX is the most stable ROM i am using the same PDA as yours O2 XDA Neo German ROM downgraded to Aku2.2 and then flashed Prophet Touch IX and the device is working fine so far no bugs i have encountered (( i have been using the ROM for about 1 week now )) .
I've stuck with Touch VIII and had less problems with it than IX. Generally it's very, very good.
I prefer Crystal V4 with 4MB pagepool. Runnin SPB PocketPlus 4, HTC Cube, HTC Home, QuickMenu, S2U2, BatteryStatus, Lexisgoo/PocketMusic/SPB Insight/SPB Time/SPB Diary - all integrated into PocketPlus
And stil have 24.5MB of free RAM after loading them all up after a soft reset (and then closing all, ofcourse)
I haven't restarted my fon for 4 days now. And now hav 18.6MB after using IE, ActiveSync and many other pgms.
Its a solid ROM too... thanks to HMA for keeping it clean so that i could fill up wat ever I want
Hi,
i have recently bought an "O2 XDA Comet".
As i have read it should be the same device like the Atom Life.
Well the original ROM is a little bit buggy!!
The device sometimes hang and must be restarted.
I would like to change the ROM.
Is here any one who has the same problem?
Maybe somebody could give me an advice.
Ahh! And how can i make a Backup of the original ROM??
Thank You a Lot!!!
hm.. why atom have a lot of bug?? i hear many people complaint.. hmm..
Well as i already mentioned i have a german O2 Version and the Problem is, that it sometimes "hangs". I think it has something to do with the CPU-Management.
So i thought, maybe the AtomLife ROM is better in this way.
I also read that tere is a PowerManagement utility.
Well if it would not hang sometimes, i would change anything then.
(excet the unclosed Applications )
could anyone please introduce the most stable rom for Atom Life with M2D?
or I should install M2D seperately?
Mine is now having a big problem, once it suspended, it never wake. And I have no way to know that it is dead, coz the light is still flashing.
That's really bad, I missed a lot of calls.
I think Medkid has lot of stability to offer than the other ROM's but personally speaking I didn't find problem with PDAVIET Atom life ROM's either. Now they are with TF2D it makes things much more prettier.
Did you find any problem with TF2D? I guess they are less buggy now.
Let the developers know if you are facing any specific problem they will surely love to remover the hiccups.
Regards
Saksham Katyal
I am experiencing machine dead after suspend.
Random crash (screen freezing)
can't accept as a phone.
Oh thats unacceptable at any cost
Did you get your device checked from the vendor. I am afraid if everything is right with it. Try to change the ROM & I am sure you will see the difference[if its not about hardware]
Check my signature, this is one of the best ROM with stable TF2D. Just give it a try & let us know. Good luck.
@mcdull
try removing the sd card and then rebooting. It might work.
Also which ROM are you using?
@mcdull
try removing the sd card and then rebooting. It might work.
Also which ROM are you using?
I uses medkit latest rom with M2D package.
Will try the latest T2M rom
mcdull said:
could anyone please introduce the most stable rom for Atom Life with M2D?
or I should install M2D seperately?
Mine is now having a big problem, once it suspended, it never wake. And I have no way to know that it is dead, coz the light is still flashing.
That's really bad, I missed a lot of calls.
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please do a search before posting or requesting,. thats the rule,.
If you have problem with medkid's ROM, please post in the appropriate thread,.
Everything that should be done has already been stated.
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Hello, I'm kinda new to the forum, although I've been reading a lot, as well as downloading and flashing a few roms onto my phone.
I'm writing this thread with a pretty basic but complicated question (sorry for the oxymoron). Let me begin by saying, I'm what you'd call a heavy electronics user. That means I get something and then I use the stuffing out of it, testing to see it's limits. That also means I spend a lot of time trying new software to see what my devices can do.
The Athena has been one hell of a cool device from day one, and the day I actually figured out how to install new ROMs onto it, was the day it really opened up for me. My problem now is, I need a rom which supports such behavior. I'm finding that the roms I've tried so far, all have a problem of their own. Some sort of bug or glitch which kinda dampens the experience.
In AP4, it was good, but I noticed some incompatibilities with programs I used on the original rom. I then tried AP5 beta. This rom is MUCH quicker, however it's very proned to freezing during video playback using coreplayer and now my mediaplayer won't play anything, it just likes to freeze and force a hard reset.
I am about to try Michy's 6.1 SPL3.5. I'm curious to know whether this one is more stable than the 1.2 version or not. Compatibility is a big issue with me. As I said before, I use a lot of different apps and games on my phone, I find it fun to experiment a lot and push the phone for a (look what it can do) feeling of pride.
I suppose one of the problems I'm facing is that my expectations of smoothness are a bit high (I had two iphones before this) so I tend to notice lag and choppiness as well as incompatibility. I'm not saying I'd like to get an iphone again, because frankly, I'm tired of that trendy piece of junk. I like the community here on XDA and the amount of options available for this phone thanks to all the people on these forums.
I would really appreciate some feedback from the other users (and even developers if they'd care to share) as to which ROM would be best suited to a user the likes of which I've just described to you.
Many many thanks in return, and also, happy new year to all of you.
Caid.
Welcome
Hello and welcome to the forum
The first thing I will say to you about cooked roms is they are in a constant state of trial. I doubt there is a cooked rom out there that doesn't have a bug or two, but when you put them beside a stock rom then you start to see how advanced they are. we tend to take a stock rom as perfect but they are far from it. I tend to think of roms like a piece of art, they are never finished, they just get to a point that is just about right. I never fails to amaze me the time and trouble the cooks of our forums go to, to make these roms for others to use. never be shy to use the donate button, just think what you would need to pay to get this servce in a retail world and always be ready to give constructive feedback.
Michy has turned out some superb work and I for one keep going back to his R4.1 rom as it seems to have the most stable features. having said that there is little to choose between any of them in terms of reliability. He has not long ago brought out a clean rom HERE that may suit you to try out software on.
In the end my own advice would be keep trying different roms and you will soon find a favourite cook and rom to use. SPL 3.5 just means you get more space to put things on a rom, I cant say that either 3.5 or 1.2 is more stable than the other.
Good luck
Regards
Jay
responderman said:
Hello and welcome to the forum
The first thing I will say to you about cooked roms is they are in a constant state of trial. I doubt there is a cooked rom out there that doesn't have a bug or two, but when you put them beside a stock rom then you start to see how advanced they are. we tend to take a stock rom as perfect but they are far from it. I tend to think of roms like a piece of art, they are never finished, they just get to a point that is just about right. I never fails to amaze me the time and trouble the cooks of our forums go to, to make these roms for others to use. never be shy to use the donate button, just think what you would need to pay to get this servce in a retail world and always be ready to give constructive feedback.
Michy has turned out some superb work and I for one keep going back to his R4.1 rom as it seems to have the most stable features. having said that there is little to choose between any of them in terms of reliability. He has not long ago brought out a clean rom HERE that may suit you to try out software on.
In the end my own advice would be keep trying different roms and you will soon find a favourite cook and rom to use. SPL 3.5 just means you get more space to put things on a rom, I cant say that either 3.5 or 1.2 is more stable than the other.
Good luck
Regards
Jay
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hehe thanks. I think that my clean is good for your need: it has not any add-in that can disturb other software. No additionals dlls too (only WMP HTC's codecs). This bring to his users a fast bootup time, and a fast response. (+ a lot of free ram!)
Michy's rom
Of all the roms I've tried so far (5 cooked roms to date) Michy's was the most stable, however, my gprs internet doesn't work with that rom. It's the same situation with the official English rom, whereas the official Chinese rom worked for gprs. I'm in China, and I have ChinaUnicom, so for some reason, with certain roms, I'm unable to use the gprs internet.
If I could get around this problem, I'd be going through all of Michy's roms, looking for the most suitable one for me. I just signed up with a very high priced mobile internet monthly package, so I must take advantage of it.
I guess I could always ask, is there any fix for this problem other than completely changing the rom? AP roms allow me to use the gprs, but michy's and official English ones do not.
Caid.
BTW, All the roms on here really are like art, and I absolutely love my phone if only for all the work that the developers on here are doing. You guys rock!
Hello again
GPRS and such like are ALWAYS FINE with all of Michy's roms. Out of interest, you are using the Network wizard app to set up your country and provider in connections settings??? 3g and high speed data are no problem either if your country supplies them
Regards
Jay
response to all gprs works.
The situation is as follows. When I have AP anything on here (3-5beta) the gprs automatically detects as soon as the rom is finished setting up and the sim card is installed, it just brings up a notification saying it's there.
For Michy's 6.1 rom, all the fields were empty as far as provider and settings are concerned. Granted, my phone seems to think I'm with another company (as the name of the ISP on my cellphone is the wrong one) but I can still get on the network.
I've set the settings on Michy's ROM to no avail, I just can't get on.
Caid.
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Did it work before with official roms ? Have you tried their GPRS network with another device ?
I'm asking this because from what I remember China Unicom historically had a CDMA network and is late compared to China Mobile on the GPRS/EDGE deployment. So areyou sure that GPRS by Unicom is available in your area ?
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hello again
Ok, I wrote my last reply at 4 in the morning my time, so perhaps it was a bit confusing.
I have a China Unicom account, NOT a China Mobile one. When I bought the phone, it was all in Chinese. I paid the seller to put an English rom on it (I didn't know how at the time). When the OS was Chinese, it brought up a notification as soon as I put in my sim card, that said, setting up gprs network. Continue? I clicked yes, and there it was, gprs network (edge in fact).
The phone called it ChinaMobile, although I don't imagine it's possible for a Unicom user to use China Mobile's gprs. The card is not CDMA, and therefore I would be unable to use CDMA network regardless (even the phone can't use CDMA.)
After installing the English ROM at the store, the guy who did it told me I wouldn't be able to use cellphone internet. Of course, he told me in Chinese, and I don't understand enough Chinese to really know why.
After I installed AP4 on it, it suddenly found the network again, same with AP network 5 beta. However, when I installed Michy's clean 6.1 (beautifully stable ROM btw) I wasn't able to get on again. No auto detect, and even after putting in the information from China Unicom, it still wouldn't connect.
There, in a very large nutshell, is my problem.
Caid.
OK I understand your problem now, I just checked my michy rom and youre right, it only has china one on it. the best thing you can do is contact Pawel062 or irus and ask them for THEIR network cab to install, as they know AP 4.0 inside out. pawel062 made AP 4.0 so if anyone has it then he does.
The other answer is load a rom that sets up your phone company and make a note of all the settings in the settings/connections/connections/manage existing connections, the only thing it will not say is the password . Then load them into michy's rom manually. OR ge onto your phone company(google it?) and get them to tell you them, but it has to be down to the last full stop!!!
Hope this helps
Regards
Jay
EDIT: Ok after looking on google, it seems there are so few settings it is more hastle to get a cab than just put them in yourself. experimnt a bit, just get GPRS working before you set up the ROM. then if you need to hard reset, no problems.
Thanks for the help.
I will try to contact the people you mentioned for a cab file.
I just want to ask, where should I try to contact them, and what exactly should I ask for? I'm worried that I'll waste the little time that they may help me by putting their help to work in the wrong method, or for the wrong thing.
I am REALLY excited to use Michy's ROM, because the AP5 beta rom that I am using freezes about 5 times a day (more if I try to do too much).
Thanks again for the help so far, and any help you offer in the future.
Caid.
Thanks.
Jay, thank you for your help. After reading what you wrote, it broke down a mental barrier I had about being able to connect. After being told that I could not connect by the people who installed my first ROM, I guess I complicated things more than I should have and wasn't able to see what to do.
Your suggestions have led me to be able to connect to the network using Michy's ROM. It has also given me more questions I will need to find answers to on my own, mainly, why does the network require settings from the opposing company. I am only able to access the net if I use the settings (including the address "cmnet") from the competition. I am now wondering if my phone is accessing their internet, and if so, how much money this will end up costing me if things aren't in sync.
I didn't think it would be possible to get on the net through the other company, but now I am wondering if that is so. I guess I have some work to do.
Anyway, regardless, you've helped me answer some major questions, and you've also helped me open my phone to more roms. My main thing here is stability and use, and now I can have both of those.
Again (third time?) Thank you greatly, and thank you Michy for an amazingly solid rom.
Caid.
Caid444 said:
Jay, thank you for your help. After reading what you wrote, it broke down a mental barrier I had about being able to connect. After being told that I could not connect by the people who installed my first ROM, I guess I complicated things more than I should have and wasn't able to see what to do.
Your suggestions have led me to be able to connect to the network using Michy's ROM. It has also given me more questions I will need to find answers to on my own, mainly, why does the network require settings from the opposing company. I am only able to access the net if I use the settings (including the address "cmnet") from the competition. I am now wondering if my phone is accessing their Internet, and if so, how much money this will end up costing me if things aren't in sync.
I didn't think it would be possible to get on the net through the other company, but now I am wondering if that is so. I guess I have some work to do.
Anyway, regardless, you've helped me answer some major questions, and you've also helped me open my phone to more roms. My main thing here is stability and use, and now I can have both of those.
Again (third time?) Thank you greatly, and thank you Michy for an amazingly solid rom.
Caid.
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Hi caid
You are very welcome, i've been there, got the t-shirt, read the book. so I know how frustrating it can be to struggle on something, but its great to get there. Could it be the that the two companies share Internet?? I cant see how they could charge you if it was another company, and I don't see how you could connect to it if it was not from your own phone company. As for Michy roms, I've tried them all and for a straight forward rom with everything working I would recommend 4.1 a Vista type. An XP type one is 1.88, and his latest 6.1 is very flash!
Have fun
Jay
Thanks for the advice.
I've been using Michy's 6.1 clean for about a week. I have noticed it isn't very compatible with the htc task manager, and tends to do some weird glitch where the task manager becomes unresponsive and instead reroutes me to the time and date. I think I'll uninstall that app and try another. Any suggestions on what I should use to manage running programs?
Aside from that, I'm interested in finding a rom that makes the phone look quite different. I think what I'm most interested in is seeing my phone surprise me. I love Michy's ROM so far, it's fast and very efficient, but I still want to see some flashiness on this 628mhz beast I call a phone. Any suggestions would be great.
Again, thanks for all the support so far from all of you (namely Jay and Michy). If it weren't for you, this phone would be a whole lot more vanilla.
Caid.
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To be more specific about what I'm trying to do, I really want to make my friend's iphone look functionless and linear compared to my phone I feel that because this phone is so hacked, there must be a ROM out there that really changes it's looks from a wm6 device to a more custom interface.
You can use spb shell or maybe other programs that I'm not aware of. That's the beauty of winmo, you can install your programs of choice !
Caid444 said:
I've been using Michy's 6.1 clean for about a week. I have noticed it isn't very compatible with the htc task manager, and tends to do some weird glitch where the task manager becomes unresponsive and instead reroutes me to the time and date. I think I'll uninstall that app and try another. Any suggestions on what I should use to manage running programs?
Aside from that, I'm interested in finding a rom that makes the phone look quite different. I think what I'm most interested in is seeing my phone surprise me. I love Michy's ROM so far, it's fast and very efficient, but I still want to see some flashiness on this 628mhz beast I call a phone. Any suggestions would be great.
Again, thanks for all the support so far from all of you (namely Jay and Michy). If it weren't for you, this phone would be a whole lot more vanilla.
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To be more specific about what I'm trying to do, I really want to make my friend's iphone look functionless and linear compared to my phone I feel that because this phone is so hacked, there must be a ROM out there that really changes it's looks from a wm6 device to a more custom interface.
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Thanks for the big up, but its all about helping one another.
Have you tried THIS one that goes with mobile shell, its very good and its freeware. Dont forget to donate if you like it though. You can even make it look like an I-phone if thats your thing. It has clocks, icons, skins wallpapers, and all touchflo. LOL
Have fun
Jay
I changed my hd2 rom to the one mentioned in the title. But it seems that im the only one having issues with it. I contacted grzegorz about these as well, but he told me the same thing. So... im hoping that maybe someone will share their ideas in fixing these.
- When i go to "landscape" view, all menus except "today" are "cut in half", so i cant see whole screen.
- When i turn on sounds on my device, vibrations turn on too! which i don't want too! Plus when i get the message vibration is so long that it only annoys me and i end up turning off sounds at all! so the vibbie dissapears too.
is there a registry entry to turn off vibrations at all? and where?
- Dusk was ment to be much faster than other official roms, whats strange, except more ram and lack of "not enough memory" notice, its slow as hell.
I realized that my SD card was broken so i exchanged it to other one. so yea.. its faster.. but still not even as fast as my first 1.66 rom i got with the mobile.
If i would know i would never change my rom...
- Whats most important, after changing to DUSK ULTIMATE my HD2 seems to NEVER go into HSDPA mode, which makes my internet UBER slow! its always in Edge or 3G which obviously sucks hard!
If any of you have any, just any ideas! please let me know! i really like the looks of the rom but... it seems its not working for me!
and yes, i already hard reseted my device several times. its no use.