I have an xda1, wallaby, whatever you want to call it and I need it to work on the US network. My query is does it at the moment and if not is there anything I can do to get it to work there. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
PW10A == 900/1800 == eu xda1
PW10B == 900/1900 == us xda1
if yours is a PW10A then you cant unless you can find some GSM which use 900 in US
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Hi, There
Can I update ROM so my siemens sx56 can be used in Asia, which have band 1800? Can anybody tell me what should I do so I can use that pc phone in Asia.
Thanks
No you can't. PW10B are 900/1900 only.
They do have 900 in Asia, more than 1800, so you should be OK.
Not a problem...but interesting. I just noticed that the model number on my T-Mobile reports it as a PW10A1 instead of PW1OB1. So a question:
Does it show this number by first querying the hardware or is this info stored somewhere in the ROM?
Cheers.
It is stored in the ROM. The A or B refers to different modem part (to do 1800 or 1900), and the 1 or 2 that follows it refers to slightly different plastic housing.
This is interesting. the first error message I received when trying to do SE Rom update was that my device was PW10B1, while the upgrade was trying to make my unit PW10A1. Mine is a USA XDA.
This eventually (and mysteriously) worked itself out.
However in light of your reply XDA developer, can you tell me if this unit operates as a triband unit? I ran bandswitch and 1800 came up as an allowable choice.
Also, do I need to change bands if I travel overseas or is this automatic?
Users of the PW10B model (even though it thinks it's called PW10A after the Special Edition ROM upgrade) must switch manually between 900 and 1900. Users of PW10A can leave it at 900/1800 and switch automatically.
Functionality of 900/1800 phones (PW10A) in the 1900 band has been reported, but is believed to be erratic at best.
Thanks XDA
If users of the PW10B model have to switch from 900 to 1900 manually,
if we also manually switch to the 900/1800 setting, will we get functionality on an 1800 mhz network? (such as some of Asia)
Joe_PDA said:
if we also manually switch to the 900/1800 setting, will we get functionality on an 1800 mhz network? (such as some of Asia)
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Maybe. Possibly only some of the time, if you're lucky, and very likely with lousy coverage, since your filters are tuned for 1900 MHz.
Switch PW10A to B
Peter Poelman said:
Users of the PW10B model (even though it thinks it's called PW10A after the Special Edition ROM upgrade) must switch manually between 900 and 1900. Users of PW10A can leave it at 900/1800 and switch automatically.
Functionality of 900/1800 phones (PW10A) in the 1900 band has been reported, but is believed to be erratic at best.
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Peter, I unlocked my TMO XDA 1 to sell it using XDA-Developers-V21 (had to use NK.nb1 & SD card bootloader method). I'm trying to put my previous version back on and it thinks the phone is PW10A and won't do the upgrade. You mentioned PW10B users must manually switch between 900 and 1900. How do I set my phone identity back to Model #PW10B so I can put my previous ROM4.01.00 on?
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How do I set my phone identity back to Model #PW10B so I can put my previous ROM4.01.00 on?
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You need to do it the other way around: adapt the ROM image so that Programme A thinks it is right for your phone. For this you need our tool adaptROM.
I don’t know how to find out what band my smartphone uses. It’s T-Mobile, so it should sell in US, where GSM band’s 1900. But my T-mobile was in box, designed especially for Russia. The letters are in Russian, a GSM band indicated on the box in big black font is 900\1800.
But device information tab in WM 2003 displays "Hardware Version: PW 10B1" (as far as I understand that means 1900 band). In spite of this on the back of my device is a sticker with PW10A2 sign. Where's the truth?
Maybe my device uses 1800 frequency?
But anyway in the band selection tab there's only 2 bands 800 and 1900 (
If my device supports 1800 band, how can I activate it?
The seller’s support tells T-mobile MDA supports 1800… But they can’t explain how to enable it.
I don't know whether connected my second problem with previous. I think it is.
Sometimes my device doesn't find network after it lost it. Example: after leaving an underground subway station. To find a network I have to turn the phone off and then to turn it on.
My radio version is T310. If this problem doesn't connected with the first, maybe I just should change a radio version to a newer one?
The sticker tells the truth normally. Are you going in to bootloader to choose your band?
How can I choose GSM band through boot loader?
Enter bootloader by holding power button while pushing stylus in reset hole, when bootloader appears push the button below antenna, you will then have all gsm options, choose 900/1800.
You may be S O L!!!
You better hope your XDA is not a 900/1800 MHz one otherwise you're going to be SOL unless you plan on living overseas because here in North America, the wireless carriers like AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless LLC and T Mobile USA use EDGE/GSM/GPRS on the 850 and/or 1900 MHz GSM aka Next Generation network. 900/1800 MHz GSM is used overseas and is considered the international GSM bandwidths. Cheers!
You may be S O L!!!
You better hope your XDA is not a 900/1800 MHz one otherwise you're going to be SOL unless you plan on living overseas because here in North America, the wireless carriers like AT&T Wireless, Cingular Wireless LLC and T Mobile USA use EDGE/GSM/GPRS on the 850 and/or 1900 MHz GSM aka Next Generation network. 900/1800 MHz GSM is used overseas and is considered the international GSM bandwidths. Cheers!
Hi,
i guess that you saw this question somewhere but still there is no solution for it.
in israel there is two gsm providers, they are both work at 900/1800.
i have sx56 phone that is 900/1800.
the problem is that i can only find one of them in my sx56 and i dont understeand why,
i tried many radio stack versions and different roms.
what else could it be?
maybe a radio stack that i didnt try?
please help.
thanks
Have you tried changing the band to 900/1800 in the bootloader?
yes,
but the thing is that both of them are 900/1800 and i can only find one
Can you explain in more detail what your problem is, if you want 900/1800 and you have 900/1800 what is the problem?
i can connect only to one 900/1800 network.
there is another one than i cannot find when i click (find network)
Have you tried inserting a sim from this other provider in your xda?
yes i tried it.
also have you tried to use the sim in a normal phone ?
You have been misinformed
You propably have figured it out but still:
In Israel there are two GSM providers
Orange which band is 900
Cellcom which band is 1800
You listed your device as a B type which is 900/1900
Hence you can only connect to Orange
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
lyka said:
I would like to know how many differences there are between this two kind of dual band.
i've bought a T-mobile from USA (i'm still waiting for it so i don't have it now) and i saw that it is a 900/1900. I'm in italy, so i would like to know if i'll use only 900 or 1900 too (i think in italy 1800 is used).
i think i'll have to unlock it, the vendor told me it is a pocket pc 2003, do XDAunlock, work on it?
(i'm sorry for the last off topic question...i post here to not make too many post around the forum)
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I'm sorry to tell you since your network works on 1800 Mhz your new T-mobile PW10B1 wont work on this frequency it's made for 900/1900 Mhz if you unlocked it or not it's not gona work, you need the PW10A1 devices they work on 900/1800 Mhz.
but there are cellphone companies in eu who use 900 maybe there are some in your country
if not well thats too bad
oh....no..... :shock:
is there anithing i can do? radio update??? something like this!
Your special edition ROM can help me?
from what i've been able to understand about the 900/1900 then it's a hardware limit the GSM part of the xda1 will have to be physically removed which would most likely be way more expensive then getting a new device
of cause i could be wrong
The XDA1 is available in two flavours (from what I read):
USA: 900/1900 bands
EU: 900/1800 bands
Since both flavours support the 900 band, you should be able to use it in Europ on one of the 'old' networks.
In Holland both KPN and Vodafone have nationwide coverage on 900MHz.
Since TIM is and 'old' company too (Telecom Italia isnt it?) I guess theyre on 900 too. To be sure: check the websites of the Italian mobile operators. Be aware that reception in some areas might be less than if you could use both 900 and 1800 bands as more and more operators are extending their networks on 1800 only (because of lack of free 900 band frequencies). I noticed this a few years back in France where in rural areas there was no coverage with a 900 phone and full reception with a 900/1800 phone (same network).
Reading the forum i've read that is possible to chose band 900/1800 and 900/1900 by bootloader and pressing calendar...can this be true for some model?
p.s. Of course TIM uses 900...i wonder if it will ever use 1900 one day
i think UTMS or some other replacement will take over before us and eu start to use the std's of eachother
just another question, i found information about special edition rom. It says that with bandswitch.exe some devices may work with other "not natural" band. So i'll try when my XDA will be shipped.
TIM wil NEVER use 1900, at least not in Europe. The 1900 band is not available for telecoms in Europe (just like the 1800 band is not available in USA)
I've got T-Mobile from US working in Russia on 800/1800 through ROM upgrade. What it did - it removed SIM Lock and turned the device into 3-band. Works perfect.
Rgds,
Cimmerian
www.briantracy.ru
i haver never heard about anybody being able to make a dualband into a triband using just software the filters and mixers in the hardware part og the gsm are different
I have never heard about that either. As far as I know frequencies are hardware based. Otherwise we could flash our XDA's to anything we wanted.
I have researched this for weeks and weeks since I need my XDA I to work on the 850Mhz network in the US quite badly.
Please post exactly how you did it
1800/1900
I got the same problem you do but reverse , I'm in the U.S and bought the phone from Europe ( qtek 1010 ) my phone will not work in the U.S because the network here is 1900 and in europe 1800. If you want I can trade with you if you have the same phone. I got all the package in a box.
My email is [email protected]
U can reach me on this email if you wish to exchange.
Lyka
There are 3 major networks in Italy that have 900 mhz networks.
They are:
Telecom Italia Mobile (TIM)
GSM 900/1800
Vodafone Omnitel N.V.
GSM 900/1800
Wind Telecomunicazioni SpA
GSM 900/1800
If you are within any of their networks you should have service with your
current Wallaby. (XDAI). You should be able to insert your sim card and go.
Some ROMS auto select the available network, others do not. There is also a program that you can cook into a ROM that give you a software selctable band switch.
I hope this helps?
Joe
Just to clarify my last post:
It has been discussed on this forum, for a few years, that you cannot
change a 900/1900 phone to 900/1800 using software.
However since your phone does operate on 900 mhz and there are
900 mhz throughout Italy, including Sardinia, you should have no problem using your current phone. In fact I have used my USA 900/1900) XDAI in Italy.
Let us know how you make out.
Joe
900/1900 T-Mobile -- Swap for an 900/1800 XDA ?
Straight swap...I made a mistake and bought a T-Mobile from the US thinking it would work in NZ....it won't and everyone on the forums agrees....so only option is to replace with a European one...
If anyone is interested, post a reply and we can set something up.
Cheers, Hamish
BandSwitching
I live in Jamaica, we have to GSM networks, 850/1900 & 900/1800 my XDA1 works well on both networks... although signal strength from the 900/1800 is stronger it makes no big difference... I believe the shorter band is essential in buildings etc. so wait till you get the phone and give it a try.
I tried the Band Switching application in the Special Edition ROM, it made no real difference.
Slightly off topic can someone point me to an explanation of UMTS???