I have been experiencing problems with hand-overs whilst in the 3G mode.
This started about 4 weeks ago and affects all Radio ROM's on WM5 and WM6.
What happens is that when moving from one cell area to the next, the signal is lost and the phone disconnects. One has to then force a connection again. This does not happen if the phone is set in the GSM mode.
The problem is network related and well known to Leaf Wireless.
They informed me that a WM5 upgrade would be posted at the end of this week which included the fixed Radio ROM.
They will however not be including this Radio in their WM6 upgrade to be issued at a later stage. ( To protect the sales of the comming Kaiser?)
Is this fair treatment to hand out to their loyal customers?
So your phones that were purchased from January on, will not benefit from the ugraded OEM's and fixes on the WM6 release.
I was planning on upgrading to a Kaiser, but after waiting patiently for a better ROM for sooooo long, and now this news - no chance!!
I expected better for a device costing +/- R8000 ($1,100)
As far as I know, radio firmware do not depend on the OS. You would normaly be able to extract the radio version from the WM5 rom and flash it on your WM6 device.
If they really change the way the OS interact with the radio, it is really screwed; but I am very doubtfull about it
basilrsa, are you currently on WM5 or a cooked WM6 (or maybe the official Asia one)?
I have never really experienced a disconnect problem when switching cells, but more of a "data hanging" issue, ie. it will show it is still connected, but no data is flowing. This has been on WM5 (Pre-AKU3 radio and AKU3 radio). I am currently on 1.48, and it seems much better. I see you are on Vodacom ... they have been having problems with that for a long time now
fun_key said:
As far as I know, radio firmware do not depend on the OS. You would normaly be able to extract the radio version from the WM5 rom and flash it on your WM6 device.
If they really change the way the OS interact with the radio, it is really screwed; but I am very doubtfull about it
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Thanks for your view, it is appreciated.
Yes, I will be able to extract the Radio from the WM5 release and flash it to my device.
The problem is that many users in SA want their warranty intact. By altering the standard ROM's they void their cover.
The point is how can they provide the new Radio with WM5 and not WM6 which they intend to release, but with a buggy Radio!
Regards
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basilrsa, are you currently on WM5 or a cooked WM6 (or maybe the official Asia one)?
I have never really experienced a disconnect problem when switching cells, but more of a "data hanging" issue, ie. it will show it is still connected, but no data is flowing. This has been on WM5 (Pre-AKU3 radio and AKU3 radio). I am currently on 1.48, and it seems much better. I see you are on Vodacom ... they have been having problems with that for a long time now
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Thanks,
See my signature for my current setup (WM6 - Sleuth and Radio1.48)
The problem does exist as a new Radio attached to WM5 will be released at the end of this week.
The post above will explain why I am pi**ed off.
Regards
please post it if you manage to extract it !!!
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I am using RomVer:1.60.00WWE 12/3/03 RadioVer: 1.08.00 ExtRomVer:1.60.44. Could anyone give me a suggestion on what upgrade I can place on my XDAII? I run copilot live on it and works well but battery life is crap.
Can I install the XDA Developers rom or will it not work with the Australian XDAII version???
:roll: THANKS
O2 Asia has a 1.66 ROM, which seems to be on all of the devices that have been bought recently. I had it put on mine when I had it repaired last week. I havent noticed any major differences between 1.60 and 1.66 and when I called O2, they said the only differences were that some extra carriers details were added to the AutoConfig tool. I think there were a couple of minor changes too, but nothing great.
I haven't tried any of the Xda Dev's ROM's, but there is no reason why they wouldn't work. You will be voiding your warranty by aplying them though.
HTH's
Dave
THANKS
WIth the setup I have at the moment I find that there are a few bugs like system hanging a lot.
is there a place where I can download ready made roms for the XDAII?
I have just installed Omega1 Batterypack2003 and I am having issues with it. the program keeps hanging and I have to soft reset the device for it to start again. Is anyone familiar travroute and a bluetooth gps. And tweaks or problems they are having.
I can not get updates for the maps in australia as the site takes me to the overseas updates
Any help would be great.
G
Title says it all. I had tried the HTC South African ROM, and liked it, but I couldnt get the keyboard to correspond with the 8525 symbols. Searched all day and decided that it wasn't worth the minimal speed increase. Instead of going back to the ROM I had, the 1.34...ROM, I decided to go with this one since it has AKU 2.6. I am so glad I did!
I live in Queens, and 3G has NEVER worked in my house. Only certain times throughout my day I would see the U symbol on my phone. And it was in south Middle Village, not near my house. Since I upgraded/downgraded the ROM, not only do I have U in my house, but after 8 dslreports.com tests, I averaged over 800 kbps and peaked at 972Kbps! Perhaps its a coincidence that U is up and running here today, but I seriously doubt it! I also upgraded the radio to 1.20 and noticed a slightly less wait time for 'locating" in PIE. The OS seems faster as well, but not much faster, than the newer Cingular ROM. To any Cingular 8525 owners out there this ROM is definitely worth a look!
There must be a reason that they decided 3 WEEKS LATER to go back to AKU 2.3. Is there a bug in this ROM that I haven't discovered yet?
The radio upgrade is what made UMTS more accessible. The OS portion of the ROM didn't have any effect on your wireless. AKU 2.6 is reported to have problems, but I never personally tried it or tried to track them after I read MS Voice Command wouldn't work with it. There was a lot of discussion about AKU 2.6 in the Wizard forum, you might find some info there.
Did you install the newer radio code independently, or did it come with the South Africa ROM?
I noticed the increase in UMTS accessibility after upgrading the ROM. I upgraded the radio only to minimize the "locating" delay in PIE, activesync, etc. It mihgt be a coincidence, who knows.
Cyberon works fine w/this ROM. I never really cared fpr VC, it uses too much RAM and is a lot slower than cyberon IMO
The reason for the thread was to hopefully find out what the problems are that have been reported. Seemse strange that Cingular made a new ROM a few weeks after and went back to 2.3
I don't know why they went back to aku 2.3, but for the problem you where having with the keyboard, you could have solved it by installing a cab in the cingular's extrom (don't remember now exactly wich one).
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I don't know why they went back to aku 2.3, but for the problem you where having with the keyboard, you could have solved it by installing a cab in the cingular's extrom (don't remember now exactly wich one).
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Yeah, I had searched, and searched, and found one of your posts that spoke about a cab with "keypad.." in the name, but I downloaded TWO Cingular ExtROMS and that file was not in either of them. When I first installed the 1.35 ROM, I replaced its extrom with the newest Cingular extROM, to no avail. I don't mind though, I like this ROM so far and it hasn't caused any issues for me. And its Cingular-issued, so all of the settings were there for me.
Hi
I have been running the AKU 3.3 ROM for about 2 weeks now with the 1.27 RadioRom.
Previously I was running the HTC 1.35 from South Africa.
Well, since I've suffered heaps more occasional annoyances than with 1.35.
Things like: backlight that stops working and you need to reset. Bluetooth turning off.
And the device is so much more sluggish. Everything feels slower.
In comparison, with the 1.35 I never experienced a crash, device was incredibly responsive and my battery consumption was much better.
The only noticeable difference with AKU 2 and AKU 3 is the Internet Sharing application (at least that's the only one I've been able to notice). Which means that I don't need special driver to use my iMate JasJam has a USB modem.
Anything else work just the same. So what was the point or advantage of AKU 3.3 over AKU 2.x ???
Thanks
Jean-Yves
I have been running the AKU 3.3 for about 10 days and after a 5-10 hangs up which follows by soft reset a day and a lots of other issues like slower response, hangs up when received a call I have put on the SA 1.35 ROM and this problems disappear....I was running the Cingular AKU 3.3 with radio 1.27...now I’m running SA 1.35 with Radio 1.27...the only problem I have noticed after downgrading is that after switching from Flight mode to Radio ON I’m unable to sent messages...I’m getting an error saying to check SMS center number etc...but after a few retries I’m able to send SMS again...I think it is related to the Radio ROM...the battery drain looks like the same on both ROMs…that’s my opinion on the AKU 3.3…so will wait for a more stable version to come out…
Regards,
Primoz
I have been using this 2.05ROM for two weeks without any major issues compared to SA 1.35 ROM.
Only differences I've noticed so far:
- When bluetooth hf is connected, the backlight of the phone
cycles every few minutes = it's off and then goes on for 2 mins (this time has been set from the backlight timer)
- Resco explorer is very very slow with this new rom
- Ugly blue color theme on the Comm manager
I have been running the swedish AKU 3.3 testrom since it came out and i have'nt noticed any of the problems you mention.. Resco explorer is even faster than ever.
Will be cool to try the Wm6 rom soon
I've been running the AKU ROMS (first Swedish then the Egnlish HTC with radio 1.34) and I only can say: perfect! Much more stabile, faster, less hangs (TomTom), no more call drops. I'll never go back!
@nilly: "Will be cool to try the Wm6 rom soon"
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Did I miss something here? I thought there would never be a WM6 for Hermes!?
i have a big problem , after i upgrade my radio rom to 1.34 my voice cant be heared ... its sounds like a robot voice. Then i have downgrade to 1.27 Radio Rom and South african rom ! But now my voice calls cant be heared when i speak
what can i do ?
pietrucci said:
I've been running the AKU ROMS (first Swedish then the Egnlish HTC with radio 1.34) and I only can say: perfect! Much more stabile, faster, less hangs (TomTom), no more call drops. I'll never go back!
Did I miss something here? I thought there would never be a WM6 for Hermes!?
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Look at the XDA-Live sticky in this forum
Sleuth also announced that a variety of US carriers were planning on officially bringing WM6 to existing devices.
arghness said:
Look at the XDA-Live sticky in this forum
Sleuth also announced that a variety of US carriers were planning on officially bringing WM6 to existing devices.
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The XDA-live thread isn't talking about WM6, is it? Can't distillate that...
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The XDA-live thread isn't talking about WM6, is it? Can't distillate that...
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yes it is talking about WM6....
Just upgraded my phone to WM6.1 and enjoying it, but I heard something about the ability to upgrade the radio rom on the phone.
I've heard that some radio roms can increase reception, but also decrease battery life and cause some calls and messages to miss.
I'm using T-Mobile USA on my Wizard. Have there been a better radio rom that doesn't cause these issues, or should I just stay with my current radio rom?
if you have no problem with your current radio i would stick with it. read lots of posts on radio upgrading. some people get great results and some have problems.
from what i have red 2,19 seems to be the most stable.
you can always test it for yourself. all the radios are availible in the ftp server including the original t mobille usa radio
Hey Duke what rom are you using?
Official Tmobile rom with WM5 and radio 2.25.11 never missed any calls for me, as soon as i went with TNT's 6.1 latest rom, i started missing calls and voicemails. Flashed to 2.71.11 radio - same, now i applied the radio cab fix from here(post #6) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317331&highlight=tmobile+Radio+ROM (per advise of mmeyer) and testing currently. If that doesnt work - will flash to 2.19 that seems to work for most US MDA Tmobile people. Just hate to go to older radio that has much worse reception than even 2.25
Hi all,
in all the ROM-threads we talk about the different radio-versions. As call quality has been THE major issue on our device I decided to make up a new thread only for radio. Hope it is ok..
I`m using Novembre5 german rom #1 with radio 5005.1600.05. The complaints about" I can´t hear you..." seem to increase in comparison to the official toshiba Swiss ROM I used before. I`m using german vodafone network, dk if its important.
Maybe we can compare our experiences with the different radios to help our great cooks to implement the"perfekt" radio for our TG01..
THX to all
DubRas
I guess it will depend were you are. I have tried most of the roms that had been posted here. For the purpose of testing the call quality I spent about two hours trying the roms. The original problem I had with this is the person the other end sometimes can not here me properly. A problem I did not have since I upgraded to the official toshiba rom 6.5.0. When I had november's 6.5.5 rom running to my surprise i had a worst call quality, the qualityon both sides was bad. So I tested the different roms and as a result the radio from the official toshiba upgrade is the best one for me. I am in the UK so it might be a different case with other people on other country.
And just a note the radio version that everyone is using now is originaly release for china so it might not be design for other countrys network. I guess!
Also I have posted this in a couple of threads and aragon said that he can do a tool to easily change the radio on roms. I hope it materials. so thubs up from me.
Just to add. Im using aragon's TG01 Debranded Orange UK - 6.5.0 ROM v0.010 which works perfect for me at the moment. loads of space for program and ram after installing all my apps especially for call quality issue.
Big up.. to aragon
so maybe we, the "european" users, should vote for an 6.5.5-ROM with the official UK-Radio. Or, if aragon gets an "easy-radio-update-tool" to work, we might be able to do it ourselves...
It seems that FFBOY radio layer is better, that what I can see, but it's not easy, because all ROM works well, with some diffenreces.... No need of SRSWOW with ffboy's ROM.
DubRas said:
so maybe we, the "european" users, should vote for an 6.5.5-ROM with the official UK-Radio. Or, if aragon gets an "easy-radio-update-tool" to work, we might be able to do it ourselves...
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I'm from Romania this means from Europe here only work the latest Hong Kong radio driver 5005.1600.05 the other one from official UK keep getting problems in call quality.
Do i get that right: there seems to be no easy answer to the question: which is the best radio? Cant believe it, but my technical knowledge is maybe much too low for that. The "Easy-radio-update-tool" might be a possibility for every single user to find the radio that works best for him and in his country/network. So hopefully a tool like that will appear sometime in the future.
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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Yes i can confirm that too.
useyourfist said:
im using the newest offical tosh 6.5 update cooked with the
5005.1600.05 radio by aragon this has drastically improved my sound quality i no longer need srswow plus as it the offical rom there is not bugs ect
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What country of you used
I use WM 6.1, but only chinese version... i don't understand nothing, but....... radio works perfectly in my country. it's the first time, when my phone works good, when i am talking with somebody... you can find this rom in the ffboys rom link (somewhere in last posts there is a link for 6.1)I AM VERY SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
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What country of you used
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i use uk/english rom
Strange. I've been using ffboy's Sense Rom with 5005.1600.05 radio and my call quality is worse. Loads of people here are saying it was better for them. Mind you, it was the same story with the original 6.5 update. Loss of people had problems, but others swore blind that it was perfect for them, with some even suggesting that we must have had a bad batch with a unique hardware fault. I think it's fair to say I ruled that out. I've had 8, some of them refurbs, but the last two were brand new replacements. They were all the same for me. A couple of people suggested it was more to do with varying quality in beteen gsm or 3g areas of network coverage.
One thing I noticed that helped sometimes was to change the volume slider up or down and for some strange reason, the other caller would say that it was better, but then it would get bad again after a few minutes. I once tried dialing my own number and leaving a message on my own voicemail to see what was happening and I discovered that the sound started breaking up particularly at the point when the screen turns off shortly after the start of the call. Anyone else noticed that?
Confused.
Like some others, I found the latest UK Toshiba update to be the best for me so far, although not prefect.
Has anyone had problems with 5005.1700.05?
i had big problems with the 1700 radio. So i had to go back on a rom with a 1600 radio.
I tried 1600 radio version it is not that good. My friend can hear heavy echoing and the time for phone to response is too slow(in my case 20 secs later). WM6.1 has much better radio quality.
I used Japanese version of tg01, when flashed Uk rom radio dont changed, how to change radio for this version ? plz help me, this radio version is really suck (sorry my bad english)
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i had big problems with the 1700 radio. So i had to go back on a rom with a 1600 radio.
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hi,
same experince for me.
switch radio
Is it posible to switch radios without swithing rom's?
Hi Everybody,
I would like to know ,What is the meaning of radio version number? 1500,1600,1700 it mean frequency?(5005.1500.05,5005.1600.05,5005.1700.05)
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Hi Everybody,
I would like to know ,What is the meaning of radio version number? 1500,1600,1700 it mean frequency?(5005.1500.05,5005.1600.05,5005.1700.05)
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No frequency related, those(&many others) are radio software versions (generally fitted to certain ROM versions, depending on country?!), so far nobody knows precisely differences between them...