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My battery has gone to hell. After getting it down to 5% one day, it just would not hold a charge long. Then I got it down to 10% a week later, and it really got bad. Life is about 1/3 what it used to be. I also have some dust and even small hairs or flecks in the screen.
So...I ordered a new advance replacement unit from T-Mobile, and it just arrived. Simple enough? Well, I have the memory upgrade in mine, so I need to do some component swapping. What's the best way to go about this? What parts can be disconnected easily (or more importantly, reconnected)? Where is the damn battery (didn't see it in the disassembly photos on the site)?
Hi,
Carlos said:
So...I ordered a new advance replacement unit from T-Mobile, and it just arrived. Simple enough? Well, I have the memory upgrade in mine, so I need to do some component swapping. What's the best way to go about this? What parts can be disconnected easily (or more importantly, reconnected)? Where is the damn battery (didn't see it in the disassembly photos on the site)?
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Please specify 'component swapping' in more detail... Are you actually thinking about swapping the memory upgrade??? You do know that that would mean desoldering the 2 big memory chips on both boards, cleaning them and the boards, and soldering them back... How good are you at smd soldering??? We haven't dared doing that, yet... (some pics of upgrading memory of an iPaq are available at http://www.linearlogix.com/ipaq/upgradereview.html
There are commercial services doing the upgrade (32 -> 64 mb), if I were you I'd contact one of those.
Other than that, we're currently swapping lcd screens, touchpanels, mainboards from 3 broken units to create 2 working units and 1 very broken one. So, what do you need to know exactly?
BTW, the battery is stuck on the inside of the back cover.
XDA developer bigmac (taking pictures of the open units right now...)
No, no, I can solder normal stuff, but not that. I mean, I assume what I need to do is keep my own motherboard. I'd like the screen, case, and battery from the new unit. On the radio section, I suppose it doesn't matter either way. So I incorrectly said "component" when what I really meant was "board," and desired advice on doing that.
The hazards of posting in the middle of the night after too much work.
Carlos said:
No, no, I can solder normal stuff, but not that. I mean, I assume what I need to do is keep my own motherboard. I'd like the screen, case, and battery from the new unit. On the radio section, I suppose it doesn't matter either way. So I incorrectly said "component" when what I really meant was "board," and desired advice on doing that.
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Ok, so you want to use the screen/touchpanel/backlight assembly from the new one (smart move, not taking that apart; besides the fact that it's glued together and you need to separate it on the correct separation, that also leaves the risk of forgetting the correct orientation of the glass panel with little dots on it, used to distribute the backlight evently onto the lcd; and, there are slightly different assemblies out there which need slightly different panels...). You should keep all boards from the old unit (old mainboard including old radio unit, use the new screen/touchpanel/backlight assemly, and the new case (which includes the new battery).
You could consider swapping IMEI numbers on the units... Although _shops_ never register the numbers when they give out units, service departments might. You know where to find the tool to do that...
The screwing around of the parts should not take more than half an hour if it's the first time you take apart this unit (but have taken apart small electronics before) and less if you've done it before.
Beware of the really thin clear plastic rings used under the screws to screw down the display...
We won't be publishing a very detailed 'how to swap your screen' instruction any time soon but do have some raw unedited pictures of the operation. I'll see if we can get them online any time soon.
Have fun,
XDA developer bigmac
I ended up doing the change and ran into a snag--the plastic pin that sticks out of the top power button was loose or broken (probably happened in one of the many drops the unit has experienced). When I opened the case, I lost that. Had to send it to PPC Techs to have them solder in a new power switch.
Other than that, disassembly is pretty easy and straightforward. You mentioned you won't publish a how-to...is that because of not wanting to have it on the site, or that nobody wants to write one? If the latter, I'd be happy to write it up and include my detailed pics.
If you want to make a detailed howto on how to open and close the unit, and how to exchange certain parts, we will gladly put it on!
Do make sure to stress that people need a certain level of experience or be willing to risk losing the device though...
Hello,
yesterday I installed some new games on my p4350 and let a friend play with it,
unfortunally he pushed to hard with the stylus and the screen got damaged . the screen is still working but it got a dent.
now I wanna replace the screen myself, anybody can give me instructions how to do this?
Also i wanna know if the soft layer on the top(not the screen protector) and the lcd, is one thing.
http://mikechannon.net/PDF Manuals/HTC Herald Sevice Manual.pdf
download and read that ,it will show you how to disassemble the herald and take the screen out
Replacing digitiser on Herald as opposed to Hermes
Scuse me for butting in but I have both just bought a Herald with a broken screen AND have done a few screen replacements on Wizards, Blue Angels and Hermeses.
On this Herald I had just assumed that you could basically follow the video on YouTube which shows how to replace a screen on a Hermes? I see that the PDF file is quite complicated and is designed to show you how to take off every tiny part if it has failed. The screen replacement is far easier that this, right?
Secondly, I see that you can buy the screen separately from the 'protector' which is I assume the bit with the hole in on your unit? I have to say, I had never seen these replaced separately before: Is this something special to the Herald or can you replace this digitizer separately from the screen on other units as well? If so, how on earth do you get it off the screen please? And is there a reliable way of getting one back on? (There is no reference to this in the pdf manual but the digitizers are suddenly being sold on ebay for about five bucks)
So the question is whether this is still as difficult on the Herald as threads on the Hermes suggest?
I've opened my Herald, and to reach the screen you have to disassemble the whole thing.
It's not that difficult (albeit while following the service manual, since there are a lot of tricky areas like removing the Keyboard), you just need to have patience and not rush it.
Any way to set up device after flash with no touch screen.
The digitizer or screen is not functioning, before i take it all apart as shown anybody no of a way to bypass the touchscreen setup.
before trying to change the digitizer...
(and i know this is crazy but worked for me after replacing the cable going from the screen to the board)
install a screen protector and try again!
I had the same problem after opening my Herald, and right now the screen only works if i have a screen protector on. If not then nothing happens
digitizer replacement is actually very easy.
Jeffreyr1 said:
Hello,
yesterday I installed some new games on my p4350 and let a friend play with it,
unfortunally he pushed to hard with the stylus and the screen got damaged . the screen is still working but it got a dent.
now I wanna replace the screen myself, anybody can give me instructions how to do this?
Also i wanna know if the soft layer on the top(not the screen protector) and the lcd, is one thing.
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As I have now posted on a different thread, the digitizer replacement is actually very easy. You just slip a razor blade under the tabs and lever it off after removing that yellow tape on the back.
moullas said:
I've opened my Herald, and to reach the screen you have to disassemble the whole thing.
It's not that difficult (albeit while following the service manual, since there are a lot of tricky areas like removing the Keyboard), you just need to have patience and not rush it.
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I agree. It was not difficult at all. I took apart and put together the phone a few times after just to develop a feel for it.
We have a tendency to get nervous about it but if you relax it becomes easier.
I have a a extra digitizer that I never used. If anyone wants it, pm me.
Hey,
I have an ATT tilt 2, running an Energy rom. It worked great till 3 days ago, when I noticed a "light" spot on the screen (about 50mm in diameter) , like something had scratched some film away.
I disregarded it as just that, a scratch, but the next day the screen was completely unresponsive. If I press on the spot, it "fills" with a darker color, I am guessing this is the digitizer pressing into the LCD screen, the screen then becomes responsive for a few seconds (Just long enough for me to reset my alarms!), but not always.
I have ready through these forums and online, and it sounds like I damaged something, digitizer or LCD, but I am not sure which I need to replace.
Also, I have read that replacing just one or the other can be problematic as they need to be aligned just so and with no particles in between, but I cannot find any Digitizer+LCD assemblies online for Tilt2...
So I guess what I am looking for is:
Based on above, do I need just Digitizer or LCD or Both?
Can you point me in the direction of a good vendor? The ones I have found are either selling just tmobile or generic replacements (which if I understand are incompatible with the att version cause of camera placement?) or are very unclear which version they are selling and do not clarify it in emails...
Thanks XDA Forums, keep up the good work!
gryswynd said:
Hey,
I have an ATT tilt 2, running an Energy rom. It worked great till 3 days ago, when I noticed a "light" spot on the screen (about 50mm in diameter) , like something had scratched some film away.
I disregarded it as just that, a scratch, but the next day the screen was completely unresponsive. If I press on the spot, it "fills" with a darker color, I am guessing this is the digitizer pressing into the LCD screen, the screen then becomes responsive for a few seconds (Just long enough for me to reset my alarms!), but not always.
I have ready through these forums and online, and it sounds like I damaged something, digitizer or LCD, but I am not sure which I need to replace.
Also, I have read that replacing just one or the other can be problematic as they need to be aligned just so and with no particles in between, but I cannot find any Digitizer+LCD assemblies online for Tilt2...
So I guess what I am looking for is:
Based on above, do I need just Digitizer or LCD or Both?
Can you point me in the direction of a good vendor? The ones I have found are either selling just tmobile or generic replacements (which if I understand are incompatible with the att version cause of camera placement?) or are very unclear which version they are selling and do not clarify it in emails...
Thanks XDA Forums, keep up the good work!
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Do You Have A Screen Protector On Your Phone?
@ Doo Doo
Nope, deluded myself into thinking I was careful enough to not need one... that mistake won't happen again ><
gryswynd said:
@ Doo Doo
Nope, deluded myself into thinking I was careful enough to not need one... that mistake won't happen again ><
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If it's under warranty, do an exchange. That would be the easiest/cheapest option. HTC provides a 15 month warranty normally. Going through your carrier would be a better option, however, as they usually just swap out the headset. If you have no warranty, then just search eBay or Google for the digitizer and LCD. They normally come together. Based on your description of the problem, you'll need both anyhow. Some come with instructions, and some don't. YouTube has a few videos detailing the replacement, though.
I have had a very similar problem on two Tilt 2s now. Looks like the glue leaks out of the side of the plastic over the lcd. Both phones did this on the right side of the screen.
Just in case anyone turns this up in a search like I did and can't swap the phone thru their carrier....
Global Parts Direct sells the ATT versions of these, though the LCD was out of stock at the time of this posting. (I'm too much a newb to post a direct link.)
I just had the same thing happen to me and I was able to swap the phone out with AT&T.
Oddly enough, the bubble wasn't there when I called AT&T but showed up the next day. My screen was unresponsive, called, went through a ton of questions but I had gone through this before with a couple of Fuze phones.
One thing I noticed before this happened which appears to be symptomatic before the phone becomes unresponsive is a large rectangle appears on the phone's LCD. It doesn't obstruct the viewing or anything I have just noticed that it has been on all my phones that have had trouble with the LCD/digitizer.
Has anyone else noticed this?
Sadly my X10 has come to an end. Its been one of the best things I've owned over the past 6 months. But its current state has just made me give up on it
From what was a tiny small crack in the screen has now ended in me getting rid of the phone.
I replaced the digitizer but when doing so scraped off the doublesided glue, so waited another 3 weeks for that to come from overseas.
After finally arriving and damaged the LCD putting it back together. So waited more weeks for that to come. The new LCD is good, I boot the phone to notice the screen goes from 256k colours (looked ****) to normal - almost every time I touch the screen. I investigate to find the replacement digitizers ribbon cable which is attached to the glass has come off. Im putting it down to being faulty as so much care and love was put into putting it back togeather. Im not going to bother ordering a new one.
The last 3 months I've been without it, so its time to move on. Funny enough my girlfriend who hated her x10 since day one (yes we had matching x10's) was given an iphone so I'm taking hers.
As I speak, it sits in front of me in bits and I am seriously over trying to fix it. Its black too.
Dont let your child die
I was thinking of giving it one last go, but I woke up thinking the digitizer cable being broken wouldnt have been causing the bad screen colour. That would have to be LCD related..
So its definately all over with now!
buy a superamoled display from the SGS
oh man, its awful to hear that.
all parts are available if anyones interested
Helo.Sorry for my english but i want to ask, you have all the parts off the phone?My x10 usb is broken and i cant recharge.The motherboard is that im interested.Do you sell it?
Hello.
I wanted to know if you have some spare parts from X10 (Ear Piece Speaker Flex Cable and Keypad Button Flex Cable).
Thank you.
im really interested about the motherboard,you still got it?
Is your phone still up for grabs? Please PM me.
Regards
K
hey.
hey fellow brent I hope everything goes ok with your x10.
Hallo, i have a bit of an unconventional question
I bought cheap LG V30 with broken display glass i planned to repair.
While disassembling phone i accidently peel off and lost 3 small components from main board PCB.
I just want to ask if someone have opportunity to make macro photos from functional phone or possibly to idetify (i belive they are all resistors?), measure them, or any help.
Attaching photos of affected part.
Thanx!
still needed?
Hallo, yes.
This photo came from iFixit.
https://imgur.com/a/dobA2Xx
It's the best quality photo i can find.
Based from it, it looks like it has a contact pin, no idea if it's really that important, but you can short out the resistors that is connected to the cellular module
Edit:
Label 1 and 2 can be shorted, label 3 is not that important, and you will need to resolder a contact pin again, get from other phones that has one
What model is that?
I wanted to make photos from a V300S (korean), but the pcb looks different, sorry.
Next week I can make photos from a H930 (european), but I think it looks different too, I will see.
I can send you a motherboard that I think is a soft brick if you like....
It is a vs996.
Hi, thank you much guys!
I bought that phone as H930 - european, not chcecked what model is it exactly before disassembly. But then i noticed PCB is marked as H930DS - it makes this phone even more valuable for me... But it might be same board for single and dual SIM, so i don't know...
so, here are pictures from a european H930 Single Sim.
The parts are so small, I can`t measure the components.
I hope it helps nevertheless.
Yep, definitely a contact pin for the cellular module.
As i mentioned before you can try shorting out the two resistors so it can directly go to the contact pin
raillpl said:
Hallo, i have a bit of an unconventional question
I bought cheap LG V30 with broken display glass i planned to repair.
While disassembling phone i accidently peel off and lost 3 small components from main board PCB.
I just want to ask if someone have opportunity to make macro photos from functional phone or possibly to idetify (i belive they are all resistors?), measure them, or any help.
Attaching photos of affected part.
Thanx!
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Hi Have you solve your problem yet? I had a similar question and I got help. I think in your situation it would be better to give the circuit check board. I did so and they told me where my mistakes were and made a complete diagram. One day I decided to collect a circuit for a device that would control electrical technique from a distance. This is an expensive system and I decided to do it myself, but it was very difficult and I had to ask for help from experts. Of course, can be experts on the forums, but if not, I recommend following my steps I made a diagram with several errors and everything was fixed for me. Now I know more. If someone has a similar experience, share, I'm interested