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so I've unlocked my XDA and use a 3 sim. I can make calls just fine, I can receive text messages just fine but I cannot send texts messages.
Also, I cant access my sim contacts either. I can get around this by copying my contacts to the PC and then to the XDA but I use multiple PC's and am always forgetting not to synchronise contacts on any PC's other than the one with the correct data so I keep losing it.
Anyone got any ideas how I can resolve this.
I have an update for you all.......
I've spoken with 3 and they have assurd me (for what it is worth) that they have not imposed any restrictions on sending SMS (I wondered because I know alot of people take the 3 contract for the cheap calls and then don't use any 3 services but use the O2 roam facility that presumably costs 3 money) so I have to assume I have a set up or technical problem with the XDA.
When I try to use SIM Manager I get an error message saying "Sim is busy. Wait 5 seconds and try again.". Well I wait and wait but it doesn't get any better than that.
SIM Toolkit does nothing when I try to use it, not even the graciousness to give me an error message.
3 said just type in the servcie centre number and away you go (they also said to uncheck the "use unicode when necessary" box) but that doesn't seem to help. Also after I type the service centre number in and try to send an SMS, which fails everytime, I go back to where you enter the service centre number and the field is blank again.
The error message I get when I try to send an SMS is "Your SMS message has not been sent because the SIM is invalid. Contact your customer service center for a new SIM" Well, of course my 3 sim is valid,it works just fine in the e616.
The SMS messages appear in the "Sent" directory even though they haven't been sent (and they really haven't or at least they certainly haven't been received)
ROM Version is 3.17.03 Eng (in fact it's the XDA developer ROM)
ROM Date 05/15/03
Radio Version 4.16.00 (I down graded to this to get the thing unlocked)
Protocol Version 32S54
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Can aybody please help. I have my XDA and at present an NEC e606 phone that came as part of my contrat with 3. The XDA is unlocked and I can use my 3 Sim Card with it and can happily make calls, receive calls and receive text messages on my XDA.
I cannot however send text messages using my XDA with the 3 Sim Card. Whenever I do I get an error that says 'The sim card is invalid. Please contact your service provider for a new sim card.' I do not want to have to use the e606 at all and am desperate to try to figure out why I cannot send texts via my XDA. I have put the sim back into the 606 and it sent texts fine so I don't think its the sim.
Also in the 606 the sim is read fine for the contacts stored within but in my XDA when I go to Sim Manager I get an error every time saying 'Sim is busy. Wait 5 seconds and try again.' Does anyone know why I am getting this error??
Apologies for what are probably basic questions but I am new to the XDA and am not too sure which way to go about this or what settings (if any) may need to be changed. It just seems strange that I can receive texts, make calls and receive them as well but cannot send texts.
Anyone have any ideas??? Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
With thanks
Jollster
My config details are:
Pocket PC Version 3.0.12039 (Build 11178)
ARM SA1110
64MB
ROM Version 3.17.03 ENG (XDA-Developers Special Rom 1.1)
ROM Date 15/05/03
Radio Version 4.21.00
Protocol Version 32S54
Hi
I STRONGLY believe that a 3 sim will never work on a GSM phone.
the 3 network uses 3G and NOT GSM. 3G is some new way of doing things that allows faster video hence all the adverts involving ducks etc...
sorry
If that is the case surely I shouldn't be able to do anything with the sim. It seems bizarre that I can receive texts on my XDA with the sim and can make and receive calls on the XDA with the sim as well. The only thing I cannot do is send texts with it.
Does this seem right????
With thanks
In agrement
3 is on the 3G spectrum, not 800-1900 GSM.
You are able to use the SIM card though because, 3 have a contract with O2. When out of 3 coverage you are roaming, just like abroad. To maintain service you connect to the o2 GSM network. now as to what level you connect I don't know.
You can receive texts ok. So do you use a message centre number?
You can make voice calls, o2 gsm network.
what about internet, video, data, etc....
Just remember where you are. Simple questions, are never simple!!
Martin
I haven't tried the internet, video, data etc as I never had any intention of using these services from 3. I went with 3 because of the amazing deal they are offering on X-Network minutes. All I want ot do is be able to do the normal stuff (make / recieve calls and send / recieve texts) as you would on a normal mobile.
I know that 3 have there agreement with O2 and that I drop onto there network when not in a 3 service area for calls. I am not totally sure about the settings for the message centre number but surely these would be on the sim card itself anyway. As I said I can send texts using the e606 handset but just not with my XDA. Why would I be able to receive texts using my XDA but just not send them.
I have got my SMS message centre number from my network provider and now want to be able to enter the info into my XDA. I cannot do it automatically by 'Get Voicemail & SMS settings' in Phone as it keeps returning an error.
What I want to know is, is there any way or any software that will allow me to be able to manually enter my networks SMS message centre number into my unit.
Any help would be MUCH appreciated.
Jollster
Can you be more specific with the type of error message you receive?
Go to Start->Inbox. Take Tools->Options and touch and hold on SMS. Lo and behold, the Message Centre(er) number.
The error message I am getting is 'Network Error - Unable to read setting from the network'.
In response to your post "Auldg" I did that and entered in the Message Centre Number for 3 (my network provider) and pressed OK. My understanding is that this would have saved the number. Trying to send a text didn't work and I still got the error message "The sim card is invalid. Please contact your service provider for a new sim".
I know there is nothing worng with the sim as it works fine the phone supplied by 3. I have tried 02's message centre number following a conversation with them and this resulted in a failed SMS send as well. I know it is not the XDA as this sends txts using an old T-mobile sim.
When I looked at the SMS centre number again after entering two different numbers neither of them were there. Trying to select a network doesnt give 3 as an available network.
Does the XDA store the SMS centre number in the SIM card or the phone. If its the phone is there a way to hard code my sms centre number into it?? This is driving me mad as I can do everything else with my 3 sim as normal just not send texts
This '3' network, what is it? Is it a GSM provider or a 3G Networks Provider?
Ah "3" !
Are you in the UK on 3? This is a new GSM/UTMS network and I wonder if the SIM card has new fancy stuff on it the the XDA doesn't know how to handle. You are clearly a VERY early adopter, bless you.
I didn't have to enter my MC number (or Voice Mail number) when using my XDA on Orange so these must be picked up from the SIM. Maybe the 3 sim holds these details in a different place from the rest of the networks?
One for the xda-developers firmware gurus to take a look at I think.
And so can one of the XDA-Developer firmware gurus shed any light on this matter???
I didn't really switch for the new technology that 3 offers, quite the opposite in fact as I din't really need to use it. The reason being was the deal on free mins they offered, but that's by the by. I can still use the 3 sim in my XDA and make / receive calls using the 02 network (this is what it uses if it cannot pick up the 3 network) and also receive texts. Just not send them.
Can any development guru's PLEASE shed any light as to this situation and may be even be able to offer a solution. If its even only that its something that can be addressed in an upcoming firmware ROM.
Some divine inspiration from the gods would be hugely appreciated.
So, let me make sure I am getting this right. You currently have no way to set your SMS service center number in the device, and if you do using the normal options the number does not stick?
OK that said you can do a registry hack telling the reg to override the SIM and use "# you choose" number. See my thread towards the bottom on how to novice level write a reg key http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1660
I haven't yet looked up where the reg key for SMS service center number is but I’m going to guess it is located right above or below the location specified in the thread.
I'm just going to guess but I don't think forcing your machine to use a SMS service center number from the device end rather than the SIM end is going to solve your can receive but not send problem. Given the service center, number is what is used to send your SMS. If your device is not reading it from the SIM and you are hand putting it in and it's not sticking this sounds like SIM network problem not device problem, could be wrong though:? Let me know overriding the SIM works. Can you use that service center number to send SMS on other Mobile Terminals (handsets/cell phone) Does a regular cell phone see the SMS service center number from the SIM? If the software set the XDA uses to talk to the GSM network is failing, but works talking to other GSM networks...sounds like a service provider protocol or provisioning problem (the way they have their GSM network set up i.e. do they have their own towers or are they ridding on someone else’s footprint but have or do not have their own switches etc.)
You might also try un-checking or checking the use Unicode option under accounts SMS in Inbox, but this should really make no difference as this is only when necessary protocol anyways, but who knows. I still think it's on your service provider’s end/SIM. The XDA just talks to the network using GSM "Standard" agreed upon protocols for GSM. Now the provider can do whatever they like. These are just suggested standards so problems (maybe) like this from occurring. Anyway, let me know if this makes any difference. Always learning :lol:
Cheers,
E.
You have hit the nail on the head exactly. When I try to enter the number manually it does indeed not stick. I have tried the sim in the original phone that it came with and it works as per normal. All the functionality is there.
The network I am on in the UK is a new network that is giving the 3G technology but this is only being rolled out and is not nationwide. They do piggyback onto another providers network (namely 02) when you are not in a 3G area so that you are always able to make voice calls / send tetxs.
I have no idea as to whether they have there own switches etc as its like trying to get blood out of a stone when talking to there customer services.
I have looked at the thread about editing / creating registry keys and did look at the key that you mentioned. Above the vmail key is an SMS key but opening it led onto all sorts of other fields and protocols which threw me. I am not sure which of these (if any) would be the correct one to start entering SMS Message Centre numbers into or what I would need to hard code it as a new registry key.
To this end I cannot see if hard coding it to make it stick works or not. Can you shed any light as to this??? Would be much appreciated if you could.
With thanks
IanJ
I'm going to see if I can get my XDA to overide the SIM SMSC, I'll post success or
many thanks for your help
Hi. I am asking this question for my partner who has an iMate Smartflip and she always roasts me for not sending here texts when I know I have. (I have a TyTnII with delivery noti on).
It appears she sends an SMS to me and I answer immediately, her Smartfilp does not pick it up but if she receives one 'out of the blue' it's OK. This is also very hit and miss in the way it fails.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this. Checked the Forum and can't seem to see anything.
Cheers.
BTW, tried the obvious and put the SIM card in a different phone and it works fine....
Doesn't she use any data connection (GPRS)? The SMS should be delivered even when are connected but I have experienced delays of messages (I recieved SMS's few hours after the sending even my phone was turned on).
No GPRS in use as it's a PAYG SIM. Just the standard service center number.
It's really strange, the messages are not delayed, just don't appear on the phone even if I send them and get back a delivery notification as if its getting certain data it can't handle.
It's probably been fixed in a HTC firmware update but you know how iMate are slow to follow...
You can install any firmware you want to. If it's not a problem for you/her I hope update (which wipe out all user data as well) helps you. The newest firmware from Cingular would be probably the best one. (I dont have phone from Cingular but Im using their fw so it must be the same with iMate)
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 which i am having a really irritating SMs problem with.
My dad lives in Cyprus, when he sends me an SMS i can not reply, when i try it just says 'sending' then 'failed' . In order to get the text SMS to send to him i have to delete the message thread, then start a new message and it will send. Now if he then replies, i will need to delete the message thread again in order to be able to send him a new message.
I do not have this issue with any other contacts that i am aware. The only difference with my dad is that he lives abroad in Cyprus, and all my other contacts are here in the UK. Has anyone else had this issue? Know what causes it? I have deleted and recreated the contact but still the same.
Many thanks.
Do you have your dad's number stored in contacts with country code or not ? I was on the verge of smashing my phone when i was abroad, trying to call persons in my native country and i couldn't because i didn't have numbers stored with country code. Maybe that's your issue too
I think the problem is related to what SMS server your dad is using, I had same issue with my X-girls phone, no one could direct reply to SMS...
Hi, thanks for the replies.
Sp1tfire, i have changed the number configuration around several times, all with no success.
Fritz, this sounds plausible, however this would surely affect other phones replying? I don't have this issue when using my iphone 4 so it only happens from the Galaxy2 at the minute. I will try and use a colleagues Android phone to text him and test it.
Somehow you, or TSP (Telephone Service provider), have inserted a sms mail server address that is not valid.
here in my country, there has been scams, "cheaper SMS, enter this server setting" and stuff like that, so there is a setting on you phone that is wrong.
FRlTZ said:
Somehow you, or TSP (Telephone Service provider), have inserted a sms mail server address that is not valid.
here in my country, there has been scams, "cheaper SMS, enter this server setting" and stuff like that, so there is a setting on you phone that is wrong.
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Can't be cause of settings, if he can actually send new sms to that number, but he can't reply from the received sms. His settings are correct as long as he can send sms. Must be something else. Are you using default sms app or a third party software ?
Sp1tfire said:
Can't be cause of settings, if he can actually send new sms to that number, but he can't reply from the received sms. His settings are correct as long as he can send sms. Must be something else. Are you using default sms app or a third party software ?
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I am using the stock SMS app. I have just wiped the phone and installed the KF2 firmware. Going to see if that helps.
Sp1tfire, thats right, i can only reply to him when i delete the existing thread. I can however send new SMS to him no problem, so long as the thread is deleted before hand. Very frustrating as i lose the history every time.
Update, exactly the same on KF2 Firmware.
Ok, so i tried with a friends HTC desire and he has the same issue. also found my brother who has an iphone 3gs is unable to reply to my Dads number. So at least know its no longer just my phone and that it must be something the other end. Many thanks for the help.
Same problem here
When I reply to my girl it says: failed, when i delete the whole thread it goes.
It's only when I text her, all the other contact go fine
On my old sgs I had it to, but only on stock, when I was on CM7 it was OK.
Cant imagine that its something with the other phone i'm sending it to though
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Can't be cause of settings, if he can actually send new sms to that number, but he can't reply from the received sms. His settings are correct as long as he can send sms. Must be something else. Are you using default sms app or a third party software ?
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I remember in all the previous phones I've had, there's been a setting in the SMSC Settings allowing the user to specify whether or not to "Reply using the same SMSC" (or something along those lines).
If the option is ticked, the phone attempts to reply to the message through the SMSC that the text originally came from (rather than the one set in your handset).
The cause of the error may be because the SMSC overseas does not recognise your phone/SIM and therefore won't allow the replying message to go through.
And perhaps this may explain why deleting the whole thread and restarting a brand new message works - that is, the new message will go through the SMSC that is set in your phone for your own network.
Although, I've had a look through the settings in my SGS2 and can't seem to find that setting anywhere... (doesnt mean it's not there - it could just be that I don't know my phone well enough because I've only had it for a few days ).
I think your dad's SMS configuration settings is forcing you (or any other person he is sending an SMS to) to reply through his operators message centre
Ask him to check his sms settings and disable any such message centre settings from his side. This should solve the problem.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
I have used a variety of wifi texting services like Heywire, Textfree, etc. The problem is that I am assigned a new number. I don't have data, so even though I might explain to people to text me on my mobile carrier's number (I get free incoming) so that I can receive it wherever I am, they always end up getting confused and texting my wifi texting number and then wonder why I don't receive it right away (because I might not be connected to wifi when they send it).
I need an app that can text over wifi (so I can avoid charges) but uses MY phone number. Even if it doesn't actually use my phone number, I don't care. But as long as it forces the person getting the message to reply back to my mobile carrier number.
I tried mysms, as well as ChompSms, etc; but they all charge to send over wifi to users that don't have the app. And What'sApp and others like it forces the end user to also have the app.
The fact that there are apps like mysms and ChompSms that send sms messages over wifi with your own phone number to anyone that can receive sms shows that it's possible.
Does anyone know of a COMPLETELY FREE one?
Oh, and about mysms. It syncs everything together and just fine, for free. I am talking about purely wifi texting (NOT through my carrier... my carrier charges me 10 cents per outgoing text; incoming is free). Here is what I did to try and set it up.
Settings > Websms connectors
Chose: Mysms out
brought to Google Play Store, downloaded Mysms out connector.
Opened Mysms again
Went back to Settings > Websms connectors
Chose: Mysms out
Checked off "Enable mysms out"
Then I went to create a new message to someone, and tried to choose the "Mysms out" option, but it's always greyed out.
Do I need to add credits? Is that why it's grayed out? If I click on "current text rates" in the mysms out settings, it says "The current global text rate is $0.12 (international only).
I took that to mean that the US and Canada is free and that if I was to send texts internationally it would cost 12 cents.
I just want something that is free for basic texting in the US and Canada.
I tried using Beetalk too, but a) I don't understand how to send an sms in the app AT ALL, and b) I downloaded the Beetalk connector for for mysms's websms to send an sms through it (supposedly it will use my mobile number but through wifi only?) but I can't figure out how to sign in. Nothing will work.
For example, when I "sign up" in the Beetalk app, I enter my phone number and my name (which then is my username?) and it sends a confirmation number via text to my phone. I enter the confirmation number and then it logs me in. But in Mysms, I check it off to enable it, and then attempt to enter my username (at least what I think is my username?) and then I've tried the confirmation number as the password, my "BeeTalk ID" as my password... I have no idea. How do I know my username and password? BeeTalk doesn't even require a password. I tried logging out and then clicking "Log on", but then it gets me to do the process over again; phone number, name, confirmation number; then logs me in.
I am SO confused! Any ideas? I tried contacting the developers, but no response to my problems yet.
Can't do it
Found my answer for mysms. No texting to Canadian and American numbers: mysms.com/en/mysmsout
Any ideas on what else I can do?