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Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
paperuccio said:
Hi there! I have an MDA II and a Parrot CK-3000 (with sw ver. 3.13) carkit. I read about the outcoming of this sw and I decided to install it on my MDAII. But, after a correct installing procedure, it simply doesn't work: my carkit remains mute like a fish!!! :shock: I'm asking you, guys already use successfully this sw, a hand of help to solve my trouble (if possible). Note that I downloaded it from this
http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
and I tried to follow all the instructions placed in there...
Thank you all!
pap
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Why not email the author, he is most helpful.
Had the same issue with the Parrot. My Plantronics headset works a treat, but not the Parrot.
I mailed the author who confirmed there are some problems and a new release will be needed.
As the author is doing this work unpaid and the functionality is so good, I can wait.
@ mrg2003
I send an e-mail some days ago but still had no response.
Anyway, I agree with IanF and I'll wait for the new release.
I wish I read this bulletin board more often.
Yes, I have exactly the same problem with the CK3000 (v3.13) and PBT. HBH-35 works a treat but CK3000 does not bond (XDA thinks it does but there is no handshaking and CK3000 repeats request to bond).
Back to basics again ...
Incidentally, does anyone know if Tobias plans to engineer a way to trigger Voice Command and take input from the car microphone for voice recognition? Would be the dogs and well worth a major donation ....
Cheers
I've had some problems with pocket bluetooth. I have emailed tobias as follows and am awaiting a reply. Was wondering if anyone has faced similar problems:
Tobias,
Thanks for all the hard work in getting these tools working. I have just bought an XDAII with the latest 1.60.00 ROM using the 1.10.00 radio version.
At the same time, I have a WIDCOMM bluetooth dongle on my PC which supports numerous profiles including the headset profile, which allows me to use the PC's speakers and mic as a 'headset' with the XDAII.
I set up the XDAII with the PC, using the built-in bluetooth bonding and pairing application and managed to get it all working fine with the PC using the speakers and the mic as the headset, with the phone automatically transferring the call to the PC when the 'Bluetooth Headset mode is enabled' shows on the today screen. Furthermore, activesync also seems to work fine too.
After installing Pocket Bluetooth Tools, the headset stops working. Before installing it, I unpaired the device by deleting it from the list of paired devices. After installation and going through the process of pairing the device again, it correctly gives me the option to choose the Serial Port, ActiveSync, Modem, and Headset profile. I select all of these and click on OK. Once this happens, my PC gives me a message saying that the XDAII has connected with the headset. However, this doesn’t happen once but goes into a continuous loop giving me notifications every 2-3 seconds that this is the case. Furthermore, when making a call to see if the voice has been transferred to the PC< this stops working and the XDAII's speaker and mic continue to be used. The only way to stop the constant loop of connections is to switch off the bluetooth radio on the XDAII. Furthermore, when deleting the pairing from the XDAII this constant loop continues.
Have you faced this issue previously, as I think it may be a bug. The only reason I installed pocket Bluetooth is that my current b.tooth headset is a Nokia HDW-30 that supports the handsfree profile and your documentation states that Pocket Bluetooth tools supports this profile.
Let me know if there is a fix for this.
pap[/quote]
Why not email the author, he is most helpful.[/quote]
maybe just because he doesn't answer
i wrote a very long report some days after the long awaited new version came out in april, but haven't got any reply. (maybe my email got lost - who knows ...)
i have exactly the same problems. i also have a parrot ck3000 (tried with firmware 3.11 and 3.13) and an mda2 with rom 1.6.00GER and extROM 1.60.07. the two devices pair, and sometime i can even select the "headphone profile" afterwards. i even managed to make it work ONCE, after several hours, of installing, reinstalling, pairing, reparing, ect, ect ...
what did work once was making calls. but after the first call came in, i could answer it, the caller could hear me, but i couldn't hear anything. this happened twice and then i just turned off bt and used the mobile as always.
as i'm using my mda in my car for work and not for fun this is no solution for me . i went back to the original bt stack that works quite well. i can make and take calls w/o any problems.
one thing i'd like to see changed (as soon as parrot and mda work together) is, that ALL calls are made via the handsfree, as, as long i'm in the car it HAVE TO use the handsfree by law (and it's much more comfortable anyway). it's not practicle to dial with the mobile, and then by pressing the green button on the parrot to move the call to the handsfree. but that's the only way you can do it when using speeddial.
another thing i desperately miss is a way to change the volume of the handsfree. i could do this using the volume slider of my nokia 6310, but volume stays all the same when using the mda. and it's just too low when doing higher speeds on the autobahn
of course voice dialing would be a great feature to have ... but it's not that necessary.
please don't get me wrong .. i'm don't want to be ungrateful as i'm not paying for this software - i just want to help ppl by saying that they are not alone with their problem and they should give up wasting their time and better wait for a new release....
and of course i'm very willing to PAY for that software as well as soon as it is any improvement over the original bt stack (for me of course. for most of you it already is)
maybe TOWA could say some words here. that would be really appreciated.
thanks anyway a lot to all ppl that spend their free time developing software and providing it to the comunity!!! thumbs up !
regards ize|man
Bluetooth tools and ROM 1.72
Does ROM version 1.72 require TOWA's bluetooth tools? In this ROM, there are options for COM port selection etc under Bluetooth settings and the clubimate site mentions bluetooth improvements. Anyone with this info?
other com settings then
Inbound COM port com4
outbound COM port com5
??
if so what are they?
Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
faisal said:
Rudegar
You are right. Inbound 4, outbound 5. Likely required for GPS devices, if i am not mistaken
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These are the ports for BT beaming, as I understand! (not for BT GPS).
For BT GPS you do not specifically need BTHTools anymore (since 1.66) because WM can install a BT GPS com at first bonding.
Something is different however (vs BTHTools) since with 1 application (Alturion) I can not get the BT GPS working anymore, which can also not be solved by still installing BTHTools!! (while I have no problems with my other application TT. Figure that out?!)
Ronald
I now have the same problem, the parrot ck3000 was working until I insatlle dthe bluetooth tools, and now it doesn't.
Its a shame I did not see this thread before
Will the 1.72 rom work with both parrot and my emtac bluetooth gps?
Cheers
Justinp
justinp
have you tried uninstalling Bluetoothtools?
no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
justinp said:
no not yet, I might give that a go, but then my gps wont work :?
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I think it will still work!
With my working application (TT3) I see the GPS on COM5 (installed by WM) + on COM7 (installed by BTHTools) + on the BT/SIRF interface!
If I uninstall BTHTools I only loose the selection for COM7. The other two selections still work!
Of course you must have acknowledged the WM com installation with first bonding (in any case for the serial operation)! My BT/SIRF connection always works in TT3 regardless of WM/BTHTools installation of serial ports.
Ronald
I'm also having that strange problem with the parrot CK3000. I did install the previous version of BT but I don't see any difference with or without BT. But when I de-install and want to go back to the original state, the same problem persist. Is there any way to download anyware the original Bluetooth stack without re-install everything (and loosing all my settings and software)?
Thanks for helping out.
Frank.
Can anyone confirm the current state of play with the the various WM2003 SE (2.02 or 2.06) versions and bluetooth profiles.
I've upgraded to V2.06, but I'm unable to use my Nokia Bluetooth handsfree unit due to it only supporting handsfree profiles.
I'm trying to establish if this is a problem with the Nokia handsfree kit or the version of SE I've upgraded to. If V2.02 supports handsfree then I'll upgrade to this version.
V2.06 creates a partnership, but there's no way of switching from headset to handsfree?
a18041967 said:
...V2.06 creates a partnership, but there's no way of switching from headset to handsfree?
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You can tap and hold on the partnership and select 'set as handsfree'.
Yep thats what I thought, I've tried tapping, holding the headset icon on the today screen, no joy so I assumed I was in the wrong place.
If I go into Bluetooth, the partnership is listed, if I tap and hold on the device name, I get a menu that is delete or edit, if I select edit I can only change the name? Is this the correct location, and does this headset option work in both V2.02 & 2.06 if so it could be the Nokia handsfree causing problems?
I think I can confirm that the Nokia CK-7W does not work with the new WM2003 SE V2.06 update. I just checked again, a partnership can be created but there is not way to switch it to handsfree mode.
maybe the vidcomm bluetooth stack would solve it ?
This merged English version of WM2003SE is compiled for the Australian model O2 XDA II.
:!: NOTE: It is supplied as is. Use it at your own risk!!!
:idea: TIP: First backup your data and settings using either ActiveSync, SDBackup or XBackup - then download the attached ROM_Backup.zip - extract and follow the instructions in the ROM backup folder.
To install the merged WM2003SE:
1. Download the attached Setup.exe
2. Insert your O2 XDA II into it's USB cradle and confirm that a successful USB connection has been made with your PC
3. Run Setup.exe and follow the onscreen prompts.
Details:
The ROM image is based on version: 2.06.00WWE (ver 4.21.1088 build 14132)
The Radio image is version: 1.18.00
The Extended ROM image is a variance of version 2.06.100a (Sin.Merged.v1.0)
The Extended ROM contains the following:
Merge of ROM 2.02.t1WWE over ROM 2.06.00WWE, pre-configured with:
AltTab, Blackberry, Caller ID, Camera, ClearType Landscape, ClearType Tuner, ClearVue, CMD, Contacts, Explorer, ExtROM Tools, Flash, Fonts, IE Tools, IntelliDialer, Keyboard Extension, Midi Ringtone, MMS Composer, MS Reader, Notepad, O2 Customisations, Paint, Print, RegEdit, Reset, Rotate Screen, Run, Scheduled Tasks, Space Invaders, Task Manager, Tray Launch, Video MMS, WiFi & BT Headset/Handsfree Profiles.
The Autoconfig only contains support for the following Australian Carriers: - Optus, Telstra & Vodafone + "Not Listed - Set Manually"
KNOWN ISSUES:
Today Screen BT Profile Icon likes to play Hide'n'seek
BT HandsFree Mode may disable headset mic.
A choice of either HandsFree or Headset profile is now enabled, please select only one or the other.
NOTE: BT HandsFree Mode may disable headset mic
Uninstall "Version Sin.BT.Handsfree" from "Settings->Remove Programs" if necessary.
:arrow: INFO: New version is here!
Thanks very much Sin!
Been Looking forward to this SiN! Made my weekend!
Thank Sin for putting it together.
I originally Had and Orange SPV M1000, and upgraded it with the O2 1.72 version, in the hope that it would sort out the problems with Blue Tooth and Handsfree car kits, which it did not of course.
Thought I would try the rom from Mystery Man, which interestingly did not require any changes to the files to allow it to update, which also did not work the blue tooth, so I was going to try just updating the Radio to 1.18, but saw your new package pop up, so thought what the hell, give it a go, and now I am made up cos been very frustrated that it would not work in car kit.
The car kit I have is the Nokia CK-7W Blue tooth if this helps anyone else, I also assume it will work with the others, in particualr the built in ones in BMW's.
So thanks again everyone, I can sleep now.
Mark
Other known issues..
Thanks for the job SIN!
I have to point out a couple of issues I'm having since long, that seem related to the BT problem, but looks like no one else is having: "DUAL STEREO" sound in both (XDA II and Handsfree/headset) devices.
No matter BT headset is "enabled" or "disabled", the devices configured as "handsfree" are operational. Plus, my HBH 35 headset refuses to work unless configured as a handsfree device. After that, every handsfree device works in "STEREO" mode. Nice for multi part conferences, but annoying for your caller, who hears every tap on the XDA in your pocket, since the mic is operational no matter what.
I'm really the only one with this problem?
:?:
Hi Sin
Just a quick question, tried to change the splash1 & 2 images, to get away fro O2 image you put into file, but having probs with corrupted display if the image, howd you do it please, as I understand the normal method does not work with Chinese and Trial versions !
Many thanks in advance.
Mark
BTHFP
Does the headset mic work on handsfree profile Sin?
thanks Sin
I tried to modify the extended ROM to modify the provider list but couldn't found the autoconfig.txt, is it ok to create autoconfig and put it there? or did you merged the autoconfig inside Sin.Merged.v1.0.cab?
please let me know
thanks
Brumie
Re: Other known issues..
Looking Glass,
Your not the only one with this problem.
I have a bmw with bluetooth and it does the dual stero trick.
I have a Bluespoon Digital and it also does the dual stereo trick.
Has any one tried removing the head set profile and leaving just the hands free
Thanks
Jon
hai where can i download the attachment? i need to upgrade my xda2 urgently.. thanks.
Other Bluetooth Devices
Before I try out these new updates which sound fantasic, I am interetsed to know how this will effect my bluetooth GPS.
Currently I am using bluetooth tools to connect my GPS to my XDAII, does the new roms enhance bluetooth or should I still install bluetooth tools?
thanks.
Re: Other known issues..
"I have a bmw with bluetooth and it does the dual stero trick
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I just tried the car again and it worked perfectly. So it looks like I only have the problem with the Bluespoon.
I'm pretty happy with the car working as that was what I really wanted.
Johnson..... you have to log in then you will find the attchments at the bottom of the first post in this thread.
Guest... I dont have a bluetooth GPS. Ive no idea if it works. I do know you cant get the Sandisk WiFi SD card to work which is a bummer.
Jon
ExtendedROM...
@ Sin,
This merge ROM version of yours, what is the most very important file that I need to keep on my extended_ROM? Last time I used your version without any problem But I need to remove some CAB file for my own customization. But now seems that ms_.nbf has only one file (Sin.Merged.v1.0.cab) which I think all the CAB file was in there.
Is it possible to gave us your merge CAB without the rest of installed program? Or is it okay to delete some CAB on extended_ROM after installation (cooked-own ROM style)?
Thanks!
Re: Other Bluetooth Devices
Anonymous said:
Before I try out these new updates which sound fantasic, I am interetsed to know how this will effect my bluetooth GPS.
Currently I am using bluetooth tools to connect my GPS to my XDAII, does the new roms enhance bluetooth or should I still install bluetooth tools?
thanks.
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What ROM are you using now? I used to have 1.72 ROM and I need to used Bluetooth tools to be able to use both BT headset and BT GPS (Belkin/rebadge Fortuna Clip-on). BUT with ROM 2.06 (mysteryman), Sin.AU.v3.5(extended_ROM) and 2.02t1 Reg CABv3.cab (from henrylim). I am no longger needed bluetooth tools, it works without any issue.
file mentioned can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=13660&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50
Hope this help. I haven't tried Sin.merge.v1.0 yet but I will soon.
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916senna said:
Looking Glass,
Your not the only one with this problem.
I have a bmw with bluetooth and it does the dual stero trick.
I have a Bluespoon Digital and it also does the dual stereo trick.
Has any one tried removing the head set profile and leaving just the hands free
Thanks
Jon
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Nice to know, thanks for info, I was about to think no one else has the problem.
I've been experimenting during the weekend, and found that the problem remains quite the same: some headsets/handsfree only work if the HandsFree profile is selected, and then the "dual stereo" problem arises again.
By contrast, version 2.20 properly handles every "audio" device (at least my devices) but I haven't found how to made BT ActiveSync back to life. Plus the other known issues with the translation (May I help Buzz_lightyear?)
Resume: Excellent job by Sin (regards) but the whole BT thing is not yet fixed. I like his "new compact" Ext Rom, but since HandsFree profile is at this time more important to me than BT ActiveSync, I'm going back to 2.20.
Not there yet...
with WMP 10
in rom, with wmp 10 ?
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bos_xda_II said:
in rom, with wmp 10 ?
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Only 2.20 comes with wmp 10. Sin's rom has version 9.
Not there yet...
Re: Other Bluetooth Devices
Anonymous said:
Before I try out these new updates which sound fantasic, I am interetsed to know how this will effect my bluetooth GPS.
Currently I am using bluetooth tools to connect my GPS to my XDAII, does the new roms enhance bluetooth or should I still install bluetooth tools?
thanks.
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I have a CoPilot Bluetooth GPS unit and it does not need Bluetooth Tools to get it to work via serial port emulation. I'm using 2.06 ROM.
With the BT GPS bonding, you get to say you want it to be a serial port but you don't get to specify what specific port number like with Bluetooth tools. This is not a problem with CoPilot software as it will FIND the serial port and baud rate in it's Bluetooth connection/configuration setup.
I also have a SanDisk SDIO WiFi card which also works fine (note the card is NOT the SDIO RAM+WiFi though!).
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916senna said:
"I have a bmw with bluetooth and it does the dual stero trick
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I just tried the car again and it worked perfectly. So it looks like I only have the problem with the Bluespoon.
I'm pretty happy with the car working as that was what I really wanted.
......
Jon
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Hi again!
How exactly did you get to eliminate de "Dual stereo" effect in your carkit? I have too a HBH 35 headset and the problem remains on both of them.
This is my only complain, everything else works so well! And Sin made such a good job putting the Ext Rom together!
Thanks Sin for the easy to install ROM.. well done.
My Bluetooth GPS works fine, a bit of a change not having to select a port, but the port is displayed so that wasn't a problem.
My Logitech Headset refuses to work. It pairs with the XDAII but I am unable to iniate a call from the headset and the mic doesn't work.
The Bluetooth smybol is gone from the task bar too... probably something I did...
Is there a cab about that allows me to reinstall the bluetooth section just in case I stuffed somethign up?
Thanks.
The Orange SPV M1000, same as a XDAii, does not allow 2 headset profile bluetooth devices to be connected
The phone works fine with my Motorla 810 bluetooth headset.
It will also work fine with the Parrot 3300 to take and make calls, run TomTom3 sat nav and Livewire Speedcare.
The problem is the software on Orange will not allow 2 devices to be paired and stored on the phone which have bluetooth headset profile recognised. When the second device is paired it stops recognisning the headset capabilities of the first device.
Orange do not have a care kit profile for the phone.
This brings significant problems in moving from car to foot as one has to repair the alternative device. All settings and voice commands are then lost for the previous device.
Can anyone direct me to somewhere I can have the O2 software installed or an alternative solution for allowing 2 Bluetooth headset profile devices being paired at one time. Only one device will be connected at a time.
Does the WM 2005 bluetooth work properly with handsfree profile or is it like 2003 and only work with head set profile :?:
Thanks
Jon
Works perfectly with my MR Handsfree headset. Until now I could not get it working in handsfree mode. With WM2005 it is working.
Own an AUDI with the factory installed Bluetooth handsfree kit and I have never been able to pair the XDAii with it so that it works properly - incredibly unstable and never could get to work completely... been lurking this forum and others and tried lots of solutions... upgraded the OS to WM5 today and first time paired and works perfectly - even displays caller ID on the Audi instrumentation!!! Most pleased - now if only I can get the o2 GPRS connection to work
Did notice the following problems with the Bluetooth
- Com ports not recognised - seemed to have something to do with the pairing... simple reset after pairing with Audi would then allow com port assigned to BT GPS (not fully tested yet)
- Multiple pairing - device seems to want to pair more than once not sure about this one but who cares it works now
916senna said:
Does the WM 2005 bluetooth work properly with handsfree profile or is it like 2003 and only work with head set profile :?:
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I have Ericsson's HBH-65 and WM2005 uses it as Headset only. It doesn't even call-back when I press headset button :-(((((((
Motorola HS-850...
I have a Motorola HS-850 and it works perfectly with WM2005 in Handsfree mode.
Now if I can just get it to voicedial via bluetooth...
Jabra BT250 here and Handsfree works great!!!
WM2005 is the only OS that I have had where my Jabra does what i want it to do.
Craig.
The crux is can you activate your phone through your BT headset to call any number?
No good in a BMW
I loaded 2005 and tried to pair it with my BMW, although the pairing went well and the hands free profile was selected, its no better than Sins 2003 rom.
The microphone in the car doesnt work, the speakers do. The microphone on the phone is the active one. It wont connect a call unless you try twice and you have to answer call twice before they connect.
Bugger
Jon
In the devices list, tap and hold the car kit, and select handsfree, see if this helps.
Voice dialling
The thing I find most surprising with WM2005 (and the previous versions for PPC) is the lack of hands free/car kit voice dialling. That is one thing the P910 has over WM2005 phones that emphasises that full convergence has not happened in the mind of developers... the PPC is a PDA with phone connectivity, whereas the Symbian system has taken the approach that its a phone first and foremost. With the simple addition of hands free voice dialling, WM2005 could be the first really convergent OS.
(I'm kinda hoping someone will say they have a perfect voice-dialling system in place for the XDAII with WM2005, in which case I'll gladly eat my words)
I am still very grateful for ALL those here who have helped deliver three OS upgrades to my XDA in the space of 18 months!!!
Some people are using Microsoft Voice command with Magneto and they reported it to work well.
Cheers
Pat
List of working WM2005 programs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=20727
scooter said:
Own an AUDI with the factory installed Bluetooth handsfree kit and I have never been able to pair the XDAii with it so that it works properly - incredibly unstable and never could get to work completely... been lurking this forum and others and tried lots of solutions... upgraded the OS to WM5 today and first time paired and works perfectly - even displays caller ID on the Audi instrumentation!!! Most pleased - now if only I can get the o2 GPRS connection to work
Did notice the following problems with the Bluetooth
- Com ports not recognised - seemed to have something to do with the pairing... simple reset after pairing with Audi would then allow com port assigned to BT GPS (not fully tested yet)
- Multiple pairing - device seems to want to pair more than once not sure about this one but who cares it works now
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ditto with Merc 2003 E class.
same old problem with handsfree
i also have the Motorolla HS850 and though it did work for a while it seems to be back to mic and speaker working on the device and only speaker on the headset!
so though you can hear the call on the headset the mic dosn't work but the mic on the device is active as is the speaker
has anyone else had this with 2005?
have hard reset and re loaded 2005 but without success
hmm its working again.....
this is wierd!
headset battery was low yesterday so it may be to do with that. will keep checking and see if i can spot a pattern