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I downloaded the upgrade from O2 and run it on my QTEK 2020. The process finished without any errors but I am surprised/dissapointed that:
-this upgrade IS NOT the one announced by Microsoft recently i.e. WM2003 second edition
-the applications that are listed in the pdf instructions have not been installed on my QTEK
-the BT remains the same
Am I missing something or was expecting too much from this update?
Well this upgrade is just bug fixes and no new features. The Windows Mobile 2003 Special Edition (SE) is just out of the door. I just with testing and all we would be luck to get this towards the end of second quarter or the third q. Even then I am not sure if it is going to be free or even offered as an paid upgrade.
Regards,
Kueh.
What about the applications that are listed in the pdf, I think something is a miss as I haven't even got the o2 active interface after the upgrade...nor any of the new apps.
check if the ext-rom is proberly installed...
you can even run this manually.
how do I check that it is properly installed?
how do I got about reinstalling it? is it just a case of opening the installer in winzip and then rerunning one of the files?
Enable the hidden extended rom by using the attached cab. Reset it. Use file explorer to view the extended rom in the root directory. if your extended rom has been installed correctly, you should be able to find o2ActiveUIEngl.CAB. run it to get your active O2.
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When my XDAII rebooted after upgrade there was no O2Active and no links to it - I just did another hard reset and it installed itself correctly the second time around.
extened rom
Thanks all, i used the ext rom viewer and managed to install the missing new applications. i might do a hard reset anyway just to be sure.
thanks again.
I have installed the T-mobile 1.72 Beta ROM update on my O2 XDA. Everything has installed just fine and it appears to be working great. The addition of the Fax module is really welcome although a little buggy has allowed me to send a number of faxes.
The BT stack now gives me an extra option on my Widcom BT software on my desktop pc. It seems much more stable than the O2 stack.
My only problem is that all my MMS, SMS, GPRS and WAP settings are for T-Mobile UK and not O2 Ireland. I have tried to enter them manually with little success.
After reading through some of the other threads would it be possible to take the relevant cab files from an O2 1.60 (latest ROM) Extended ROM and copy them onto my PDA and then run them to install the settings? I also miss the O2 Active screen and would like to install that as well. If this is possible could and please tell me that it is!!!! Would someone be kind enough to send me the relevant Cab files?
Many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
Paul
I think its posted on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8515
On page 2. There is a modified extendend rom.
Thanks for the mail
I have downloaded the extended ROM that you mentioned but it seems to just contain the T-Mobile stuff. I would like a copy of the O2 Extended ROM if possible and just install the O2 settings and Active.
Thanks
Paul
If you have an old backup, you can replace that with the new one you have now. And then runt the desired CAB files (Camera, mms, andsoon) from the new 1.72 upgrade.
Here you go mate...
Attached is a ZIP file, containing a folder.
In it, are ALL the O2 files found in an O2 Extended ROM, as per 1.60.00 ROM Upgrade, O2 WWE.
I am not sure exactly which CAB is the settings file (can anyone tell me what the GPRS settings file CAB is called in an extended ROM), so you will have to find it yourself.
It also includes the O2 Active stuff.
Hope it helps.
Download it quick, becuase I'm not sure the legalities of posting it here, and also its a big file, so using up a lot of my space, so I wanna delete it soon.
Thanks
Thanks Shadamehr
I downloaded the ROM ran the Cabs and I now have O2 connection settings and O2 active. Thank you so much.
My next project is to copy the o2 files to the extended 1.72 ROM so that if I require a hard reset it will install the O2 stuff and the newer 1.72 files etc.
Out of interest the application for unhiding and unlocking the Extended ROM requires the sending of "arguments" how do you do this on Pocket PC. i am familiar with doing this on a desktop PC. Any help would again be appreciated.
Thanks to you all.
Paul
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Pastor said:
Thanks Shadamehr
I downloaded the ROM ran the Cabs and I now have O2 connection settings and O2 active. Thank you so much.
My next project is to copy the o2 files to the extended 1.72 ROM so that if I require a hard reset it will install the O2 stuff and the newer 1.72 files etc.
Out of interest the application for unhiding and unlocking the Extended ROM requires the sending of "arguments" how do you do this on Pocket PC. i am familiar with doing this on a desktop PC. Any help would again be appreciated.
Thanks to you all.
Paul
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Er, you've totally lost me mate.
For the Unlocker, all I do, is copy the cab file for it over to my XDA2, then use File Manager on the XDA2 to locate the file, and click to run.
This installs it.
Then, if you go into programs, there is a new folder, next to games, for the extRom tools.
Open that, and you can hide/unhide, and lock/unlock the extended ROM.
It sometimes requires a soft reboot.
When it is unlcoked and unhidden, you can simply delete all files in it, and copy the whole O2 folder contents into it that I posted.
Then, after a hard reset, it will install all the programs in the extended rom.
Not sure what all these 'argument' things are you mention mate, sorry.
Sorted!!!
Did not see the programme group had been using the application via the file explorer and it was asking for "arguments". Thanks for the help.
Paul
I would like to add the fonix voicedial application to my XDA2. I noted on the "my-xda.com" website that this application is supposed to be on the companion CD that comes with a XDA2.
Not mine!, purchased just 2 weeks ago.
My CD version is V1.0 sept 2003
Can anybody tell me if there is a later release that has it on please.
Can't see anywhere on the O2 websites where to download it.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Chris
You can dowmload AppsuiteXdaII.zip from here.
You can dowmload AppsuiteXdaII.zip from here
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Thanks I updated rom and installed the applications, works a treat.
Just got to re-install tomtom.
Thanks again
Chris
Two questions :
- Is it free ?
- Does it work on Qtec and T-Mobile MDA too ? (the app_suite_.exe i mean )
Yes its free,
I would assume it would work providing you are running the updated Rom.
I had to update to 1.72.00 WWE, before I could install the appsuite.
Good luck
Chris
That's weird, I'm running on 1.72.00WWE and it does not let me install...
Any ideas?
Rayan, did you try installing to a bare configuration, ie before restore?
It is not the OS version that counts (although it probably would have to be 1.72.00WWE) , but the extrom version (1.72.181 / 1.72.187). but i don't know which registry entries are important for this validation.
Doing a restore after upgrade does overwrite the registry (like cruisin implied).
Can anyone post the individual cabs inside this application suite?
I can have a look to make it more "ExtROM version independent"
(ie that it will also work with my 1.72.902 ROM)
I tried to create the myself from the appsuite.
Fonix cab seems to be faulty. Any experience with this?
Couldn't it be possible to just install the Fonix Voicedial on just any rom available?
That shouldn't be a problem is it?
edsub said:
Can anyone post the individual cabs inside this application suite?
I can have a look to make it more "ExtROM version independent"
(ie that it will also work with my 1.72.902 ROM)
I tried to create the myself from the appsuite.
Fonix cab seems to be faulty. Any experience with this?
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I am not able to install any of this software.... Please Edsub maybe you can do something...
I am more than happy to sort this out, BUT: I need to get hold of a correct Fonix cab file. The one in the posted app. suite is faulty and cannot be used.
ah, logging on helps.
Thanks superperry.
i will have a look at the cabs.
bollocks!
The Fonix cab you posted is faulty too.
The cab identifies as a ZIP cabinet, instead of a WinCE Cabinet.
Also WinCE Cab manager is not able to open it, just crashes. Same as with my copy of the Fonix cab.
The other two cabs are fine.
Just by looking at the TrueFax cab I bet the version checking is doen via a new setup.dll. This should be do-able. Plz have a little patience as I do have a real job to do too . . .
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bollocks!
The Fonix cab you posted is faulty too.
The cab identifies as a ZIP cabinet, instead of a WinCE Cabinet.
Also WinCE Cab manager is not able to open it, just crashes. Same as with my copy of the Fonix cab.
The other two cabs are fine.
Just by looking at the TrueFax cab I bet the version checking is doen via a new setup.dll. This should be do-able. Plz have a little patience as I do have a real job to do too . . .
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:twisted: I guess they gave us faulty file, huh! :!:
Don't worry edsub, we can wait. :wink:
This is the file downloaded directly from O2.
Thanks dcs, the file you posted is exactly the same as the one I extracted the cabs from . . .
Did ANYONE try to get the Fonix Voicedial to run on their Himalaya??
What happened?
Did the install on the Himalaya run?
Did the app itself run?
Any error messages?
This Fonix cab is something different from all the other cabs I know of.
BTW: dcs, did you get Fonix installed (you seem to have a new 1.72.187 rom version on O2)??
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BTW: dcs, did you get Fonix installed (you seem to have a new 1.72.187 rom version on O2)??
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Yes I did. It runs, but haven't done much with it yet.
mmm, I guess we have to conclude that O2 (or Fonix) have found themselves a new method of installing software on the Himalaya . . .
@dcs: Do you remember whether the install ran as silent as other (normal) installs on the Himalaya? Did you see the zip-manager get used for installing (I ask this because the Fonix cab shows up like a zip-type of cab, instead of like a WinCE cab)
New Voice Dialer++ (MS Voice Command 1.5 Is out)
1.5 is free to download for users of 1.0 & 1.1
go get it now :twisted:
Here is the link
so that no one will PM me to ask for it
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/voicecommand/updateversion.mspx
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Here is the link
so that no one will PM me to ask for it
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/voicecommand/updateversion.mspx
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Weird, just installed the update without having MSVC installed and it works.
iggy said:
darren_the said:
Here is the link
so that no one will PM me to ask for it
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/voicecommand/updateversion.mspx
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Weird, just installed the update without having MSVC installed and it works.
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I've been trying all day and cant get the darn thing to download I keep getting
Service Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request. Please try again later.
Any chance of sending me the file ?
Just tried it and it again and it worked. I would be happy to send it if needed, do you have an email that can handle 5.5mb attachments?
Yes please please mail it to [email protected]
Many Many thanks
I tried this on my XDA II with the 2.06 2003SE ROM and found a problem - could someone else let me know if they have the same problem...
After installing I reset my device. After the reset, I found that I couldn't select any of my other input panels other than the default Block/Letter recognisers or the built in keyboard. IntelliPad (Phone Pad) and MessageEase were in the list but when I selected them it just switched to the default keyboard.
Can anyone help?
I've found the same problem with Intellidialler but finally managed to get Calligrapher working and never drew the connection with voice command. On top of that, there was an error the first time I tried the 1.5 upgrade setup and now if I try setting up 1.5 again it states that "No previous version of Microsoft Voice COmmand US PPC 1.50 was not found on this machine. The setup cannot continue" (yes you read the double negative right it's not a typo) I've tried uninstalling 1.0 and 1.5 and reinstalling to no avail. If anyone has an idea about either of these problems please share...
Hey pole_vaulter1,
I had exactly the same problem (No previous version etc).
It can be solved by copying the .cab file in c:\program files\microsoft voice command\ onto your xda\imate\mda and running the cab file from there.
Hope this helps.
Craig.
Craig,
Thanks a bunch - worked perfectly. I really should have thought of that myself but I suppose that's what a forum is for. Now if I could only get my Tengo and Intellipad to show up instead of the keyboard it would be perfect (until the next upgrade,tweak, software, etc.)
THANKS,
Travis
Craig,
in my case the installer does not create the \program files\microsoft voice command\ directory. Can I extract the cab file from the msi?
G'day Eddy,
I'm assuming you have 1.0 or 1.1 installed on your ppc.
Do you install files to another location? The file that went into the directory I mentioned is ... "Microsoft Voice Command.PPC420_StrongARM.CAB". You might be able to search your pc for that file?
As for extracting the cab from the msi - no idea sorry
Hope you find it.
Craig.
Craig,
no, I did not have version 1.0 nor 1.1. I got the impression that you installed without a previous version.
G'day Eddy,
No, I had the exact same problem as Travis a couple of posts up where I installed the upgrade, it gave me an error at the end of the setup on my ppc saying I already had voice command already installed (even though you had to have it installed for the upgrade to work) so I uninstalled it on my ppc - soft booted it to make sure it wasn't still resident, tried to re-install it and it gave another error saying that I didn't have the necessary software installed (version 1).
I'm not sure if you can buy version 1 of the software anywhere anymore but from other posts, apparantly handango will only let you buy it if you are a US or Canada resident.
Sorry for the bad news for you.
Craig.
Cab file MSVC 1.50
I found the cab file. Just copy it to you're device. :lol:
Dutchie,
could you mail this cab file to me or did you extract from the msi file?
@Dutchie - do you have any problems with any of your SIP's?
The second I install it from the CAB file I'm unable to select either IntelliPad or MessageEase for my input methods.
If yours is working then I'm wondering what I've done wrong!
No Wifi or Wordlogic after MSVC :-(
SH..... no WIFI or Wordlogic after I installed 1.5. I uninstalled it, and they work again. Anyone having the same problem with Voice command??? :?:
Does 1.0 the same??
I had quite a few problems after installing Voice Command 1.5. MS Reader would not run (out of memory error) and Calligrapher would not work either (still apeared in the bottom right) but only keyboard would load when Calligrapher chosen.
If I disabled Voice Command 1.5 (as opposed to removing it) everything was fin again.
From another forum I found that the problems I was experienceing was related to plugins in the Today screen (I had the Sprite monitor programming running). When this was removed, Calligrapher kicked back into life and Voice Command 1.5 worked fine.
MS Reader still gave the same out of memory error, but I found that if I added a shortcut in the Startup directory for MS Reader and made sure it loaded first then it would work fine after that.
Hope this helps
Mike
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@Dutchie - do you have any problems with any of your SIP's?
The second I install it from the CAB file I'm unable to select either IntelliPad or MessageEase for my input methods.
If yours is working then I'm wondering what I've done wrong!
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NinjaDonkey said:
...do you have any problems with any of your SIP's?
The second I install it from the CAB file I'm unable to select either IntelliPad or MessageEase for my input methods.
If yours is working then I'm wondering what I've done wrong!
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Interestingly, I have a similar problem, but I haven't touched MS Voice Command. I've had to make Intellipad my default input method, even though I use Fitaly more often. Once I change from Intellipad to anything else, I can't go back to Intellipad, or anything else, for that matter...
The newest version of TomTom Navigator supports non touch screen devices.
I stumbled in this information by accident and thought it would be usefull over here.
I've tested it on a HTC StarTrek (qtek 8500 etc) with a WM 6.1 standard ROM and it works like a charm with the newest maps.
No more FakeCursor needed, you can scroll and use numeric keypad.
Version is: 7.915.9196.
Because of slightly warez related.....google is our best friend.
That's nice,
I can't even get it installed on my device. Always says installation unsuccesful.
I also have WM6.1 and same version of Tomtom.
Do you have any ideas?
If you have an older version installed on your device just unzip the new cab on your PC and rename following files:
TOMTOM~1.001 --> TomTom Navigator.exe
0000DATA.002 --> data.chk
Put the 2 renamed files in the same folder as your original installation (overwrite).
This should work.
If you don't have TT on your device, check if it's application unlocked, if not make sure it is and try again.
If nothing works, try to find a TTN 7 version that you don't have to install at all (it does excist) and use the two renamed files from above to upgrade if needed.
pm me if your out of options.
Hope it helps.
http://www.gpsunderground.com/forums/showthread.php?p=40431
Gps bt-com ttn7 wm5
Ciao,
thank you very much for this information, i just tryed out TTN7 on my StrTrk with the original WM5 ROM.
It seems, that you need the "BLUE" Version of TomTom Navigator 7, because scrolling in the "Black" Version isn't possible and additonal, hitting the "enter" Button causes a doubleclick.
So TomTom is running and seems to be a lot faster than TTM5.2, especially entering cities now works fine.
Everythings fine so long, BUT TTN7 won't finde my BT-GPS-Mouse: Selecting the mous is similar to TTM'5.2 but I need to choose the Com-Port...but non of the four alternatives work: it should be "Serial over Com1" but TomTom won't connect. I have TTM5.2 still installed...and it works fine with the GPS Reciever...(of course its paired, and on etc...)
Does anyone has an idea or the same prob?
thx
flunserl