I have a PW10B in the US, using a Cingular SIM. In many locations I cannot get a signal at all, and everywhere else I pull a maximum 2 bars. My other phone, a Motorrola RAZR, will pull good signal in the same locations.
I have already upgraded the Radio Stack to 6.24.20 (Complete with the side excursion around the 1% GSM Upgrade failure) with no noticible improvement. I am likely going to try RS 6.25.02. Anyone have any other recommendations to boost the cellular performance of the Wallaby? Maybe a hardware fix on the antenna itself?
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I need to find a way to make this better too! I have the same phone and while I seem to get ok reception (sometimes up to 4 bars) in the city, in somewhat remote areas I get no signal at, while my old phone gets 3 bars. I have a PW10B1.
found the RSU updates at the ftp site:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wallaby/
Which version is the latest? The A. version or 6.25? Which is most stable?
For all of you getting a 1% error when trying to load any of the 6.24 .25 updates (or others), make sure you put all of the extracted files in the windows directory on your mobile device. Whenever I put them anywhere else I get the 1% error and the program closes. When I put it in the windows dir I get 100% completion with 6.25 and A. versions. Soft reset when update is done to activate phone.
Still testing. I'll get back to you on stability, performance, etc.
Well, here's what I found, so far...
I have now tried 6.24.20, A20.10, and 6.25.02. OF the three, 6.25.02 seemed to pull a slightly better signal that A20.10 (One extra bar at my house). So, I reinstalled that one and will stick with that unless someone can give me a good reason to change to another stack.
Reception has not noticebly improved with any of the RS changes. Also, as you said, if I simply put the Radio Stack files in the /Windows directory and run RSUPDATE.EXE from there, I have no problems changing. The problems happen if I try putting the RSUPDATE.EXE in the /startup directory as well and then performing a warm reboot.
But it hasn't made much difference, if any at all. But strangley enough, changing the ROM back to a PPC 2002 version (3.17.03) DID seem to make a difference. I know it shouldn't, but the phone is pulling 1-2 bars more than it was in a lot of locations and is getting better coverage. The reception is still inferior to my other phone, but it is now *almost* livable...
Unfortunately, I really prefer the feature set on PPC 2003 (Particularly how it handles the GPRS connectivity) so I am going to continue to futz with it. Again I ask, anyone know of a hardware fix to improve reception??
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Agreed. I have now thoroughly tested bot the A20 and 6.25 stacks and the 6.25 stack get's my vote. I haven't gone back to the PPC 2002 ROM yet, but I might try that too. Currently I'm running the XDA-Developers ROM 3.17. I still don't get a signal at my house with anything but the 6.25 RSU stack definately gets a clearer reception, drops less calls, and works better programmatically. With the A20 for example, even when I showed no bars, if I tried to place a call it would all of a sudden show full bars (3 on my PPC) as if I had great reception - but would never make a call. With the A20 I don't know what to believe. With the 6.25 it works better and WYSIWYG.
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So, glad THAT's settled...
So, I haven't found anything for a radio stack better than 6.25 . But I hate hate HATE PPC 2002 when I know the feature set of 2003SE, so, I'm going to go back to that again. I noted that during my 50 mile drive today, the phone STILL lost signal at the same spots it was previously, but would report better signal where it could get signal at all.
And it's not like I am out in the sticks, we are talking right neat the Nashville airport and down the interstate corridor.
So, at the end of the day, It looks like I will likely just be going back to the RAZR, and saving my pennies for a Himilaya or Wizard....
SO, although this is the Wallaby forum, anyone know if the antenna is any better on the later devices as compared to the Wallaby??
Here in Argentina my PW10B1 Wallaby has poor reception too. I don't get a signal while my friends' cellphones get a strong signal with no hassles. This does not happen in urban areas, only in the road. I think the Wallaby's radio hardware is poor, or the antenna design maybe is bad.
That's a great question lynrd... do newer models have the same poor signal problem???
I think that is a problem of antenna design...
I have problems with signal reception in many places.Most of them happens randomly...
The same problem I mechanically fixed this problem, and it gave me a positive result. The problem is with antenna. 8)
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The same problem I mechanically fixed this problem, and it gave me a positive result. The problem is with antenna. 8)
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Do you have more info about what you did?
What about this?
I found this little circuit that supposose to go behind the battery and improbes the anthena range, anyone knows if it thuth?
http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewItem.asp?IDI=9968882
Hi gents,
I'm here in Vietnam and have used my XDA 1 for a long time. At first, I also faced the poor signal reception prolem but since I upgraded ROM and Radio stack, it seemed to be ok. Now I'm using Rom ver : 4.01.16 ENG/Radio ver: 4.21.00. Let's try it !
P/S: The Rom ver 4.01.16 along with Radio ver 6.25 but my advise is that you insert Program B (include 4.21.00) into Program A (4.01.16) before upgrade. Good luck ! If there's any problem, pls send and YM: gooseberry_hn
I'm still seraching a hardware solution
At the time of the "shame" (went to a beach trip with my friends, and I lost the signal all day until I hit the road back), I was using stack version 6.02, now I'm using version 6.25.20, untill now I have experience no diferences in reception, I feel tempted to buy the cirkuit to improbe reception (just U4s 2) , but it must go behind the batery, so I must disasemble the Wallaby, anyone has experience doing that?, is it easy to do?
Yes, I have a circuit for you <Note that the instruction in Vietnamese>
Hey folks. I had a quick question if someone'd be so kind to oblige. I have a siemens sx-56, and i just upgraded to the special edition rom from this website. This phone was originally for AT&T and the only carrier supported by this rom was the TMobile. I have a cingular sim card. As of right now, i've unlocked the sim on the phone, but I'm not picking up any phone signal. Is there a way for me to use this on the cingular network? Will I have to upgrade my rom to the newest one that's running WM2003? Props to the developers of the special edition rom. I love all the software that it comes with. Thank you, and have a good one.
I have ROM 4.02.04 and rsu A20. If I want to install/try 6.25 do I (1) connect my PPC to my desk top via USB, (2) activate/connect Activesync, then (3) simply download 6.25?
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Yes, download all files and copy them to your Windows folder on the pocket PC, ensure that the machinne is craddled so power supply wont be an issue, then explore the windows dir in the pocket using Commander CE or whatever you have and run the EXE file to begin updating, do not place anything in the starup folder.
Thanks. I'd like to to all that, but:
1. I can't find the windows folder on my Pocket PC. (I can find the windows folder on my desktop.)
2. If I can't find the windows folder in the Pocket PC, I can't explore the Windows dir in the Pocket PC.
3. I don't have Commander CE, but do have 'File Explorer'.
Sorry I am not very good at this, but I am trying and really appreciate you help and patience.
By the way, I am running WM2003 and Rom 4.02.04. Is there any advantage to (a) going back to WM2002 with XDA 1.2 or (2) upgrading further to WM2003SE?
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Find the Folder
You can find the Windows folder with File Explorer, you have to select My Device in the upside bar of the Explorer, then the Windows folder will apear in the bottom.
Sticking with a 2002 version will prevent you from running a lot of programs designed for the PPC2003, one of them, MS Voice Command is one that make's the diference between this machinne and a normal celular phone (you can control the entire unit using your voice, not just make calls). This program will eat most of you 32MB of RAM, so you gonna have to install everything in a SD card, and you'll have to make a backup copy of that storage card, becouse the unit tends, from time to time, to delete the SD card (specially after a RSU update!).
If you want to go to the 2002 version and then to the 4.01.16 or somefhing like that, some people wrote that going that way you avoid errors in the flashing process, my advice?, update the RSU if you have a minor version than the 6.x, otherwise, its asking for trouble.
If you ever update a computer BIOS using the disquette process then go ahead, otherwise... good luck man.
OK, thanks. I found the folder and the exe. I think I'm ready to give it a try.
Looks like I'm ok with 2003 for now as it has some features I like. I'll keep your instructions in case I decide to try MS Voice Command.
Again, appreciate your help. Skip
6.25 loaded fine and is working. However, I see very little improvement in signal strength. Side by side with my wife's Samsung, she gets a steady 4-5 bars while I get 0 to, at most, 2.bars.
I assume the real problem is the Wallaby antenna design. Does anyone have any mods that improve antenna sensitivity?
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I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
Many thanks for your attention and future help.
ROM version 1.18.255.3
ROM date 07/22/06
Radio Version 1.03.03.10
Once I hear that you have alignment problems, then, from what I hear you have bad luck since you have one of the firt TyTns out there. I heard that HTC replaces these units. It hapens to be a common problem on the early devices.
I have my MDA Vario II (a variation of a Hermes) and till now 4 days long extremely happy with everything.
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I recently bought a TyTNfor almost $900 including a 2 GB expansion card. Despite dozens of hours of trying to get it to work correctly, I find th TyTN almost intolerably buggy.
Specifically:
1) the phone loses connections frequently -- much worse than the Cingular 8125 or my old Treo 650.
2) numerous application programs either crash the device or do not run properly -- specifically, the Audible.com player, the the automated download feature or of Audible Air, most of the SPB utility applications, SBSH Weather (VGA Icons), SBSH Ilauncher and others.
3) the battery life absolutely sucks. I get less than eight hours of operation -- with very few telephone calls. I do have Microsoft push e-mail turned on. However, this ought to work -- for God's sake, or what's the point?
4) the screen/stylus requires re-alignment at least twice a daily..
Is there anyone out there who can help me and walk me through the installation of a new ROM, or some kind of update that makes this device work in a tolerable manner?
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Well, I am sorry you are having these problems. I don't think most of them are a Tytn problems in general.
1) First I have heard of this. I have had the Tytn for a month now and don't have that problem. I move in and out of a 3g area and whether on GSM or UMTS, call quality has been great (better than my Wizzard in fact). Maybe your problem is a SIM issue since this phone is not supported by your carrier where you others might be? I went and got a new SIM when I got mine so I don't know if that could be an issue or not.
2) I don't use many apps. I do use SBSH Weather v1.3.3 (regular icons) and it works well. No issues at all, updates just fine etc. I thought the VGA icons were for devices with a VGA screen (Universal for example). To the best of my knowledge the Wizzard, Tytn etc are not VGA devices so I don't think it helps to use the VGA icons, and who knows, maybe it could cause an issue on a non-VGA device. I have heard that SPB has issues. Slingplayer also works well for me, streaming video runs great.
3) I get ~3-4 days out of the battery if just used for calls, weather updates, and light browsing. Heavy UMTS browsing or streaming cuts that down significantly to 24-36 hours. I don't use push mail so don't know there, but there might be a config setting that is causing your device to get polled too frequently. I do know that one time I went into the phone menu and Band page to set Band to UMTS only. I forgot I did that, left a UMTS area and the phone went into constant network search mode instead of switching to GSM. That drained my battery in something less than 8 hrs.
4) I also don't have this problem. There are many reports of this problem though and the only fix I am aware of is a replacement.
Bottom line is I suspect you have a bad phone (reception and alignment issues) as well as setup issues or program conflicts causing your apps problems.
try to upgrade to the lastest rom!
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I would be very happy to pay you for your consulting time. Otherwise, I want to try to get HTC to take this buggy phone back for a full refund and I will go back to using my old Treo 650.
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I would love to take your money, but I think you should take it back and get something else. Maybe even a Treo. The reason I say this is because the TyTn is just not ready for Prime Time unless you are a power user or someone who doesn't feel the need to complain because it doesn't work properly. Power user go around these issues and figure out the problems.
This is no way an insult to you, it's just that if you can't deal with the problems, and you need to rely on a phone/pda, and email is very important to you maybe even go as low as to get a blackberry. In the meantime I personally would keep the TyTn and explore it and fully understand how it works. When you are ready to dive in and start using it as a "power user" then you will no longer need to worry about it's faults.
This is coming from 2 years of experience with the O2 Xda IIs. Which was the buggiest pocketpc phone that ever came out and today is one of the top, mainly due to the fact that once the ROM is hacked the development efforts go up considerably and you see increased productivity and usability.
But if you need the money, just get a refund.
Sorry about my blunt response, but I had a friend who I converted from a palm to a Blue Angel. He didn't like it so I got him into a wizard. He curse at it for a while, then he started loving it after a few weeks of using it. Now he would never go back to a Palm or a Treo or anything else. I got my TyTn only last week and have cursed it to hell and back several thousand times. But this is just the way it goes when you're one of the early adopters. Especially when the phone is not commercially available to the US and Canada.
Time heals all.
Fully agree with you axiom, the most sincere response you could have given him.
I also come from the BlueAngel and was one of the early adopters, now running helmi's 1.32 rom, that's why I truely understand what you mean
Thanks pof for backing me up. I am also still using my BlueAngel with with the 1.32 rom but primarily in my car for navigation. This way I don't have to spend another few hundred dollars on a Nav system. And it really bothers me when tomtom loads faster on my BlueAngel then it does on my TyTn, but then I am hopeful that the TyTn will prevail when the time is write and all our heads are in the right place.
As always, everyone is welcome to post their problems, concerns, and findings and I am always pushing people to hang in there because "I know" there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for all the thoughtful replys - but....
Perhaps this is a device that is a little too early for me. But I will not return it. I love the speed of the Cingular 3G network. And I am blown away by how well Exchange/Outlook push works. I would never go back to a Treo or to a Blackberry.
I was rather hoping someone may have an idea about an improved ROM. I did have a direct conversation with HTCEurope's tech support office. They said they were well aware of the problems with applications, especially with the Audible player. They wistfully referred to the folks in Taiwan creating a new ROM - any month now.
I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
Many thanks.
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I hoped that one of you might feel that a beta Cingular or other ROM might fix some or all of my problems. And I hope that someone could talk me through the installation. I hope that is true.
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Oh please don't install the cingular beta ROM. Infact, as much I enjoyed using it for testing purposes, the last thing you want to do is start pushing ROMs. I am also waiting for a newer ROM, I was one of the first along with pof and others who installed the cingular roms and found some harsh truths, and some benefits. However, I went back to the dopod rom, with a radio update from the cingular rom. And this was a journey in possibly bricking my unit because going back from the cingular to one of the other roms is a chance and you need your original rom to go back.
If you must pursue upgrading your ROM, please keep a few things in mind:
1) And very important: If you don't know what you're doing, you could brick your unit.
2) A rom upgrade is only as good as the comments it has received from the users on this forum.
3) Most users who use the newest roms are, in most cases, advanced and understand that there will be problems.
4) Once you have started to upgrade your rom, you will be doing it all the time and be ready to reinstall your apps and settings.
If this is all ok to you and you have a back up phone, that you can use while you play with your TyTn, then go ahead and try the Dopod, Imate or TyTn rom. Look through the wiki and you will find all the information you need.
READ EVERYTHING FIRST, THEN START YOUR JOURNEY. The worst thing is having someone tell you "Do a search", or "RTFM", or "Read the wiki". People will respect you more and will be willing to help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
To start you off, I would suggest the Dopod ROM, with radio 1.16. This should take you about 1 hour to update. Then if you're not satisfied with this, then go to the TyTn or the IMate.
I hope this helps, and I have never seen anyone ask for money on here to help our fellow users and if they have, then shame on them. We are all here to learn and teach, this is what makes us a community of excellence.
I hope this helps you and many others on this board. Until the next rom, or hopefully the successful hack of the TyTn rom... Long live xda-developers!
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
As far as the screen alignment issue goes i am shortly sending my TyTN to HTC (in the UK) to get fixed under warranty (ie free)....the guy on the helpline was REALLY helpfull in sorting it out...they estimate a 5 day turnaround for it which is just SWEEEEET......shall be back to my P900 for a few days URGH!
So afaik the screen alignment can be sorted with an under warranty repair
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axiom: I took part of your last comment and updated the upgrading FAQs with it
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Thanks pof, I am very honored to me contributing to the wiki. Hehe.
There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
help you more if your questions legit and the wiki can't help you out.
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help you more if your questions are legit and the wiki can't help you out.
Thanks.
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There is one spelling mistake, can you change:
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I changed it, but remember that you can edit the wiki too... it's very easy, and if you need help, just ask
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
There were moments of sheer terror. The ROM upload to the phone took hours. In fact, I went to sleep and let it continue through the night. But when I woke up, there was the predicted error message on the TyTN. Just as instructed, after a reset, everything worked perfectly. I will write this up more thoroughly in a day or two after I have a chance to really test the radio.
But thanks for giving me the courage to try the upgrade. I am also including a snippet from a message I received from HTC Support about the next ROM:
"There are no ROM updates available for the TyTN at present, although are actively working one to address various issue customers are experiencing.
We are expecting this to coincide with the Windows Mobile 5 AKU3 update."
Nat
please help/ new to this
I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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I have a 02 xda exec that has several programs that states that " either it is not signed in with a trusted cetificate, or one of it's commponent can not be found, you might have to reinstall or restore this file." My desktop had the backup files for the 02 exec but it crashed. im using my laptop to try to find out how to restore my files. I tried the update but that failed too. Please help.
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This is the TyTn forum. You want to post this in the Universal forum.
natgoldhaber said:
Dear Prof, Asukal and especially Axiom:
I want to thank you for your responses. I took the plunge last night and upgraded the phone radio ROM to the Cingular 1.16 version using the instructions and files from Asukal.
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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Congratulations and you are very welcome. Btw, which base rom did you stay with? I have noticed better reception with the 1.16 radio, how are you finding it?
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ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
If you're experiencing shortened battery life, try changing the push email settings (active sync for the mail server) -- if you set it to other than "as they arrive" to an hour or so, for off-peak, it will really reduce the battery drain. Same with the settings for an POP3 email mailboxes -- change the polling interval to a longer duration. I've found that to be one of the biggest battery drains on my TyTN.
I've had a TyTN for more than 2 months and absolutely love it. Sold my k-jam (wizard) because I want the 3G if Cingular USA ever gets it working in my area. I've found the TyTN faster even on the EDGE network locally and better overall than my k-jam -- seems like the issues with the wizard have been largely addressed. Mind you I've never had the screen alignment problem so I can sympathize with those who do. I did switch my HTC ROM to the Imate ROM and I feel like the stability is better.
Slightly better
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ROM is version 1.18.255.3
Date:7/22/06
Radio: 1.16.00.00 (hurray)
Protocol: 32.53.7018H
ExROM: 1.18.255.106
I will give a full report on the radio tomorrow - not enough experience with it yet - and some very minor anomalies after the upgrade.
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I think the Cingular 1.16 Radio ROM is just a bit better than the TyTN ROM that was native to my device. It seems very clear and it MAY hold the signal a bit better. My house is in a marginal area, switching constantly between GPRS and UMTS. That may make things difficult. My reception at home is clearer but about the same as my old Treo 650 in terms of maintaining a connection. The 8125 I had on trial from Cingular for a few weeks was better - but of course it had no UMTS.
Might be interesting for someone to do a hack which grabs GPRS during phone conversations in marginal areas and prevents going to UMTS during the call. ?????
I downloaded the fix4cat TyTN tweaker and set audio to "excellent." Not sure what that does, but excellent sounds good. I also enabled HSPDA, but that seems to do nothing.
Anyway I am happy.
The audible player still does not work worth beans (boohoo - their tech support is NO HELP AT ALL) and I had a really terrible experience with Chapura Pocket Mirror which I used successfully on the Treo for years. I need to synchronize public folders on my Exchange server. Any ideas? Chapura is brain dead, temporarily broke my device and made me spend hours recovering my programs and settings.
Finally - anyone ever able to get into a Cisco firewall and look at files on the company server with the VPN software in WM5??? I have tried using PPTP – no luck.
And really finally, thanks to everyone who helped. (Battery life better with push email off and TyTN magically stopped alignment drift completely and I am no longer a ROM virgin).
Nat
Hi all , just got an Ameo (U.K T-Mobile version) and upgraded to Windows Mobile 6 Professional CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 18125.0.4.2) official rom.
Everything works fine except GPS signal that really sucks!! I have red all topics carefully and i have set all parameters right such as COM 5 and baud 9600 but with Destinator 7 it does not fix satellite signal! It gets one satellite on cold start after 3-5 minutes and maybe some 2nd or 3rd but really UNSTABLE...so it loses fix and again from start.. Navigation is almost impossible!
Any suggestions please?Does someone else have the same problem maybe?..Or my device is faulty?Is it possible that Destinator 7 does not work fine with the built in GPS?I have tried external bluetooth gps on other port and baud and it goes fine!!6 satellites minimum 8-9 maximum and fast fix even on cold start.Is it possible that my ROM version is problematic?
ROM Version: 2.35.110.4
ROM Date : 10/09/07
Radio Version: 1.50.00.00
Protocol version: 32.83.7020.20H
I can never get a fix when it's in the faux-leather case, if that's any help... usually get a fix within 30s out of the case.
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I can never get a fix when it's in the faux-leather case, if that's any help... usually get a fix within 30s out of the case.
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agreed, i get better results though in faux leather case, but my primary case is a n aluminum case hahaha so i know my own problem. temp resolve was an external recvr
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Have you tried the reg change to enable GPS in Camera mode (to allow location metadata to be stored within the picture)? I find if the GPS is ever slow to start up, using this first of all to get a location seems to kick things into life. Also make sure your QuickGPS file is upto date.
For some reason mine is now getting a lock much quicker than ever it has been before. I normally start TT just before I set off and previously it was taking approximatly a mile of driving before getting a lock. Now, it only takes about 1/2 a mile - have the US done something to the signal, or has my Ameo now developed supercow powers?
I'm running the cooked rom v3, radio 1.5 and its in the leather wallet.
Crumbs - half a mile? I usually start CoPilot when i get in the car and by the time I've started moving i have a fix - I take it out f the case to put in my Brodit mount but even in the house in the case it doesn't take that long to get a fix!
It is TomTom !!!
giorgosp: Yes, I can conform the problem and it's driving me mad!
Flashed to the T-Mo ROM this week, as PK3 was giving problems connecting to WMDC (tried a hard reset initially, and no better )
The T-Mo ROM is good, and allows WMDC to connect well, but since flashing, I've been unable to obtain a valid GPS lock. Tried with GPSInfo and iGO2006. I get a couple of small bars, and nothing more. Today, I drove for 45minutes, and no lock at all. My Orbit2 sitting on the car seat with CPL got a lock in 20 seconds from cold.
Previously, I could get a lock within 2 minutes if stationary, and about 10 minutes if moving (I live in a region with lots of windy country lanes, so rarely see the same bit of sy for more than a few seconds!), so this does seem to be an issue with the T-Mo radio.
..and further to the above, I've just downgraded the Radio to V1.47 (which means hard reset), and taken both the Orbit 2 and the Ameo outside- Orbit2 got a full fix in 30 seconds, and Ameo 30 seconds later (so 1min TTFF from cold, which is the best I've yet seen!)
Don't know if going back to radio 1.50 will keep the improvement, but I'm tempted to keep it as it is
im running 1.50 in a pawell rom and it's all good !! I think T-mo have messed things up !
So NeilM do you suggest me to downgrade radio version to 1.47?how many satellites is reaching to fix? ..to get a valid signal i think at least 4 and stable,right?
To all of you using other than the official t-mobile 2.35 rom with radio 1.50: how many sat signals do you achieve to fix using athena with the leather case under normal condition? does the radio version impact on gps signal so much?
I tried reverting to radio V1.50 and same problem, so at least in my Ameo there is a problem with the new T-Mo ROM, Radio 1.50 and the GPS receiver.
Went back to 1.47, and this morning got a cold TTFF in 1 minute.
You need 3 satelites for a 2D fix- locates at ground level, and 4 for a 3D fix, which includes altitude.
From a cold boot, the 1st sat signal takes a while, but it then provides almanac info for any other in its vicinity. As the reciver gets more almanac info it builds a picture of the sky, then the ephemeral data is downloaded.
Once almanac info is obtained, you will see the short bars in GPS apps; once ephemeris is obtained the bars turn dark, or change colour and when you have 3 of those, navigation can commence.
I can't advise you to change the radio version, especially as it needs a hard reset, but can only repeat that it worked for me, here in East Anglia, using the Ameo on Orange.
Neilm,when reverted to radio 1.50 have you used the t-mobile rom or have you used only the radio cab provided by forum?even if my question seems silly i was thinking that maybe a file of those included in t-mobiles 2.35 rom radio 1.50 is problematic??so have you flashed only the radio version back to 1.50 or the entire rom (including t-mob radio 1.50)?
So you suggest change to 1.47?i understand that hard reset is unpleasant setup from beginning but having a dead gps after paying so much for this device is worse.. Could some expert please find this issue..?
..guys i live in rome and i tried everything..it gets 1 sat fix after 3 minutes and upon gets a second one it looses both of them..my ameo is like without gps.. only when i use an external bt i-blue i can use it.. but i bought this mobile for not carrying 200 things with me.. :-(
I used the Radio only link, not the whoe T-Mo ROM, so it seems, for me at least, that it is the radio version, rather than where it comes from.
If you don't mind doing a hard rest, I'd say try it I can't say it will work, because it seems there are a number of factors which I don't understand. Some users have GPS working OK with this ROM and radio 1.50.
My personal experience is that radio 1.47 works much better for me, both for GPS and WiFi, and the phone reception is no worse. Battery use seems about the same.
Are you in Rome city centre? If so, have you tried going to a more open space to get a 1st fix? High density buildings can give a poor view of the sky, and give some 'multipath' interference, which can prevent a proper fix.
Athena GPS Quickconnect can't find anything else vaguely apprnnect
Firstly, sorry to hijack this thread, but I couldn't find anything else appropriate.
Relevant to this thread: I have no problems with my current hard/firm/software combo and GPS connect time. It is about 2-3 mins without a current quickconnect file, but fine with both TomTom 6 and VisualGPSce.
Does anyone know what the antenna hardware is like for the GPS radio in Athena? Is it inbuilt to the semiconductor hardware or is there something else? If there is a physical antenna it could be broken? Try attaching an external bluetooth/USB receiver or external antenna. If one works it can only be the antenna or the GPS hardware at fault, right?
My problem
GPS quick connect will no longer connect through 802.11 wifi, bluetooth activesync or USB activesync. The only thing to have changed is that I briefly enabled and then disabled GPRS wifi. Although the settings for GPRS/WAP have been disabled and in network settings the option for 'programs that use the internet automatically' is set to 'my work network', GPSquickconnect still seems to be using my GPRS service provider (which cannot be deleted).
I know a hard reset will resolve this but it would be nice to know if anyone else has come across this and found a reg tweak to remove the service providers in the drop down connections list.
Thanks is advance.
Hello,
I've flashed my hermes with the official wm6 rom. 3.54.256.2
My rom version is 1.47.00.10.
But i've a wifi problemm, i can connect to my router only if i'm 2 meter far. If I go downstairs my hermes didn't detect the wifi. My other pda the HTC touch detect it in all the room of the house.
Can you help me.
Thanks
OK MEN
Lets see
"R" is not ROM version
is Radio Version and yes you are 1.47.00, but let me tell you that the radio GSM version is not the same to works for WIFI so... the WIFI works with his self radio version installed by default in every device that uses this kind of WIFI waves... the two i know are 802.11B and G but this is not the problem ok these are only protocols....
The matter is that maybe you have a hardware issue... I has a Universal with this same problem exactly this problem and.... let me tell you that the anthena for wifi was unexpected removed and when I diassemblied the device it pops up (I said GOD Damn where does this comes from Ba!!!!!! its not important) i left it and lost the little piece of metal so.... search for the WIFI ANthena diassembly your device and watch it by yourself or take your device to the technician....
Thanks for your help.
Ok i'm not affraid of opening my device.
Have you got a picture or an help to tell me where's the wifi anthena.
At the adress there is picture of a open Hermes can we see anthena.
Thanks angain for your help
Do a search using the words "HTC service manual hermes". You should find instructions on how to pull apart and put you Hermes back together with no problems. Use a size 6 torque key, a flatbladed screwdriver and you won't need the philips head screwdriver.
Cheers...
Hi all,
Merry Christmas to all on this wonderful site
I have been using the HD2 from the last 5-6mts. However, recently noticed that the problem with not getting enough network on my cell phone, calls dropping, sms giving a problem. If I get the phone inside my apartment, get very less network, unlike other handsets where using the same SIM, I get excellent reception! I don't know if any upgrade is required or not.. below are the phone details.. I really don't want to give up on this beauty, I love it except for this...
Model : HTC HD2 T8585
s/n : HT03XNW03568
IMEI : 35412003737464001
OS : 5.2.21869 (21869.5.0.82)
Manila version : 2.5.19211619.0
ROM version : 1.66.405.2 (76641) WWE
ROM DATE : 01/11/10
RADIO VERSION : 2.06.51.07
PROTOCOL VERSION 15.30.50.07U
I trying to upgrade the ROM on the HTC India as well as UK site but keeps telling me the s/n number does not permit this upgrade!
Totally confused and don't have a techie mind here to apply ..so ne step by step help would be gr8.
Also read a few posts of people upgrading the HD2 to Android... Any specific benefits in doing so ? My battery life, call drops (no network) are quiet a pain with the above versions that I am using...
Cheers and thanks again to all for your help... please keep writing in with your suggestions / feedbacks..
enigma075 said:
Hi all,
Merry Christmas to all on this wonderful site
I have been using the HD2 from the last 5-6mts. However, recently noticed that the problem with not getting enough network on my cell phone, calls dropping, sms giving a problem. If I get the phone inside my apartment, get very less network, unlike other handsets where using the same SIM, I get excellent reception! I don't know if any upgrade is required or not.. below are the phone details.. I really don't want to give up on this beauty, I love it except for this...
.......
I trying to upgrade the ROM on the HTC India as well as UK site but keeps telling me the s/n number does not permit this upgrade!
Totally confused and don't have a techie mind here to apply ..so ne step by step help would be gr8.
Also read a few posts of people upgrading the HD2 to Android... Any specific benefits in doing so ? My battery life, call drops (no network) are quiet a pain with the above versions that I am using...
Cheers and thanks again to all for your help... please keep writing in with your suggestions / feedbacks..
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Your Phone is Vodafone HD2 Sir
Go to here and download with your S/N
the new LEO-S Vodafone UK 3.14 Stock ROM
see you, in Artemis ROM thread...
hi there..
Thanks for being the 1st to reply spot on...I have a few questions though (pardon my ignorance on this and please be patient)
- The version i currently have is 1.66 whereas on the link which is for Vodaphone it is 3.14... is it ok to str8 jump to this version or are there any other versions I need to first update and then go to the latest one ? BTW I use a separate service provider in India (and not vodafone).
- I have Microsoft My Phone on the phone which I have loaded all the contacts/sms etc on. After the download is over, am assuming I will have to reload all the contacts/sms again ?
- I am downloading the ROM upgrade file on the desktop (use Vista) without attaching the phone with the USB cable. Am assuming to run the .exe file I will need to attach the phone to laptop and then run the file ?
- Will the Radio versions get upgraded too ? As I think the calls dropping due to network issues is to do with the Radio versions...
Kindly revert when convenient, the download is ongoing on my laptop as I write this message...
Cheers and thank you again for your help.
Greetings from India
to each question above.
correct
correct
correct
no, you can't change radio on 3.14 roms because there is no hspl for it yet.
hi there,
Thanks for your kind revert.
Does that mean the call dropping thing will not improve with the new ROM... the Radio version shows 15.42.50.11U_2.15.50.14 where as the version I am on is 2.06.51.07. Hope this Radio upgrade along with the ROM upgrade helps cause the call drops are quiet unprofessional especially when someone calls from work... and I don't seem to face this problem on other handsets which are less than a fraction of a cost to the HD2...
yea going from 2.06.51 to 2.15.50 should certainly see improvement.
Hi samsamuel,
i have bad news for you. After two or three months of use, my HD2 started to drop Data, SMS couldn't be delievered sucessfully and I wasn't able to do any phone calls in certain areas. I send it for rma an got an new one after 3 weeks.
hope this helps
Hi there,
I just did a ROM upgrade... Thank you all in here...
Some more questions on it...
- I get the vodafone logo on the start up... hope that shouldnt create a problem with settings with my own service provider as I do not use vodafone...
- While sending SMS, it quickly shows sending failed. After a 2nd retry, the message goes thru successfully... ne reason why ?
- My WAP/GPRS settings are obviously gone and my service provider will call 2mrw to load it back again...only then will i be able to sync by address book from Microsoft My Phone
Kindly advise/comment on the above when you guys can...
Thanks again for your help.
Cheers!
gweurk said:
Hi samsamuel,
i have bad news for you. After two or three months of use, my HD2 started to drop Data, SMS couldn't be delivered successfully and I wasn't able to do any phone calls in certain areas. I send it for rma an got an new one after 3 weeks.
hope this helps
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lol, not bad news for me, i hate the 2.15.50 radio, its rubbish. i was being general, and the Op should see an improvement by moving up a few radio versions.
enigma075 said:
- I get the vodafone logo on the start up... hope that shouldnt create a problem with settings with my own service provider as I do not use vodafone...
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thats the 'splashscreen', its just a picture, you can change it just like flashing roms.
- My WAP/GPRS settings are obviously gone and my service provider will call 2mrw to load it back again...only then will i be able to sync by address book from Microsoft My Phone
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shouldnt need to wait for them to do anything
settings - menu - all settings - connections - connection setup.
Im surprised it didn't run automatically when the phone restarted.
hi Samsamuel,
Thanks, as always for your help.
- How does one change that vodafone logo showing up on start up or on shutdown ?
- I too was surprised as to how the wap/gprs settings didnt come on automatically... finally after around 14hrs of logging a complaint, waiting for 2hrs on the phone (literally over several calls) and visiting the service providers store, the WAP/GPRS settings were provided and I could get my contact list reloaded again...Now you know the level of service that we get.
- Any other recommendations on any applications / upgrades on the phone would be appreciated...Do you recommend I change the radio version as the current one that i have with this upgrade is 2.15 and didn't notice much difference in the connectivity area (which is my main problem really) though have used it only for a day as yet.
Cheers!
see the 'splashscreen watermark' link in my sig for the technicals of flashing splashscreens.
for recommendations, i rarely offer recommendations, except cookies home tab
i didnt like 2.15 radio, but its very VERY much trial and error, , no two people agree on radio performance. for me 2.10.50 and 2.11.50 work best.
has anyone got a signal strength issue in there WP7 rom for tg01 ? if so do you have a fix ?
I do occasionally lose signal when i'm out and about but when i have a signal the voice quality was perfect. When i first got the phone i could barely hold a conversation with someone and through the hard work of the XDA community all these problems were fixed.
Its early days for WP7 on our devices i'm sure the little problems will be sorted out over time, thanks to the talented developers we are lucky to have working on our device.
I think like this:
I will update into WP7 when:
Camera will work
Radio signal will be as good as in 321 radio
3G will fully work (hsdpa and stuff)
G sensor will work
Mango update will be available (it's probably the easiest tor realize lol)
There will be official "support" so as Marketplace etc
It will be possible to go back into 6.5 without any warning.
Also I got some ideas to realize:
Bootloader from 6.5 can boot into SPL where we can reinitialize the device into wp7 loader, so we don't need to replace original loader, just boot "a loader in a loader" as we do in HD2.
SD Card in HD2 is really good realized because it works like RAID with integral memory, so we don't have something like SD card but Integral memory is Capacity of internal storage + SD card storage, it's possible to port it into TG01 easly.
can we change the radio in wp7?
will anything like this work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255325
I too have signal problems...
Don't forget TG01 had crap radio anyway, the issue has just been compounded by moving to WP7
well if this signal problem cant be solved i may aswel flash back to wm6.5 tonnight
True, i will try to be back later, but, i never had problem with signal before on my tg01...
hi!
USSD protocol also did not work.
however SMS works ok.
did someone was able to run any of registy editor?
maybe there lay a problem
Hello everyone! I found out that if you turn off 3G networking you will not have big problems with signal any more!
Just go to the setting>celluar>3g disabile
Teslic said:
Hello everyone! I found out that if you turn off 3G networking you will not have big problems with signal any more!
Just go to the setting>celluar>3g disabile
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REALLY? i just flashed back to wm6.5 this morning i may have to flash back to wp7 to test this out can any one else please confirm this ?
maybe it has to do with the 3g drivers, which cause errors because they are not implemented yet?
Realy dont know, but it is definitlly software problem. I hope that this problem will be solved very soon... That is only BIG bug! Only if developers solve this problem i will stay on this rom 4 shure!
This is best software for this device...
Teslic said:
Hello everyone! I found out that if you turn off 3G networking you will not have big problems with signal any more!
Just go to the setting>celluar>3g disabile
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It can be true, my 3g is always off and my phone signal is always good.
Teslic majstore Yes it is true the signal is better, to me allmost full all the time. I had turned off 3g earlier and signal was good but then i restarted my phone settings and the signal was poor again. I didn't realize it was because of that. Great tweak Teslic and thanks
did not work for me i turned 3g off my signal whent exelent and was able to make a call then about 30 seconds later it went back to poor signal that cant call
i'm just waiting for 3g to work, then i'm gonna flash it to have a game station while being on the road