Bluetooth Shutting Off in WM2005 - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development

I have a weird Bluetooth problem. It only happens with WM2005 and my Parrot car kit. I love WM2005 because of the correctly implemented handfree profile which makes the car kit and my Jabra headset much more useful. However, for some reason, my bluetooth shuts off from time to time in the device. I notice it when I get in the car and it does not connect. I have to turn the device on, go to the bluetooth manager and turn the radio back on, however, I never turned it off. It happens almost every time I cycle through exiting and reentering the car. It does not turn off in the car while the car kit is active. It does not loose its bonding, it only turns the radio off.
This does not happen with my Jabra headset. I used it on vacation for a week with no such problems. Any ideas what could be happening? At first I thought it was simply a hardware problem with my device, but I swapped it out at work for another brand new device with the same results.
I'm stumped. Any thoughts?
PanaBax

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My Dream Pocket Pocket PC Phone Edition Setup

I currently have an XDA and want to upgrade to something but I want to get a device that can do everything I want it to. I am going to list a description of what I want and specific questions I have for you guys about how I can achieve each:
The Phone
It should have bluetooth, wifi, sd slot, integrated or detachable (but usable) keyboard would be nice. The speakerphone should work and should be able to get loud. The phone should sound good; people should not say to me "what's up with your phone?"
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
Car Kit
I would like to be able to get into the car, "dock" the PDA and have it charge and connect to my GPS (Tom Tom of course, it's the best right?). I do not want to have to manually connect the cable to the bottom of the PDA; I want a cradle type connection. I would like hands free cell phone access through this same connection. This same connection would also connect the PDA's audio output to my stereo via an FM transmitter or possibly a direct connection. I would also like a 2nd touch screen display (either wired or bluetooth) that could be mounted up on the dash to make GPS easier to view and use.
1) Are there any PPC PE car kits with a cradle like I am describing?
2) Do any of these have the ability to connect to a Tom Tom GPS receiver through that same base? I just need to break out a serial connection right?
3) If the answer to #2 is no, can I just take the car kit apart and connect some wires to my Tom Tom GPS receiver? Are there just TX, RX, and GND connections that I can just wire up?
4) If there is not an FM transmitter, are there audio connections that I can break out and wire up myself to do that too? Maybe just wire the hands free speaker to the FM transmitter?
5) Are there any external VGA screens for pocket PCs? I know WM2003SE supports VGA now but do they exist and are they touch screen?
Bluetooth Headset
I would like a headset that I can wear all day without looking like a major dork. I think it is impractical to have a headset in your pocket when the phone starts ringing. There is no way you can get that thing out and on your ear in time. Is there anything that I can just wear around my neck that could pickup me talking without wearing anything on my ear? I would also like this device to turn itself on as soon as it hears any audio output from the Pocket PC device, especially when the phone is ringing. I would like it to turn on quick enough that I can actually hear the audio, not 2 seconds later. I would also like it to turn itself off when I hang up. It should also have a button that can initiate Microsoft Voice Command. Ideally I would use the bluetooth headset as my phone. I would answer calls, hang up calls and initiate voice dial all with the headset. I would only pickup the PDA when I wanted to use it as a PDA. I would never again hold that screen up to my ear! I would also like this headset to be able to pair with my pc so I can use my VoIP softphone on the pc to make phone calls.
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
2) If the answer to #1 is no, has anyone considered getting a hearing aid just for this purpose and getting a loop set? I just don't want to be carrying a headset in my pocket all day then having to fumble around for it when the phone is ringing. Maybe this isn’t as big of a problem as I suspect.
3) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
5) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can initiate Microsoft Voice Command with?
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
7) Has anyone paired any bluetooth headset to their computer to make phone calls via VoIP?
Synchronizing
I will be synchronizing with my exchange server with up to date notifications enabled. So WM2003 will be required. When I am at my desk I would like for the Pocket PC to stay on my belt, but detect that I am in the office and start doing desktop sync via bluetooth (or wifi). The device should be able to pair with the headset and the desktop computer at the same time.
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
mate, some asnwers to your questions...others may have other opinions or ideas...
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
ANS - i use the xda2; though the loudspeaker isn't as good but generally i'm satisfied with it. but i never put the phone to my ear since i use a bluetooth headset (more comments on that one below)
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
ANS: which is probably one thing why i think i won't be getting the mda3...but i have used a foldable keyboard or used my laptop (with a 3rd party software) to use the keyboard and mouse to control the xda2
Bluetooth
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
ANS: i used to have the jabra but found it to be weird having to wear it on my ear all the time. plus if i wear it for long periods, i develop a "cramp" on my ear...and had some issues with bonding when activesync was being done. i NOW use the O2 headset; see attached pic. i like it because it's very discreet; it just clips on my collar / shirt and i let the headphone dangle inside my shirt pocket. or i can holster it on the clip-mike. the headset can receive or end calls, so when i'm driving i don't have to hold my pda. don't have any issues with it; no bonding issues, reception is great, mike is sensitive, etc.
23) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
ANS - yes, when the phone rings, it's immediately transferred to the headset and all i have to do is switch it on to receive the call (for my o2 the switch is on the headphone), or click it twice to reject the call.
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
ANS - i think most of them do...
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
ANs - love my O2 headset and my bt is on 24 hours a day but when my headset is charging then i have to take the xda to my ear
Syncing
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
ANS - yes, you're talking about the bluetooth-activesync method. i'm using it via my diffusi bt dongle; works great and no need for cables. the only limitation i see is possibly the range since the xda and the laptop can't be separated for more than 30 or so meters. but syncing is very easy and convenient via bt...oh and the great thing about bt-activesync is that you can turn off the screen of your pda and still the laptop is synced. saves you on battery time...
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
ANS: not sure here but my xda is paired with my headset, my laptop and my tomtom...oh and my wife's ericsson...
hope that helps.
2 pence
robson
zlester said:
I currently have an XDA and want to upgrade to something but I want to get a device that can do everything I want it to. I am going to list a description of what I want and specific questions I have for you guys about how I can achieve each:
The Phone
It should have bluetooth, wifi, sd slot, integrated or detachable (but usable) keyboard would be nice. The speakerphone should work and should be able to get loud. The phone should sound good; people should not say to me "what's up with your phone?"
1) I am currently playing with an HP 6315 but the phone sounds like crap, especially if you turn up the volume all the way on the speaker phone. Do other devices sound good as a phone?
2) The keyboard on the 6315 is also pretty useless. The buttons are just too small. Has anyone used a detachable or bluetooth keyboard with usably large buttons that works well?
Car Kit
I would like to be able to get into the car, "dock" the PDA and have it charge and connect to my GPS (Tom Tom of course, it's the best right?). I do not want to have to manually connect the cable to the bottom of the PDA; I want a cradle type connection. I would like hands free cell phone access through this same connection. This same connection would also connect the PDA's audio output to my stereo via an FM transmitter or possibly a direct connection. I would also like a 2nd touch screen display (either wired or bluetooth) that could be mounted up on the dash to make GPS easier to view and use.
1) Are there any PPC PE car kits with a cradle like I am describing?
2) Do any of these have the ability to connect to a Tom Tom GPS receiver through that same base? I just need to break out a serial connection right?
3) If the answer to #2 is no, can I just take the car kit apart and connect some wires to my Tom Tom GPS receiver? Are there just TX, RX, and GND connections that I can just wire up?
4) If there is not an FM transmitter, are there audio connections that I can break out and wire up myself to do that too? Maybe just wire the hands free speaker to the FM transmitter?
5) Are there any external VGA screens for pocket PCs? I know WM2003SE supports VGA now but do they exist and are they touch screen?
Bluetooth Headset
I would like a headset that I can wear all day without looking like a major dork. I think it is impractical to have a headset in your pocket when the phone starts ringing. There is no way you can get that thing out and on your ear in time. Is there anything that I can just wear around my neck that could pickup me talking without wearing anything on my ear? I would also like this device to turn itself on as soon as it hears any audio output from the Pocket PC device, especially when the phone is ringing. I would like it to turn on quick enough that I can actually hear the audio, not 2 seconds later. I would also like it to turn itself off when I hang up. It should also have a button that can initiate Microsoft Voice Command. Ideally I would use the bluetooth headset as my phone. I would answer calls, hang up calls and initiate voice dial all with the headset. I would only pickup the PDA when I wanted to use it as a PDA. I would never again hold that screen up to my ear! I would also like this headset to be able to pair with my pc so I can use my VoIP softphone on the pc to make phone calls.
1) So is there a headset that you don't have to put in your ear?
2) If the answer to #1 is no, has anyone considered getting a hearing aid just for this purpose and getting a loop set? I just don't want to be carrying a headset in my pocket all day then having to fumble around for it when the phone is ringing. Maybe this isn’t as big of a problem as I suspect.
3) I have never used a bluetooth headset so I don't know much about them. Do bluetooth headsets turn themselves on automatically when the phone rings?
4) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can answer and hang-up the phone with?
5) Is there a bluetooth headset that I can initiate Microsoft Voice Command with?
6) Even if my "over the ear" phobia can't be resolved, is there anyone who never has to put the screen up to their ear because their bluetooth headset works so well?
7) Has anyone paired any bluetooth headset to their computer to make phone calls via VoIP?
Synchronizing
I will be synchronizing with my exchange server with up to date notifications enabled. So WM2003 will be required. When I am at my desk I would like for the Pocket PC to stay on my belt, but detect that I am in the office and start doing desktop sync via bluetooth (or wifi). The device should be able to pair with the headset and the desktop computer at the same time.
1) Is this desktop bluetooth sync thing I am describing possible?
2) Can a device pair with multiple devices at the same time? How many can it pair with?
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Interesting reading, you certainly have put some decent thought into this. Let me share my experience with a bluetooth headset:
I have the Jabra BT200. It is a very comfortable unit, more comfortable than anything I have tried out there. I am using it with my iMate PPCPE and it works pretty well. 1 out of 20 times when the phone rings, the call for some reason won't get transferred to the BT headset. -But I can live with that. The sound quality is not as good as a regular wired earpiece. Using the BT headset will put an additional and noticeable strain on your phones battery resulting in less battery life before you need to recharge. I can answer and end calls from the Jabra BT headset but it does not work with MS Voice Command (Which I would discourage use of for other reasons: It's Not stable on the iMate, makes it hang needing hard reset) meaning you can't press a button on the headset and speak to the phone through the headset. The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily.
mate,
regarding:
"The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily."
i guess this depends on a mate's usage; but are you sure about the 1-day battery life? like i mentioned i used to have a jabra (bt200) and the standby would be around 3-4 days...that's why the bt250 came out which boasts a standby power of around 8-10 days. just curious...
oh and i didn't like fiddling around in my pocket when the phone rang...specially with the ear gel/bud sometimes rotating...or even coming off when i did get it out of my pocket.... that's why i changed headsets.
Robson said:
mate,
regarding:
"The battery life of the Jabra is about 1 hour of talk time or abuot 1 day of standby with a couple of brief conversations during the day. The only complaint about he Jabra BT200 pertains to how I choose to use it: I usually don't waer it unless I'm on a call. When the phone rings, it sometimes takes too long to get the headset out of my pocket and properly on / in my ear. The little gel-like thing that goes in the ear rotates too easily."
i guess this depends on a mate's usage; but are you sure about the 1-day battery life? like i mentioned i used to have a jabra (bt200) and the standby would be around 3-4 days...that's why the bt250 came out which boasts a standby power of around 8-10 days. just curious...
oh and i didn't like fiddling around in my pocket when the phone rang...specially with the ear gel/bud sometimes rotating...or even coming off when i did get it out of my pocket.... that's why i changed headsets.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure about the 1 day usage. I usually get right around 1 days worth of standby, talk w. BT headset, checking email and playing a couple of games. -But that's fine for me. I have never found myself in a situation where I couldn't charge my iMate overnight so 1 full day of somewhat serious use is just fine for me.

X10 Faults So Far:-

These are the faults I have had so far with handsets.
All these handsets were new, on RBA24.
1st) clicking on calls, annoying.
2nd) Would not work on gprs, power off and on, clock grossly out, intermittant loss of network
3rd) at first, I thought this was a pukka handset as it worked bar bluetooth. Bluetooth would connect with Nokia car kit, then disconnect. Power off bluetooth and on again, and bluetooth would not start up. Work round for this was to shut down handset, power up, enable lights on while charging, phone would connect to car kit and work, USB socket dies and wont charge.
4th) Bluetooth works no problem at all. Only difference is came from vodafone with 24 installed, didnt use update service like other 3!
bizarre or what!!

[Q] Loosing Bluetooth pairing

After the pairing procedure for the Galaxy SII to the Vehicle (uconnect), it works fine. Turning off the phone and back on, still remains paired. However, if we were to turn off the bluetooth and GPS for battery life on the phone and then turn it back on when I want to pair, the phone looses the memory of the pairing and we need to re-pair it. This wouldn't be a huge deal except that uconnect make you delete the pairing phone and resync it, a real pain in the @$$. Did you experience this and am I missing something that can be done in the phone setting to not loose the pairing when bluetooth is turn off/on on the phone.
Thanks
mcshame said:
After the pairing procedure for the Galaxy SII to the Vehicle (uconnect), it works fine. Turning off the phone and back on, still remains paired. However, if we were to turn off the bluetooth and GPS for battery life on the phone and then turn it back on when I want to pair, the phone looses the memory of the pairing and we need to re-pair it. This wouldn't be a huge deal except that uconnect make you delete the pairing phone and resync it, a real pain in the @$$. Did you experience this and am I missing something that can be done in the phone setting to not loose the pairing when bluetooth is turn off/on on the phone.
Thanks
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Never had a problem with mine losing pairing. Has another device been able to hold a pairing to it in the past?
What's a "uconnect"? It doesn't rely on remote power being hooked up correctly by any chance does it?
knightnz said:
Never had a problem with mine losing pairing. Has another device been able to hold a pairing to it in the past?
What's a "uconnect"? It doesn't rely on remote power being hooked up correctly by any chance does it?
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Sorry about that. Uconnect is the Bluetooth service installed on Dodge vehicles in North America.
The Uconnect holds 2 phones, in my case a Blackberry and the GSII. If I was to turn off Bluetooth on the blackberry and then later reactivate it, the blackberry does not forget the pairing and they pair with no problem. However, if I was to turn off the Bluetooth on the GSII, it seems to forget and I need to start the whole pairing process all over again.
EDIT: lol, I'm a product of French Canadian bilingualism, I can't spell for crap
I keep my BT on full time, but just out of curiosity i followed your steps and no such issue on my Nissan factory radio bluetooth. Probably some weird compatibility issue.

[Q] Let's talk Bluetooth problems

Hey everyone,
Has anyone noticed bluetooth issues? I've pointed them out in other threads, but they seem to be glossed over. I hate to seem like a noob by creating new threads, but I fear that the issue is being looked over by most people. I've read a few reports of people having issues with their phones connecting to their cars or headsets automatically. Has anyone else faced these issues?
I specifically cannot get my BT headset to connect unless I unpair and repair it everytime I want to use it. Sometimes even during a phone call the headset will drop connection and wont reconnect unless i turn it off and on a few times. For reference, I've tried multiple BT headsets and they all behave the same way. These headset's also work just fine with my Galaxy S2, just not with my S3 (international on XLE8)
No problems with bluetooth here and I use it a lot (HS3000, Logitech Boombox, PS3 and Wii controllers too).
No issues here. Phone sometimes doesn't pair automatically with the BT kit in my work car, but I've had that issue with my S1 and S2 in the same car so I'd say it's a problem with the headunit.
Works perfectly with the Sony headunit in my own car, and connects to my mate's fine.
ok, what firmware rev are you guys running? im going nuts not being able to use bluetooth here!!
somewhat related.
i often leave my sgs3 connected to my laptop via usb when i fall asleep. at morning, battery's charged 100% obviously and phone isn't hot.
last time around, i was listening to music via hm3700 bluetooth headset. then later turned off the bluetooth headset. i forgot to turn off the bluetooth on sgs3 and again fell asleep while it's still connected via usb to laptop.
when i woke up at morning as usual battery's charged 100% but the sgs3 was hot, not so hot but isn't anywhere the normal hot we're accustomed to.
connects automatically to my car's BT built-in system. Only needed to pair once.
Works very well with my Sennheiser PXC 310 BT.
If I switch on the headphones the phone automatically connects to it.
can everyone please detail their firmware/kernel they are using?
i am on XXALE8, with the stock kernel
I have problems on XXLE8 as well connect it to my car head unit and it acrually crashes the headunit after 5 mins being connected . After the heaf unit crashes 3 times it requires a pin code. Iphone 4, 4s and gs2 connect no issues.
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bean12147 said:
I have problems on XXLE8 as well connect it to my car head unit and it acrually crashes the headunit after 5 mins being connected . After the heaf unit crashes 3 times it requires a pin code. Iphone 4, 4s and gs2 connect no issues.
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thanks for your input, i upgraded to XALF5 and still having the same issues. this is frustrating!!!!
Oddly - my phone will automatically connect to my cars in-built BT system, but it won't auto connect to my Jawbone Era without switching BT of and back on....
I also have problems, with my build-in bt in my car. Have XXBLH3. Connect fine, but drop the connection 2-3min after. My SGSII have no problems
No Ringtone through Bluetooth
Okay here is my problem……I want my custom ringtones i have set for contact to play in my Bluetooth headset when a receive a call, not that dumb ring. That way I will know if I want to take the call or not because I can tell by the ringtone who is calling. Why would Samsung disable this feature. my iPhone 4s plays the ringtone I have setup when I get a call. Is there anyway to do this. I ride a motorcycle and I have a device called a Chatterbox that let’s me connect via Bluetooth to my phone so I can hear my music and talk and make calls while I am riding. On my iPhone 4s my music would pause my custom ringtone would play and I could decide it I wanted to take the call or send it to voicemail, then my music would start right back up from where it left off. Right now my Galaxy i717 and my Galaxy i747 (Note and S III) just play this annoying ring and I can’t tell who it is! Any have a fix or work around for this.
Hmmm, the sound on my cars bluetooth gets distorted and only a reconnect will fix, and more worringly sometimes the S3 will not wake up after disconnecting from my car and only a hard reset will solve it.
My S2 did pretty much the same thing.

Bluetooth pairing and reconnect issues

I received my Moto E last week and I've been using it with my Jaybird Freedom bluetooth headset. Unfortunately, I'm having a terrible time with pairing and reconnecting the headset to the device.
When I get the headset paired, it works fine until I turn it off. Once I turn it off, the phone does not notice the device or attempt to reconnect. If I explicitly attempt to reconnect it will fail almost every time. I can unpair the device, in which case it usually takes a few attempts to get it re-paired again. I've talked with Jaybird and Motorola support and they are pointing at each other. It seems like it may be some kind of compatibility issue, but I have no idea if there is any way to resolve it. I should add that the headset gets along just fine with my HTC One.
I have the device rooted and can go look in the logs if that helps anyone to help me troubleshoot/fix this issue.
Any help appreciated.
Craig

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