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hello all,
i have spend the last 24 hours searching this forum, as any true newbie with an XDA should i got mine from a friend, but it was not used for over a year, so the battery was empty. i recharged the phone, but it won't turn on. i have readed a lot of topics here about phones that only go into bootloader, but mine does nothing at all. when i put it in the charger, the led turns red first and then orange and stays that way. it also won't turn on while it's in the charger.
i tried a soft and a hard reset, several times, i checked the battery, it gives 2.8-2.9 volts, i also tested the sim door switch, but that also seems to be ok.
also when i attach the USB cable to my pc (windows XP SP2 prof) it detects a device, but cannot make out what kind of, active sync also cant find the xda.
i don't know many more specs about it, cause i have not yet got it running. anyone got any sugestions for me that would bring back the phone to life?
greetings and thanks in advance!
These units tend to use a Lithium Ion battery:
If the battery is left plugged in and not charged for an extended duration, they tend to die beyond repair. Even though it says it may be charged, it is probable that it is not, and the unit will not power on without a certain amount of charge.
Is there any way you can try a known good working battery??
i know a few things about batterys too, so this thought had crossed my mind allready, but i hoped the xda would be able to run from the charger, so i could see if it was working.
the battery is coming back to life real slowly, but i think i'll have to look for a new one. the voltage is 2.93 volts at the moment and coming up with about .1 volt/hour. i think it needs to be 3.6 volts (like most lion accus)
tnx 4 the msg, if anyone has any other suggestions, would love to hear them
ps. maybe someone with an xda can measure his battery voltage for me so i can compare? you can check it on the back of your XDA with a simple voltage meter, just take the cap of the contact pins for the external battery and use the most left and most right pin.
Don't know about the XDA, but my XDA II does not run from the charger if the battery is removed or really flat - if it is really flat, I get nothing but a red lamp for a while till the charge has reached a certain level, then the unit turns itself on.
I can remember when i was on 2.2.2 affinity rom i could go 30 hours on one charge when on eclipse 1.3 and liberty i cant go more than 10 hours to me.. it makes no since... is there anything i can do like change the memory?
You may want to observe where your phone's battery is spending its energy however, it could be the known battery reporting issue.
Read some of the posts in the eclipse/liberty rom threads for details about the known issue for some insight.
mattr3121,
I noticed it the first time I charged phone after 2.3.4 update.
It was at 30% I turned off phone as I always do when I charge this
phone mostly been every day(It seemed to eliminate the random
reboots some members were reporting).
Anyway were was I oh yea so when I turn off phone it's at 30%
I plug it in Battery Icon pops up 50%. Do the math so when it
reach's 100% charge it stop's chargeing but it's really only at 80%
charge (others are reporting 20-40% jumps so worst case scenario
could leave you at a half charged battery). Resulting in your poor
battery life.
What I did in the above scenario is when it reached 100% I left
phone plugged in and pulled battery. I waited till battery icon came
back up it was empty with ? inside I put battery in & it proceeded to
charge. That's how I got my 100%. To avoid this never reboot phone
at less then 99%, don't every recharge phone at more then 20%.
This is my work around to prevent a suddenly dead battery.
Keeping all this in mind my battery life is much better on
2.3.4 then froyo or gingerbread 2.3.3.
Hope This Helps
Use the thanks button when someone helps you. (ITS FREE) and Its just nice to see
mattr3121 said:
I can remember when i was on 2.2.2 affinity rom i could go 30 hours on one charge when on eclipse 1.3 and liberty i cant go more than 10 hours to me.. it makes no since... is there anything i can do like change the memory?
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On Eclipse 1.3
9 1/2 hours on battery (light usage, but played some games and installed a new home app which included playing around with different themes and etc.)
The phone is at 59% so it isn't too bad.
Try wiping battery status and then full charge and see.
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mattr3121,
I noticed it the first time I charged phone after 2.3.4 update.
It was at 30% I turned off phone as I always do when I charge this
phone mostly been every day(It seemed to eliminate the random
reboots some members were reporting).
Anyway were was I oh yea so when I turn off phone it's at 30%
I plug it in Battery Icon pops up 50%. Do the math so when it
reach's 100% charge it stop's chargeing but it's really only at 80%
charge (others are reporting 20-40% jumps so worst case scenario
could leave you at a half charged battery). Resulting in your poor
battery life.
What I did in the above scenario is when it reached 100% I left
phone plugged in and pulled battery. I waited till battery icon came
back up it was empty with ? inside I put battery in & it proceeded to
charge. That's how I got my 100%. To avoid this never reboot phone
at less then 99%, don't every recharge phone at more then 20%.
This is my work around to prevent a suddenly dead battery.
Keeping all this in mind my battery life is much better on
2.3.4 then froyo or gingerbread 2.3.3.
Hope This Helps
Use the thanks button when someone helps you. (ITS FREE) and Its just nice to see
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FYI.
this is called a "bump charge" and yes it is very useful
ashclepdia ,
Wait a minute ashclepdia you mean I didn't have to do all that typing (One Finger typer here). I could have just said bump charge? Thanks for the info and Thanks for covering my back again buddy.
If this was helpful, be sure to press the thanks button!
How can I complete a "bump charge" with bootstrap recovery installed? When I pulled the battery after charging and still plugged in, it brought me up in recovery. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Romans8vs1 said:
How can I complete a "bump charge" with bootstrap recovery installed? When I pulled the battery after charging and still plugged in, it brought me up in recovery. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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go into system recovery app(or eclipse parts if running eclipse)
and press charge mode button first before starting the bump charge.
just be sure to reinstall recovery and press recovery mode again after u r done to be sure u can get back into system recovery later if needed...
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ImgBurn said:
ashclepdia ,
Wait a minute ashclepdia you mean I didn't have to do all that typing (One Finger typer here). I could have just said bump charge? Thanks for the info and Thanks for covering my back again buddy.
If this was helpful, be sure to press the thanks button!
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yeah u could have ...but if u just said np charge u would have gotten a bunch of "I searched but couldn't find what that is or how to do it " posts so u wpulda had to explain anyways Hahaha.
a "true" bump charge should be done from a battery that is down to around 5-15% ...
and what u do is start with battery out so u see question mark battery. then insert battery let charge to 100% without break. then pull battery. wait for"?" again. reinsert and it should show 5% for a while or something less than 100%. after about ½hr it will jump up to 100%...take off charger and reboot.
ashclepdia said:
go into system recovery app(or eclipse parts if running eclipse)
and press charge mode button first before starting the bump charge.
just be sure to reinstall recovery and press recovery mode again after u r done to be sure u can get back into system recovery later if needed...
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yeah u could have ...but if u just said np charge u would have gotten a bunch of "I searched but couldn't find what that is or how to do it " posts so u wpulda had to explain anyways Hahaha.
a "true" bump charge should be done from a battery that is down to around 5-15% ...
and what u do is start with battery out so u see question mark battery. then insert battery let charge to 100% without break. then pull battery. wait for"?" again. reinsert and it should show 5% for a while or something less than 100%. after about ½hr it will jump up to 100%...take off charger and reboot.
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Ok, I'm new on the X2 forum but I've been looking at some threads.
There's one to apply a fix, is that not working?
thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350336
I'm on 2.3.4 and battery reading is crazy.
I'm looking for a fix.
Should I run the patch or not?
sytech55 said:
Ok, I'm new on the X2 forum but I've been looking at some threads.
There's one to apply a fix, is that not working?
thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1350336
I'm on 2.3.4 and battery reading is crazy.
I'm looking for a fix.
Should I run the patch or not?
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The fix is so when you reboot it does not jump around with what the battery is reporting as a charge. It works I can reboot over and over and the battery doesnt jump around.
I am going to try the bump charge and see if that help get a full charge and correct stats.
I'm not bothered by the battery problem. I have it hooked to the wall when ever I can. So I don't really see it. But I'm glad he fixed either way!
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hi people
please check this 2 min video and you will come to know what i am trying to say and what help i need
Note : this video is raw not edited.
100% to 81% in just 2 min
i use :
1. ics final by jusada
2. lagfreev1
3. volume battery drain fix
i recently did battery calibration also both by software and cwm recovery wipe method. due tho this i have to remain under power or other way is to switch off and charge, but guys i can't switch off my device its always ringing and my business also.
Youtube video link as i don't know how to embed here :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecEaHAaXSwU
Calibrate battery:
Turn phone off
Charge until 100% appears on the screen.
Turn off charger and remove battery
Put battery back in battery after at least 90 seconds.
Use CWM to boot into recovery
Go to advanced and delete Battery Stats
Reboot phone & DO NOT recharge
When the phone reaches 10% charge, put back on charge.
Remember all battery start to loose their charge if used constantly. Re chargable batteries become less effective over time.
Wy u disconnect the charger when it reaches 100%?? Its fake dude. Wait till the system reminds u in the notification that battery charged!!.. Some ROMs might hav removed that.. Seriously charge ur battery from 10% to 100% for 3 HRS...
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Wy u disconnect the charger when it reaches 100%?? Its fake dude. Wait till the system reminds u in the notification that battery charged!!.. Some ROMs might hav removed that.. Seriously charge ur battery from 10% to 100% for 3 HRS...
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It's not fake. I charged for six hours straight and have th same result as this guy. cooltt is correct: the effectiveness of rechargable batteries degrade over time.
Sent from my GT-S5830
cooltt said:
Calibrate battery:
Turn phone off
Charge until 100% appears on the screen.
Turn off charger and remove battery
Put battery back in battery after at least 90 seconds.
Use CWM to boot into recovery
Go to advanced and delete Battery Stats
Reboot phone & DO NOT recharge
When the phone reaches 10% charge, put back on charge.
Remember all battery start to loose their charge if used constantly. Re chargable batteries become less effective over time.
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I already did this mate as i have stated in my 1st post. Regarding effectiveness i purchased this mobile 1 month ago.
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Prashanthme said:
Wy u disconnect the charger when it reaches 100%?? Its fake dude. Wait till the system reminds u in the notification that battery charged!!.. Some ROMs might hav removed that.. Seriously charge ur battery from 10% to 100% for 3 HRS...
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I am on custom rom mate and nothing reminds at full charge. Don't comment when u cant help
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mor_1228 said:
I am on custom rom mate and nothing reminds at full charge. Don't comment when u cant help
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He meant with a good intention .
The more you become hostile , the more people will not help you .
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
EmoBoiix3 said:
He meant with a good intention .
The more you become hostile , the more people will not help you .
Herpderp Adreno + Tegra.
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He commented as video fake, whereas i already mentioned in first post the video is not edited and is raw posted here.
Ok everyone calm down.
My original post about how to calibrate this battery is correct, i'm using ICS final no tweaks by Jusada and i get the 100% charged confirmation when i charge with phone switched off.
I know some custom roms don't have this feature but you can still charge to capacity with the phone on, when it reaches 100% turn the phone off and charge for a further 20 mins.
This battery takes 2hrs 42 mins to charge from dead but you should never allow it to die as it strains the internal structure of the battery.
The battery icon is not a true representation of the remaining charge until the phone has been used over a couple of days and charged up at least once, this is the way all rechargerble batteries work
ya actually if i charge with my device off i get full charge in 2:30 to 3 hours but when i switch on and charge then it charges from dead to 100 in just 1:30 hours so by this i know we are not getting full charge while on.
but guys this is bad we need to find some way out this is really not good that we have to switch off our devices as there can be some emergency also, never did in my nokia,blackberry.
by the way in some thread i read this trick so today i followed this and will post my result after 24 hours :
How to Calibrate your battery ; guide by Hiroshirou :
1. (phone on) charge to 100% until it actually says full in settings > about phone > status > battery status
2. unplug charger and turn off phone
3. (phone off) plug charger in until it charges to 100%
4. unplug charger and power it on
5. (phone on) plug the charger in and charge it to 100%
6. unplug charger and reboot phone to recovery (into cwm5)
7. go to advanced and clear battery stats.
8. turn on the the phone and charge it to 100% - DONE!
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its normal, android battery gauge is lying all along.
combine with already ****ty battery in ace made it even worse.
www.androidpolice.com/2010/12/14/your-battery-gauge-is-lying-to-you-everything-you-need-to-know-about-bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
and read this to calibrate. its the one and only tuts i use to recalibrate
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1071885
Did you by any chance, send an input current into an output port? (like 3.5mm jack)
redlag said:
Did you by any chance, send an input current into an output port? (like 3.5mm jack)
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never mate i never did that.
mor_1228 said:
never mate i never did that.
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Alright. I once accidently put my speaker output into 3.5mm jack instead of speaker input in my last phone and my battery didn't use to last more than 30 minutes. Maybe you can try to swap batteries temporarily to check if it's a battery issue or phone/software issue! That will narrow it down.
its a software issue only as my battery is new i purchased 1 month ago.
Backup data and perform a fresh installation and calibrate again.
It this doesn't work, it's definitely a hardware issue.
P.s. age doesn't matter. A bad battery will go bad whenever it wants to. I will still suggest you to try swapping batteries first to narrow down the issue. Try krne mein kya jata hai?
oki i am on a test of a procedure that will complete in 24 hours after that i will try to use fresh installation right now i am busy in editing custom ROM for me so i guess have to wait for battery to got down till 10%.
For the past few days my battery has been charging to a max of 92%, whether or not I try unplugging the battery, leaving the phone on the charger, wiping battery stats, and doing all that I can to try to reset the battery stats.
Anyone have any idea?
UPDATE: My phone is still not charging past 92%, no matter how long I leave it on, or what I try to do to fix it. 4167mv max
I have a similar issue, it's been like that for a long time for me. What ROM/kernel are you running? It might fix it to completely drain it, charge it powered off, reinstall ROM/kernels when it is completely charged and reset battery.
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drain it until it shuts off and then charge it all the way to 100%.
I too was having this issue after going from cm7 week 5, to week 8. I did what others were recommending and charged to what showed 4200mv, pulled the battery while still plugged in, put battery back in then after it showed 5%, turned it back on and Viola, 100% battery. Try it.
its most effective if you know your battery is fully charged, power it down, pull the battery, while the battery is pulled plug it into the power adapter, it will act like its starting to charge, but then instead of having a percentage, it will have a question mark. pull the power, put the battery back in, turn on, wipe battery stats in recovery and run with it...
GL
johng75 said:
its most effective if you know your battery is fully charged, power it down, pull the battery, while the battery is pulled plug it into the power adapter, it will act like its starting to charge, but then instead of having a percentage, it will have a question mark. pull the power, put the battery back in, turn on, wipe battery stats in recovery and run with it...
GL
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I just started having this issue and cant wait to try it thanks for the suggestions.
when this happend on mine all i did was keep using it and it fixed itself. i ran it down maybe to 20% before I got to charge it again and it slowly creeped back up to 100%. took about a week.
I've had the problem, and have run the solution more times that I can count. But nothing ever fixes it permanently. Everytime I run the battery low, the levels get all screwy again. Maybe my phone is just worse than everyone else's, but I had to just give up on it. Would love a permanent solution, but so long as I'm running this ROM (CM7), I doubt I'll ever find one.
lurchbyrep said:
I've had the problem, and have run the solution more times that I can count. But nothing ever fixes it permanently. Everytime I run the battery low, the levels get all screwy again. Maybe my phone is just worse than everyone else's, but I had to just give up on it. Would love a permanent solution, but so long as I'm running this ROM (CM7), I doubt I'll ever find one.
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I'm in the same situation as you are... I had this problem for a long time now (Guess it has something to do with excessive flashing...) and no matter what kind of solution I do (Wipe battery stats via recovery, re-calibrate the battery, pull the battery out while charging and replugging it) it returns after a day or two.
I want to check if it has something to do with the battery or the device, and if I will remember to do so, I will plug my spare battery for several day's run, but that is subjected to me leaving the comfort of my usual laziness....
Would love if there was a permanent solution as well, thou I doubt that too....
I've had the same problem on a number of different roms and at different times. I find that instead of mucking around wiping stats etc, it has always come good eventually for me.
timfoote said:
I've had the same problem on a number of different roms and at different times. I find that instead of mucking around wiping stats etc, it has always come good eventually for me.
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Didn't really understand what you meant, did the battery percentage fixed by itself and gave you 100% at full charge on one day? out of the blue?
Or did you just got used to have less then 100% battery display?
Magnetox said:
For the past few days my battery has been charging to a max of 92%, whether or not I try unplugging the battery, leaving the phone on the charger, wiping battery stats, and doing all that I can to try to reset the battery stats.
Anyone have any idea?
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First let the battery completely drain and the phone shut down by it self. Second step is to pull out the battery and leave it out for 10min, after that take a plastic bag and put the battery in it and place it in the freezer for 15min. after this palce the battery again in the mobile. make sure there is no any moisture on the battery. Then charge the phone without power on till 100%.
By following these steps this will made your battery to charge fully and more talk time
masood8 said:
First let the battery completely drain and the phone shut down by it self. Second step is to pull out the battery and leave it out for 10min, after that take a plastic bag and put the battery in it and place it in the freezer for 15min. after this palce the battery again in the mobile. make sure there is no any moisture on the battery. Then charge the phone without power on till 100%.
By following these steps this will made your battery to charge fully and more talk time
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Um correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but doesn't cold kill the battery and shorten its life? I remember my mom always putting new batteries in the fridge and them only lasting a couple days compared to the ones left out that lasted a month or so with same use.
masood8 said:
First let the battery completely drain and the phone shut down by it self. Second step is to pull out the battery and leave it out for 10min, after that take a plastic bag and put the battery in it and place it in the freezer for 15min. after this palce the battery again in the mobile. make sure there is no any moisture on the battery. Then charge the phone without power on till 100%.
By following these steps this will made your battery to charge fully and more talk time
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Haha, I got a good laugh out of this one -- you've got to be joking.
I've had this problem for a quite a while now with the Atrix and two different batteries. I've tried dozens of combination of resetting the battery stats, running the battery completely down, and powering up without the battery and hot swapping it in. The hot swap definitely allows me to finally recharge to 100%, but once I run it down again, the problem returns. I've learned to just live with the less than 100% reading -- battery still seems to last a full 24 hours for me.
masood8 said:
First let the battery completely drain and the phone shut down by it self. Second step is to pull out the battery and leave it out for 10min, after that take a plastic bag and put the battery in it and place it in the freezer for 15min. after this palce the battery again in the mobile. make sure there is no any moisture on the battery. Then charge the phone without power on till 100%.
By following these steps this will made your battery to charge fully and more talk time
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That trick hasn't worked since nicad batteries in the 90s, and is a really bad idea with our Li-PO.
Drain the battery till the phone shuts off, charge back up while the phone is off.
If it still doesn't get to 100%, boot into CWM, wipe battery stats and power off the phone to let it charge again.
^^ I know it works because I've done this like 2 days ago, and many times before that.
I have had this issue as well for a very long time. I've tried the pull out, question mark, 5% thing and it usually only works for one cycle, then the next only goes to 97%, then the next to 93%, then 90%, and it continually goes down until I have to do it again. Hopefully a permanent fix can be found soon. I've tried clearing battery stats, draining it to 0%, then charging it fully. I've tried everything. As far as I'm concerned, there's no fix as of right now.
Thanks man this worked like charm of 100 witches and 100 warlocks having orgy and satin worship
pre4speed said:
I too was having this issue after going from cm7 week 5, to week 8. I did what others were recommending and charged to what showed 4200mv, pulled the battery while still plugged in, put battery back in then after it showed 5%, turned it back on and Viola, 100% battery. Try it.
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dyno0919 said:
I have had this issue as well for a very long time. I've tried the pull out, question mark, 5% thing and it usually only works for one cycle, then the next only goes to 97%, then the next to 93%, then 90%, and it continually goes down until I have to do it again. Hopefully a permanent fix can be found soon. I've tried clearing battery stats, draining it to 0%, then charging it fully. I've tried everything. As far as I'm concerned, there's no fix as of right now.
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★ATTENTION! I FOUND THE FIX!★
Turn phone off and plug it in to a wall charger. Charge it until your notification light turns green, quickly tap the power button to check battery level. (Usually shows 90%) If the notification light turns on, but the battery indicator is not at 100%, unplug phone, take out battery and put it back in. Now plug your phone. It should be 100% now. For the final fix: go into "Android Recovery" and select "Mounts". Mount Your SD card and Emmc. Finally wipe battery stats. Reboot phone.
This method worked for me. I am 100% sure this is the fix for this problem. This has to be done every time you flash a new rom or when your phone freezes and you screw up calibration by pulling the battery while it is still on. BTW, this is my first post so don't be mean to me!
Sent from my MB860 CM7 20FEB 1.0 GHz Enhanced
xateeq said:
Thanks man this worked like charm of 100 witches and 100 warlocks having orgy and satin worship
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Satin worship, is that like old fashioned polyester worship?
Hi!
I don't know why and how but I think the battery of my phone died. My phone is about 1 year old. It is fully charged then I remove the charger and then I start using my phone for about 15 minutes. After it the phone turns off with the reason battery is down. I plug in the charger(phone off) and it starts charging from 60-70 % and after about 30 minutes it says "Fully charged". Then it starts from the beginning. I tried flashing other ROMs, wiping battery stats... I think the detection of how much the battery is charged went wrong.. So if you guys could tell me another way which can maybe help i would appreciate it.. or the last chance is taking it back to service.
Thanks in advance!
psychoo118
I think you must buy a new battery as the same thing happened with my friend and he bought a new battery and the problem was solved.
otherwise check if your battery has any leakage
if it has leakage then replace the battery immediately with a new one.
psychoo118 said:
Hi!
I don't know why and how but I think the battery of my phone died. My phone is about 1 year old. It is fully charged then I remove the charger and then I start using my phone for about 15 minutes. After it the phone turns off with the reason battery is down. I plug in the charger(phone off) and it starts charging from 60-70 % and after about 30 minutes it says "Fully charged". Then it starts from the beginning. I tried flashing other ROMs, wiping battery stats... I think the detection of how much the battery is charged went wrong.. So if you guys could tell me another way which can maybe help i would appreciate it.. or the last chance is taking it back to service.
Thanks in advance!
psychoo118
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Same here man. Me too facing this problem
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virajjjj said:
Same here man. Me too facing this problem
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Goin to buy new battery tommorrow
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Thanks for your reply! Don't you know maybe if guarantee covered the battery change?
The battery is old
Buy other
Or try calibrating
For future reference, the battery only indicates 100% but it's usually not 100%. I forgot the term but the reason for this happening is because the indicator
jumps up to 100% when it's actually (let's say) 95%, when it reaches to 100% (for real) it stops charging and will let itself discharge until it reaches
a point where it starts to recharge again. During the whole time it will say 100% even though it's discharing or recharging, when plugged in.
So therefore when you unplug it and it shows a lower percentage after awhile, that's when it is actually showing you the "real" power left.
("real", since the indicator isnt quite accurate anyway)