It's been a long time since my last visit. I wonder if it's already here a WM2005 version for the QTEK 2020, and at the same time I'm worried beacuse of the MAGNETO post. Did I understood well someone on Microsoft told to take out the rom's??? Why??? Is it possibel to buy a genuine version of WM2005 for my ppc instead of scrambling and waste lots of hours trying to make a new and suitable one?
My friends, this is all very funny, we have bought a Qtek 2020, I-mate, whatever and microsoft doesn't let us modify it's native software, nor give us the chance to upgrade it, because they don't feel the need to work in a new version for old models... MANY TNKS MS.
Now the important question:
Is it possibel to download a WM2005 version suitable for a QTEK 2020??
If you have bought a PC with Windows 95, you also couldn´t update to Windows 2000. You need a license for this.....
In case of PocketPC the secon problem is, that the os are adapted to each device, so the manufactor/distributors have to adapt them and release them....
Stefan
motowiz said:
It's been a long time since my last visit. I wonder if it's already here a WM2005 version for the QTEK 2020, and at the same time I'm worried beacuse of the MAGNETO post. Did I understood well someone on Microsoft told to take out the rom's??? Why??? Is it possibel to buy a genuine version of WM2005 for my ppc instead of scrambling and waste lots of hours trying to make a new and suitable one?
My friends, this is all very funny, we have bought a Qtek 2020, I-mate, whatever and microsoft doesn't let us modify it's native software, nor give us the chance to upgrade it, because they don't feel the need to work in a new version for old models... MANY TNKS MS.
Now the important question:
Is it possibel to download a WM2005 version suitable for a QTEK 2020??
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Just spoke to head Techie at O2 and the new UK ROM will be posted this Friday - I have an advanced copy and it rocks - with all the advanced fixes including the Bluetooth/Blackberry updates and PC 2003 stuff too.
hi m8,
are you not going to share it then?????
come on you know you want to....
Zetex :lol:
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hi m8,
are you not going to share it then?????
come on you know you want to....
Zetex :lol:
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Man, another bluff-man... never mind about him...
Have you tried O2Ger version? I saw some data about bluetooth fixes, did they put some efforts on HandsFree profiling? any idea? info?
BTW, i'm writing a lil prog for WM03 that will emulate hands-free music playing at your headset, don't u wanna be a beta tester for that? if you have bt head of course! Mine is HBH65 and now it can play only midi files and some low-sampled wavs and can not cojointly work with radio stack on (( so i need beta testers to do some research on headsets specifications and behavior, maybe your will work ok.
BR [CR+LF]
HTC, I will take part in that beta test if you need more testers.
HTC, I will take part in that beta test if you need more testers
yep count me in as well m8
Zetex :wink:
Sorry to sound smug - didn't mean to cause a stir. I can share but only on a 56kb connection so a bit difficult. The full pack will be 25mb. See the O2 reply I got a few mins ago.
The expected size of the download is 25 Mb.
There is also a .pdf instruction file that can be downloaded, this should be approx 120kb
"The ROM download combines both the ROM and Radio updates in one (unlike the previous updates for the original XDA where they were separate).
These should be fully self extracting/installing, but for further info, the .pdf should be checked before running the installation.
Kind regards
O2 Data Support Team"
I have JABRA 250 and XDA BT200 headset if I can help?
RobinHood,
How did you get the file.... O2 did'nt send it to you on an email did they????
that must have taken hours for a 25mb file on a 56k connection..
:shock:
Zetex
I am going to be getting my XDA II in a coupld of days (Australia) I'm guessing it will not have the latest firmware/software on it, is the UK, German and Australian versions different in any way? I am new to the PDA marked (First one, still have not played with one yet, but looking forward to it).
Please post some photos of your new ROM for us to see. Thank you.
XDAII AND Plantronics Bluetooth-Headset M3000
I have XDAII AND Plantronics Bluetooth-Headset M3000, if you need a beta tester....
So, which version is this upgrade? is it the 1.60 or is it newer?
RobinHood >
you cannot not to share it! :shock: :?
On the front page, there was a comment that the GER new ROM features:
- New O2 Active User Interface
Anyone know what this will look like ? What new features it has ?
TIA
can't wait till Friday
O2 UK Update will be posted on their website tomorrow. The Installation and feature instructions are attached.
the "new" gui in german has only minor but nice updates.
The only noticeable change is under My XDA, which changed.
Most obviouse you will have a field "my programs" where you can apply your own programs, I think very useful so you don't need the stylus anymore to start for example the navigator while driving.
Alex
QTEK 2020
Will this update work on the QTEK 2020. I sure do hope so!
Handsfree not icluded
Hey every1
I've downloade the pdf file read trough it and I've notice in the software changes under bluetooth, the handsfree profile is still missing.
I thought that this upgrade was going to resolve this problem??
Any comment from anyone.
Regards
Gigi
It says in the pdf file that handsfree profile and spp is supported and improved, where are you reading that it isnt?
Is there any firm news on the likleyhood of a WM2003SE Upgrade for XDAII's (or any of the other versions of this hardware)? I have seen plenty of posts from people who seem to think it will come sometime but nothing official confirming this.
Given that HP have abandined any possibility of an upgrade for existing users I think it unlikley but I guess it only needs one ISP to offer the upgarde for Himalaya hardware and then we should be able to re-work it for the rest of us.
Yes, I'm looking for this too! I was hoping at least the new T-Mo USA iPaq phone edition would have SE! Is there a way to put that OS on my xdaII? -or is that a bad idea? -is it possible to get that ROM anywhere?
Yes, I'm looking for this too! I was hoping at least the new T-Mo USA iPaq phone edition would have SE! Is there a way to put that OS on my xdaII? -or is that a bad idea? -is it possible to get that ROM anywhere?
here is a qoute from http://www.clubimate.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2872 posted by pmanser:
I just talked with the "live support" on this site. This is a copy of the session
Welcome Paul, please wait while we get you in contact with one of our club advisors...
You're now talking to Ali
Ali> Welcome to club i-mate support. My name is Ali, how can I help you today?
Ali> hi
Paul> hi, i wanted to ask about if/when the Windows Mobile 2003 SE update will be available for the imate PPC
Ali> Microsoft have just released Windows Mobile 2003 SE, however we need to add our elements to the operating system to make it into the complete device package.
Paul> is there any guess on time frame, it as been release by microsoft for a couple of months now.
Ali> there is no exact day for that
Ali> this usualy take 2 mounths
Paul> I have a number of friends who are considering purchasing the imate, but not sure if they should wait a bit longer if it wont be getting the landscape support found in SE. Can I at least tell them that it will be supplied sometime (this year)
Ali> yes sure , The Windows Mobile 2003 SE is totally different from the new upgrade currently available on our www.clubimate.com website that updates the current version of Windows Mobile 2003.
Ali> it will have the ability to view the pages in landscape
Paul> I understand that, just wanted to make sure it will be provided. I know a number of manufactureres have said they would not.
Paul> thank-you for your time
Ali> any more quieries ?
Paul> I have noticed that there is a number of questions about this topic on the support message boards on the club imate site. Is it ok if I post this conversation there to the public to answer the question and lay fears at ease?
Ali> ok thats will be fine , as i told you we need to add our elements to the operating system to make it into the complete device package.
Paul> ok, thank alot, you have been very helpful
Paul> bye
Ali> you are most welcome
Ali> bye
So it indeed seems that it is being worked on. And a big thanks to imate for providing that. All we neeed to do is be patient.
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So will they also fix the handsfree blooper for automatic answering with your BT headset?
Is it possible?
The new XDA IIs has WM2003SE in the ROM image, so would it be possible to steal it from there and add it to a home cooked XDA II rom?
Is there a ROM Kitchen available for the XDA II, or is it only available for the XDA I?
Thanks in advance for your help.
1. still Not Possible at the moment !
2.
M4io said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomkitchen
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1. It will never be possible to steal the complete ROM, since the hardware is different and unlike PC-operating systems, PocketPC ROMS don't have drivers for multitude of hardware. Hardware independant pieces of software could be chipped out and ported to another, like SRS.
2. :lol:
I've used WM2003SE on my XDA2 & it works fine. In fact seemed to be rather more stable than the one it replaces.
It was a NFR version & I've since gone back to 1.72.181 'cos I want Blackberry
Then you must be one of the lucky few who got their hands on a XDAII WM2003SE Rom.
If NFR means NotForSale, that is why we never saw it.
But if you could share, plz
What I meant was that a WM2003 ROM of an XDAIIs can not be used on a XDAII.
I'm pretty sure I could make you a WM2003SE with blackberry support.
Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
I've used WM2003SE on my XDA2 & it works fine. In fact seemed to be rather more stable than the one it replaces.
It was a NFR version & I've since gone back to 1.72.181 'cos I want Blackberry
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Do you still have any of this ROM???? If so please post it here asap as it means a lot of effort can be saved in trying to rip it.
mr puff, maybe you could share the WM2003Se?
pfft zif he'll share
IF is exists WHY hasnt anyone uploaded a WM2003SE ROM for Himalaya???
This means we get (amongst others) Landscape, plus the Possibilities of using the new Intellidialer
I would very much like to try it!!!
Puff: PLZ upload the rom package. We wont tell anyone! :wink: And we wont resell it. promise!
i'm sure someone would volunteer to get the file and upload it somewhere...
Should be nice to trie ... MR Puff or other nice guy could share your rom ...
:lol:
Is a law problem ? NDA ?
Bye
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IF is exists WHY hasnt anyone uploaded a WM2003SE ROM for Himalaya???
This means we get (amongst others) Landscape, plus the Possibilities of using the new Intellidialer
I would very much like to try it!!!
Puff: PLZ upload the rom package. We wont tell anyone! :wink: And we wont resell it. promise!
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I think like edsub.
we will keep a secret and never talk to anyone about it.
People,
You are placing him in very akward position. He is probably under NDA of some kind. Those "releases" usualy very easy to track down to a particular person :roll:
Wait until some kind of "group" will release it. :twisted:
Puff we are all waiting your cooperation
please if you still have the SE ROM. :wink:
Was better don't know that there is this kind of ROM ... now we know ...
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Just a thought
Let's assume that this Himalaya SE ROM exists.
All major providers would easily have access to it.
The only reason for not releasing that, and ask people involved to sign NDAs, is to push sales of the newer hardware.
Which is an acceptable policy, from the viewpoint of a single company.
But when the good old competition works as it should, there is always one of the player breaking these situations.
If this does not happen, it is easy to guess that there is an agreement between the providers for not releasing the upgrade.
Now, that is against the law.
Just a thought, in case anyone involved in antitrust commissions would be reading this forum ...
FYI...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=69465#69465
To Puff
could you please upload your ext.ROM ?
I hope it doesn't include in your promise to microsoft.
thank for advanced.
Hi,
New to this site but glad I found it, what a handy resource!
I recently purchased a 2nd user O2 XDA II (about 12 months old) which is current setup in its factory default state. I have been reading allot about users upgrading their Himalya models to Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition and I wanted to know if the same is possible for the UK O2 XDA II's?
Also will this upgrade lock the Phone and/or reduce the functionality of the phone?
What pre-upgrade tasks do I need to perform first e.g apply updates first etc.
Thanks in advance,
Taz
Watch this site carefully to find out about the SE version - there has been a breakthrough in the last few hours in which mamaich has translated the only official SE ROM (a Chinese one) into English. Work continues...
No Himalaya has been sold with an official English WM2003SE ROM as far as we know, but it may be only time....
What is the existing ROM version of your machine? The latest O2 UK ROM version is 1.72 which you can download from http://www.my-xda.com/xda2_soft.html . It's probably worth upgrading to that if your machine is a year old and is still on its original 1.12 (?) ROM.
Upgrading ROM doesn't re-lock an unlocked phone.
Before upgrading the ROM, backup all important data - it'll be lost in the update.
upgrade
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WIN03 UPGRADES ON SITE AT THE MO BUT STILL IN THE TESTING STAGE.
I HAVE USED BOTH BUT THEY ARE NOT, JUST THERE YET.
AT THE MOMENT I'M BACK ON 1.72 WAITING TO SEE DEVELOEMENTS.
NOT SURE YET IF ITS WORTH THE BOTHER TO GHANGE AS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROGS APART FROM VISUAL IS KINDA MINIMAL TO USE NON TECHIES, AND THERE IS A SOFTWARE PROBLEM IN THE SENSE THAT SOME PROGS DON'T WORK ON SE THAT DO ON 1.72 AND VISA VERSA SO I'M TOLD. ALTOUGH IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY SOFTWARE LOADED THEN NOT A REAL PROBLEM.
BUT HEY WHAT A GREAT SITE, I'M LEARNING NEW STUFF DAILY, SOON I MAY BE A TECHY TOO!
tj
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ukmctc said:
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BUT HEY WHAT A GREAT SITE, I'M LEARNING NEW STUFF DAILY, SOON I MAY BE A TECHY TOO!
tj
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First learn not to type in CAPS, please!
gings
Bad eyesight.............
tj
Ha ha, cheers guys.
Yeah I came across the WM2003SE stuff by accident, was searching the net for some completely unrelated info and came across a link that caught my eye - would you believe it we have not one but two versions to choose from.
I am not too sure if I want to upgrade just yet, one of the reasons I bought a PDA in the first place was to start coding my own apps and as part of a large scale enterprise application I have been developing for over a year now.
If compatibility is an issue then I will hold off for now, I know Microsoft are slowly releasing WM2003SE related development stuff so I don't think it will be long before I take the plunge as I don't mind hacking my PDA's to peices.
As a credit to this site, I was searching various Pocket PC sites on the net (most are to bloated with info or just a bit too American for me) and came across XDA-Developers.com. It was because of the all of the info available on this site that I purchased my XDA II
I have already hacked it apart, I am running the latest 1.72 ROM and 1.17 Radio (is it worth ugrading to 1.18) as well as finally getting Pocket Hack Master to run the thing at 600Mhz with a 200Mhz bus (I will post the correct settings once I have verified that they are indeed the most stable ones).
Thanks again and good luck with WM2003SE!
Taz
u knwo wat i think of WM2005 ? C&CK @LL !! $UCK3D UP ROM EVER BY MICRO**** A$#Ho|3$ !! the reason why i say this is because....wen the xdaII is just lying off and i wanna make a call i hit green button to dial a number it shows me the last recd number always...where as wm2003se shows the last dialed number so if i wanna try a number again that i called last i have to dial it again if engage i have to manually dial the number again.....and again......and again......becaz if i hit green ans button twice ....on first it will open dial pad....on second it will start dialing the last recd number.....where as wm2003se dials the last dialed number.....and this **** wm2005 does not show me my sim contacts in PHOTO CONTACTS where wm2003se does....SIM TOOL kit does not allow me to edit old saved numbers theres no MSN MSNGR if u just restart the xdaII all last work that you have done will be lost E.G if youve created a gprs connection and u hit restart gprs connection wont be there wen u come back and many more......and many SUCKED UP errors like this...n yeah forgot......majorly.....the c0*k3d up A$#Ho|3 didnt let me connect to active sync for two days and when i just put the xdaII today for charging all of a sudden it got connected....and now again its not connecting says usb driver has mailfunctioned.......****TY ROM EVA IN THE HISTORY OF MICRO****
theyre A$#Ho|3$ just to try their ****ty product they leak it out and then put all websites on ban against hosting their product information and ****ttt and then they visit this forum to check our comments....as far as ma comments.....
YOU SUCK MICROSOFT and your operating systems too whether desktop computers or pda roms......YOUR'LL JUST SUCK BIG TIME !!
if your,ll wanna know on how to create operating systems ask apple guys....or linux guys....they might help you for free ........because they also think your,ll are LOOOSERS charging others for ur **** bricks !!
ZILLIONZ OF THANKS TO DCS FOR PROVIDING US WITH WM2003SE MYSTERYMAN ( THANKS TO MYSTERYMAN ONLY IF MYSTERYMAN IS NOT FROM MICROSOFT, WHICH I THINK IS NEGATIVE AND HE IS FROM MICROSOFT) ANYWAYS THANKS TO MAMAICH FOR PROVIDING SUCH A WONDERFUL RADIO ROM.....AND ALL THE OTHER GURUS WHO HAVE WORKED ON WM2003SE TO MAKE IT SUCH A WONDERFUL ROM FOR XDAII.....
Apart from the fact that I think you could express yourself in a more decent way, I would like to point you at the following:
WM2005 (just like WM2003SE for Himalaya) has not been released by Microsoft (yet). You might expect that it will be released for some devices, but I cannot imagine that it will going to be there for Himalaya: How much I dislike the idea, the Himalaya is an end-of-life product for most operators (I think Dopod and Krome are the only operators currently actively supporting the Himalaya).
In the mean time we will have to cope with best-effort results from ie. the XDA-developers community for new ROMs.
Personally I think this WM2005 ROM that has popped up is a Beta ROM for some other device, that has been been modified by someone (not being Microsoft). If you see it from that point WM2005 on Himalaya is quite a good job. But not really useable . . . .
You could alway vote with your money - and not buy another microsoft based product, if you feel that strongly about it :!:
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Apart from the fact that I think you could express yourself in a more decent way, I would like to point you at the following:
WM2005 (just like WM2003SE for Himalaya) has not been released by Microsoft (yet). You might expect that it will be released for some devices, but I cannot imagine that it will going to be there for Himalaya: How much I dislike the idea, the Himalaya is an end-of-life product for most operators (I think Dopod and Krome are the only operators currently actively supporting the Himalaya).
In the mean time we will have to cope with best-effort results from ie. the XDA-developers community for new ROMs.
Personally I think this WM2005 ROM that has popped up is a Beta ROM for some other device, that has been been modified by someone (not being Microsoft). If you see it from that point WM2005 on Himalaya is quite a good job. But not really useable . . . .
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i think i did appreciate the efforts of evryone who have worked on the microsoft roms before and are working over it now.......
ZILLIONZ OF THANKS TO DCS FOR PROVIDING US WITH WM2003SE MYSTERYMAN ( THANKS TO MYSTERYMAN ONLY IF MYSTERYMAN IS NOT FROM MICROSOFT, WHICH I THINK IS NEGATIVE AND HE IS FROM MICROSOFT) ANYWAYS THANKS TO MAMAICH FOR PROVIDING SUCH A WONDERFUL RADIO ROM.....AND ALL THE OTHER GURUS WHO HAVE WORKED ON WM2003SE TO MAKE IT SUCH A WONDERFUL ROM FOR XDA II.....
shanevanj said:
You could alway vote with your money - and not buy another microsoft based product, if you feel that strongly about it :!:
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i always do vote with my money thats why i dont buy the microsoft products i get them almost free ...... guess for how much do i buy any microsoft product.... only 50 UNITED STATES CENTS !!
any operating system...any software by microsoft....i get to check it for free even the xdaII roms....thts the value of microsoft....
Despite that you shouldn't feed trolls, I can't help myself.
The answer is obvious, zairy..
If you don't like MS Products (and you certainly don't pay for them, as you so proudly boast), don't complain about them. Because, if you don't like them, Don't use them.
All the problems you moan about are beta issues, appearing on a pre-beta version of magneto not meant for public use on a device that isn't specced for Windows mobile 2005 (Tiny Flash storage, for example).
It's very odd that you complain about how terrible any and all of the Microsoft operating systems are, yet you use Windows and Windows Mobile daily.
Then in the very next breath you praise others for their "WONDERFUL ROMS", when these very ROMs are essentially from Microsoft, with some drivers and a few bits and other bobs added on..
Do move on and get yourself a different phone.
In fact, get yourself a nice little phone with only basic features, as you may just hurt yourself while using anything more advanced. Use the money that you save on downgrading and get yourself a nice spelling tutor.
Once you've finished with it, use something called a dictionary and look up the words "Paradoxical" and "Attitude". Once you know what they mean, you should understand how the former applies to your childish rant, and that you should take the latter and get a new one.
does it look like that I care about what you said ??? :? :?: