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I bought a new SX56 from an ebayer and it appears to be unlocked etc. I put my current active Cingular SIM card in it but I get a no signal message after it searches for signal. The device came with xda-developers.com ROM version v1.2 on it. I have tried to switch to all of the different Bandswitch settings with no success. HELP PLEASE!!! ANYONE??!!
What's your RSU version ... you can get it from device info or displayed while booting.
PS: it's very risky to use the GSM menu this way. Check with your operator and select the right band once and for ever.
No signal on SX56
My device info is:
ROM ver: 3.17.03 ENG
ROM date? 05/15/03
Radio Version 6.12
Protocol version 324e4
Seems you have a bit old ROM and RSU ... you better check with one in your area but I see here some people have either TMO 4.01.00 + 6.24 or AT&T 30.09 + A30 and they are on Cingular. The right bandwidth setting is the key factor.
Thanks for your reply. I don't know how to do the updates you refer to. I hate to return the thing because I got a good deal on it, but if I can't use it on Cingular I don't know what else to do with it? Any help would be appreciated.
Doc
You can get the complete TMO update (ROM + RSU) here ftp://tmobile:[email protected]:21
Good luck ...
Hi,
I tried to link and get an error trying to connect. Could you please send it again :?: ? Do you think updating to windows 2003 would be if help? I can download it for free from the Siemens website. I just don't want it to lock the phone or cause any damage!
Doc
The official update from AT&T should be OK ... however, you device is better to be PW10B type (check the rear sticker) these upgrades were made for USA use.
Also, if you are in the Cingular 850Mhz only zone, you wont be able to catch signal, cause none of the RSU's will support this band.... (quite unfortunate for all of us in North America)
Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure of the Band mHz on Cingular. I will try to find out from them if I can. Guess I'm the die hard type but I still want it to work or I'll have to abandon it. Any other help will be appreciated
Doc
Mavrik said:
Also, if you are in the Cingular 850Mhz only zone, you wont be able to catch signal, cause none of the RSU's will support this band.... (quite unfortunate for all of us in North America)
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Quite unfortunate indeed. What are the chances that AT&T will release one in the future to make it compatible with Cingular 850 networks after the merger?
I still think there is a way to tune a digital device to another frequency. AT&T has a deal on these for $99.99 and it was just bought out by Cingular. It would be logical that Siemens has something in the mix an upgraded model, different freq. etc.
Doc
doc said:
I still think there is a way to tune a digital device to another frequency. AT&T has a deal on these for $99.99 and it was just bought out by Cingular. It would be logical that Siemens has something in the mix an upgraded model, different freq. etc.
Doc
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That's what I am thinking. I am a Cingular employee so I bought one to put on my ERP but I can only use AT&T and T-Mobile signals at the moment.
I am 100% certain that it is possible to get the device to work on 850, more than likely just restricted in the radio stack.
You are lucky!! I have six phones through Cingular and they have been trying to get me a Treo 600 since December!! I'd prefer a windows based device hence my reason for buying a SX56. I had no way to know it would not work on Cingular. All the ads I see for unlocked phones claim they will work on any GSM carrier with an active SIM card.
Obviously it doesn't work hence my involvement in all of this!!
Doc
It is possible that somebody has got cingular sim to work on 850, if they were in close proximity to a mast maybe the 50mhz wouldnt mean too much and a signal could be acquired, but you would still be using a phone detuned by 50mhz which isnt an ideal situation.
I'm not an expert but 50mhz is a pretty big difference in frequency. The splash over from 800 to 850 or 900 to 850 is pretty big. It probably would not work very well even a few feet away from the site where it functions. Still there has to be a way to to tune one of these to 850mhz.
Doc
re: the 850 tunning question, As far as I understand this is a hardware aspect of the radio, thus you can not tune to this freq. This is also the reason AT&T did not brand the XDA II, because HTC would not impliment 850 into the device. You are more likely to see a HP6300 or MPx in this department as they are both quadband phones (meaning 850 implimentation) the real question is, will either of these phones be EDGE enabled? My quess is the HP will but the MPx will not. Reasoning: Rumor was HP was using TI Ref design WANDA. TI make EDGE hardware for phones. TI processor may be in the HP phone. The bottom line is you will need new hardware for 850 or EDGE. Sorry for the bad news, I too would love to be proved wrong. Guess I'll have to pony the dough for one of these two new devices. I really loved my HTC device but if they aren't going to keep up...I have no choice. I still feel the XDA will be a better over all device, but without 850 & EDGE implimentation it's going to fall way short. It's nice to own a Corvet, but if a Honda goes faster...why buy the brand name.
re: the 850 tunning question, As far as I understand this is a hardware aspect of the radio, thus you can not tune to this freq. This is also the reason AT&T did not brand the XDA II, because HTC would not impliment 850 into the device. You are more likely to see a HP6300 or MPx in this department as they are both quadband phones (meaning 850 implimentation) the real question is, will either of these phones be EDGE enabled? My quess is the HP will but the MPx will not. Reasoning: Rumor was HP was using TI Ref design WANDA. TI make EDGE hardware for phones. TI processor may be in the HP phone. The bottom line is you will need new hardware for 850 or EDGE. Sorry for the bad news, I too would love to be proved wrong. Guess I'll have to pony the dough for one of these two new devices. I really loved my HTC device but if they aren't going to keep up...I have no choice. I still feel the XDA will be a better over all device, but without 850 & EDGE implimentation it's going to fall way short. It's nice to own a Corvet, but if a Honda goes faster...why buy the brand name.
I'm getting depressed. I bought this thing thinking it would just be a matter of sticking the SIM card in and off we go!! I've emailed 15 times, joined three different PDA/Phone forums and learned more about these damn things than I ever intended. Now I have a slow PDA, a car charger, extra case, extra sync/usb cable and it won't work on Cingular which I can't change!!!
HELP!!!
Wallaby from T-Mobile works fine with Cingular
Excuse me if I'm way off base, but I just moved over to Cingular from T-Mobile using an unlocked Wallaby, and it works fine. The only thing I haven't been able to do is to make a GPRS connection.
i live in the usa and i have the 8525 and i unlocked it and supercid unlocked it via pof's method.. i used fit4cat to tweak it out a little and the ptt hack to use voice command via the ptt button...
Right now i am in brazil and i have tried several peoples sim cards and none of them seem to work.. it does not give me the invalid sim message so i know its unlocked...have i done something to my phone with the hacks and unlocks that make it not workable in brazil ..is there some setting that i need to set in order to have the phone work in brazil on TIM or Claro that im not doing...
Please help.. as of right now i am sitting in a hotel room trying to get my phone to work via the internet...
thanks
-abe
anyone have any solutions???
I would say look at the wiki to find the registry tweak that enables the band selection in the phone options. And then try changing the band.
Brazil is a 900/1800 GSM-band country. Have you tried switching your phone to GSM-only?
Incidentally, I'm heading there myself next week, and I'm equally curious about how the phone will react to the network down there...
well, i hardreset the phone and put it back to orriginal and that still didnt work.. i also was online with cingular tech support and they said everything should be working.. well it isnt.. and they also said it could be the radio of my phone... so as of right now im sitting in a hotel in sao paulo downloading the rom from htc http://www.htcamerica.net/support/8525/software-downloads.html ...maybe if my install got messed up some how this will fix it... on another note.. my girlfriends Moto Pebl works fine with both mine and her cingular simcard.. full service.... how strange.. ..
if i didnt the regestry tweak to pick networks to be on that might fix it .. but i should be fully able to roam already...
if anyone has some ideas' im all ears..
I found a similar thread over on HoFo. One guy also posts a solution. Here is the link: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1058899
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barrydavisjr said:
I would say look at the wiki to find the registry tweak that enables the band selection in the phone options. And then try changing the band.
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well i must say.. i didnt think this would work because of the fact my phone should work here by default.. but hey.. i gave it a shot.. i did the tweak and in the phone settings tab i set the phone band to select network type = auto and select gsm umts to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)..then reboot to let it search again.. and blam.. it worked.. thanks guys...
-abe
one more question that is off topic... on the bottom of my 8525 the mini usb hole as a black lip around it.. on one side of it its flush with the phone and on the other side it is raised a little above the casing... is this the same with all of them.. or is the usb bezzle black thing deffective on mine?
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well i must say.. i didnt think this would work because of the fact my phone should work here by default.. but hey.. i gave it a shot.. i did the tweak and in the phone settings tab i set the phone band to select network type = auto and select gsm umts to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)..then reboot to let it search again.. and blam.. it worked.. thanks guys...
-abe
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I work for Cingular and know that they sometimes do things that don't seem logical. Like building the ROM and not allowing the auto detect of a network.
Hi there, I´m from Brazil, if you want call me, send me a pm first. I have a Tytn and universal working.
honestabe said:
well i must say.. i didnt think this would work because of the fact my phone should work here by default.. but hey.. i gave it a shot.. i did the tweak and in the phone settings tab i set the phone band to select network type = auto and select gsm umts to GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)..then reboot to let it search again.. and blam.. it worked.. thanks guys...
-abe
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EUREKA!!! Thanks for finding and posting this, Abe. I'm having exactly the same problem in Australia and I did the same thing as you; now I have cell service!
BLAZES, CURSES AND GENERAL DAMNATION TO CINGULAR for removing the 'Band' tab from Phone | Settings. I mean really, if you'd never used WM5 before, how would you even know it was missing? It's like one of Rumsfeld's Unknown Unknowns.
HTC Tytn in Brazil - Easy with the Tweaking
Hi Guys!
Before you guys go on tweaking your devices to death, try something simple! I just got back from the Far East where my Dopod was running 3G. I had selected Auto on the network type and band. Guess what, my phone was dead! I reseted and hard reseted and eventually it occurred to me that the problem may lie in the networks setting. For some reason my Brazilian service provider (TIM) is sometimes unable to "inform" the phone what kind of network it is running and what band. Thus I forced it to GSM and selected 900+1800+ UMTS(2100). It works perfectly ever since!
Cheers
yeh, i cant figure out why they removed the band tab... it is very usefull to have... and when i was on cingular.com i went to a live techsupport chat where the woman told me my phone was deffective, and when talkin to her i realized i had more knowledge then her on the device and quickly x´d out of the window in the middle of the conversation... Bottom line is that cingular should have never removed that band tab from the phone.. well, im happy for whoever this post helps ....
-abe
wierd thing happend... after i did the reg tweak and had my phone picking up service i then went to install a few apps i needed on the phone... i didnt like the way things were going so i decided just to hard reset the phone and start from scratch... after a hard reset the phone suddenly picked up service with no reg tweak.. i cant figure out why this happend because i hard reset the phone before i applied the reg tweak and still got no service..... so no my phone had no reg tweak and service. ..strange.. i wanted to cover my ass so i applied the reg tweak again to be on the safe side...
fit / finish around usb port
honestabe said:
one more question that is off topic... on the bottom of my 8525 the mini usb hole as a black lip around it.. on one side of it its flush with the phone and on the other side it is raised a little above the casing... is this the same with all of them.. or is the usb bezzle black thing deffective on mine?
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I just replaced a buggy 8525 with a new Cingular 8525, and both of them have the black bezel sticking out from the outside just a bit. nothing a dremel tool wouldn't fix (/shudder/)
I have had the "no service" problem in both Sao Paulo, and Rio... I did the band selection registry change described on the wiki, will see tomorrow if the phone change or the reg. change fixed my "no service" problem in Brazil.
as a side note, the macro slide next to the camera lens was very loose on the old phone, would almost move by shaking the phone... the new phone has alot of resistance when sliding the macro knob...the old one must not have been attached to anything!
UPDATE: New phone works great in Brazil, I did the registry change to allow access to the "Band" selection in the phone settings, but did not have to change them from the default "Auto" settings to allow it to find the networks in both Sao Paulo and Rio. I believe the new phone fixed the problem.
Cingular 8525 in Brazil
You guys are fantastic! I cannot thank you enough for the apparent solution to the problem those of us with Cingular 8525s in Brazil have had.
I have lost many hours, not to mention some $$$, trying to get around the "no bars icon of death" on my 8525 when I was in Brazil. Cingular have been totally incompetent in trying to provide a solution, although they recognize a problem. I just posted a message in their forum suggesting they get their incompetent selves over to this forum to learn something.
I am going to try to apply the reg tweak, although I am not as technically competent as most of you. Now I can't wait until I have to go back to Brazil on business!
I'm from Brazil...
I bought an iPaq from Cingular long time ago, and I had a lot of problem to get it working here. Now I have 2 Qteks, on boght on Europe and other one bought in Brazil, both working great here.
I think the problem is always Cingular.
fabio.palma said:
I'm from Brazil...
I bought an iPaq from Cingular long time ago, and I had a lot of problem to get it working here. Now I have 2 Qteks, on boght on Europe and other one bought in Brazil, both working great here.
I think the problem is always Cingular.
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GR8 Conclusion!
I've mine TyTN as well, working good since that arrived here.
Hi
The problem actually is VIVO. The started a new GSM operation at the 850 band and since them all the Windows Mobile quadband devices (also triband with 850 Mhz) try to register first at Vivo. Due to a bad network configuration, the phone do not try other bands and networks and remains at SOS Only - Emergency Only since Vivo will not allow registration with another SIM card. The same problem happens with Smartphones too, even with Treo 650.
BR
Julio Cohen
juliocohen said:
Hi
The problem actually is VIVO. The started a new GSM operation at the 850 band and since them all the Windows Mobile quadband devices (also triband with 850 Mhz) try to register first at Vivo. Due to a bad network configuration, the phone do not try other bands and networks and remains at SOS Only - Emergency Only since Vivo will not allow registration with another SIM card. The same problem happens with Smartphones too, even with Treo 650.
BR
Julio Cohen
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Great Julio... perfect as always
Here goes some "official info" I found:
Cingular said:
From Cingular:
International Roaming Device Issue
Issue Description:
Cingular has identified an international roaming issue impacting several
different handsets and resulting in loss of service. Specifically, users
may experience problems when devices are taken into an area where North
American (850/1900) and European (900/1800/2100) frequencies co-exist.
Cingular is not the only North American carrier impacted since the issue
is device-related, not network-related.
The following countries currently have carriers broadcasting on both
North American and European frequencies:
Brazil
Australia
Trinidad and Tobago
Thailand
The following are known devices impacted at this time:
Treo*
Samsung BlackJack
BlackBerry 7290, 7100g
LG CU500
*As a workaround, Treo users may leverage the devices ability to scan
for carriers on specific frequencies.
Current Status:
Cingular is in the process of engaging the device vendors identified
with impacted devices.
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Great Julio... perfect as always
Here goes some "official info" I found:
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Yeah, I saw this in the Cingular user's forum. Did you notice that our 8525 is not listed in Cingular's publication?
Hi to all budding cooks!
I have links here - thanks to HTC e-Club Australia - for those who wish to download the original signed ROMS for three of the four Australian mobile network providers: Optus, Vodafone and 3 Mobile. Unfortunately the folks at HTC haven't seen fit to publicly release a Telstra-specific ROM for the Next-G network, or else I'd have a link here for that too.
The ROMs available from the links below include the radio in the package, and will install it along with the network-specific stuff for each provider.
Click on the link to start your direct-to-PC download:
Hutchison Telecoms - 3 Mobile (this is the latest one, released on December 4, 2008)
Optus and Vodafone Networks (this is the same one HTC released on October 27, 2008 - no other update for Optus/Vodafone available as of January 3, 2009)
Links also added to the Raphael Wiki Page
Hope these can be of help to someone.....
Thanks for these. Have you tested any of them
Optus / Vodafone ROM
OK I have flash to this rom and so far so good.
It's a fully unbranded rom. Not even the program shortcuts in touchflow have been inserted.
This upgrade has fixed a main problem of mms for me where I can now send and receive mms again. I could not do this with.405 WWE rom. Radio is the the stock radio and I have had not improvment here in AUS and will upgrade to .28 or .32 shortly.
No speed diffrence and you will need to redo your confiqs again or restore from backup
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Thanks for these. Have you tested any of them
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Only the 3 Mobile and Optus ones, and both work well. Haven't tried the Telstra ones, 'cos I hate Telstra and everything they stand for. My only dislikes are the telco's brandings everywhere on the 3 Mobile ROM, other than that they run exactly like the stock HTC ROM.
As for the radio I'm using with Optus, it's 1.02.25.32, and here in Newcastle it's clear as crystal. Send/receive MMS is fine, and SMS goes on GSM like it always has with Optus.
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Only the 3 Mobile and Optus ones, and both work well. Haven't tried the Telstra ones, 'cos I hate Telstra and everything they stand for. My only dislikes are the telco's brandings everywhere on the 3 Mobile ROM, other than that they run exactly like the stock HTC ROM.
As for the radio I'm using with Optus, it's 1.02.25.32, and here in Newcastle it's clear as crystal. Send/receive MMS is fine, and SMS goes on GSM like it always has with Optus.
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Great thanks. Yes I am using the Optus one as well and still on orignal radio and so far so good, only had issue restoring the backups would not reinstall the programs and settings which is a bit of a pain But the Rom feels faster after the settings applied then the orignal I had. I don't know why I could not get mms to work on orignal rom .405 I had all the correct settings and it would never send now it's like perfect again.
Will upgrade radio next as .19 always has some lagg in connecting to the network
The file name of Telstra rom seems like Diamond... I don't think Diamond and Raphael shares the same rom right?
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The file name of Telstra rom seems like Diamond... I don't think Diamond and Raphael shares the same rom right?
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It is for the Touch Diamond, yes, you're right. Apologies, and all references to it are now removed.
any ideas if this rom works on a vodafone uk device?
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any ideas if this rom works on a vodafone uk device?
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Not sure, mate. Seeming though I live in Australia, I haven't been able to set up my computer somewhere in the UK and get my hands on a Vodafone UK edition Raph to test it. Maybe you could test it yourself, see how it goes, and post your results here.
There's nothing to worry about. Only one of four things could happen, and all of them are reversible.
(1) The flash is a failure: you brick the phone. Elsewhere in this forum are threads committed to helping those with bricked phones;
(2) The flash is a success, but you don't like the look, feel and speed of the ROM post-install;
(3) The flash is a success, but the Radio/modem isn't working well for you on your particular network, or
(4) The flash is a success and the whole thing works to your satisfaction.
Trial and error is the key to advancement. You will get nowhere if you don't try, and you always have here a number of others with the same device, to help you out of a bind if you get stuck. Great minds think alike, and as Dr. Conrad Zimsky said in 'The Core', "That's all science is, is best guess..."
cheers mate, my only worry is bricking. im new to winmo so all the flashin is new to me.
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cheers mate, my only worry is bricking. im new to winmo so all the flashin is new to me.
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I suggest first and foremost you go to the Raphael Elite Team Thread and grab the HardSPL from there. For further instructions on how not to brick your phone, check out this thread. If you haven't already, install ActiveSync 4.5 for Windows XP, or Mobile Device Center 6.1 for Vista. Make sure you download and install the correct version for your operating system, as there are 32- and 64-bit variants.
Connect your phone to your PC through whatever Sync application you installed, then Flash your phone with the HardSPL first. Trust me, I've done it myself and it works, as long as you follow the instructions the boys have left in a text file included in the *.zip's you'll grab from that thread. After that, it's all smooth sailing. Installation of ROM's from wherever you decide to grab them is a risk each time you do it, but make sure that if the ROM's chef has specified a certain Radio to use with what he's cooked, that you Flash that to your device first then hard-reset, then Flash the ROM.
Hope this has helped a little bit.....
hmmm i think i must be missing something. ive flashed hardspl no problem but i get an invalid vendor error when i try to flash the voda rom, i thought hardspl stopped that? maybe im just a noob missing something
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hmmm i think i must be missing something. ive flashed hardspl no problem but i get an invalid vendor error, i thought hardspl stopped that? maybe im just a noob missing something
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Try going back to the original SPL that you can grab from the same place you got the unsigned from. Then try flashing with the Vodafone/Optus one I've posted links to @top of thread.
same error. everything back to stock & nothings bricked so no biggy. i wanted the radios more than anything because i get pretty sucky reception at home but vodafone say i shudnt. oh well, no harm done a least.
Thanks for your help.
Can anyone verify if the optus rom gives access to the WCMDA 900 band that we know the device is capable of? Cheers
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Can anyone verify if the optus rom gives access to the WCMDA 900 band that we know the device is capable of? Cheers
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As far as I am aware, the device flicks between whatever frequency is available. That is, if the 900MHz band is there, then it uses it, but when the 2100MHz band is around, it'll switch to that one. I was happy with that stock Optus ROM in my Raph, using my Optus SIM card, but have gone back to the T.I.R. (PDM) one simply 'cos I like it.
My Raph is an original outright device bought from 3 Mobile - with the 3 generic ROM installed - but because I jumped from a stock Vodafone service to Optus ('cos Vodafone here in Newcastle are not providing 3G/HSDPA) I chose a ROM I liked the look of.
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As far as I am aware, the device flicks between whatever frequency is available. That is, if the 900MHz band is there, then it uses it, but when the 2100MHz band is around, it'll switch to that one. I was happy with that stock Optus ROM in my Raph, using my Optus SIM card, but have gone back to the T.I.R. (PDM) one simply 'cos I like it.
My Raph is an original outright device bought from 3 Mobile - with the 3 generic ROM installed - but because I jumped from a stock Vodafone service to Optus ('cos Vodafone here in Newcastle are not providing 3G/HSDPA) I chose a ROM I liked the look of.
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Hi there do you get the UMTS 900 band option in the band tab? My 3 rom only gives me 2100, 800, 850 options in UMTS and the usual GSM frequencies.
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Hi there do you get the UMTS 900 band option in the band tab? My 3 rom only gives me 2100, 800, 850 options in UMTS and the usual GSM frequencies.
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I just check out the Optus /Vodafone ROM and the the GSM/UTMS band options have dropped down to 2 options
Auto
UTMS (900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
Netwrok type is
Auto
GSM
WCDMA
My settings are auto auto and get HSPDA all day in Canberra
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I just check out the Optus /Vodafone ROM and the the GSM/UTMS band options have dropped down to 2 options
Auto
UTMS (900+2100)+GSM(900+1800)
Netwrok type is
Auto
GSM
WCDMA
My settings are auto auto and get HSPDA all day in Canberra
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Perfect! Thanks very much for the info.
Hi, this is an interesting discussion about band freq's here...
I'm running 1.02.25.19 with ROMeOS 1.21 WWE and I see the following options:
Auto
GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100)
GSM(1900+850)+UMTS(1900+850)
UMTS(2100+800)
I'm with Vodafone. I do not experience any call quality issues, slow call connection or internet speed issues... so I'm not too sure if this changes anything considering Vodafone mainly uses 1800 and they're still in the process of running out 900MHz.
FWIW... I tried running Radio 1.02.25.28 but I did experience issues with my camera, which is why I'm back on .19
Hi!
Great site, lots of info, but the more I read, the more confused I get.
I have an EMobile EMonster Lite S12HT that has a Japanese OS and I think the phone is locked to the EMoblie carrier here in Japan.
What I need to do is unlock the phone so I can hopefully use my Softbank simm card, and change the OS to an english one so I can read the damn thing LOL.
I have a basic idea of how it all works... sorta, but please feel free to treat me like a total noob and give me the full run down of what I need to do this and the best way how.
I think I should also back up my original rom so I would like to know the best way to do that too.
Your help is greatly appreciated!
look around the forum. people ask this every day and normally get an answer, won't take long to find
Sorted - after much messing around! WM 6.5 21820 3G Full vesion works great! I just can get it to see the Softbank network... maybe something to do with the sim or 'frequencies?' the phone receives?
well, i think you'd better give up. i also have the S12ht and i tried every way that i can find but with out any result. if you really want to use SB's service, maybe sigh a X04HT is the best way.
RF hardware is different
S12HT can work with 1700MHZ W-CDMA only.
biligee said:
S12HT can work with 1700MHZ W-CDMA only.
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brother soryy it will work with all networks
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1594&view=1&c=emobile_emonster_lite_s12ht_htc_nike
THANKS
iv been wanting to buy teh htc hd2 for a while, and now that it has been released here in australia it is only exclusive to telstra!! im going to stay with my current provider vodafone!
ONE problem....... the phone is installed with teh telstra stuff, which i don't want!!! as i would like to use the phone with its original settings, (without telstras software installed!!) therefore i would like the phone to its custom and manufactured settings!!
is this possible?? can anyone please help??
Quite easy to do - have just finished the same myself. The Telstra-branded version is not operator locked, so all you need to do is install HSPL, followed by any of the HD2 ROMs (official or otherwise) here. I've loaded a couple of different ROMs so far, and am still trying to settle on which one to use permanently. It should also work with SSPL, but I found the HSPL route to be quick and easy.
The alternate ROMs do not affect the phone's ability to function on Next-G (mine is with Testra for the time being), and I've tested it brefly on a Vodafone SIM as well, with no problems.
I'm certainly no expert on this, but I'd be happy to help if you need any advice or assistance.......
So using the Official WWE would remove the Telstra stuff? I would just like a standard HTC ROM.
Yup - loading another ROM gets rid of ALL Telstra customisations. No loss of functionality that I've noticed, and I'm sure that you can still access mobile Foxtel etc if you wanted, just by entering the appropriate address in the browser (not that I've tried)......
thankyou for you reply cheesekeeper!!!
im sorry to be a pain but i am new to this i understand how to install HSPL, but i would liek to know which rom is safe to use and where can u get a good one from? the OFFICIAl htc website does not have any roms as it only has an upgrade for the camera at this stage!
So which one should i use? could you please guide me to one, i would be happy with any that would simply get rid of the telstra stuff!! so nothing too complex!
PeterMav suggested using the official WWE as he wanted a standard htc Rom... (its sounds like what i want) now how do u do that and where is that from.
i have done quite a bit of reading for most of the day today and it hasnt been as succesful as i hoped, but i feel im getting closer in finding an anwer now!! so i thankyou for you help!!
i also have another question....when i purchase the phone, i understand that wen my vodafone sim goes in, the internet will not work! but im guessing wen i ring vodafone they will send me settings to the phone....NOW do i get the settings sent after i do a rom update or before?
i thankyou for any help possible
This Link has the official WWE from another thread here.
Only got my HD2 today and been reading since this morning trying to get as much info as I can before I flash it.
petermav,
to flash that rom do u still need to install HSPL on the phone or just leave as is and use activesync?? as on the official htc website it doesnt say to do so.
By the way would it be still ok to upgrade using that rom being its not specifically for Australia or is it?
I assume you still need HSPL i'm trying to find that out.
And it should be fine for us in Australia from what I have read.
Warranty issue
HSPL will void your warranty. Make sure you read the threads before FLASHING your ROM.
And as for changing to another ROM you can still use your phone with all its functions.
I'm OPTUS user and I have dZenkinZ ROM installed on my HD2 works perfect, and is stable with minimal BATT drainage.
Can you please tell us what RADIO version TELSTRA uses.
Radio version is 2.05.51.11 for Telstra
So can you flash without using HSPL everything i've read so far says you need it.
saied16 said:
HSPL will void your warranty. Make sure you read the threads before FLASHING your ROM.
And as for changing to another ROM you can still use your phone with all its functions.
I'm OPTUS user and I have dZenkinZ ROM installed on my HD2 works perfect, and is stable with minimal BATT drainage.
Can you please tell us what RADIO version TELSTRA uses.
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i havnt got teh phoen yet, so i couldnt tell you, i wana know if i can change teh telstra before i actually buy it, thats y i am asking these questions!
SAIED16, do u have to install HSPL?? the clip i watched in you tube named "htc HD2 (leo) unlock. How to flash cooked rom" showed that it did not have hspl installed at the 4.30 min mark. it had spl.
besides that even if i want to instal an official htc rom from their website will that work and not void the warranty when i purchase the phone??
Well I just FLASHED the official WWE ROM.
I used HSPL and then run the ROM all the Telstra crap is gone and so far it's working great.
Took a whole 3 minutes to do.
YOu may want to check once you update to a Vanilla ROM that the BAND Selection still includes the NextG Frequency, ie WCDMA 850Mhz, thats if you still want to use the NextG Network. If it is missing you need to add some entries into the Registry to be able to select the WCDMA 850 Band
To check what BAND options you have, goto Phone -> Menu -> Options -> Band Settings.
pies1 said:
iv been wanting to buy teh htc hd2 for a while, and now that it has been released here in australia it is only exclusive to telstra!! im going to stay with my current provider vodafone!
ONE problem....... the phone is installed with teh telstra stuff, which i don't want!!! as i would like to use the phone with its original settings, (without telstras software installed!!) therefore i would like the phone to its custom and manufactured settings!!
is this possible?? can anyone please help??
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Hi pies, Im just curious does the Vodafone HSDPA network cover the 850/2100 MHz frequency that the Telstra HD2 is soley supporting?
pies1 said:
i havnt got teh phoen yet, so i couldnt tell you, i wana know if i can change teh telstra before i actually buy it, thats y i am asking these questions!
SAIED16, do u have to install HSPL?? the clip i watched in you tube named "htc HD2 (leo) unlock. How to flash cooked rom" showed that it did not have hspl installed at the 4.30 min mark. it had spl.
besides that even if i want to instal an official htc rom from their website will that work and not void the warranty when i purchase the phone??
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I would hold off because if you want to use Vodafone HSDPA then the Telstra version wont have any or as much covereage as the European one, 850 MHz is only used by Telstra as far as I know, whereas 3, Crazy John, Vodafone and Orange all use the 900/2100 MHz frequency.
Regards
Flashmore
hi flashmore,
so you think i should wait for the phone to be open to all networks? (i spoke to htc and they said after then it shall be available to the open networks) i know telstra only has the rights until the end of march! so i guess ill wait till then!
thanks flashmore.
pies1 said:
hi flashmore,
so you think i should wait for the phone to be open to all networks? (i spoke to htc and they said after then it shall be available to the open networks) i know telstra only has the rights until the end of march! so i guess ill wait till then!
thanks flashmore.
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Nothing would change at the end of March Telstra will likely re-contract, however, just do some research and check to make sure my info and other info is correct. I bought HD2 from UK which comes standard with a 2 year warranty, AUS you will most likely only have one year warranty, mind you I have the hassle of sending HD2 OS if there are any issues. That is no big deal to me really.
The phone cannot be open to all networks on HSDPA (sort of) since Telstra are the only comapany in Aus using the 850MHz frequency, Telstra model also supports 2100MHz HSDPA so you should get some coverage but not everywhere.
AUS, Telstra HSDPA (NextG) 850/2100 MHz
US, AT&T HSPDA 850/2100 MHz
Rest of the world (including Australia) HSDPA 900/2100 MHz
So the summary If you plan to use Telstra only then buy a Telstra branded model. If you decide to switch providers you will lose some coverage with a Telstra (NextG) model.
Regards
Flashmore
Sorry I need to correct myself FLASHING to a none official ROM will void your warranty.
I used a HTC TOUCH HD, which I bought from TELSTRA. and was Telstra branded. I had to take for warranty claim, since I FLASHED to a non Telstra ROM HTC claimed they will not fix it because I tampered with the phone.
HSPL is like jail breaking iPhone. and you can flash from your SD, and with SSPL you need your PC. Also with HSPL you can revert to Official ROM if something goes wrong during FLASHING which means you could get away with warranty issues. Read post 7.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=609477
Telstra flashing
Hello I am hoping to flash an official ROM to get rid of the telstra stuff, but still use the phone on the Telstra network- specificaly the 850 3G network
So could I get confirmation from somebody that the 850 UMTS frequency is still available to use after flashing, and if so which ROM did you use. (note that the phone working after flashing doesn't necesarily mean the 850 frequency is working- you may just be using Telstra's inferior 2100 frequency.
Thanks
non Telstra HTC HD2 no next G
Hi, im older, and not real high tech savvy but my new HTC HD2 from ebay did not work with Telstra MMS,they sent me settings for other model because theres none on auto config site. OK got MMS but appears only E for edge I assume is 2.5G? I have tried all settings on net and fiddled now got no MMS and Telstra sent me to HTC for rom upgrade..there is none..SO.
How can I get NextG or 3.5G whatever on this phone,getting dropouts as in country area. I would be happy for Telstra branded if the thing worked on Next G. I know settings up the creek as when send mms test message I get reply Pocket NEWS :code is invalid.ha ha ha boy im gonna be iNVALID soon.
Any help would be great .need sort of step by step config thanks
@rockerseven
If you bought your phone off ebay it probably does not have the 850 frequency- check the back- if there's no telstra logo you don't have the 850 frequency. No 850 frequency means no access to Telstras (better) Next G 3g service. This is a hardware problem, you can NOT fix it with a ROM unfortunately. Can't help with the MMS settings sorry- I find it cheaper and easier to send emails via my phone.
Onto my question-
anyone in Oz flashed their Telstra edition HD2 with a (non Telstra) stock or custom ROM and had it still work on the Next G 850 UMTS frequency, and if so what radio did you use?