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Hello everybody
I have been reading on this forum for some time now, and I understand the update process, including unlocking, its all great.
However, Im at a loss - I have no idea what I have to gain from upgrading my ROM.
I currently have an untouched T-Mobile Vario II with bootloader 1.04, hardware vesion (?) 634.
My friend has just recieved his Vario II, v646.
Everyones talking about using ROMs from other providers, but I've yet to read anything substantial about whats to be gained from switching or upgrading ROMs.
What CAN actually be changed by changing ROMs? For example, T-Mobile have been kind enough to bundle my device with a free registered version of 'Spb GPRS Monitor' - it monitors GPRS/3G and battery power, plus providing a useful bar on the today screen. it's very useful and I wouldn't want to lose it should I decide to gamble on a ROM update that provides nothing nearly as useful.
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
I have also decided that I would like to try other graphic themes. Before I have a go at making my own I thought it might be nice to try some existing ones...
There are lots of hardware/radio versions published, but unless I've missed it theres very little talk about what the ROMs provide.
Cheers very much for all your help thus far, and in advance for anything else you might be able to help me with!
lets make this a simple one.. if you are happy with the device the way it is then there is nothing to change... kinda like the old saying, "If it aint broke then dont fix it"
If there are things you are looking to change then maybe post your problems here and we can tell you if you would benefit from changing roms!
I have the universal and purchased the hermes for size and HSDPA / UMTS improvements.
The universal was upgraded and hacked many times.
However, I cant see an upgrade rom hack that is available at all here for the hermes yet.
Can anybody confirm a WWE 3.x Rom upgrade being available? Mine is Imate, but I am not particularly loyal in any way, but would like more reliable Push Email, and the speed improvements that occur with 3.x
To the moderator, you cant really say if it aint broke dont fix it, cause quite often, you dont know if it is broken until you start to fix something, and you dont know if something is faster, better, more efficient, more effective, or provides improvements in functionality until a question is asked.
Its a bit like me taking my car to a mechanic, they always ask if everything is fine, it always is, but they always call me up and tell me that this isnt working, this needs fixing, and this is about to broke... You can triple the cost if you would like us to fix it.
You didnt know until somebody points out the improvements and benefits.
So, I would like the initial question answered as well, if somebody is prepared to give an explanation and some guidance.
Here's some upgrading facts for you:
There is no AKU 3.x ROM available for the Hermes yet.
Due to a new encryption strategy, ROMS take 25 minutes to flash. Any interruptions during this time may brick your device.
Also due to the above encryption strategy, we are not yet able to cook our own custom ROMS for the Hermes.
Boot Loader v1.04 which shipped with most of the early ROMs contains a bug which allows easy bypassing of CID lock. However subsequent bootloaders fix this problem and will CID lock you to your original vendor. The only crossgrade solution is to first downgrade to a BL1.04 version of your vendor's ROM then exploit the bug to load another. Device owners without a 1.04BL version of their ROM have consequently been unable to crossgrade/unlock their Hermes.
There is a bootleg solution that will flash BL1.04 on any Hermes while leaving the rest of the ROM untouched. However, it isn't available here. In fact the original owner of it's copyrighted code actively pursues anybody who posts this solution on the internet. Consequently, it's worldwide availability is constantly changing
There is a CID/SIM unlock solution by pof that is posted here which works with the 1.04 Bootloader only
The more current ROMS for the DoPod, TyTN and 8525 contain measured performance improvements
The most current radio rom (v1.20) improves battery performance
Most of the newer roms fix a media player audio stutter bug
Getting a combination of the most current radio ROM and the most current device ROM involves 40-60 minutes of flashing time and the use of the bootleg BL1.04 solution described above.
HTH!
Thanks sleuth255 for taking the time to answer comprehensively.
I am really only interested in upgrading to 3.x and will wait and see how things transpire. There was major benefits to the universal upgrade to 3.x however, the hermes doesnt appear to suffer the speed issues of the universal and I am so far very happy with the device.
jubbbird said:
Hello everybody
I have identified several short comings of my devide, not the least of which is the fact that it intermittantly skips every 30+ seconds when playing music through my stereo bluetooth earphones. I imagine that some kind of update will be required to fix this, as it seems to be a problem for only certain version of the device - the Vario II being the obvious.
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I tested all the WWE ROM here (not the one with 1.09 bootloader, because since today is a one way only road, no way to flash back the original ROM)
About music skip: not sure if upgrade will solve it (since today) but there is a good patch here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
Other well known problems (lost storage card in windows media player, overnight and in-call freeze, poor efficiency (short battery life in UMTS coverage, slow performances if compared to processor speed promise, ...) are still unsolved
I will suggest: play if you want, but having in mind that HERMES ROM flashing today is just for play, have a look, testing, not for really solving anything
Supercid ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282073 ) your device to play with ROMs, now, because you have the 1.04 bootloader version. Once SUPERCIDed you can play with all ROM
Well thats my primary issue at the moment and it sounds a lot like your fix may work for me.
I am using an original ROM im guessing, with bootloader 1.04 so all the doors are open for me. I'm in nor rush, strictly speaking, because I love this device and it generally works wonders for me. I listen to music for long periods of time once in a while (long car journeys alone with my SE ds970 - plugs the ears well providing awsome noise removal from external sources, can't even hear the engine on my crappy Vauxhall Corsa with those in...) but it is during those periods that I suffer with the skipping. fixing it will be wonderful.
I have a question about your fix though, but I worry that having read the first few pages of your other thread, and the last few, I may have missed the answer so I apologise if I'm asking questions you have already answered - but I remember reading the original thread a while ago from the guy who discovered the Task Manager app that fixed the issue and he mentioned that because the software seems to prevent any CPU speed scaling (not sure if thats actually what its doing) he observed that CPU battery consumption while running that specific app + audio decreased noticably. Is this still an issue with your patch? I plan to purchase a working in-car power adapter so it won't really be a problem, but im curious
I'm gonna take my time with regards to ROM upgrades because as has been mentioned above - I have only a few issues which after reading this thread now seem to be standing issues which won't be fixed whatever I decide to do right now. Ultimately, I have the stuff I detailed above adn thus far no steadfast information about which ROMs are good for what. I don't even know anything about this 3.x business noted above...
What I'd like to know now, before I try your fix, is - if i were to install a TyTn ROM (which right now Im assuming is an original HTC TyTn ROM as oposed to a yet-to-be-released T-Mobile ROM...?) will that effectively brand it back to HTC, wipe the onboard flash, give me the original TyTn green theme, remove all the software and settings T-Mobile gave me (they were kind enough to give me a licensed copy of Spb GPRS Monitor which is quite an advantage for me - my friend has a more recent T-Mobile Vario II and they seem to have retracted the offer ... ) and leave me at square one with any fixes/improvements/new-issues that ROM provides?
I also seem to remember reading that because as yet T-Mobile have not released an original ROM, changing now is a one way trip.
I think what I need is for someone to set me in the right direction from the perspective of a early Vario II user. I really enjoy my gadgets, and the best thing about them is "fixing things that aint broke" I love upgrading and trying to squeeze it for all its worth. Better yet, updating my device and gloating to those who have no idea what that means! It's all good...
Anyway, cheers very much for your help thus far - greatly appreciated.
please guide me which radio the best from the following aspects
good reception and strong signals
battery life
thanks in advance
uhm... no way of really knowing, probably the newest one because it's... you know... new.
before you ask, it's 1.38.00.10
I already ask in different thread, if exist some change log, but no, doesnt exist. so only way is to watch threads, and sometime people said - "..I have bad reception with version xxx...". it is not very comfortable, but there is one way, test one version lower, as is the newest one, and wait perhaps one week, if someone post information about problem/advantage of newest version. for me - I updating always all new rom/radio/BL
latest
I have the latest Trinity rom, works like a charm.....
Really excellent....1.38.00.11.
For sure with bandswitch and push mail!
radio 1.38.00.11
hellejoep said:
I have the latest Trinity rom, works like a charm.....
Really excellent....1.38.00.11.
For sure with bandswitch and push mail!
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this radio perfect for me on my mda vario ii , better signal strength and even displays the correct H 3G SIGNS
I have been experiencing problems with hand-overs whilst in the 3G mode.
This started about 4 weeks ago and affects all Radio ROM's on WM5 and WM6.
What happens is that when moving from one cell area to the next, the signal is lost and the phone disconnects. One has to then force a connection again. This does not happen if the phone is set in the GSM mode.
The problem is network related and well known to Leaf Wireless.
They informed me that a WM5 upgrade would be posted at the end of this week which included the fixed Radio ROM.
They will however not be including this Radio in their WM6 upgrade to be issued at a later stage. ( To protect the sales of the comming Kaiser?)
Is this fair treatment to hand out to their loyal customers?
So your phones that were purchased from January on, will not benefit from the ugraded OEM's and fixes on the WM6 release.
I was planning on upgrading to a Kaiser, but after waiting patiently for a better ROM for sooooo long, and now this news - no chance!!
I expected better for a device costing +/- R8000 ($1,100)
As far as I know, radio firmware do not depend on the OS. You would normaly be able to extract the radio version from the WM5 rom and flash it on your WM6 device.
If they really change the way the OS interact with the radio, it is really screwed; but I am very doubtfull about it
basilrsa, are you currently on WM5 or a cooked WM6 (or maybe the official Asia one)?
I have never really experienced a disconnect problem when switching cells, but more of a "data hanging" issue, ie. it will show it is still connected, but no data is flowing. This has been on WM5 (Pre-AKU3 radio and AKU3 radio). I am currently on 1.48, and it seems much better. I see you are on Vodacom ... they have been having problems with that for a long time now
fun_key said:
As far as I know, radio firmware do not depend on the OS. You would normaly be able to extract the radio version from the WM5 rom and flash it on your WM6 device.
If they really change the way the OS interact with the radio, it is really screwed; but I am very doubtfull about it
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Thanks for your view, it is appreciated.
Yes, I will be able to extract the Radio from the WM5 release and flash it to my device.
The problem is that many users in SA want their warranty intact. By altering the standard ROM's they void their cover.
The point is how can they provide the new Radio with WM5 and not WM6 which they intend to release, but with a buggy Radio!
Regards
LandyMan said:
basilrsa, are you currently on WM5 or a cooked WM6 (or maybe the official Asia one)?
I have never really experienced a disconnect problem when switching cells, but more of a "data hanging" issue, ie. it will show it is still connected, but no data is flowing. This has been on WM5 (Pre-AKU3 radio and AKU3 radio). I am currently on 1.48, and it seems much better. I see you are on Vodacom ... they have been having problems with that for a long time now
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Thanks,
See my signature for my current setup (WM6 - Sleuth and Radio1.48)
The problem does exist as a new Radio attached to WM5 will be released at the end of this week.
The post above will explain why I am pi**ed off.
Regards
please post it if you manage to extract it !!!
I am happy user of AP3.0. The only element of my Advantage that could do with improvement is the Bluetooth - which I think Pawel addressed in AP4.0. However, that particular route to upgrade is awaiting Pawel's release by the fiends in the Polaris forum that have been holding him hostage for such a long time.
Search as I have, I cannot find any other ROM that has tried to port the Widcomm stack into the Advantage. Can anyone let me know if they are looking in to this?
Thanks
Robert
I was tired of the bluetooth in HTC stock WM6 rom. I didn't work with my LG HBM-700 at all because bluetooth on my X7500 turned itself off every now and then. I also had lot of problems with a Jabra handsfree.
On Michy 1.88 it is a lot better, but I have experienced a few problems there too. Bluetooth turned itself off a few times the first day after I installed this rom, but that could be me. But one night after a weeks usage bluetooth turned itself off.
I wonder how irus 0mb rom works. I noticed it is using another bluetooth stack and seems to be more battery friendly for bluetooth devices. Any experience on this?
Bluetooth Reliability
I'm in the same boat. I'm using a Sony HBH-DS220 Headset and the only ROMs that use to work well with it are AP4.0 and AP5 Beta. In the last months alone I've gone through no less than 6 - 7 different ROMS from IRUS Vanilla to Michy 5.1 with the same or similar results. I'm hoping that Michy will have a look at this change the stack in his next ROM.
tazeemn said:
I'm in the same boat. I'm using a Sony HBH-DS220 Headset and the only ROMs that use to work well with it are AP4.0 and AP5 Beta. In the last months alone I've gone through no less than 6 - 7 different ROMS from IRUS Vanilla to Michy 5.1 with the same or similar results. I'm hoping that Michy will have a look at this change the stack in his next ROM.
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What are the problems you are having? I am using a Sony DRC-BT15 - similar to your DS220s as well as a HBM-700 Styli with no trouble on Michy 4.1 (and 4.0).
Mrsums,
are you absolutely SURE that PK4 have Widcomm stack?
If i remember correctly, it also have the usual MS stack. Too lazy to reflash though to confirm.
Hi all,
in all the ROM-threads we talk about the different radio-versions. As call quality has been THE major issue on our device I decided to make up a new thread only for radio. Hope it is ok..
I`m using Novembre5 german rom #1 with radio 5005.1600.05. The complaints about" I can´t hear you..." seem to increase in comparison to the official toshiba Swiss ROM I used before. I`m using german vodafone network, dk if its important.
Maybe we can compare our experiences with the different radios to help our great cooks to implement the"perfekt" radio for our TG01..
THX to all
DubRas
I guess it will depend were you are. I have tried most of the roms that had been posted here. For the purpose of testing the call quality I spent about two hours trying the roms. The original problem I had with this is the person the other end sometimes can not here me properly. A problem I did not have since I upgraded to the official toshiba rom 6.5.0. When I had november's 6.5.5 rom running to my surprise i had a worst call quality, the qualityon both sides was bad. So I tested the different roms and as a result the radio from the official toshiba upgrade is the best one for me. I am in the UK so it might be a different case with other people on other country.
And just a note the radio version that everyone is using now is originaly release for china so it might not be design for other countrys network. I guess!
Also I have posted this in a couple of threads and aragon said that he can do a tool to easily change the radio on roms. I hope it materials. so thubs up from me.
Just to add. Im using aragon's TG01 Debranded Orange UK - 6.5.0 ROM v0.010 which works perfect for me at the moment. loads of space for program and ram after installing all my apps especially for call quality issue.
Big up.. to aragon
so maybe we, the "european" users, should vote for an 6.5.5-ROM with the official UK-Radio. Or, if aragon gets an "easy-radio-update-tool" to work, we might be able to do it ourselves...
It seems that FFBOY radio layer is better, that what I can see, but it's not easy, because all ROM works well, with some diffenreces.... No need of SRSWOW with ffboy's ROM.
DubRas said:
so maybe we, the "european" users, should vote for an 6.5.5-ROM with the official UK-Radio. Or, if aragon gets an "easy-radio-update-tool" to work, we might be able to do it ourselves...
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I'm from Romania this means from Europe here only work the latest Hong Kong radio driver 5005.1600.05 the other one from official UK keep getting problems in call quality.
Do i get that right: there seems to be no easy answer to the question: which is the best radio? Cant believe it, but my technical knowledge is maybe much too low for that. The "Easy-radio-update-tool" might be a possibility for every single user to find the radio that works best for him and in his country/network. So hopefully a tool like that will appear sometime in the future.
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
useyourfist said:
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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Yes i can confirm that too.
useyourfist said:
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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What country of you used
I use WM 6.1, but only chinese version... i don't understand nothing, but....... radio works perfectly in my country. it's the first time, when my phone works good, when i am talking with somebody... you can find this rom in the ffboys rom link (somewhere in last posts there is a link for 6.1)I AM VERY SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
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What country of you used
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i use uk/english rom
Strange. I've been using ffboy's Sense Rom with 5005.1600.05 radio and my call quality is worse. Loads of people here are saying it was better for them. Mind you, it was the same story with the original 6.5 update. Loss of people had problems, but others swore blind that it was perfect for them, with some even suggesting that we must have had a bad batch with a unique hardware fault. I think it's fair to say I ruled that out. I've had 8, some of them refurbs, but the last two were brand new replacements. They were all the same for me. A couple of people suggested it was more to do with varying quality in beteen gsm or 3g areas of network coverage.
One thing I noticed that helped sometimes was to change the volume slider up or down and for some strange reason, the other caller would say that it was better, but then it would get bad again after a few minutes. I once tried dialing my own number and leaving a message on my own voicemail to see what was happening and I discovered that the sound started breaking up particularly at the point when the screen turns off shortly after the start of the call. Anyone else noticed that?
Confused.
Like some others, I found the latest UK Toshiba update to be the best for me so far, although not prefect.
Has anyone had problems with 5005.1700.05?
i had big problems with the 1700 radio. So i had to go back on a rom with a 1600 radio.
I tried 1600 radio version it is not that good. My friend can hear heavy echoing and the time for phone to response is too slow(in my case 20 secs later). WM6.1 has much better radio quality.
I used Japanese version of tg01, when flashed Uk rom radio dont changed, how to change radio for this version ? plz help me, this radio version is really suck (sorry my bad english)
Drbeckman said:
i had big problems with the 1700 radio. So i had to go back on a rom with a 1600 radio.
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hi,
same experince for me.
switch radio
Is it posible to switch radios without swithing rom's?
Hi Everybody,
I would like to know ,What is the meaning of radio version number? 1500,1600,1700 it mean frequency?(5005.1500.05,5005.1600.05,5005.1700.05)
@MeePooh said:
Hi Everybody,
I would like to know ,What is the meaning of radio version number? 1500,1600,1700 it mean frequency?(5005.1500.05,5005.1600.05,5005.1700.05)
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No frequency related, those(&many others) are radio software versions (generally fitted to certain ROM versions, depending on country?!), so far nobody knows precisely differences between them...