I tried the T-Mobile 1.60 rom on my O2 xda2.
It works perfectly with my xda2.
However, I found some interest thing on the new rom upgrade process
1. It seems XDA2 (or HTC Himalaya) use one single program for RAIDO / Extended Rom / OS Rom update. It seems Radio upgrade failure may no longer case device failure, because the RADIO upgrade process is same as OS upgrade process, and not required to copy the whole software into the RAM to upgrade.
2. Sinces some of us (and my XDA2) report that the exteneded rom is READ ONLY, but the upgrade program can update the extended rom. That means the Exteneded rom is not REALLY read only, but somewhere locked it. More funny is , it is seems the Main OS rom is not controlling the exteneded rom is locked or not, because after I updated the extended rom, it is still locked.
3. If O2 XDA2 can use T-Mobile MDA2 update, it seems the upgrade software no longer check the header of the device (At lease this version won't). I think we can use it to change device's language. However I don't know how to dump the rom in .nbf format, is that possible to convert the nb1 format to nbf format?
Thanks.
Hi killercheung...
where are you find the 1.60 rom ?
and the radio what version is ?
Can you put it in my ftp pls ?
it's always on
ftp://dgmatic.com
user: xda
pass: xda
port: 21
...like this we can have it all
Thanks in advance
Denis
I asked here for you, hopefully it will be available for everyone soon:
http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=173744#173744
-arebelspy
killercheung, thanks for that... I'm still deciding whether to apply the new rom to my UK XDA II.... is the language of the rom netherlands? or can I have it all in english as it is with the normal O2 rom?
Do we lose anything from the o2 rom/extended rom ?
I'm wondering if O2 do bring an upgrade out if we'll be able to still use it if we've tried this t-mobile 1.60 rom.... hmmmmm
hmmm decisions decisions... do you think its much better than the current o2 rom?
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
Wiz said:
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
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No need to be sad. Check ur e-mail. Inform me if it doesn't arrive.
satria said:
Wiz said:
Now that I have moved to the 1.60 rom, I must say there's ONE thing I DO miss ....
My O2 BUBBLES ARE GONE FROM MY ASIAN O2.
(I obviously knew this could happen, but thought I'd made a backup of my extended ROM (I DID, but I accidentally tossed it a few days ago) . Who would be so kind as to send me a copy of the O2.cab file from the extended rom, so that I can put the bubbles back into my dialer ...)
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No need to be sad. Check ur e-mail. Inform me if it doesn't arrive.
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mind sending me a copy too ?
thanks in advance
[email protected]
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
killercheung said:
I tried the T-Mobile 1.60 rom on my O2 xda2.
It works perfectly with my xda2.
However, I found some interest thing on the new rom upgrade process
1. It seems XDA2 (or HTC Himalaya) use one single program for RAIDO / Extended Rom / OS Rom update. It seems Radio upgrade failure may no longer case device failure, because the RADIO upgrade process is same as OS upgrade process, and not required to copy the whole software into the RAM to upgrade.
2. Sinces some of us (and my XDA2) report that the exteneded rom is READ ONLY, but the upgrade program can update the extended rom. That means the Exteneded rom is not REALLY read only, but somewhere locked it. More funny is , it is seems the Main OS rom is not controlling the exteneded rom is locked or not, because after I updated the extended rom, it is still locked.
3. If O2 XDA2 can use T-Mobile MDA2 update, it seems the upgrade software no longer check the header of the device (At lease this version won't). I think we can use it to change device's language. However I don't know how to dump the rom in .nbf format, is that possible to convert the nb1 format to nbf format?
Thanks.
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Good news about the T-Mobile ROM. I don't know what they have fixed/patched, but my O2 XDA II ROM never bothered to disconnect the GPRS connection after having spent some time online, not after surfing, not after checking e-mail. Mind you the T-moblile ROM doesn't either, except ....... when checking e-mail, which in my eyes is quite important.
So now I can go back to have my XDA check my e-mail once per hour, knowing that it will disconnect automatically.
(And Satria, thanks for sending me my bubbles
@ ming:
check ur email. Also I've seen ur review at PPCSG forum. Great.
Regards,
satria
Hi,
Just one question. Did any of you that make the update testet with the bluetooth GPS?
If yes, It works? or you still have to install TOWA´s patch?
Regards
JoseF
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
somesex said:
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
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I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.
The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
Hi guys,
I did the update to rom 1.60 and it is great. I have an Imate Pocet PC. the new rom is excellent but with one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: i there a fix to this.
Thanks,
Gilbert
[email protected]
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft
killercheung said:
somesex said:
Hi Killercheung,
You've missed out something ... the EXE file can be unzipped (using Winrar) ... you will then see the same upgrade.exe files, nbf files (3 of them) ... you can then deleted the ms_.nbf so that only the CORE ROM and RADIO is updated, and keep all O2 EXTENDED_ROM content untouch.
You can also use the same method to upgrade to Chinese ...
somesex
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I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.
The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
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For NBF, you can use XDAtools to capture the Chinese ROM, I did once with the English ROM and the file size is exactly the same as the one in 1.60 update. So there should have no missing bytes in the saved file.
For the EXTENDED_ROM, no idea how to save in NBF format ..
I have installed the update but TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5.
@axbl
Hi, What do you think about the update? It´s mutch better than before?
You say "TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5."
Have you installd Towa solution?
Regards
JoseF
Gilbert said:
one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well
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yikes...... did that happen on the old rom as well or did gprs stay connected on the original rom?
I hate the way gprs disconnects on devices.. it's supposed to be always on, and I'd really prefer if it stayed on during suspend etc so that MSN could stay connected, notifying me when I got a message....
Email checking likewise, I'd prefer gprs remained always connected and it'd check email in the background whether off or on, notifying me when it got a new mail.
I can't check the behaviour of my xda II since Im on "roaming" at the moment in another country so no gprs
but can anyone say for sure which way the old vs new rom work in this regard?
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
XDA developer Itsme said:
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
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I get an error 403 forbidden when I try this link.. odd thing is it was working for me earlier..
-arebelspy
oeps. fixed now.
After spending some time reading through the articles in this forum, I am a little bewildered. Its obviously not as simple as running a program is it??
I love and use my m1000 all day, every day and it is vital to my life.
Please please please would someone, anyone, supply step by step instructions on how to safely upgrade as I've already had to have my m1000 replaced as I tried to upgrade my rom to the MMS version as supplied by Orange.
To this day, I am unable to install the rom update to use MMS, I have asked for help from Orange and the modaco website .. and unfortunately, no luck but a pointer to this glorious forum from the modaco website.
Ta in advance ..
mrplatypus
orange comes with 2003 and the newer version is 2003SE
2000 pure is very old
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18287
Apologies ...
Sorry, I meant to type .. WM2003 as opposed to WM2000 and WM2003SE to WM2000SE..
WM2003 to WM2003SE wiv MMS!
In another post on this site (with me in it) the files which reside in the extended rom after the upgrade were uploaded to this forum.
This has provided me with my mms and I am very much happier.
However, I am still after really really BASIC instruction and the files to upgrade the Operating System on the phone, from WM2003 to WM2003SE (or greater?)
Much appreciated.
mrPlatypus
the post i linked to is the easiest way i think
2003SE is not official or even originally in English it's an
Chinese rom hand translated by people in this forum so i dont think we
can expect an official easy operator install for it
also you know that flashing your orange pda would void the warranty ?
voided warranty ..
Ok, I was asking to find out how difficult it would be -- my current contract with Orange officially runs out in September where I'll be upgrading my phone/pda anyway ..
Thanks for the advice and the pointers on legality.
mrPlatypus
Hi,
I hope someone can be kind enough to assist me.
I'm trying to upgrade my SPV M1000 (orange) from WM2003 to WM2005.
I've downloaded the software but when I tried to install it the following error message comes up:
"ERROR 120 : COUNTRY ID ERROR
The ROM image you are trying to use is not designed to work with your pocket pc. Please check the vender web site and downlaod the correct ROM update"
Does anyone know what to do and where to download the correct rom?
Kind Regards
Ok mate first of all let me tell you that I am using Alpine (XDA-IIi), and Himalaya (XDA-II). I know that there is no upgrade for Alpine, but there is an upgrade for Himalaya, and I have upgraded mine (XDA-II) as well, but keep it mind that it is XDA-II not SPV-M1000 but as they both come in one category the Rom I have upgraded should be OK for both.
I can upload the ROM and RADIO if you want/think that you need one.
Cheers
Sidd
Hey,
thanks for the quick reply. If you could upload the ROm I needor send it I would really appreciate it.
I was reading how to manually set it up but thats way to complicated for me
Ok I am trying to upload the ROM zip file but forum is not accepting the file may be because it is large to be attached. Send me a PM message about your personel email address.
Sidd
Why UPLOAD ROM??? try XDA FTP...
I am sorry could someone explain a newbie how to open a ftp site like xda-developer ftp site, i am trying but its giving me some error, not asking any password or login id
Sidd
ftp.xda-developers.com/
Try this to understand
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
and this to login in with a password (this is the download user!!!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]
Now as the FTP Site wants a password you get an error if you just try to open it (as you have noticed)
Hi, following the thread above, I am unable to locate the relevent rom on the o2 server, it is not in the upload directory, or the himalaya directory....
Anyone know where i can get hold of it?
thanks
You can take one version that available and then edited for your purpose. Use ER2003Edit, it is the easiest way to edit. I hope it can solve your problem
pretty sure that o2 never released a 2003SE for himalaya
Rudegar said:
pretty sure that o2 never released a 2003SE for himalaya
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But I have done succesfully to upgrade my O2, as well as change the language
Hi. I Would Just like To Know How To Create A Cab File That Had All The Settings I Used On My Phone.
I Just Upgraded The Firmware On My TyTN To The AT&T AKU 3.3 Rom And Being From The UK This Ment I Had A Lot Of Information To Change In Order To Get My GPRS,WAP,MMS,E-Mails And Keyboard Layout To Work Again. It Would Have Been Really Handy If I Had Had A Cab File Wich Would Have Added All That Data For Me.
So I Was Just Wondering If Anyone Knew How To Do That.
Cheers
Sorry, Couldn't Help But To Post This, But Maybe You Also Need To Change The Setting That Automatically Capitalises The First Letter Of Every Word.
Just kidding with ya . You might have better luck in the Hermes forum, rather than the Hermes Upgrading forum.
You may try to use a software called ''WinCE.CAB.Manager''
mousey_ said:
Hi. I Would Just like To Know How To Create A Cab File That Had All The Settings I Used On My Phone.
I Just Upgraded The Firmware On My TyTN To The AT&T AKU 3.3 Rom And Being From The UK This Ment I Had A Lot Of Information To Change In Order To Get My GPRS,WAP,MMS,E-Mails And Keyboard Layout To Work Again. It Would Have Been Really Handy If I Had Had A Cab File Wich Would Have Added All That Data For Me.
So I Was Just Wondering If Anyone Knew How To Do That.
Cheers
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Easy way is to find the Ext_ROM from a shipped ROM from Orange UK and run the extrom cabs to get the MMS/SMS and GPRS settings etc...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_PersonalCAB